Tuesday, February 15, 2011

NEW BOOK FOR THE LIBRARY
Since dropping out of the Mexican Mafia, Rene Enriquez hasn't just quit the life. He's launched himself on a mission to help dismantle the organization to which he devoted his entire adult life. He's testified against his former brothers, collaborated on a book with LA TV journalist Chris Blatchford (The Black Hand), attended law enforcement conferences as a speaker and you can still find his videos on YouTube.

His latest effort is a manual for law enforcement, prosecutors, COs and anyone else who has a more than passing interest in the subject.

It's not intended to be as in-depth as The Black Hand. Instead, it's an introduction to the world he knows better than anyone. It essentially answers all the questions that usually come up when someone first becomes aware of the subject. Think of it as a survey course on the Eme. It's a terrific reference source and an absolute must-have for anyone who wants to know what really goes on behind the Eme's wall of silence. You can find it on Amazon.com or www.policeandfirepublishing.com.



89 comments:

Anonymous said...

A world he knows better than anyone? Boxer left the Mexican Mafia in 2003, nearly a decade ago, and I'd have to guess he was on the outs for about year before that, which would lead to his resignation, so to speak, in the first place.

Boxer is 10 years out of the loop, for all intents and purposes. And, you know as well as I do that 10 years in that world can be like 20 in ours.

From 2003 to today, Enriquez doesn't know anything more about the Mexican Mafia, its operations, or any policies that it's either created or modified since that time, than anyone with a pc and the ability to type "google.com" in their browser's address bar. I'll pass.

Anonymous said...

I beg to differ. The guy is an expert witness on the issues of the EME and the Surenos. Based on the very issues that you cite, how much can the EME change if it too is excluded from itself in extreme isolation? The majority of the organizations' membership are not mental giants and they don't care about prosecution so why would they alter their methodology? If you really knew the mob like you think you knew the mob then you would know that not much has changed. But of course if you prefer learning about it from wikipedia go right ahead and knock yourself out. Me, I'd rather hear it from the horses mouth.

Anonymous said...

he may even be more knowledgeable than the average active carnal locked away in the shu, simply because of the fact that they have him working on current criminal cases that he testifies in. he probably listens to wiretaps, and views other evidence, etc.

Anonymous said...

Exactly. Good observation. If he has 20 years subjective experience as a former mob guy, couple that with the past 9 years of investigative and analytic experience that he has gained since dropping out and working with the law enforcement/prosecution community. I'd say that he is more than qualified to write a book on current EME activities.

Anonymous said...

This book could have been written by any thousands of LE with a little investagating. The name is what is selling the book. Boxer is the vehicle that will get the book sold. Yes, he has been out of the loop for some years and alot can change and has changed. The latest in streets of L.A. is no more indiviual taxation by the carnals. A few resently paroled carnals will do the taxing for the organization and all those selling must purchase from them. Green light on all Paisanos selling without permission from the carnales.

Those oldies but goodies... said...

"The first killing occurred 12 days after the movie's premiere, when a gunman fired three shots into the back of Charles (Charlie Brown) Manriquez, a 53-year-old IV-drug user with "EME" tattooed on his chest.

Manriquez was slain in Ramona Gardens, the city's oldest public housing project and a stronghold, officials say, of Mexican Mafia support. Though he never formally served on the film's technical staff, Manriquez was one of several Ramona Gardens veteranos whose creative input Olmos sought.

No suspects have been identified and detectives have no evidence to indicate that the killing was related to Manriquez's work on the movie, which featured scenes filmed at the housing project. Because he was a heroin addict who had resorted to petty street crimes, police say, he had probably already fallen from the EME's graces.

But if Manriquez's murder could be chalked up to the vicissitudes of the streets, a more ominous sign of the Mafia's hand surfaced two months later, when masked gunmen ambushed 49-year-old Ana Lizarraga, one of Ramona Gardens' most respected matriarchs, known simply as "The Gang Lady."

Lizarraga, a paid consultant on "American Me" with a small acting role, had grown up in the project's Hazard gang and lost her husband and two nephews in gang shootings. For 10 years, she had been a top counselor for Community Youth Gang Services, using her credibility on the streets to help steer youngsters away from gang life.

Lizarraga had also earned a reputation among some as a snitch who took advantage of her status to feed information to police. Detectives, describing her as a "concerned citizen" who offered them occasional assistance, determined that the Mexican Mafia had put a contract on her life sometime in the late 1980s.

"During the movie, there were a few people who were upset with her," Los Angeles Police Detective John Spreitzer said. "But they were upset with her going back five years.""



http://articles.latimes.com/1993-06-13/news/mn-2769_1_mexican-mafia/5

http://articles.latimes.com/1993-06-13/news/mn-2769_1_mexican-mafia/6

Anonymous said...

A year or so back I'd read an article written by Sheriff Richard Valdemar, that I can't find the link to today. Anyhow, he said that in the '90s, the Mexican Mafia was on the ropes, until it rebounded in the early 2000s. He didn't go into detail. Can anyone expand on this?

Anonymous said...

Not too mention he knows who all the lasting players as well as most of the up and comers. And there's nothing new under the sun as they say.

Anonymous said...

So, if a high ranking Mexican Mafia member defected in the past couple of years, the authors of this book would still rather have Boxer than him? Come on, these guys are bleeding the Boxer thing for what it's worth, and you guys know it. I'll bet you there's NOTHING in this book that couldn't be learned with simple google searches. BTW, I glanced over some of the free excerpts of their other books, and it all looked mostly cookie cutter to me. Just a bunch of "Surenos wear blue, and have the number 13, which means 'M'" stuff. The usual. Stuff anyone who went to an even remotely inner city school in California since the '70s already knows. Oh, and fascinating nuggets like this: "The ACLU is the biggest enemy of law enforcement in America". Wow. That's enlightening.

Anonymous said...

Valdimar definitely knows his stuff but there are others who are even better versed at the recent trends of the org. The SSU never gets props for their knowledge in the investigative arena of the EME but they are probably the best source of knowledge on the topic. As for Valdimar's comment of the EME being on the ropes in the '90s then rebounding in 2000. That's the truth. The org. was literally left decapitated with the first round of federal indictments but acclimated to the reality that federal scrutiny was gonna be the norm so it has established vertical leadership structures for most gangs that pay homage to it. They've been pretty successful at conducting their business even from behind the walls, can't deny their success at organizing a bunch of cut throats. But whoever has the idea that "there is no more individual Carnales taxing has it all wrong". Every member has a territory and controls that territory autonomously, without organizational over-sight. If that individuals business objectives contradict the organizations then, and only then will the leadership become involved at conflict resolution which usually results in one or more members being placed on the lista and their territories being absorbed (taken over).

Anonymous said...

It's not my intention to defend Boxers'writing but I have read the book. It is pretty good and there is a lot of new information in it that I'd bet money that you aren't aware of, including sections on women of the EME, cryptanalysis, the 25 PC gang and quite a few other topics.If you knew him then you would know his work ethic and would know that he wouldn't involve himself in some cookie cutter vanity publication. But there's an old saying; Those that can do, those that can't criticize.

Anonymous said...

ok mark my words, no more territorial taxation. The few brothers who are going to collect are suppose to distribute the profits evenly to each Carnal in good standings, thus preventing territorial disputes and some making lots of money and others making no money. Sound a bit like communism (everyone gets equal amount).

Anonymous said...

Sounds good in theory but in practice it has little chance of success. Look at the fed commission, they want control of the streets, that much is obvious, but the state brothers have been combating that concept since the '95 indictments when the Carnales who were out started telling the barrios "We run the streets and they (incarcerated members) run the pinta". The standing practice has been that the members with strong business acumen run crews and the "no accounts" sit back and accept whatever comes their way. Do you really think that a member making 10s of Ks every few months is willing to give it up because some other member that doesn't have the intelligence to run a crew and is broke? What about the members who are making serious money, will they give up what they have taken years to establish? The mob of today is a franchise of sorts with each member selling the right for crews to utilize the EME name. As a collective group the practice of helping other Carnales has always been in effect but I honestly cannot see just a few bros. taking control of the streets. Too much room for corruption in an org. already filled with deceit and treachery. But I may be wrong and you may be correct.

Anonymous said...

I read the book, and I know the author. I believe he was spot on. A must read for anyone who wants to know about current EME trends.

Anonymous said...

I doubt it. I'll bet you the Mexican Mafia really just taxes the gangs that its members are closely connected to. I've never bought the notion that they just tax every gang in LA, and never will buy it. It's just pure nonsense. Oh, and I'm sure they do at least "threaten" to kill gangs who don't pay them, but I'll bet they never make good on it...only with the gangs they're closest to. There are so many gangs in LA and so many nut jobs in those gangs there is just no way they're going to fork over their hard hustled cash to some guy saying he's with The Mexican Black Hand or whatever. Nope, sorry. This will never go over with most citizens because it's just too far fetched. Sounds like a delusional fantasy of someone who's confusing west coast gangs with the NY Italian mafia.

Anonymous said...

You obviously don't know the EME as good as U think U do. But you are correct in stating that the org. doesn't tax all gangs, only the gangs that it has ties to... It has become common practice for gangs to conceal their drug dealing success for fear of being taxed by EME reps on the streets. The EME will always face resistance from gangs that R unwilling to pay but that's Y they created a green-light list. They place gangs on the green-light list where the resistant gangs R targeted by all Sureno gangs on the streets and in jail until the gang agrees to pay tax. In fact, the green-light list has become a revenue generating tool for the mob. They don't tax every gang but this taxation plan is really just the beginning. They (EME) plan to control all gangs flying under the Sureno alliance. U may think of the EME as a group of knuckle draggers and mouth breathers but believe it or not they have some very intelligent progressive thinkers among the hierarchy. No disrespect intended but it sounds like U need to attend some gang conferences for EME 101.

Anonymous said...

You obviously don't know the EME as good as U think U do. But you are correct in stating that the org. doesn't tax all gangs, only the gangs that it has ties to... It has become common practice for gangs to conceal their drug dealing success for fear of being taxed by EME reps on the streets. The EME will always face resistance from gangs that R unwilling to pay but that's Y they created a green-light list. They place gangs on the green-light list where the resistant gangs R targeted by all Sureno gangs on the streets and in jail until the gang agrees to pay tax. In fact, the green-light list has become a revenue generating tool for the mob. They don't tax every gang but this taxation plan is really just the beginning. They (EME) plan to control all gangs flying under the Sureno alliance. U may think of the EME as a group of knuckle draggers and mouth breathers but believe it or not they have some very intelligent progressive thinkers among the hierarchy. No disrespect intended but it sounds like U need to attend some gang conferences for EME 101.

Anonymous said...

who are the top bosses since boxer left the orginization ? and are they running it as boxer ran it or better or worse ?

Anonymous said...

Boxer didn't run the mob. He was just one of the members who was a progressive thinker and ran a successful crew, a "Carnal de palabra" or brother with credibility. In California the Org. is ran collectively, although rumors in LE community state that a commission is forming no hard intel exists yet. In the Federal EME Champ Reynoso is the head commissioner. In the Arizona Old EME Pete Moreno is the head commissioner.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know if there are two versions of the book? I ask because at the police and fire publishing website, it states that this book is for current and retired law enforcement only. However, I know that its on sale at Amazon so I'm not sure what to think. If anyone has some insight on this, please advise.

Anonymous said...

OK, Mr. "EME rules the universe". Riddle me this. EME has been around for how long now? Since the 50's, right? Over a half century. In 50 years they're primary racket is still extorting the very gangs in which they come from? Still? You'd think by now they'd be "bigger than U.S. Steel", as Hyman Roth put it in the Godfather. They extort Los Angeles gangs. And that's all they do. That's all they've ever done. And when you consider that in 50 years they're STILL trying to organize LA's Latino gangs under their "umbrella"? LOL. Good luck with that. My guess is that if they haven't pulled off this feat by now, they're not going to. And what's up with East Los Angeles, the undisputed Chicano capitol of America, the heart of Chicano Los Angeles, not even being down with EME? They claim Maravilla, have refused to pay taxes to the Mexican Mafia from the start. Give me a break. The facts just don't back up your heightened description of this prison gang.

Anonymous said...

Not two versions of Urban Street Terrorism. Just the one. Police and Fire Publishing offer a significant discount to sworn LE, criminal justice professionals, and correctional staff. It means that only they will get the discount.

Anonymous said...

Consider these gangs; La Cosa Nostra,
was established over 400 years ago and took centuries to organize, and the Yakuza is over 1000 years old and took centuries to organize as well. The EME has only been in existence since the mid fifties. I could go on and on but nothing can convince U of what U already seem to know better than all of the EME experts. U show how little U know when U talk about ELA and the Maravillas. FYI they are off the lista as a result of Chato Sandoval who is a made EME member and a former member of the Maravilla gang. Rather than critique the covers of books U should actually try to read one occasionally.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Consider these gangs; La Cosa Nostra,
was established over 400 years ago and took centuries to organize, and the Yakuza is over 1000 years old and took centuries to organize as well.

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Good to know. Then, according to your logic, we don't have to worry about the big bad Sureno Mexican 13 Mafia or whatever until about 2950! Forgive me if I don't sense the urgency.

Anonymous said...

No. You R missing the point. I completely agree with U on some respects of what U posted. 1. The EME doesn't control all Sureno gangs, 2.That its main source of income is via taxing the gangs it has ties with, 3. It has a long way to go in terms of organizing. But as a group of dope fiends and uneducated thugs they have had some success in the past 15 years or so. In '93 is when they began focusing on the streets. So to see those accomplishments in perspective is important, not to mention their ties to bona fide Mexican Drug Trafficking Organizations. Look at the recent and past business models that they've utilized as templets of success for other Surenos to replicate. The reality is that eventually the EME may become obsolete. With tougher laws focusing on the membership and wardens/jail administrators utilizing "SAMS" special administrative measures to restrict their communication, their ability to function is waning bit by bit. But the EME is versatile and can withstand extended investigations and prosecutions only to regroup after complete and utter chaos. It's the Surenos who pose the biggest threat to the community. They rank 125,000 strong and can now be found in every state of the nation. So maybe you don't feel the sense of urgency but a lot of state, fed, local, and international LE agencies do. Can they be wrong also? What of the transnational implications of deported Surenos? Another international concern. See, the picture is a lot bigger than the EME being this monolithic org. that is omnipotent. It isn't, but their ideology has spread far beyond their own aspirations. With Sureno migration comes opportunity and if there is one label to place on the mob it is; opportunistic.

Anonymous said...

125,000 strong...LOL. Basically, you're taking inflated regional tallies of gang members (tallies that probably include grandmothers and house pets), adding them up into one lump sum, and then trying to pass that lump sum off as a prison gang's arsenal of soldiers. That's not gang intelligence. That's science fiction. Good luck with the book. I sincerely hope my tax dollars aren't funding it, or the website selling it. You guys are conspiracy theorists, not gang experts. As long as you're doing it on your own time and your own dime, more power to you.

Rob Thomas (StillNoScript) said...

You want to talk about an organization, criminal or otherwise, having control over 125,000 gang members strong, what about the California Department of Corrections?

The California prison system issued red and blue bandannas to Nortenos and Surenos, respectively. And here we are, a half century later, where Nortenos are "flamed up" wearing red, and Surenos wearing that neatly folded blue bandanna in their back pocket, with a blue dodger hat, to boot.

While the styles of dress may vary from region to region, it was the prison system that chose the colors of Latino gang uniforms across California and much of the southwest.

I've learned that talking a gang member out of gang banging is a waste of breath. But if I could say anything to a Norteno or Sureno, I'd stay stop wearing the red and blue colors ISSUED to them by the California Department of Corrections.

You want to talk about control, when a 12 year old kid in Turlock is flamed up with red shoes, red pants, red shirt, a red bandanna and a red hat, and doesn't even know the origins of Nortenos wearing those colors, I'd say not only do you have an entire culture and multiple generations of that culture under control, you've got them stuck on stupid. A prison gang could only envy such control.

Anonymous said...

To the last comment regarding the red and blue, where can i find more info on that?

Juan Doe said...

Red and Blue bandanas are not permitted in the CDCR and they haven't been for at least 15 years. Although they were once part of standard state issue to inmates. And it is true that the Northerners fly red and the Southerners fly blue but I believe that the division between North and South runs far deeper than the issuance of colored bandanas. The conflict stems from the Shoe War that occurred in San Quentin state prison. One EME member stole a pair of shoes from a Nuestra Familia member and conflict ensued(short version). As a result of this conflict, mutilple NF members were killed by EME members and EME member Cheyenne Cadena was murdered by NF members at Chino state prison. Before this conflict, both Norteno and Sureno inmates coexisted peaceably in the same prison yards.
Now the conflict has become generational. Most of these kids killing and dying for a lost cause that they don't even know the history of.
What is even more shocking is that this EME/NF war has spilled out onto the streets. Gangs in Northern California don't bang against each other-they bang against Busters (Northerners) and Scraps (Southerners).

SNS said...

Are you disputing that it was the CDC that originally gave Nortenos red bandannas to separate them from Surenos? Because that's the theory I've heard from every single law enforcement individual I've ever heard speak on the topic.

The connection I was clearly making is that the colors still worn today by Surenos and Nortenos were decided upon by the CDC in the early '70s. Whether or not the colors are still worn today in prison is beside the point. They're still worn on the street, and it started in the prisons.

I made this point in response to the person who said that there were 125,000 Surenos, to imply that the Mexican Mafia has 125k soldiers at their disposal. That number seems high, but even if it's accurate, we at least know who came up with the color scheme of their uniform, and that of their enemies. Colors alone don't kill people, but whenever a self proclaimed gang expert, of any background, speaks about gangs and says "Surenos fly blue and Nortenos fly red" (as if Surenos and Norteners were the ones who initially chose these colors), I feel their astute observation needs just a little context, that's all.

Anonymous said...

No, I was not disputing the fact that the CDCR initially began the assigning of colored rags to Nortenos and Surenos. Or even that the CDCR allowed the conflict between North and South or NF/EME to rage on for decades. All I was trying to point out that even with the rags issued both sides got along and coexisted until the Shoe War. The implication that there are 125,000 Surenos nationwide is fact, but the Mexican Mafia clearly doesn't control all of those people. The point I was trying to make is that it has a huge pool to recruit from and only room for exponential expansion of EME ideology.

SNS said...

Northern and Southern Chicanos never coexisted in the prisons! And you would need to look no further than this very blog, and read comments by "Tijuana Jailer", a self proclaimed former corrections officer who was the human encyclopedia in this comments section back in '05, '06, that even the blog author himself expressed confidence in, to know that. He told us story after story of southerners having zero respect for northerners, from the get go. And common sense would tell even a lay person like me that if they truly coexisted, there never would have been a shoe war in the first place.

Maybe the CDC passed out the colored bandannas with all good intentions, but even if that's so, they knew they were passing them out to rivaling factions. And, it seems, you are disputing that. I would need to do nothing more than defer to comments made by former CDC themselves to debunk you argument.

jose said...

than again how much can prison rackets change.the only thing i see changing is the players.

Anonymous said...

OK. you win. I'm not looking for cyber-confrontation. It's as if when I post a fact, (known because I served 29 years in California prison and was "in the game") it is immediately challenged. Believe what you will.

SNS said...

Interesting you don't say till now that you were in prison. Why the ace in the hole? You're anonymous. There would have been no risk whatsoever in just saying from the get go that you were in prison. But it's not until your 'whoa is me' defense of the CDC issuing do-rags collapses like a house of cards that you suddenly pull out the "I was there" card. Just wondering why you didn't say so from the start.

TijuanaJailer03 said...

So what happended to all the crazy people? Good to see fresh blood and "old timers too". Greeting to Still No Script (we meet again).

From my perspective, it is always refreshing to have the verifiable intel that a former prison gang member brings to the table (emphasis on verifiable). To Rene's detractors I can only ask, "Would you rather this guy clam up or come forward with the voluminous information he has to offer?" His agenda is his agenda and I for one would prefer to steer from that discussion as it simply promotes useless gossip.

The folks who are "selling" Mr. Enriquez are entitled to their agenda as well. God bless them.

The question is: What do we glean and learn from Enriquez and how do we apply it to the ongoing struggle against these guys??

In a separate series of comments I would like to put in my two cents and address some interesting observations brought up by some of you here in Wally's World.

Good to be back for a spell or two.

Peace ...........

TijuanaJailer
(with a slightly newer handle as I seemed to have lost me older one)

TijuanaJailer03 said...

In a previous EME time frame, a huge amount of intel was gathered and filed away from the early defectors and successful prosecutions of Joe Morgan, Alfie Sosa, etc. put many of the heavies away forever. Most of this success is attributed to informants "Sailor Boy" Gonzales, "Mundo" Mendoza (who authored the book/CD 'From Altar Boy to Hitman) and others + the success of the so-called DEA Prison Gang Task Force which originated with people like Joe Moody, "Moco" Morrill (who wrote the book 'The Mexican Mafia-The Story' ". "Mundo" became the highest placed member at that time (early beginnings ~ 1980's) to turn and offer a seemingly unending amount of "verifiable" info that led to many many convictions. As the puzzle is assembled (through time) we progress to RICO prosecutions, made possible by turncoats "Chuko" Castro (1990's) and others + the success of the FBI Task Force. The highest placed EME member of this era (2000's) is unquestionably Rene Enriquez ('The Black Hand' and the current book 'Urban Terrorism').

For those of you salivating for more current "food", let's digest what we have and, like a full course meal, enjoy (perverted word when discussing crime, I suppose) what he brings to the table. The key is: How do we apply this knowledge at our disposal to our current efforts against organized and semi-organized crime. More to come ............

Peace to all ......

TijuanaJailer

TijuanaJailer03 said...

I wish you all had Handles so I would know which Anonymous to address but no matter. I'll try to go down the line here. The internet, while an invaluable tool in the Information Age, is only as accurate as it's contributors. You are correct, Anonymous, in observing that places like wikipedia offers information. But the integrity of that information is another thing. You have no idea how many Mexican Mafia Timelines are in existence (most with Anonymous authors) with much inaccurate information. Stay tuned for a work in progress (to be identified in due time on Wally's World) that will direct those interested to a site offering yet another EME Timeline.

Rene is definitely kept up to speed on many ongoing activities that do not conflict with the integrity of his testimony - you can bet on that. Does this mean Rene knows it all? Absolutely not. But, like the "Mundo's" and "Chuko's" of the past, he is the most recent carnal with this volume of "verifiable" information. Until the next informant comes along, we learn from the past.

I'm not familiar with Valdemar's article about the EME being on the ropes but in the Joe Morgan-Mundo-Robot-Alfie-Sailor Boy era, the bulk of EME's drug pipeline came directly from the Araujo Family in Mexico.
When Morgan was arrested, the Araujo Family suffered a major setback and went underground. The EME needed another avenue to tap into and "stumbled" into the street gang taxing that Enriquez became a major part of. How do you get rid of the EME? Here's a "nutshell answer" for you: "The only way you get rid of the EME for good is to get rid of street gangs". Huh? That was Mundo's answer to a law enforcement conference in Colorado some years ago. Easy task to undertake, right? Wrong. But we all knew what he meant.

The SSU is definitely not given the props and the credit they so deserve but their peers know better. Talk about getting it from the horse's mouth. What a unique position to be in. The SSU prefers to conduct its business under the cover of secrecy (much like the EME) and their intel can produce volumes if it were not counter to CDC policy.

The EME would have figured out a criminal avenue to pursue with or without street gang taxing. Criminal minds seek out criminal projects and ultimately succeed, in varying degrees, in their endeavors. Is the EME La Cosa Nostra? Not even close. Why would anyone even seek to compare? The EME, with all its influence and power (and lack of glamour, which we all seek from watching too many Godfather-type movies), specializes in killing people and having them killed, controlling street and prison venues (familiar terrain for them), and perpetuating a huge criminal evil empire. Urban Street Terrorism. Wow, an appropriate description, if you ask me. If you search the InTheHat Archives, this is a controversial term that I use several times in describing EME and their cohorts. I know that SNS doesn't like the use of the word "terrorist" in the non-political sense. But there you have it. If you're looking for polish and glamour, you won't necessarily find much in La EME. But you will find plenty of blood.

Time to have some lunch. I will return.

TijuanaJailer

TijuanaJailer03 said...

EME Street Taxing: It appears that EME street taxing has remained an area of high priority. Who'da thunk it. Years ago I asked "Mundo", who was long since removed from the scene and onto his new life, what his thoughts were about street taxing. He didn't think it would work because it was a form of disrespect to their loyal Sureno allies, not to mention the very same base of people from which they would later be recruiting carnales. Easy for Mundo to say, coming from an era of brief prosperity. ("Huero Buff" Flores owned two homes in Artesia; "Mundo" owned two homes in Rosemead and purchased new automobiles on whims). Their unlimited access to heroin and cocaine made street gangs invaluable for the distribution of the same and no EME carnal thought about taxing their former home boys. When Morgan and his boys went up the river, along with the Big Connection, carnales like Pete "Ojeda" Sana (in Santa Ana/Orange County) got creative. They experimented with the idea of "taxing". The no-driveby edicts (a power move which was a wolf in sheep's clothing) further entrenched their stranglehold within the barrios and they succeeded in levying the neighborhood tax.

Tijuana Jailer
(Next: Tax Resistors)

TijuanaJailer03 said...

Tax Resistors (I'm glad Uncle Sam isn't this cruel): In the Chicano criminal world where La EME is a force, there is one universal understanding. If you are a street gang member and you choose a life of crime, you will inevitably end up in an incarceration. If you are in a jail facility for any measurable length of time, you will inevitably end up in contact with EME members and their street soldiers. If you resist the EME, you can either seek protective custody in order to live (which dampens or terminates your life as a street criminal since you are now a pc) or you can suffer discipline or death. This is called a "green light" in inmate jargon. The only saving alternative is to comply and the "green light" is removed. This isn't a News Flash but it's been going on for over two decades. You are not safe with the notion that the EME cannot touch you in the shelter of your neighborhood because they can and have. The county jail and state prison system is the EME's playground. The lesson (unless you are content to spend years of self-exiled criminal misery in protective housing units) is: If the EME wants your taxes, they're gonna get them. It is not a "delusional fantasy" but a daily reality. The other Mr. Anonymous explained the green light, red light system better than I did. And you're right, Mr. Anonymous, this isn't New York. Many of us tend to assume that all of us bloggers and web navigators know (or should know) what many of us consider basic EME 101. I suppose we should always proceed as if the reader is indeed hearing this for the first time. That's called education.

EME Rules the Universe
History teaches us that when they are in any incarcerated setting, if allowed to interact on a prison yard with the rest of the population, they are like a cancer. Inmates begin to die and other convicts are absorbed into their web. In out-of-state prisons the same scenario was played over and over in those venues. Ask the State of Washington, ask Marion Federal Penitentiary, Leavenworth, McNeil Island, etc. It took years (and the loss of many lives) for federal authorities to come to grips with the reality of how influential the EME could be in their prisons. Their rhetorical response to us back in 1978 was: "We have the real Mafia here?" Yes, they made a joke out of it. Ask any federal official which group is most represented in Colorado's Super Max? Who committed the first homicide at Super Max, the prison that was the Super Model with zero (0) murders in its facility. The EME rules the prison universe in the United States and they are extremely aggressive and powerful in areas that they covet. Once again, this is an evil force that should not be compared to "successful" criminal enterprises. The EME is at home when they are behind bars. Count the lifers. From inside the prison they have EME carnales and street gang members doing their bidding on the outside! This interdependency is like a solid chain link. The inside threat deters the outside criminals and vice versa. Murder is murder. It doesn't matter if it comes from a gun with a silencer or a crude prison made shank. The EME is a very great example of Disorganized Crime, minus the Hollywood glamour but with plenty of stark reality and the numbers to prove it. Ask a current Task Force member for a body count since their birth in the 50's and it makes the Traditional Mob look like choir boys. Hyman Roth. Looks like we have another Godfather aficionado (smile). It's apples and oranges, my friend. In the end, they all serve the same master. There is no prestige in working an Italian Mob detail vs. an EME unit. That is, unless you're on the take. (That was a low blow)

Tijuana Jailer

TijuanaJailer03 said...

SNS accurately describes an unusually ignorant CDC policy. You would think, with all this history of deadly animosity in existence, that enlightened minds would prevail. Sadly, there indeed were some prison guards who contributed to the EME - NF conflict. The inmates had an old saying: "divide and conquer". This was demonstrated at Soledad State Prison in an AB vs. BGF confrontation. A white prison guard fires (3) rounds into the melee killing (3) black inmates. "Setups" - incidents in which a rival prison gang member was released into a yard setting in which opposing gang members were present was commonplace and even expected. It made the Corcoran Prison revelations look like a ping-pong game.

Script, you're the only familiar "face" I see. Hope you are well.

Tijuana Jailer

Anonymous said...

To SNS. I remained anonymous not to ambush you with the: "I know because I was in prison" tactic. But rather to stay anonymous for security purposes. None of my positions "fell like a house of cards" as you put it. What I speak is the truth learned from subjective experience. If you knew me then you'd know that I wasn't attempting to "one-up" you, but rather trying to broaden your understanding of the NF/EME conflict. In all sincerity I'm not here to showcase my knowledge or contradict anyone. But If I see that someone is misinformed then I will attempt to share accurate info. I even acknowledged to you that the CDCR allowed the war to rage for decades. I didn't come to Wally's World to "beef it" with anyone. So I hope that you didn't feel that I was sandbagging you. Just trying to cover my own six.

Anonymous said...

To: Tijuana Jailer. I think I like you Amigo! You seem to know your stuff pretty well. If you need help on that EME timeline let Wally know and if you're interested I may be able to facilitate you.

TijuanaJailer03 said...

Anonymous Amigo ....
Thanks for the offer. As you can likely surmise, I believe that the history and early activites are well covered plus relevant photos.
The challenge, which will be mostly covered by a few individuals whom you will surely recognize, will be finalizing between 1981 to the present.
Should be fun + the principal contributors will be recognized and the Timeline will be FREE (smile).

Peace to all .......

TijuanaJailer

SNS said...

TJ, I remember asking years ago how the EME made their money before the taxation era. Finally, an answer. Thank you. Could you elaborate on the family that Joe Morgan went through in Mexico, and what you meant by them going "underground"? I'm sure everyone's seen that long comment (it was pasted here once, years ago) about how the drug pipeline switched from Central America to Mexico around the same time that EME started taxing. What a puzzle all of that is. But I think it's worth knowing. No stone should go unturned, right?

anonymous, I apologize for coming off as hostile. I've had some nasty exchanges in here so sometimes I'm a little defensive. Couldn't tell at first if you were one of the usual trolls that likes to give me shit. LOL. I don't believe you are. My apologies.

Anonymous said...

To Tijuana Jailer. I'm not looking to be included in the recognition. Just that accurate info is out there. I can tell from your postings that you are more than able. I look forward to seeing the timeline posted on your site or here in Wally's World. I have a ton of graphics that are pretty rare and other contemporary photos/docs. as well. Just say the word. Good luck with the project. It's refreshing to see that others are here to put out good info to the masses.

Anonymous said...

To SNS. No need to apologize. I understand your position. We're all men here and can discern the real from the poseurs. Glad that we're on the same page. Peace.

TijuanaJailer03 said...

SNS .... Read the following Archived comments. You had a few exchanges with KMA (my former partner) and myself regarding this exact topic. The time and subject in question (EME revenues before taxing) was indeed touched upon but maybe never completely explained.

http://inthehat.blogspot.com/2005/09/mundo-book-finally-out-for-those-of.html

Early EME Drug Connection
In 1975, Joe Morgan developed a close business relationship with Jesus "Chuy" Araujo, head of the Araujo Family - based in Mexcio. This new contact was made as "Mundo" Mendoza was paroling from San Quentin.

Morgan and "Mundo" agreed that "Mundo" would head EME's street operations. They launched a movement to have local (L.A.) drug dealers move the Araujo dope and they took their operations to other cities where EME members existed: Colton "Colorado" Arias, L.A. (too many to name all), Bakersfield ("Chavo" Perez), Visalia (Victorio Murrillo and "Tati" Torres), Fresno (Gilbert Roybal and "Mandi" Varela), Hayward "Gil" Santistevan,
San Francisco ("Sonny B" Ballasteros, Gus Rivera and "Mapa" Lopez) and Sacramento ("Abie" Reyes and Juan Hernandez).

"Mundo" was joined by his VNE home boy and EME carnal, "Sailor" Gonzales and then "Alfie" Sosa who teamed up to replace dealers who resisted by murdering them.

The EME enjoyed an unlimited supply of heroin and cocaine during a brief period (1975 through mid-1977).

The first setback to the free flow of drugs occurred in early-1977 with the defection of "Sailor Boy". At the same time "Chuy" was dealt a blow to his operation as multiple stash houses were hit in L.A. and San Diego. This interruption caused a curtailment in the EME-Araujo business as "Chuy" and Morgan agreed that it was best to lay low (or, go "underground", as I describe it) as they wait for the effects of these arrests to manifest.

On August 22, 1979, Jesus "Chuy" Araujo and 21 members of his Family were charged with federal drug and conspiracy counts.

These arrests + the develpment of "Mundo" Mendoza turning against La EME effectively dismantled EME’s primary source of drug revenue during that period. This led into the EME taxation period that carries into the present.

Tijuana Jailer

TijuanaJailer03 said...

Anonymous Amigo .....

I appreciate the offer. To be clear, there is definitely a need on our part to make sure that the EME Timeline authors/contributors are identified (and they will give their consent) for the purpose of credibility.

Otherwise it defeats the intended purpose (accuracy) and the reader has no way of knowing if this is just another Mother Goose story (since they can only go with what's out there otherwise) or if it's the real deal.

There are many who share in the accuracy we are looking to bring to the table. I am glad that you are one of those who do not have an agenda to advance.

Stay tuned ...........

Tijuana Jailer

Anonymous said...

As a former gangmember, I can tell you that as soon as any former connected homies parole,the cellphone call screening begins.The camaradas come out in force collecting taxes. The targets are any gang or anyone they can get.For example, some of my ex homies that have gone straight and have the unfortunate luck to come in contact with these camaradas end up paying atleast a one time kick down for "the cause".Luckily, I havent come across any and if I did I would reluctantly kickdown.I,like some of my homies would view it as an insurance payment, just in case we ever hit the system again.One can talk all the highpower talk about not paying, but once you get caught up your threw or in PC.The only other chance you have is that many of these camaradas dont last long on the streets and if you can avoid them til they go back to the system youll be good for awhile til they hit the streets again.

Anonymous said...

Former gang member states it clearly. Taxing is now part of standard operating procedure for most Sureno gangs and drug dealers. It is safer for operators to pay a small portion of their profits as a cost of doing business rather than risk the wrath of the EME. It would seem that "The Program", as the Carnales refer to it, is well established. I think it would be safe to assume based on past experience, that the organization will now set its collective sights on others. The recent rash of indictments against Mexican cartel leaders and their extraditions and detentions in U.S. Penitentiaries provides the Mexican Mafia with captive targets in their realm of power-the prison system. The ties between Mexican Drug Cartels and the EME have already been established among some EME members in the recent past. What is yet to be seen is if the organization can concentrate its collective focus on implementing a strong business plan attractive and lucrative enough to the cartels. If it does come to fruition look for the EME to catapult to another level of violence and financial success.
To Tijuana Jailer, What a surprise! Anything I can do to enhance the current project you're on just say the word. You know how to contact. Me. Peace.
Anonymous Amigo.

Anonymous said...

whats going on with la eme in federal prisons like colorado ? what they do in cali. prisons is well known for the most part but are they together over there or are they seperated from each other and what of the arizona mexican mafia or the texas mexican mafia ?

Anonymous said...

To Tijuana Jailer (or anyone in the know):

1)Can you distinguish between an EME Rule and an "unwritten rule"? For example, is killing a cop an unwritten rule?
2)Is "Champ" Reynoso considered the official or unofficial head of the EME in federal prison system?
3)Does the EME and the AB really respect each other or do they just tolerate one another?

TijuanaJailer03 said...

Urban Street Terrorism
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Just completed my copy of this book and it is definitely at the top of the list of must have.

If you are a member of the law enforcement community, this is undoubtedly required reading.

Here you have an excellent collaboration of two individuals (Al Valdez and Rene Enriquez) who get to the answers that many on this blog and elsewhere have so many unanswered questions to. Namely, what is the EME up to today.

Once again (with no disrespect to Al Valdez), the fact that this info comes from the "horse's mouth" (Rene Enriquez, the book's co-author) gives it all the credibility in the world.

No law enforcement person on this planet can communicate what takes place in the criminal underworld like the criminal himself. The key is to have an individual who can commit his thoughts to paper (as has been accomplished here) and vocalize with more than two syllable words (as Rene so eloquently is capable of).

If you are not LE and simply look to become abreast of EME current trends and affairs, this is a great read.

To the Anonymous with the following Questions:

1)Can you distinguish between an EME Rule and an "unwritten rule"? For example, is killing a cop an unwritten rule?
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Yes, killing a cop is an unwritten rule within the EME. The intent of this rule was/is to avoid generating unwanted attention or "heat" to their criminal activities. But, and this is covered very well in "Urban S/T", the EME's current lack of enforcement on gang members who have killed/are targeting police officers indicates a change in their willingness to discourage the same. It is possible today that the LE's aggressive pursuit of the EME + the state and federal prisons making it more and more difficult to communicate with the outside world + confiscation of EME funds has led to a change of heart with regard to this unwritten rule. If you search the archives of InTheHat, I do address many examples of EME "unwritten rules".

2)Is "Champ" Reynoso considered the official or unofficial head of the EME in federal prison system?

Adolph "Champ" Reynoso is the official head of the EME's federal prison faction. Urban S/T delves into the details of this structured faction and compares it with the California state faction.

3)Does the EME and the AB really respect each other or do they just tolerate one another?

The federal prison AB and EME seem to be co-existing well whereas the state AB and EME do not appear to interact as well. Possibly this may be because the older members in the feds have a better grip on their business and appear to be intolerable of excessive "politicking" and other divisive activities within their ranks and with long time allies.
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To: Anonymous Amigo
Good to have your input here in Wally's World and we're all proud of you. You have maintained yourself well and congrats on your recent discharge off parole. Will keep in touch via mutual "friends".

Peace to all .............
Tijuana Jailer

Anonymous said...

To: Tijuana Jailer
I found the archived reference to EME "unwritten rules". Click here .......

http://inthehat.blogspot.com/2005/07/kilroy-accident-confirmed-rumor-of.html

Anonymous said...

To:Tijuana jailer Do you remember The San Quentin Review and The Folsom Observer? the prison newspaper from back in the day,another veterano who chose the the straight life.I remember reading a letter back in 1973,the ending of the letter read Tu Carnal Soldadao Fierro Emero.My homeboy thought it sounded cool he joined the army and me and another homeboy joined the Marines back in 1974.

Anonymous said...

Tu Carnal, Soldado Fiero Emero B Section East Block 1970-1975.

TijuanaJailer03 said...

TO: Anonymous

The San Quentin Review and the Folsom Observer are/were indeed prison newspapers. The San Quentin Review can still be found here:

http://sanquentinnews.com/

As you can see, the oldest back issue available is 1979. That means yours (if issued between 1970and 1975) are probably highly collectible !!

Folsom prison no longer circulates the Folsom Observer so, once again, you have another collectible item there.

In years past (1970's through
1980's), these prison newspapers not only covered prison functions and special events, but many issues had a Letters to the Editor section in which messages were published (many with gang-related significance). It is possible that this is the reason Folsom canceled it's "subscription".

These were excellent opportunities for photo ops as well. In our "expunged files" section, we have several copies with some of the older EME and BGF members posing with their fellow prison gang members.

There is one Folsom Observer copy I am looking at (circa 1974) that has Ernest "Kilroy" Roybal, Adolph "Champ" Reynoso and Conrad "Big D" Garcia posing together on the handball court. Maybe I should put it on Ebay(?).

Additionally, San Quentin had a prison radio news program that aired every night on one of the inmate earphone channels. The San Quentin News, as it was called, was "all the news that is the news". An old timer from SQ shared this tidbit with me.

Peace ............

Tijuana Jailer

TijuanaJailer03 said...

Manuel "Tati" Torres Murder
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The government is asking for the death penalty in this case (Copy and Paste the link below) .....

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2011/03/29/Death-penalty-sought-in-Supermax-killings/UPI-73571301420385/

As many of you remember, InTheHat
reported on November 29, 2005, the first killing at the federal Super Max facility in Florence, Colorado.
Manuel "Tati" Torres was beaten to death on April 22, 2005, and became the first murder to occur at the otherwise super high security facility.

"Tati" was placed "in the hat" by the Mexican Mafia because they discovered he had cut a deal in a previous RICO prosecution.

Peace and Updates ......

Tijuana Jailer

Anonymous said...

The latest from the grapevine is that Mundo Mendoza is releasing his last book; "FROM ALTER BOY TO HITMAN" in a revamped and reformatted paperback edition. Police and Fire Publishing has acquired the publication rights and has pre-order options available. I for one am looking forward to its release in paperback. There's nothing like the comfort of getting comfortable in my favorite reading spot and absorbing a great book rather than being anchored to the computer screen with an e-version. Mundos' story is a great read. Having read ... Alter Boy... I can say that it is an essential book to have and learn if you are a follower of the EME. be you cop, student, or ex-con, the book is a must read that will take you to the very beginning of the organization known as La Mafia Mexicana. Orders can be placed at:

Peace to all.

Pepsi Man.

Anonymous said...

To: Soldado Fiero, Welcome to the spot.

To: Tijuana Jailer, Thanks for congrats on my recent discharge off parole. I will make the best of it.

Peace.
Anonymous Pepsi Generation Amigo.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the info on the prison newspaper Tijuana Jailer.Do you remember a issue of the Folsom Observer that stated that Arnold schwarzenegger visited Folsom Prison in the very late 70s?My brother sent me the prison newspaper while I was at a halfway house in Pacoima Ca.there was this girl that claimed to be the girl friend of Bear from Canoga Park.I remember seeing a picture of him and my brother in Folsom Prison.

Anonymous said...

Mundo's e-book? Meh. Wasn't impressed. Thought it was interesting that he referred to the NF as the "Rodney Dangerfield" of the prison gang world, meaning they get no respect. Maybe the NF defense lawyers in the Black Widow case should have brought Mundo in as a character witness if that's true. Because the FBI surely tells another story of the NF, don't they?

Carlos said...

I must say I have been reading artitcles on this website for years and I never had the courage to leave a comment till now. Thank you so much for I have learned a great deal from some of the regular posters on here. I live in Northern California a whole different world compared to Southern Cali- I say this, the gang warefare up here has been going on for years obviously, I see alot of northerners growing up into the gang lifestyle arent as educated as former carnales. I'm on neither side but I do love learning about both factions and I feel to beat your opponent you must first understand your opponent if that makes sense to you. Its a shame to see homies fighting a lost cause. Just the other day in my neighborhood a known sureno member was shot 7 times and left paralyised from the waist down. His brother is also a well known Norteno from the EBR gang of Antioch. Because of this there have been numerous drivebys and shootings in retaliation in our neighborhood. Both factions are fighting for control of this nieghborhood, which was really norteno territory before Surenos started growing in numbers in the Bay Area- TO TIJAUNAJAILER I ask you this-What happens to Northern California Surenos when they hit the pen?? are they accepted into La Eme and shown respect or just used and never fully accepted into the organization? Ive always been cuurious about this. Thanks-Carlos.

TijuanaJailer03 said...

To Carlos .......

Hello Carlos, and welcome to In The Hat. Never be shy about asking questions on this web site. That's why it was developed, to give information.

Northern California Surenos are treated pretty much in a similar fashion as most Surenos. I say most because those who serve a more useful purpose for the EME are insulated more than the common Sureno. But, they are not targeted by EME nor are they disrespected.

It is unfortunate today that it is virtually impossible to "do your own number" (serve your time undisturbed) and that a Chicano convict has to choose sides but that's pretty much the reality of prison life today.

The book Urban Street Terrorism talks in detail about the Sureno movement and how it has spread to barrios throughout the country with youngsters more than willing to serve their evil master (La EME).

You are correct, there is no real glory in killing your own but they are in the process of being programmed and are buying into a completely different social value system (quoting this from Mundo Mendoza's CD book) than what you and I are accustomed to. Very sad.

Peace .......

Tijuana Jailer

Anonymous said...

(Because the FBI surely tells another story of the NF, don't they?)

Apples and Oranges. The FBI would make Cesar Chavez look like Al Capone too.

Anonymous said...

To Carlos: I agree that it is a lost cause for this continuing war but you stated that you are from the other side-Norteno I assume, and you also stated that "to beat your opponent you must first understand you opponent". I for one encourage you to use the knowledge that you gain on this site to separate yourself from what is truly a waste of life. I believe that Tijuana Jailer would agree that the gang life , be it norteno of sureno, NF or EME is literally a worthless cause. Nobody wins in the struggle but plenty of people are irreparably harmed; from the victims themselves to the many peripheral family members of the fallen who aren't seen. But this isn't a pulpit. To answer your question-Surenos from up north or from any region (even out of state) will be accepted by other Surenos once they get to the joint. What you are seeing now are Surenos migrating to traditionally NF and Norteno strong holds and battling for territory. The battle won't end there. Ask yourself how many Nortenos are in L.A.? The expansion of territory is what the EME wants.
To Anonymous: I beg to differ. Mundos' e-book is being revamped and reformatted and any real EME student or student of the prison gang phenomenon would do well to get a copy and absorb what is invaluable historic knowledge abut the prison gang that has become a criminal enterprise; The Mexican Mafia.

Peace to all.

Pepsi Man.

Anonymous said...

WACHATE.. SIN FERIA, THERE AIN'T NO EME.. SO, LOS CARNALES HANDLE THEIR WORLD AND CONTROL IT BY WHATEVER MEANS ALLOWED THEM UNDER THE WATCHFUL EYES.. SO GIVE THEM CREDIT FOR THE NOTORIETY.. BUT IS NOT LIKE EME CONTROLA TODO! THEY WOULD BE SOME SUPER RICH CLIKA IF THEY HAD THE POWER LIKE SOME TRY TO MAKE THEM OUT TO BE WITH ALL THE DOCUMENTATION PRESENTED TO PROVE A CASE.. EME WORKS IN THE VARRIO/RAZA CIRCLES WHERE THEY EXIST, BUT OUTSIDE OF THOSE STREETS, THEY'RE NOT THE MEGA POWER.. OUTSIDE OF THOSE STREETS, IT IS INDIVIDUALS WHO NAVIGATE THE WATERS.. ITS LIKE YOU CAN'T PIN A TAIL ON EME BY SAYING THAT THEY HAVE A COYOTE PROGRAM, BUT SOMEBODY IN SOME INTELLIGENCE OFFICE OR ON SOME BUST MISION, WOULD PISS ON YOUR FACE AND CLAIM THAT ITS RAIN CREATED BY THE EME GODS.. THE SIMPLE ANSWER TO THE EME COYOTE PROGRAM IS THAT, RAZA IS RAZA, AND THEY'LL GET INTO ANYTHING WHERE THEY CAN MAKE SOME BOLAS, AND IF AN EMERO CONNECTS WITH SOME SOLIDOS IN A BUSINESS ENTERPRISE, PUES WHAT DO YOU THINK IS GOING TO HAPPEN? SIMONE CHILLON, ALL EMEROS OUTSIDE THE WALLS HAVE PERSONAL CHAMBITAS, ITS NOT LIKE THEY'RE OUT ALL DAY AND NITE COLLECTANDO AND MAKING RUNS FOR THE BIG PATRONES BACK IN THE HACIENDA.. EMEROS WOULDN'T BE EMEROS IF THEY WERE IF THEY WERE NOT GANGSTERS FIRST.. SO WHETHER IS STUFFING SOMEONE IN A PIñATA ACROSS THE BORDER CHECK POINT, OR SCORING A PERSONAL KILO FOR PROFIT.. ITS ALL VALIDO EN EL VARRIO, AND ITS ALL VALIDO CON LA ORG, AS LONG AS YOU LIVE BY THE GOLDEN RULE.. DON'T GET CAUGHT, AND DON'T BRING THE JURAS TO THE PAD!

Anonymous said...

To the Anonymous "Rodney Dangerfield" reference:

It seems like your interest is more in the NF. If so, you might want to read 'The rise and fall of the Nuestra Familia'.

I never read it because I'm not interested so I'm not necessarily recommending it from firsthand reading but I hear it has all the hot NF stuff in it. This book might be yur cup of tea.

I guess we all have choices. I read Mundo's e-book and could not put it down. But I'm from SoCal - born and raised - so mybe that explains it.

Anonymous said...

La India that was mentioned in Mundo's CD I met Rocky Luna at her house house in Hazard and I also met Beaver from East Side Clover there, if thats the same India.

San Jonero said...

Carlos

While I would say TJ Jailer and some of the more recent parolees on this blog probabley have a better insight than I do. I can tell you what I have observed and heard through homeboys that have been released.
I know back in the day, and I'm talking about maybe 15 yrs ago. The rumor was that the Eme didn't recognize surenos from up north. Although I believe, and I'm sure TJ can either confirm or deny if this is actually correct but I believe some of the Eme founders were from Sacramento and San Fran. Either way the dynamics have somewhat changed.
I was just reading another site by a simi-popular retired L.A Sheriff who said that there is an invisible boundry between Nor-Cal and SO-CAl that usd to be Bakersfield and he now believes Surenos have pushed up all the way North to San JO. I beg to differ with his idea that there is a boundry. Surenos don't seem to recognize boundries. There are Surenos in pretty much every U.S city so the idea that there is some imaginary boundry is rediculous. I believe surenos in the pen will accept any sureno as long as he is down for the "cause" and willing to either put in work or make some feria.
The message I got from some Northern homeboy's that were recently released is that the war between North and South seems to be dying down. A few homies said that they had some interaction with some surenos and the feeling is more that it's "Us against the System" rather than each other. Personally I hope this is true. There's been too much bloodshed for too many years. It would be in everyone involved's best interest to join forces but unfortunatley I don't think taht will happen for a long time still.
Anyway, my last comment is about the "Rodney Dangerfield" reference.
First of all, the NF has already outlived Dangerfield.j/k, But most of all I don't see how a prison gang with "no respect" has manged to survive 50+ years. Granted the NF is no Eme but these aren't a bunch of push over punks either. If they are just a bunch of no respect Dangerfields why hasn't the Eme ever completley whiped them out? And what does that say about la Eme that they can't even take out a bunch of Dangerfields that are the Eme's supposedly bigest enemy?
While I don't doubt the Eme's power and superior numbers, that is the problem when reading any of these books by gangsters or former gangsters. They are going to build their gang up to be the best of the best. What they don't realize is that if you don't give your enemy credit for at least being a formidable enemy, then it just makes you look like a schoolyard punk picking on the smaller kids.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
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Apples and Oranges. The FBI would make Cesar Chavez look like Al Capone too.

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Are you insinuating the FBI would exaggerate the threat of a criminal organization to get a conviction? Only Monster Kody Scott or Mike Davis could have put it better.

Anonymous said...

Cartels in 230 U.S. cities
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Milenio (Mexico) 4/12/2011
WASHINGTON - Roberta Jacobson, deputy secretary of state for Mexico and Canada, acknowledged that more than 230 U.S. cities have been “impacted” by the presence of Mexican cartels. In a forum organized by the National Democratic Network (NDN, for its acronym in English) in Washington, the official said, according to the criminal map prepared by DEA, the problem no longer occurs only in the border south, but within the entire nation.
“According to the drug agency map, indicating where the Mexican drug cartels operate in the United States, more than 230 cities are impacted by cartels. So this is a crisis that affects not only the border,” she said. She also said it was a “fallacy” to say the violence may cross the border, when it is a crisis in our cities across the country. “
The official also noted that progress against organized crime in Mexico is “mixed” because there have been significant blows to the cartels, but the institutional reforms have progressed more slowly. “Honestly, until now progress has been uneven,” said the number two in the Department of State for Latin America. “There have been strong and clear progress in dismantling drug trafficking organizations,” but “there has been less progress and it is more difficult to work” on “institution building,” said Jacobson. “We know that judicial reform is another area that is exceptionally difficult to tackle and takes a long time,” said the manager in the Department of State that coordinates the various security plans in the fight against organized crime that remains in Latin America. She recalled that the Merida Initiative grew from a first stage, during which the United States provided heavy military equipment to Mexico, to the present, the most actively pursued institutional strengthening. The creation of strong institutions and societies that are less permeable to organized crime are goals that “naturally take more time” and results “are not as obvious or quick,” she said. This is “where we need to focus efforts on this point,” said the official. The United States said that a reform of the security forces and justice in Mexico is vital to progress in the fight against drug cartels whose violence has left nearly 35 000 murders in the last four years. Barack Obama’s government said that cooperation in the fight against organized crime is stronger than ever with its southern neighbor.
Budget and Mérida Plan
The secretary acknowledged that the battle for the budget of her country opens up the question of whether it will maintain financial support for strategies such as the Merida Initiative and Colombia Plan. “The foreign aid programs are not the most popular in the U.S. Congress and we hope to keep the programs in the coming years, but do not know exactly,” the official acknowledged at the forum. Jacobson therefore considered it “critically important” that the governments of the countries benefiting from these programs maintain them, regardless of what happens to the budget in her country.
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Anonymous said...

San Jonero,

The NF's legal defense should have called Mendoza in as a character witness in the Black Widow trials. Those familianos facing triple life sentences in federal dungeons could have used him on the stand! I mean, evidently the NF were nothing but teddy bears according to him. lol.

TijuanaJailer03 said...

Excellent questions and input. With extremely few exceptions, LE intelligence, can confirm what I have read in the books authored by Mendoza and Enriquez. We call it "verifiable intel".

Having worked with Mundo and spoken with Rene Enriquez, I can tell you that their accounts of their EME time has not been for "building up" their former confederates or their roles in this group. To the contrary, I would say they are successfully working to tear down La EME by their cooperation. They both view EME as an "evil empire" that must be taken down; a "cancer" that infects anything it touches.

If they "ruffle feathers" then that's probably on the reader. I'd like to share a post from In The Hat Archives.

http://inthehat.blogspot.com/2005_07_17_archive.html

It was "Mundo" who first described ALL four prison gangs as California's "Axis of Evil".
SJ, you are correct. The first wave of EME carnales did include some Northern California gang members: Ramon "Tuffy" Hernandez
(San Jose), Abraham "Abie" Hernandez (Sacramento), and Mike "Acha" Ison were in this group.
Although once upon a time Bakersfield was considered the "dividing line", even back in the 70's EME's influence was felt strongly in Fresno and Visalia.
The Sureno activity in Northern Cali is part of the puzzle. This Sureno "movement" has taken a life of its own, if you ask me. I don't see EME's immediate fingerprints on ALL Sureno activity but you can bet the "puppet masters" enjoy stirring the pot. Unfortunately, it's the gullible home boys (north and south home boys) who suffer at the hands of NF and EME.
In Enriquez' Urban Street Terrorism, there are excellent examples of EME's activities in other parts of the U.S. and yes, they have had a Hawaiian Faction for many years. Mike "Jap Mike" Kudo, Paul "Huero Tres" Portillo and Antonio "Tony" Palacios have been the "big 3" in that state for about 3 decades. This information has been on the books independent of Mendoza and/or Enriquez.

Regarding NF and Black Widow:
This was a highly successful NF prosecution in N.Calif that revealed a great volume of information detailing NF's organized crime activities in that region. Remember guys, the NF isn't a group of choir boys. The NF is part of this "axis of evil" that is mentioned in discussing California prison gang history.

I for one consider it unimportant to assign degrees of evil to any of these gangs. They all are STG's (Security Threat Groups) and they all pose a major concern to our communities and to the LE community.

As for Rodney Dangerfield, I know "Mundo" was probably giving his state of mind as he felt when he was an active soldier, especially since he was the
20-year old San Quentin convict who first referred to them as Northern Farmers, or "farmeros".

SJ: "It would be in everyone involved's best interest to join forces but unfortunatley I don't think taht will happen for a long time still".

With all due respect, I will strongly disagree with this statement. I recognize your frustration in watching Chicano youth going after one another's throats but to unify the North and the South would be utter chaos, especially for Northern California.
We already have it in So Cal. Don't wish it on your region, my friend. Somehow, I almost feel what you meant to say was that you wanted to see them unified for good rather than criminal pursuits.
You see how the reader can screw things up? (smile)

In a subsequent post (maybe today if I can), I'll talk about the idea (of a former Mexican Mafia upper member) about doing just that - uniting the NF with the EME.

Good to have you on board, San Jonero. Things do change with time.

Peace ..............

Tijuana Jailer

Anonymous said...

wonder if in recent times there been confiscated material ( kites ) between the upper membership of nf & mm , on dealing drugs , prison yards , uniting , etc etc.

TijuanaJailer03 said...

Part 1 of 2:
Cheyenne Cadena was a visionary. In the early-1970's, his dream was to absorb all Chicanos (North and South) into one big cartel run by the EME. And, he had an attentive audience. In the beginning, there were many SoCal gang members in the NF. Not one of their Founders was from Nor Cal (chew on that one for a second) which tells you how bad the average Chicano inmate was exploited by the EME in those days. NF OG's: Freddie Gonzales was from San Diego; "Babo" Sosa was from Santa Barbara; Bruce "Huero" Morgan was from Clanton Street (West L.A.), Little John was from Little Valley (East L.A.) and Gonzalo "Chalo" Hernandez was from Bakersfield.
Unfortunately for Cheyenne, and the NF members who were engaged in "hopeless dialogue" with Chy, about 99.5% of the other EME members had this arrogant attitude towards the NF and especially northern California Chicanos and considered them vastly inferior and unworthy of being part of "their thing".
As NF members were being killed in Susanville (2), Sierra (1), DVI
(2), Soledad (1), San Quentin (1) and Folsom (1) (against Cheyenne's wishes), Cheyenne still engineered a transfer from Folsom to Palm Hall to the section where the NF had a heavy concentration of their heavy members locked up.

"Joker" Mendoza, a Southern Cal NF member from Redondo Beach, was very involved in this idea with Cheyenne and they talked in 1971 at the Palm Hall unit in Chino.
On a trip to the visiting room, Cheyenne had an opportunity to give a quick message to Steve "Calote" Amador and Eddie "Sailor Boy" Gonzalez, who were at the Chino Reception and Guidance Center. He asked his carnales to "freeze" on the hits vs. the NF. Calote turned his back on Chy (who was with his prison guard escort en route to the visiting room) and gave Chy the finger as he and Sailor walked away shaking their heads at Chy's bullheadedness.
As if to contradict Cheyenne’s efforts, Ernie and Santos Aranda, brothers and NF members, were stabbed at the Chino Reception and Guidance Center (December 15, 1972) by EME members. The EME’s message to Cheyenne and the NF was clear: the attacks on the NF would continue unabated. For NF members at Palm Hall, this became the straw that broke the proverbial camel's back. Two days later,
Cheyenne was stabbed to death at Palm Hall by several members of the NF. “Cheyenne” was stabbed over 70 times and his body was tossed from the upper tier to the bottom floor. He was NOT killed by his EME brothers as the fictional movie American Me had the viewers believe.

(Due to the number of words or characters, I'll continue this post onto Part 2)

TijuanaJailer03 said...

Part 2 of 2
Of course, Cheyenne's hit was the last straw for CDC. Massive lockdowns were conducted at every California prison Known EME and NF members were placed in Isolation Units as staff feared the worst.
CDC records reflect that on December 25, 1972, (Christmas Day) in retaliation for Chy's death, several NF members were confronted at Soledad-Central Facility by EME and AB members. NF members Frank “Cisco” Villalobos
(CDC #B-21492) out of Fresno, and Pablo "Paulie" Najera from Stockton, were stabbed to death by EME at the Soledad Central Facility in two separate Wings during separate confrontations. Three other NF members were stabbed non-fatally. The suspects who were placed in the O-Wing Adjustment Center included: (EME) Ramon “Mundo” Mendoza (from Los Angeles), Robert “Nego” Cabral (San Bernardino County) , Art Chavez (L.A.) and Larry “Huesos” Gallegos (La Mirada). Their accomplices in a separate incident in another housing unit included (AB) Larry “Buffalo” Herth and Robert “Bogus Bob” Patton.
The California Dept. Of Corrections for the most part succeeded in separating these two groups and the SHU units as we know them today came into existence.
With some isolated exceptions, the other major EME vs. NF-related incident to speak of occurred on October 9, 1975, when "Mundo" Mendoza and his EME crime partner "Sailor Boy" Gonzalez were arrested in Bakersfield for the double execution of NF brothers Daniel "Woodsey" and Ronald "Ronnie" Ronald Reyes.
This separation allowed both the NF and EME to concentrate on controlling the prisons that the CDC had assigned them to.
This also gave way for the final polarization of the Norte (north) and the Sur (south) and their affiliated gang members.
So, you can see how this evolved
over time. The two rivals then began to concentrate on ridding their ranks of "bad apples" and a "post war purging" took place. NF took their act to the streets of Nor Cal and the EME did likewise in Southern Cal. With the rare exception in Bakersfield, both gangs never chose to pursue their conflict on the outside.
The Sureno vs. Norteno conflict has likewise evolved into what I would describe as 1)a "war by proxy" as the EME encourages Surenos to stir the pot in order to 2)"spread the EME/Sureno gospel" in what they probably view as a way of maintaining an iron clad control over their subordinates.
I have opined that this "movement" seems to have taken on a life of its own. By that I mean that the vast majority of gang members who claim to be Sureno who reside in Northern California probably have no clue WHY they are anti-Norteno. But then, isn't that the nature of gang rivalries to begin with?? A shame indeed.

Enough for tonight.

Peace ...........

Tijuana Jailer

Anonymous said...

Sound familiar?

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2011-04-15-arizona-gun-ATF-border.htm

"Federal agents and prosecutors last year encouraged Arizona gun dealers to sell firearms to buyers for Mexican cartels even after the store owners fretted that weapons might be used to kill Border Patrol agents, according to e-mails obtained by Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa."

Anonymous said...

Yep. Op Black Widow...immigration edition. Let them buy guns. Let them kill thousands, mass murders of women. As long as they lead us to one cartel big banana that will get us the headlines! woo hoo! Justice!

Anonymous said...

Sounds to me like those EME members that turned their back on Cheyenne left him for dead anyway. If the EME carried on hitting NF members despite Cheyenne's wishes, then it seems they'd disowned him. They left him for dead. So they might as well have killed him.

sparky said...

lol. Got it, TJ. So the CDC can't be held responsible for Norteno/Sureno violence on the streets.

Anonymous said...

so were calote & sailor ever blaimed for the death of chy from there comrads ? if they would'nt of insited the violence the mm member chy would still be alive ? or was it a conspricay against chy , a majority vote since i would think his faction knew of his trip down to palm hall from were he was at ? sounds fishy but who knows ?

Anonymous said...

To Tijuana Jailer,I heard there was a little fire that started in the house where that double homicide took place in Bakersfield 1975,something Mundo left out in his book.I bought Mundo's CD,I was number 75 from the first 100 cds that were sold, it was signed by Mundo Mendoza my brother was in picture 6 and 10.

Anonymous said...

In response to Anonymous' question as to whether there has been intercepted NF/EME communication.

Yes in recent years it was discovered that the EME upper echelon approached the NF during the 2000 peace talks at the Bay. Members from all factions of the big organizations, EME/AB/BGF/NLR were encouraged by the CDCR at Pelican Bay SHU to walk freely among the SHU units to discuss the possibility of reducing prison violence in California prisons. NF was also offed to participate and bring 3 members of their organization to the table to participate in the peace talks and walk-abouts but the NF hierarchy refused. They (NF) claimed that they were currently under indictment in the "Operation Black Widow" case. But then so were EME members and they still participated.

Each organization gave assurances that no violence would occur during this process and all efforts were undertaken to involve the NF but proved futile. They refused.

One good result from the interaction between NF/EME was the establishment of the "Door Policy" at the Bay and Corcoran state prisons. CDCR staff had a penchant for popping the wrong doors during yard releases, showers, etc. of rival members and forcing an altercation. The result was Surenos/Nortenos, Carnales from both sides engaging in battle on the tiers. Many got shot or received additional sentences as a result of these "arranged confrontations". The leadership of both organizations agreed that; "if the doors were to open nobody was obligated to engage in battle unless they were challenged or threatened". It was called; "The Door Policy". It held and still holds the current policy at the Bay but unfortunately as of 3/4/11. communication was intercepted in Corcoran state prison that indicates that Surenos?Nortenos-NF/EME are engaged in open conflicts within the SHU with orders to attack each other even if "cuffed up" during escorts while under escort if anyone feels threatened or the need to. So it would appear that the door policy established in 2000 is finally starting to dissolve at least in Corcoran.

It does prove one thing though.. That the NF/EME has worked in unison in the recent past and can accomplish goals to reduce the violence if both feel that it benefits their respective organizations.

Peace.

Pepsi Man.

Anonymous said...

Champ must have his thing in action because those big busts from SGV to IE were Feds.

Also with all the in fighting I don't see the Big Homies ever locking it all down, too much jealousy and envy amongst them. Instead of football they all want to play basketball.


Youngster with Game

El Cheapo said...

Did you guy's really pay $50 for the book? If so, was it worth it?

Drunken Hare said...

i have to disagree with tijuana jailer on one count: "Disorganized" crime. what is organized crime? the capacity to generate enough money to live lavishly on the streets? Or is it a criminal organization's ability to subvert the institutions of civil society in first nations, the way russian and italian mobs have been able to do? or is organized crime simply a criminal enterprise with a strict set of rules. if organized crime is the latter, then the EME is a great example of "organzied" crime, not "disorganized" crime, her lack of opulent corruption notwithstanding.

Anonymous said...

I'm glad TJ is back, and hello to SNS, I commented in the past (years ago) I wish this blog was updated more! And do we really still call him Wally? Everyone knows his name now! Looking forward to more on that EME timeline from TJ and where it can be found....