MONGOLS PAY TRIBUTE?
I've been sitting on this one for a while because I couldn't verify it. But now it seems every neighborhood I've talked to seems to know about it. It's become common knowledge on the street and there's tacit verification from at least two LE sources. I'll refrain from using names but it seems that at least one brother has made a deal to lift the verde off the Mongols in exchange for a sum of money. The amount I've heard repeatedly is $30,000. Apparently, in exchange for the money, this brother is promising to not tax the Mongols in the future. It's supposed to be a one time deal to bury the hatchet.
But apparently, it's not that simple. There's another brother out there who isn't happy about this. Either because he's not seeing his share of the loot or there's some personal beef in the background that he feels hasn't been settled yet. This brother is also of the opinion that the green should only be lifted if the bikers agree to be taxed on an ongoing basis. Politics, politics.
Okay, so don't shoot the messenger. I'm just telling you what people in the neighborhoods are talking about. The story's out there and I'm just putting it on the air for comment. Don't bother flaming this blog with who has the bigger set of cojones and how down either side is for their clicka. Nobody with a lick of smarts wants to get on the bad side of either of these two warring groups. It's not about that.
Wednesday, September 07, 2005
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1 – 200 of 1033 Newer› Newest»no one wants to touch this, but you know the bikers egos are hurt and if one of the brothers isnt over it yet you gotta believe we aint heard the last of this
The Mongols shouldn't have their egos bruised. A one time payment of 30,000 sounds pretty good if they will no longer be taxed. I would consider it a victory for them. Under such a deal, it would seem the payment is so the EME can save face. It would give other groups hope for a similiar deals in the future. Do mongols claim sureno? If so they should pay on a regular basis lest other sureno gangs think they can do the same. A one time 30,000 payment is getting off easy.
"Now you know pieface wasn't weak, and I know pieface wasn't weak, but what about El Chaco, what did he think? You see its not just being weak that we can't accept, its about people even begining to think that were showing weakness that we can't accept... " from American Me
Well, it seems the Mongols have it coming at them from all sides...first from the ATF Agent that infiltrated them, and now from EME. It would seem they need to do a little more research on who they do business with, wouldn't it? They're already smarting from this agent's refusal to go into hiding and flaunting his book in their face; can they afford not to cut a deal with EME at this point? Otherwise they're running from both sides of the law; they've got to side with someone. The shit they swim in just seems to get deeper...
We all have to remember also, that the Eme isn't really some "big time organized crime syndicate" that really know how buisness is dome. Come on now, 30 grand, give me a break. Do you think the Triads, Russina Mafia, Yakuza, etc. would settle for chump change? 30 grand is nada "homes". We dealing with low level son-of-immigrant punks that think this kind of money id grand. If you ask me, the Mongols are the ones pimping the Eme. Think about all the chiva these biker dudes are moving. 30 grand?? Thats nothing. But then again, what do you expect from a bunch of shoot-em-cowboys with no education. Maybe they should hire some CPA's to "tax" people. LOL. Oh man, my own joke had me rolling.
"We all have to remember also, that the Eme isn't really some "big time organized crime syndicate" that really know how buisness is dome"
THEY HAVE PLENTY OF KILLERS AND THE GUYS ON TOP ARE NO DUMMIES. yOU DON'T GIVE THEM ENOUGH CREDIT
Sounds like a COMPROMISE to me. If I'm an EME guy, I don't compromise with anyone. If I'm a Mongol, I don't pay no lump sum payoff to EME! So, IF THIS ALLEGED AGREEMENT IS TRUE, it's a case of BOTH sides losing face and BOTH sides gaining something. Is the word COMPROMISE in the bad guy dictionary?
Another thing to remember is that the Mongols once had a "working relationship" with EME - a big time working relationship. Once this "settlement" takes place, does the EME resume conducting biz with the Mongol Nation ... or not?
Only their hairdressers know for sure.
KMA
Give them enough credit?? On top of things?? Like what? They own no stock, hold no degrees, invest in ruining people's lives. Listen hear there young buck, I have family that has ran with these hoods and I give credit when credit is due. But to flaunt your shit while your in jail playing butt darts with other inmates does not deserve any "crediting" Don't be fooled homeboy, 30 grand aint shit. These wannabe mafiosos will probablly spend all that money on fixing up a 1976 Caprice Classic and still be missing some parts. I give credit to people who are electrical engineers, neurosurgeons, nurses, fire fighters. You dig homeboy. So don't come off with "these dudes are in high places" because the only high these punks will see is the "HIGH DESERT STATE PEN" (which coincidentally houses some of my family memebers) Don't get your shit twisted. Real power lies in education, not subordination!!
(Don't get your shit twisted. Real power lies in education, not subordination!!)
I think all of this goes without saying, my friend. They are ALL scumbags and that part is understood. Giving them credit? I doubt that the credit you speak of may not be forthcoming in their lifetime.
Even if they owned stock or held any degrees or knew how to funnel their "hard earned cash", why would we be giving them "credit"?
Answer: We wouldn't.
Your anger is shared by many, sir.
To glorify these people is one thing; to discuss how these guys interact in their world is another.
Think of yourself as observer in a laboratory scrutinizing mice (or is it rats?)
KMA
Sounds like the 'angry' anonymous guy got some personal issues with a 'brother'. Don't doubt that a carnal and/or his family got some legit business going on (at the same time paying for family's education), the smart one's are the one's who don't get caught and don't put their business out there for lames like anonymous angry guy to hear or read.
We were talking about criminality. So if the issue is being savage criminals, then yes they do deserve more credit than they are getting here. You got shit twisted and came out of left field with all your college hoopla when we were discussing their ability to fued with the Mongols. I agree 30,000 aint shit which is why I said the Mongols would be getting off real easy to pay that amount and have it over and done with.
Now on the college issue, I will give more props to the uneducated paisa, former cholo, or any raza who came from the gutter and still owns a restaurant, bodyshop, whatever the fuck in spite of having UNEDUCATED parents and growing up in the varrio. Before i give CREDIT to some fucker who's mom and dad always told them they go to college( and I do that to my kids), bought them a car to go to school ( I'll do that for my kids), and even paid their fucking rent and tuition while they were at college ( I hope to do that for my kids as well) I'll give props to the raza that rose from nothing to a little something even if they aint doctors. You don't get it twisted HOMIE because its real fucking easy to get a degree when you don't live in the hood. Watch who you give credit to ESE because alot of motherfu@#$rs with degrees didn't work as hard for them as that paisa did to open his lanscaping business.
By the way, I have a degree in chemistry I earned all by my lonely. My family didn't give a fuck about college so no support there. The homies thought it was firme but never kicked in with cash for books or tuiton, maybe rides to school. The days I didn't get a ride, I walked through the hood and even an enemy hood to get there. I was lucky to not get caught slipping, but you know the hood is always full of stray dogs running in packs and even they tried to fuck with me but I got a firme jale in end and now hope to turn my kids into those engineers & doctors you talk about who never knew how hard it was to climb out of the projects.
I don't forget where I came from homie, sounds like you did or were never there!
I agree thirty thousand is not very much money, and by the not every surenos clique pays taxes
i think both sides are losing face, 1st i thought le didnt compromise with nobody, 2nd on the fox undercover special the longhair biker who didnt want to show his face said they would never pay, right before he said their leader was a coward
Any history on the Mongols here? Who started them, current leaders, major hits on rivals etc tec
You'd think the mongols and EME would be the same considering where they grew up in the same places. You'd think most EME have one family member in the mongols or vice versa.
Hey Sancha,
can I get that bourbon now? this vato got me going talking that shit about "sons of immigrants with no education."
"You'd think the mongols and EME would be the same considering where they grew up in the same places. You'd think most EME have one family member in the mongols or vice versa."
maybe thats why its only 30,000 and not because the dumb mexicans think 30,000 is going to have them living large por vida seeing how they have no business sense.
Lets just call me Contender. And to the vato that said people dont know where they came from or what they have, loco I agree. But have you ever heard of that saying, "work smarter, not harder." Now listen hear homeslice, not everyone needs some pinta stripes to go to college. As you said, you are going to pay for all that jazz for your children, so technically, they might not appreciate what was given to them now, would they?? It's a possiblity. Now I'm not here for a pissing contest. I'm stating my opnions and facts. Congrats on your Chem. degree. I hate Chemistry. Who gives a fuck about the table of periodic elements. LOL. I'm just saying that 30 g's isnt shit. And the EME talks all this pride masa and we aint no suckers masa, well then why are they settling for chump change?? One of those Mongols bikes are worth 30 grand. So who's getting pimped?? The Mongols walk and continue on their way, the EME shares 30 g's with about 150 true carnales. Do the math. Thats $200 per carnale. Enough to buy them some more soap and cigs at the canteen.
[[Thats $200 per carnale. Enough to buy them some more soap and cigs at the canteen.]]
If, if and more if. "If" the Mongols are paying off the EME for offending them; "if" the EME is dumb enough to accept this payment rather than enslave them (the Mongol Slaves is a great name!); "if" and "if". If Grandma had balls, she'd be grandpa too.
First of all, do we really know what in fact has taken place here? Who knows? The EME never gave in to Maravilla's resistance to tax and now Maravilla is on the tax rolls.
Maravilla gang members alone would "bitch slap" (as in a man back handing a member of the opposite sex) a smelly ass Mongol, Hell's Angel or any other Harley riding scoundrel.
First question: Is a biker gang subject to taxation? If not (there's that "if" word again") then what would preclude someone from EME from "hitting" them for $30 G's?
I personally don't like EME for personal reasons but I don't see them vatos giving in to any 'hood or group if tax monies are involved. They know for a fact that these fools will end up in county and some in the pinta. So, if they have that threat and the Sureno Nation at their disposal, why wouldn't they simply wait for them to enter the jail system.
Smells more to me like some sort of "business alliance". The Mongols will pay whatever amount ("if" this is true) and they will "move" EME's meth? God knows what they have cooking.
But from my street experience, it sounds very uncharacteristic of the EME dudes that I am familiar with. Food for thought.
East L.A. Boy
Yeah 30K is a very cheap one time buyout. Id worry about if anyone will remember it 3 years from the day?
R2000
MONGOLS should be subjected to being taxed,due to the fact that the MONGOLS have recruited gang dropouts that still go up to people ask where they are from,they claim MONGOLS and bang against VARRIOS that are SOUTHSIDE,
they have members that are MONGOLS
and are GREENLIGHTERS from LOWELL
STREET,and HAPPY VALLEY! When they are all together they bang,They are always together in the clubs,walk in lookin like a vato,and you'll see,They(the MONGOLS)act like gang bangers!
IT'S NOT SO MUCH THE 30 GRAND (if indeed that is the truth)but about PRINCIPAL! 30g's may not be much to some people,but in my neck of the woods it's ALOT!! I GUESS SOME PEOPLE HERE! WANT TO MAKE THE BROTHERS OUT TO BE DUMB,AND THAT THEY ARE GETTIN PIMPED,NOT TRUE WHO RUNS THE JAILS/PRISONS? BROTHERS NOT BIKERS!WHO HAS MORE SOLDIERS!!!GUESS WHO!!SO EVERYBODY KNOWS EVEN THE BIKERS!WHO RUNS WHAT!SO IF YOU FIRMLY DENOUNCE THE BROTHERS,THEN YOUR SADLY MISTAKEN!
I KNOW MANY MONGOLS,THEY DON'T WANT NONE,MANY DROPPED OUT,SOME JUST WENT INTO HIDING,AND MANY ARE GOING WITH THE FLOW,THEY STICK TO THEMSELVES,THEY DON'T PUT ON THEIR VEST WHEN THERE OUT!IN VEGAS WHEN THE HELLS ANGELS RUSHED THEM,ALMOST ALL MONGOLS TOOK OFF THEIR VESTS DURING AND AFTER THE FIGHT!NOT TO AVOID LE BUT TO AVOID GETTIN THEIR BUTTS WHIPPED,HOW MANY HELLS ANGELS TOOK OFF THEIR VEST? NONE!! WHEN YOU REPRESENT SOMETHING THAT YOU LIVE AND ARE WILLING TO DIE FOR,YOU DONT THROW YOUR PATCHES IN THE TRASH CAN,THATS LIKE A GANGMEMBER SAYING HE'S FROM NOWHERE!
how long has lowell been holding out against the tax?
East LA boy, I ride a Harley and I smell very nice, thank you very much.
Well I know 30 G'S is not much but, you guys act like it is getting split up between the all the "big homies". Where I am from and what I have seen is one "carnale" has the keys to the varrio but, although they are "in the mix" they answer to another "carnale" who is probably bigger. The one from my neighborhood dosen't even live on the west coast he calls shots from the midwest and only comes down when stuff is getting out of hand. Another thing is I know for a fact he is not even the guy who runs this particular valley another "Big Homie" who is in the joint has more juice and makes calls over him. So this measley 30 grand might be what one "bighomie" is asking for in his own area. That probably is not for the other "big homies" that run certain valley"s or districts.
"Youngster with game"
i feel it is only the weaker clicks with no serious reprentation that end up getting punked or taxed as far as big homies only coming around when there is problems or calling shots from another part of the nation i have seen that to be a reason to be taxed so as far as 30,000 dollars goes who even know if this individual has even been given the verde to demand this?
Yea "youngster with game" your wise beyond your years and you seem to understand the movida in play which will keep you out of the pedo and alive. Finally a breath of fresh air.
So if only one big homie is calling off the verde, will the mongols still get hit in another big homie's area since he didn't see the 30k.
Thats what Im saying, too many cheifs and not enough indians
You just said it that is the reason why there is not and probably won't be any organization within the Eme (thank god). I have been around some of the "Big Homie's" and there isn't many that like to sit back and follow orders for "the cause". These are very proud men and that will always be their down fall.
Just for your info:When I say use the word "Big Homie" that is a righteous member of the Eme. I grew up using that word for "them kind of people". Also "in the mix" means in the politics.
Also to anonymous, it does not matter how stong a gang is they all will fall in line. Most every righteous gang has a made member some have multiple those guys have alot of influence within the gang. They make it sound so good and not a big deal to be taxed which I don't think it is. All it is "is a police station for wiseguys" to quote Goodfellas, and believe me they do protect the guys who pay their taxes. It is just people who don't know what time it is that make it worst then it is. Your not a bitch if you pay because "together they are stronger". Another thing why shouldn't the mongols pay taxes? Paying gives them protection in the jails and joints and also they are not special. In my neighborhood
everyone pays even casual vatos who are not from the varrio.
"Youngster with Game"
In my neighborhood
everyone pays even casual vatos who are not from the varrio.
So everyone pays even if they aren't involved with crime?
No I mean if your dealing then you pay no matter if you are from the varrio or you are casual but still "do your thing". Paying taxes is like paying the cost for protection so you won't be hasseled. Also the tax varies atleast in my neigborhood the varrio doesn't pay one lump sum every individual pays what they can as long as your cool you don't have to kick much just what you can you can even kick in dope some time. Espescially if the "Big homie" just got home and he is trying to get his own thing together. On this board everyone watched to many movies, the "Big Homies" I have been around were pretty cool almost like a big kid still chasing broads, partying, and hanging out busting balls in the alley. Of course when it is time to take care of buisness you will see the evil come out. I personally would be and still am on my P's and Q's around them because after all they have no other allegiance except to the Eme and espescially themselves. Just an example two "Big Homies" I was around alot told my friends they would kill them if they had to with a stone cold face. Now mind you 3 of my friends were his sons that were 19 to 23. The others were 13 through 18 and they were this guys little cousins. These incidents were ten years apart I am 24 now.
"Youngster with Game"
I seriously doubt this is true. Most probably a rumor started on the streets. 30k or whatever the amount would set a precedent for future business and possible other buyouts?
I agree with the other vatos on here that say it would show sign of weakness on Eme's part. None of this makes any sense, why would they continue to let them be tax free after the buyout? We all know if it don't make dollars than it don't make sense.
What other types of criminals would have to pay taxes besides dealers? eg. hookers, pimps, guys who rob stores in the hood etc etc.
Pimps, Hookers, Bookies,etc. Whoever is doing business in or on that neighborhood. Some other organized crime groups also tax civilians, such as shop owners. Basically paying protection on the streets. The ironic thing is the protection money is paid to protect the shop owners from them.
The asian gangs are well known for extorting from local store owners in the chinatown areas accross the US. Most immigrants keep to themselves and are easy prey since they will not tell the cops they are being preyed upon. EME didn't invent taxing, its been around for long time.
I still say only the weak pay, there is alot and I mean alot of varrios out there that dont pay taxes There is also ALOT of burn out fool trying to use their eme connections to collect and get away with it if they kick up. There is alot of this going on and alot of them get away with it like the post before the pride will be the constant problem to deal with
i agree with retiredjoker
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050908/ap_on_re_us/gang_arrests
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050908/ap_on_re_us/gang_arrests
with so many MS13 members, you'd think they would have been able to resist the tax.
MS 13 tried to be tax free and it didn't work out. You got to understand that not all Maras are connected and many are rivals. MS 13 in LA is big, but 18th street and Florencia 13 are still bigger and they pay taxes. The Maras that come from Central America don't matter in SoCal. Now this hole Mara thing to me is propaganda for the boder issue. People just don't understand that the Maras need a lot of help and pay people to come through that border. The Cartels and Polleros are in complete control on what goes on there. Maras couldn't summgle terrorist even if they wanted too. If a click cheated them the Cartel or Pollero would round up that click, take into the desert, and then kill them all right there. And that would only take a day, I mean literally only one day. It has happen before, not to the Maras but other groups of criminals.
Now saying that, because that MS13 propaganda is getting on my nerves, I think some people are taking the Mongols a little bit to seriously. I mean if gangs like 18th street and MS13 tried to be tax free and failed really what chance do Mongols have. I mean 18th street make a hole lot more money than the Mongols ever could. To tell you the truth compared to the big gangs the Mongols look kind of weak.
And what is with that guy saying only weak little gangs pay EME. 18 street, Florencia, and MS13 pay them and they are 3 biggest gangs in California. Just because a few that for the most part keep a very low profile, ask the Vineland Boyz how muched they hid when they had the green light on them, you are trying to make it sound like a lot do. 1% compared to 99% that do pay up is not a lot. Either way why are you getting all mad about EME, it's not like they are forcing you to pay up. Or are they? LOL.
BUT TRUTH IS MONGOLS CAN TRY TO GET AWAY WITH RESISTING,AND MIGHT DUE QUITE WELL,THEY DRESS NORMAL AND ARE LOW KEY,EVER SINCE THAT INCIDENT IN LAS VEGAS,THEN WITH THE BROTHERS ON THEIR BACK,YOU GOT EVERY SOUTHSIDER ON THEIR TOES,BUT MONGOLS ELUDE EVERYONE CAUSE THEY KICK BACK IN NIGHTCLUBS THEY CAN CONTROL,AND TRAVEL IN PACKS IN VERY LOW KEY KIND OF WAY,THEY NEVER FLY THEIR PATCHES ANYMORE!THEY LOST ALOT OF LOVE WITH MANY PEOPLE,EVEN THE CASUAL PEOPLE,MANY PEOPLE THAT GO OUT TO THESE NIGHTCLUBS GET PUNKED BY THEM,AND MANY OF THESE PEOPLE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER HAVE RELATIVES OR KNOW A SOUTHSIDER,AND EVEN THEY KNOW THE MONGOLS WILL NOT BE ABLE TO STAND UP TO THE SOUTHSIDE!SO WHEN THE MAJORITY IS ROOTING FOR THE SURENOS,YOU KNOW SOMEWHERE DOWN THE LINE THATS WHERE ALL THE RECRUITS ARE GONNA GO!
i know alot of hoods that dont pay taxes i think its just the ones closer in have to because lets be honest who are they really protecting only people whoever get handled are the ones higher up on the ladder not the whole click larger clicks have eme members que no
I think you mean larger clique's have more eme members???????????
Hey Don Quix or TJ......
What do you guys know about the "pariente" from Hayward who recently passed away?? Hope you or other vatos out there know who I am talking about. Was it natural or "man made"? Also anyone taking the spot.
Respectfully,
Wolf
Guy who has a chip on his shoulder about Eme, your last post did not make a lick of sense. And once again it is not alot of hoods, just be honest and say it is very few that don't pay up. Maybe you are talking about little toy ass gangs that people can't really tell if they exist or not.
Since the topic appears to be "Taxes", i thought some of you "computer OG's" may be interested in the following article from 8-22-05, of carnal, Peter Ojeda and his taxing on peewees.
http://www.sierratimes.com/05/08/22/205_188_116_14_51094.htm
Respectfully,
El Wolf
Can we get a list of varrios/clubs/hoods/whatevers that refude to pay taxes and are "green": All Maravilla, I cant think of any else??
I also heard that Opal St. was green lighted recently
Past Green Lighters: Basset Grande, Tortilla Flats, Gardena 13, Avenues, All Asians(is this still in affect??)
OK since you seem to know so much explain to me how these taxes are collected from varrios and clique's ...is it like church and pass around the plate is there a 5 day grace period? How do they account for who has paid and how hasent? OR is it simply they pick certain areas that they demand payment at a certain point in time? Help me undrestand?
It's not rocket science how the shits collected... dude explained there's brothers that got llaves over certain areas, neighborhoods, and people... smart one's don't keep a specific pattern or use the same routes... who the fuck are YOU anyway that anyone needs to explain anything. All you lames need to get off the fucken nuts and stay out of the affairs of others!
SOUTHSIDE Biiiiatch! =o)
Lets also be realisitic here. NOT ALL varrios pay taxes. They are hundreds I'd say that dont. You have these up and coming new-booty, mickey mouse type crews that are throwing a 13 after thier name/street/crew/etc. Taggers going around saying "trece" The eme's arm dont reach that high and it is impossible to go to every hood and collect. Now the main gangs(we're talking big time ties) do give thier share. What comes to mind is varrios like F13/18/C14/38/BMS, you get the picture. But trust me, no ones is going out to the Antelope Valley, Santa Clarita Valley and the far reaches of the Inland Empire to collect from some 30 man gang. And now, all over los angeles you have small time tagger that claim the Sur. In south central: MCP(Mexicans Causing Panic), watts: KMW 13(killing mobb watts 13), in huntington park: WEC 13(we control 13), east los: AIC 13(aztecs invading califas 13) and so on and so forth. These a just a little of the many crews that are claming sur. No history, stripes, just a bunch of taggers that want to bang. Now, how is the eme going to regulate these ppl?? They're not and they cant. Not enough manpower on the outside. And just a little side note, I once too hung with a varrio. For only 5 yrs. And during that tenure, I never nor did my clika, ever once pay anything to anyone. And the varrio I kicked it with wa sin L.A Pretty well known too.
After giving an explanation you post this:"All you lames need to get off the fucken nuts and stay out of the affairs of others!
SOUTHSIDE Biiiiatch! =o)"
your fcking stupid ese, if you feel this way, don't explain how shits works first! pendejo!
Contender that was very well put, hey if you want to debate and put input I thought that what this was about NOT Internet gangbanging.
I just reiterated what homie already went over you fucken lop... you're the fucken dumb ass for not minding your own business ese, I know where I stand you fucken rata. Get off the nuts biiiatch!
Damn Wetbacks!
Look Homeboy! Thats not what you said and insults dont bother me because I not on that low of a level. I know whats up, what i dont know is up, is other peoples perspectives and insights. If you are ignorant to understand that then go on with you name calling and insults it does not bother me.
Contender you seem to think the Eme is stationed in only one region, county or valley. Eme members are from a bunch of different cities it is not hard for them when they come home to hit up people for the 411 on who is doing "there thing". I know when "Big Homies" come out that is one of the first things they start asking about. You don't think alot of people want to help them? Shit all kinds of people want to try and score points with them form the 11 year old little homie to the 50 year old dope feind. So it is not that hard because most of the time "Big Homies" get keys to there area's they are familiar with. I don't know if they have homie's running things in a varrio they are not from. Another thing you know how many homies want to get "in the mix" now? I could think of at least 6 personal friends that are moving into that stuff. Early 20's homie that's not even the older guys in the neighborhood that are trying to get put on.
"youngster with game"
yea I know when a couple of big homies hit the pavement everyone comes by to bring them cash and let um know whats up I can remember alot when we went to the mall and the big homie was like is that how everyone dresses now? and just cath up on things
To the vato who keeps hurling insults, come on loco, relax. No need to try and get all hard through cyber space. All I'm doing is chatting and stating opinions. Now, back on point. I'm not saying the eme isnt mobile, I'm just saying it is impossible for them to regulate everywhere. And I know plenty of vatos that want to help them out. I never denied that. But lets be realistic. Sloppy buisness is what defines the eme. Shitting in thier own varrio and telling people, "no more drive-by's" just "walk-by's" COme on now homie, how are they going to go anywhere witht that sort of in your face mentality. And if you think they are big time for taxing people for 30,000 I suggest you go to the History channel and look up some russian, asain, and italian buisness and see how much these dudes were "peddling" cash for. In the millions homeboy. So when the carnales hit that tier, they'll get a nice response. Tu sabes loco? Alot of machismo on this site. LOL
Nice response from who? You? Get a life, nobody cares what you think!
I really hope the Eme stays the way it is by no means do I want them becoming more sophisticated and more powerful then they already are. The other thing the russians I have to give it up for them they are smart and were able to exploit they're country's money problems for their own personal gain. The Italians are on the history channel for the exact reason, they are history. Only the Italians in Italy do well because it's Italy bro they are no where near as advanced as America in combating crime. As for the Asians I really don't now about them I just know they don't like Raza and I don't trip on them either.
P.S. By no means do I promote what La Eme stands for or am I proud of knowing people who "might" be affiliated. I think it is bad for Raza and I hate to see my friends following the "Big Homies" to the sad lifestyle. I have just been around it most of my life and type as I think it is or have seen it.
"youngster with Game"
The Triad's or "The Asian Mafia" is probably the most organized crime syndicate in the world.
Who do you think invented this form of taxation?
Triads have been around for centuries, dare I say a 1000 years.
Secret societies who pray on their own but shun the spotlight. They try not to get involed with steet level business but dealing with larger levels.
Wheere do you think all the smack in this country comes from? As well as counterfeiting, prostitution, shit even slavery. Very sad to what they do to their own. Le eme does it their own Raza also, just not on such a grand scale.
"P.S. By no means do I promote what La Eme stands for or am I proud of knowing people who "might" be affiliated. I think it is bad for Raza and I hate to see my friends following the "Big Homies" to the sad lifestyle. I have just been around it most of my life and type as I think it is or have seen it."
you talk about it as if really bad but what i think you fail to realize is that the homies that get involved in stuff like that have a totally diferent mentally to you it might be sad but to the homie that grew up not really having any other "role model" to look up to, it might mean the whole world to walk among men they admire....... "beauty is in the eye of the beholder"
"Very sad to what they do to their own."
the history of this world has been written with one basic rule he who is stronger will survive.... or in other words.... en este mundo hay que chingar a todo el que se deje............
Now you know pieface wasn't weak, and I know pieface wasn't weak, but what other people, what about El Chaco, what did he think? You see its not just being weak that we can't accept, its about people even begining to think that were showing weakness that we can't accept... " from American Me
After posting this and giving it some more thought, I had to realize a big part of being strong and powerful is the ability to fake weakness, to make your enemies underestimate you. I don't know if this is going on or not but knowing how to lose is a big part of knowing how to win!
wha?!?1? that last comment to deep for ya'll?
I think you hit a nerve ese.
CONTENDER..THE AVENUES BEING FORMER GREENLIGHTERS?..ARE U FUKIN KIDDING?NEVER HAPPENED.NOW I KNOW YOUR TALKING OUT YOUR ASS FOOL.NOT EVEN WHEN THAT LIL WHITE GURL DIED IN THE ALLEY,WHICH WOULDA GOT MOST VARRIOS LIGHTED.I'M SURE IF U ASK WALLY HE'LL EXPLAIN TO YOU WHY THE AVE'S DIDN'T.I HOPE NEXT TIME U POST SUMTHING,U MAKE SURE ITS ACCURATE.
Contender, Los Avenidas never had any green on them. Ever. They're so deep in the mix that they green up other neighborhoods like HP and Lowell. Look at all the carnals that came up out of AVES. Check your facts. They're crying the blues a little right now cause a lot of the weight is in custody. But they aint belly crawling yet.
RETIREDJOKER WRITES:
"Very sad to what they do to their own. Le eme does it their own Raza also, just not on such a grand scale."
So True. ACTIONS speaks volumes.
As does AB on NLR and so on. Just u wait and see...PEN1 THINKS they are safe. For now. Seems woods have rode onto dirty track on the "ins"
So we see that in Albert. TRAITOR.
Muds got him by the short hairs.
Guess he's taking orders from a "Higher Power" now eh?
Fuck Albert. Sharky was cool dude.
shall we mention scottish? --> huh?
PEN1 traitors achieved ONE thing...
MAJOR DAMAGE to chican/woods in OC.
AB ---> no loyalty.
Alrato
CONTENDER!!!
YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT,COULDN'T HANG IN THE STREET,AND NOW YOU WANT TO PREACH?HEY HOMIE,IF YOUR SINCERE,AND REALLY BELIEVE WHAT YOU SAY,THEN TAKE IT TO THE STREET!!PREACH IT TO THE RAZA,DON'T WORRY,CAUSE IF YOUR RIGHT,YOU WON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS.
IM NOT PICKING SIDES,BUT I HATE TO SEE GANG DROPOUTS TALKING CRAP ONLINE,CAUSE IF YOU WERE A BETTER PERSON,YOU WOULDN'T EVEN LOG ON THIS WEBSITE!!YOU WOULD OF LEFT IT ALL!!! AAAALLLLLLL!!! BEHIND!!!
Contender. I think you are a fake. That shit you said about Eme not worrying about taggers is stupid. Why would eme be worried about something with the life span of a month, that hide like bitches from real gangs? Oh and Kmob Watts 13 is a real gang. For real homeboy you post some dumb shit. Avenues once having the greenlight on them? That is one of the dumbest things I ever heard from a guy who supposedly ran with a gang.
And why are you even briging up the Russians and Asians. How would you know how much money and power they have. What you think that because you read a few things in the internet and see a few things on TV you want to believe you know what they do and how much money they make. People that write about street gangs get shit completely wrong and make up alot of things. I can only imagine the bullshit journalist and cops make up about the Russians and Asians. I just have a very strong misstrust of the media, I just don't believe every single thing I read they put out.
All you fools are funny on here. Now I'm not saying what contender is saying is right but I remember when Moreno from KAM 13 shanked a vato from AVES. in county. They were lit up fools. They did have some verde running down their back. Most of you cha chas get your info from reading about Peewee and his crew. How old are you socas anyways? NO varrio is immune. And the carnales cant do anything about taggers. Read his posts you cha-chas. All you fools speaking about the carnales and this vato gave his input. Now didnt he ask for some help on the "green light" list? So what the fuck is veryone getting all crazy for??
everyone always talking madness about the eme,you guys always fail to mention were the real gangsters came from(MARAVILLA)yup the real og's,every little chavala's from all non MARAVILLA varrio's like to hate becuase they can face the fact that WE DONT PAY TAXES TO ANYONE,NEVER WILL..so for all u haters who dont even know us,keep your mouth shut....cause were the real GANGSTERS......MARAVILLOS...EL FROG...
i got a quick question from all the old timwers out there or pretty much for any one that has any input on it.... i heard from an older homie that back in the day when the paisanos use to run with us, a few of them got made... im not saying its true im just asking if any one had ever heard of that???
i got a quick question from all the old timers out there or pretty much for any one that has any input on it.... i heard from an older homie that back in the day when the paisanos use to run with us, a few of them got made... im not saying its true im just asking if any one had ever heard of that???
HEY KERMIT(FROG) YOU MUST BE A DROPOUT! YOU GUYS DO,DON'T LIE! I GOT HOMIES FROM DIFFERENT MARAVILLAS...YUP SURE BUDDY YOUR A BADDASS!!ANSWER THIS...DO YOU WALK MAINLINE?
ANONYMOUS...KNOW I KNOW UR FAKE ASS FUK..THAT SHIT BOUT MORENO FROM AVES GETTING SHANKED IN COUNTY BY A VATO FROM KAM,IS ON THE NET U LAME.AND U TALKING BOUT WE GET OUR INFO FROM THE NET?LOL...CHECK THIS FOOL,MORENO GOT SHANKED COUSE HES NO GOOD,PERIOD.NOT COUSE THE AVES HAD A GREEN..BETTER YET,I'LL POST WHERE U GOT UR INFO FROM...
Cruz, whose moniker was “Moreno,” was a member of the Cypress clique of the predominately Hispanic Avenues Street (Avenues) gang. Appellant, whose moniker was “Shadow” or “Shakey,” was a member of another Hispanic
sddt.com/databases/appellate/ViewFile.cfm
On March 8, 2002, Deputy Carpenter found a green light list which described Cruz by his moniker, his name, his gang, and his clique within the gang. His name appeared on each of six other lists discovered between June 2001 and June 2003 -- every green light list recovered by deputies during that period. He was on the personal hard candy section of each of these lists...u see fool..he was on the list all on his own ,u net gangster....and we found your source...lol
He was on the personal hard candy section of each of these lists..did u get that?not the whole ave's ,but he himself..did u get that pendejo?stop looking on the net for ur info fool.
Since the Mongols and Hells Angels are mortal enemies, why dont the eme clik and doublr up on them? Also, are there any black gangs that have a green light?? I know Black-P-Stones are shooting at anything that looks Mexican near their hood. Nasty war with 18st down there.
were the real gangsters,,we run our own shit and keep all our money...not like all u bitches who pay rent to another man..thats a damb shame..lol...and u call yourself gangsters...thats a damb shame..MARAVILLA IS STILL TAX FREE..we run the line in the pinta..and do our own thing,we dont get told what to do...remember that little girls....EL FROG....MARAVILLOSO...TAX FREE...EAST L.A..
SO U WANNA HERE IT FROM SUM1 WHO REALLY KNOWS ? LETS SEE NOW , TONITO FROM SERENO A CARNAL GOT HIT IN BROAD DAYLIGHT FROM GREENLIGHT VATOS COMING OUT OF THE 99CENT CHINEESE ATFTER WILSON HIGH SKOOL LET OUT ABOUT 3:00 PM HE WAS RIDING IN THAT 67 BLACK IMPALA WITH HIS HOMIE BULLET WHO IS NOW DOING LIFE AND DIDNT SAY SHIT , AND BY THE WAY LOWELL DID THAT HIT ,NOW LETS SEE HOW MANY OTHER CARNAL HAVE HAD THERE ASS TAXED ? TERMITE FROM EAST SIDE LOS GOT CAUGHT SLIPPING AT THE SWAPMEET BY MARAVILLA,RASCAL TONY WHOS IN THE FEDS FOR BANK JALES ATE CHEESE WHEN CONFRONTED IN COLORADO BY MARAVILLA AND VATOS FROM TEXAS,THE EME HANGOUT IN SERENO AT SHAKY JOES AND BEANERS CANTON WAS ALWAYS BEING LIT UP BY VATOS FROM LOWELL AND MARAVILLA AND ALSO UNDERCOVERS FROM ES CLOVER, YOU KNOW WHO HE IS , SMILON, TONITO, SHAKY JOE, SHRYOK THE GAVACHO ALL ATE CHEESE WHEN GRIZZLY, RAGU,NITEOWL AND DREAMER KICKED DOWN THE DOOR AT BEANERS CANTON AND THOSE VATOS ATE SUM MEAN QUESO , I THINK IT WAS BLUE CHEESE, AND ALL SERENO REMEMBERS THAT , THERE OWN CARNAL HOMIE BEING DOWNED IN THE HEART OF THERE OWN VARRIO , SO YOU KNOW YOU HAVE TO GIVE THEM GREENLIGHTERS SUM CREDIT AND HOPE THE MONGOLS DONT TEAM UP WITH THEM BECAUSE, WHEN IS THE LAST TIME YOU LOOKED OVER YOUR SHOULDER WHEN A MOTORCYCLE OR A VATO WITH LONG HAIR WALKED BY? TRUCHA OR FOREVER HOLDE YOUR BREATH... COMING SOON TO YOUR HOOD .. A GREENLIGHTER.
Hey loco from mamaverga, get real ese. On the serio side, how many carnales have ran through Fisher St., Belvedere Park, and all through those hoods and bitch slapped your varrio? Vatos from KAM 13 Fairmount St. got their "13" in the pinta from earning stripes on that ass. You levas are straight rankers in the pinta. Leva Status ese. You know that term real well. Many soldiers from Lott Stoners are riding shotgun with the carnales because they hit mamavergas with a BOOM!! How many East Los/Boyle Heights/Lincoln/Clover/ blah blah locos are riding in the pinta because you levas are punching bags for the raza. Mamaverga projects has like 10 rejects who hang out once in a blue moon. The only other mantequilla that has ever did some pedo was Hoyo. And those "dump trucks" are the biggest cha chas around. So get on with this greenlight, hanging with the mongols, pedo, you levas are lightweight. "Aways has been, always will be."
Hey greenlighter, what about the time when "Loco" from maravilla got caught giving head to a teron in Palmas, and then Shryock sent a trustee to burn his whole face up with boiling coffee. Since you want to talk about old stories, lets stick to the facts and not fantasies passed down to you by your older homies who are rats and pc cases.
fuck noodles pinche ratas!!!!!
Hey boy from mv, what happened to your homeboy crow from mv (rock, lopez, pomeroy, high times? He's from one of these cliques). The vato that just got killed by Gerraughty~Loma? Wasn't that like last week? So, who's doing what down there?
FIRST OF ALL CONEX,YOU GOT YOUR STORY ALL MIXED UP,NOBODY EVER KICKED ANY DOOR DOWN,ESPECIALLY ANYBODY FROM LOWELL,I KNOW THESE FOOLS EVERYBODY YOU MENTIONED,1,NITEOWL ISN'T FROM LOWELL,2,DREAMER(WHO I KNOW)WENT INTO HIDING WHEN THE SHIT HIT THE FAN,3,BULLET NEVER GOT LIFE(YOU FIGURE OUT WHAT HAPPENED)4,BULLET WAS NOT WITH TONY WHEN HE GOT SHOT,5,LOWELL WOULD SHOOT UP CERTAIN PEOPLES HOUSE AT THE CRACK OF DAWN AND THEN RUN AND HIDE,THEY NEVER DID IT WHEN SERENO WAS STANDING THERE,6,GRIZZLY NEVER KICKED DOWN NO ONES DOOR,HE GOT INTO LOWELL AND SHORTLY GOT PARALLIZED SOON AFTER,7,TONY DID GET SHOT BUT LOWELL WANTS TO TAKE CREDIT,IF YOU (CONEX)KNOW WHATS UP!
I DON'T THINK YOU WOULD OF POSTED ALL THAT MISLEADING INFORMATION.
8,RAGU NEVER BANGED ON SERENO,HE NEVER CAME OUT OF HIS HOUSE,HE WOULD DRIVE THRU BUT THATS ALL,HIS FAMILY ARE ALL FROM SERENO,9,AS I MENTIONED NITEOWL IS NOT FROM LOWELL!HE IS FROM SERENO LOCKE ST.
YOUR JUST QUICK TO GIVE THEM GREENLIGHTERS TO MUCH CREDIT,LOWELL DIED OUT,ONLY A HANDFULL EXIST,BUT NOT IN SERENO,MAYBE CLOSE BYE BUT THEY CLAIM MONGOLS,LOL THEY COULDN'T EVEN HOLD THEIR GROUND.SERENO STILL HAD CONTROL AND STILL DOES!
SO CONEX WHERE EVER YOU GOT YOUR STORY FROM IT IS NOT THE FACTS!SO YOUR MOST LIKELY WRONG ON THE REST,
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY,WHO RULES
WHO GOTS THE MAJORITY? REMEMBER!!!
MAJORITY RULES!! NO LOWELL IS EVER GONNA TAKE OVER NOTHING,THEY COULDN'T HOLD THEIR GROUND!!
MONGOLS THEY'LL WAKE THAT SLEEPING GIANT ALRIGHT! IF THEIR SMART THEY'LL PLAY THEIR CARDS RIGHT,CAUSE THEY CAN'T EVEN HANG IN A FIGHT WITH THE HELLS ANGELS THAT WAS ONLY A FEW HUNDRED IN VEGAS, IMAGINE THE THOUSANDS OF SOUTHSIDERS, NOPE NO WAY!
I ALSO KNOW MANY MONGOLS,THEY DON'T WANT NONE,THEY KNOW IT WOULD BE HARD FOR THEM,BESIDES I KNOW SOUTHSIDERS THE ARE READY FOR ANYTHING,SO C'MON,DON'T WRAP YOURSELF IN YOUR DREAMS,IT'S ABOUT NOW,REALITY,WHO'S RUNNING THE BIG SHOW!! NOT MONGOL! NOT LOWELL!
Southern United Raza! THAT'S WHO!
P.S.
WHO REALLY DID PUT THE BOP IN THE BOP SHOOBOP DOOWAP?
CAUSE I JUST FOUND WHO PUT THE RAM IN THE RAMALAMA DIN DONG!!
that is so true,CONEX! you must be a green lighter buddy,your full of lies,you just want to hype shit up,your only fooling yourself,i don't root for nobody but the truth is the truth! and your lying! or your listening to the wrong people!
Conex runs a website for Maravilla and greenlighters. He's obviously at war with the surenos and everyone knows winning wars requires the ability to be deceptive. (the first casualty of war is the truth) I have to hand it to him for not going out without a fight, even one waged on the internet. Who knows maybe his propaganda will ignite the mind of someone who can organize those capable of standing up to the SUR. Besides, I thought gangsters always rooted for the underdog!
No One can defeat The Almighty SURENOS TRECE movement!
Arrogance comes before a fall...
Since this particular subject has gone to hell. Check out this article.
Its a crackdown on MS13 throught the us. The interesting part of the article is where they state there are over 50,000 MS-13 Members in Mexico, Guatemala, El Salvador and Honduras and thats not even counting the ones here.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/08/AR2005090801355.html
we dont care about ms13, only the chicanos
^^^Co-Signed!
Think about it Retired Joker is a farmer. " These are not are people ese they are nothing but lame ass farmers from up north" American Me
Just trying to show you vatos outside of califas whats going on. And don't get it twisted. MS-13 is not just salvies anymore. Chicanos and even white boys and as they spread accross the US they will pick up even more.
Farmer? Me? If you mean farmer as in "I farm cash", yes. You see, Cash is a very good crop to maintain.
Job and Car, look into it. Or are you still waiting for your moms to iron your lil cut off Bens so you can go down to your babys mamas house and ask her for some money from her check that just came two weeks ago?
Come on lil loco moco, you can surely do better than that. Quoting "American Me"? Come on homie, show a lil originality. At least Qoute "Boulevard Nights"...
Alrato Taco!
MS is dirty
You should be ashamed of yourself for calling Joker a farmer with derogatory intent. You've probably been in the states a long time as have your parents and still can't make it out of the ghetto, that makes you a pendejo!
Everything ok out there in LA? I just saw the power go out, thats some crazy shit. Now every light is a 4 way stop!
R2000
now back to the news, the bikers are getting it easy but dont think the big homie with the chip on his shoulder isnt gonna lay this one to rest
I had to read about the MS13 and how they waged war against the EME when first asked to pay taxes, the number I keep hearing is $5,000.00 to end the war. It was fucked up for the EME to broker a truce with MS13 when the MS was at war with longtime chicano gangs from Maravilla and even 18street. MS13 even burned a mexican flag!(a good example of selling out the raza) Apparently the MS13 held their own until the M accomodated them. Whats MS13 look like in LA now? EME should have them drop the 13 from their name as it will no doubt bring LE heat on all gangs claiming 13 eventually.
TO: "Youngster With Game" ....
(So this measley 30 grand might be what one "bighomie" is asking for in his own area. That probably is not for the other "big homies" that run certain valley"s or districts)
Looks like the little brother with "game" knows where his tax dollar is going. Any refund checks to look forward to?
9:46 AM
(Don Quijadas says: Yea "youngster with game" your wise beyond your years and you seem to understand the movida in play which will keep you out of the pedo and alive. Finally a breath of fresh air)
Nothing like Taxation with representation. Keep Uncle "M" happy and live!
Emiliano Zapata, come for your people! ("I would rather die fighting than to live on my knees")
Hey fellas, I would like to register my new barrio so that my taxes go to the right representative. My new gang is called the Eastside Bunnies and we are located around Belvedere Park. We do not wish to be tax free but would instead like to comply with the tax code. Can anyone on this blog help me? Where can I get the proper forms?
King Bunny
It is simple "politics." I don't take offense to your comments. It just sounds like you guys grown up on the outside looking in. You guys make it sound like only bitches pay but, everyone pays. It is easy to talk big behind a fake name and be a "Big Man" on a computer. I would love to see all you "BIG MEN" in the joint or county. I bet you guys would be more nervous then a hor in church. If you are living like such a bad ass you will get busted sooner or later and you will pay with your life. Most hustlers in my opinion are not killers in my neighborhood alot of people slang to get by. They are not in it for the reputation they treat it like a regular 9-5 (regular citizens). People like that can become "marks" unless they pay because then your benefits will kick in and the "Big Homies" will take care of your dirty work. You act like they treat you like their boys and abuse you but, it is not like that. If you want to be succeful in the game you must respect the rules the game is played by. Only dealers get taxed that I know of, you don't just get taxed just because your from the varrio and have to pay to be sponsered buy the SUR.
"If you never been to the varrio, don't ever come to the varrio, because you will never understand the varrio, so stay the fuck out the varrio"
"Youngster with Game"
The youngster has enough game to not let the trash talkers bait him. I would pay taxes if I lived down there and slung, but even as I payed taxes, I would admire the vatos who resist, putting their life on the line for something they believe in. The gente in this world who leave the biggest footprints are those who bucked the system and didn't always go with the flow. And thats what its really about que-no? leaving our mark
Fuck the joint homie! Once again not everyone pays taxes, it seems your world is not as big as you think, on the inside looking out there is alot more powerful people around only people they control are weak minded fools that get caught up in the GAME. Game recognize game, but only busters and chacha get taken advantage of.
i think the point everybody is looking over is what is really going on in the county, my homie just got out and said the southside and the blacks rock and roll just about every day, so we should drop all the whos paying and whos not and look at the big picture
WHATS THE BIG PICTURE
[The youngster has enough game to not let the trash talkers bait him]
Translation: The youngster wishes to live and giving your lunch money to the school bully allows him to function in his own neighborhood.
[I would pay taxes if I lived down there and slung]
So this generation has bought into this "pay for the priviledge of existing in my own neighborhood" theory.
[but even as I payed taxes, I would admire the vatos who resist, putting their life on the line for something they believe in]
So who's the "weak" ones then? The strong are the resistors who don't let themselves be "punked" or the homies who have to "pay protection money" in order to "sling"?
ANSWER:
[The gente in this world who leave the biggest footprints are those who bucked the system and didn't always go with the flow. And thats what its really about que-no? leaving our mark]
So, let's sum this up. If you pay your taxes, you are "protected" by the EME (like a daddy protecting his "kid"), allowed to exist in your own neighborhood (so your 'hood really belongs to an outside group); allowed to identify with the Big "13" (Wow!);
empowered with the EME stamp of approval (the Big Homie in the Sky rules!) and everybody sings the same song of: Hail to the EME! "It's our way of life"; "You outsiders don't know that we are all taken care of";
Just stand back and listen to what this means. Any neighborhood that cannot stand on it's own two feet and protect it's turf and honor without paying tribute to an outside force is a barrio with no backbone. I don't care where it is located. If EME respects you then you should respect them too --in the "game" you all play. If EME does not respect you then are they worthy of your respect?
I know you are not a bunch of whores - available for a price. Your dignity should be more important than "giving it up" in the name of protection.
So what does Youngster with Game have to say besides: "I've been there and done that"? Be honest. Do you feel like you have a choice?
Is survival worth surrendering your dignity? Or do I just don't "get it"?
El Chiludo
[It is easy to talk big behind a fake name and be a "Big Man" on a computer. I would love to see all you "BIG MEN" in the joint or county. I bet you guys would be more nervous then a hor in church]
How about a bigger challenge, dude:
I would love to see all you "BIG MEN" in the joint or county get OUT of there, go to a job interview and watch you sweat over a simple job application.
My little bro was one who would look at the devil himself (square in the eye) and not flinch. He was not afraid of knives, bullets, being outnumbered nor death itself.
But the guy suffered from "low self-esteem" and he was deathly afraid of a simple job interview. Why? He was afraid of REJECTION.
He was afraid of his tattoos and extensive criminal history being the reason for being turned down.
I could never get him over this psychological "hurdle" he was so afraid of and one day we learned that he had died of a drug overdose! He took the "easy" way out and never had to worry about failing in life.
So, my pinta friend, rather than to strive to be Leroy Brown ("baddest cat in the whole damn crowd") - a temporary "accomplishment" in life - why don't you raise the bar a little.
Try being productive, turning your back on the gangster life, making your daughter, son, mother, father, brothers or sisters proud of overcoming the street life.
The pride and self-satisfaction that you will experience cannot be described in words, my friend. You will be able to seek your infant daughter's face through the bars of her crib rather than those from the county or state prison.
These are CHOICES that we have in life and the CONSEQUENCES can range from a county jail stint to life in prison. We all reach that Fork in the Road in life and for most of us the decisions are easy; to others the decision may be more obscure. Which road did you choose?: LIFE or DEATH?
I'll Be Bawk !!
If you think the life is admirable or think some of these big homies are firme vatos, then you need to stop being so naive. You slip once, and you went from being their lil carnalito to being a name on the list. So doing someone elses dirty work to earn your stripes is down? Come on, thats just ignorant.
Whats the "Big Picture"? The big picture is really simple. Take care of you and your loveds ones, don't get caught up in the mix and raise your children the best way possible and give them the chance that we neved did. Do you really want your kids going to school in the middle of a warzone?
Remember, gangsters rarely get to live into old age.
I may not be a "Youngster with game" anymore but I'm "Oldie but goodie, like fine wine only getting better with time" Since people like quoting around here so much try this one and figure out the generational differences...
"A father bull and his son were on top of a hill over looking a bunch of cows. The son turns to his dad and says "hey pop, lets run down their and fuck one of them cows!" The father replies to his son.."No son, Lets walk down there and fuck them all".
A real man doesnt give to other men in the culo just because theres no puusy around....think about it.
another qoute:
Goldie to the crooked racist cops, " I know what your problem is, you want to drive that big fancy cadillac of mine don't you, you wish it was you having dinner with that fine little white girl i got in there huh, you even wish you looked like me, as a matter of fact you even want to be me!"
[another qoute:
Goldie to the crooked racist cops, " I know what your problem is, you want to drive that big fancy cadillac of mine don't you, you wish it was you having dinner with that fine little white girl i got in there huh, you even wish you looked like me, as a matter of fact you even want to be me!"]
Let me guess, Homes. The title of the movie was: SUPERFLY !!!!
Let me guess, Homes. The title of the movie was: SUPERFLY !!!!
Chale, TRY AGAIN
A real man doesnt give to other men in the culo just because theres no puusy around....think about it.
i thought eme members got killed if they did that
man everybody i seen or heard of that didn't pay moved away or died the only thing people say about them now were "man that was a down homie he didn't even pay the "big homie" by the way what was his name again." In the end nobody cares about how bad you were or how much you didn't give a fuck. You become nothing just a memory and nobody thinks twice, oh maybe they think about if they should pay or be like the guy who didn't pay, always running,never resting, or being by yourself forever. So for all you with nothing except your pride and dignity you probably have nothing because if you did you wouldn't give up everything over some shit that don't exist except in your head. Another thing if you don't pay it probably means you aren't big enough to be noticed if you are that big in your hood people and feinds talk and they will come knocking. At least be selling a couple ounces a week (i am not talking bud.) weed don't make no money. Alot of guys brag about not paying taxes but they probably aren't even in the street they are probably always in their house or with their old lady's they aren't hustling they are just selling. A real hustler knows the difference.
"youngster with game"
[Alot of guys brag about not paying taxes but they probably aren't even in the street they are probably always in their house or with their old lady's they aren't hustling they are just selling. A real hustler knows the difference]
That is a sad commentary, Youngster but the TRUTH is a mother fucker, isn't it? You're absolutely right, it sounds good on the Internet to talk that "I won't pay taxes" shit but in the final analysis, they pay or die. And if they don't die, they run or they "lock up" in protective custody.
When the EME catches up to you (just like all tax evaders who "fool" the IRS for a spell) they will get their piece of flesh.
Good shit, youngster. I hope you are living a productive life and hopefully not part of the madness anymore.
Later.
fall in line all those that take advice from a youngster, i have raised my hand plenty of times and have never seen tax benefits...but i have a reputation to take what i want and i dont call it taxing MENSO! anyway you reap what you sew and taxes dont gaurantee you NADA!
"A father bull and his son were on top of a hill over looking a bunch of cows. The son turns to his dad and says "hey pop, lets run down their and fuck one of them cows!" The father replies to his son.."No son, Lets walk down there and fuck them all".
"Colors", Robert Duvall to Sean Penn
God, I'm dating myself....I guess someone has to!
that is some crazy shit 4yard PURO SUR13!
Paying taxes doesn't make you a punk if your taxes go to making the surenos stronger, but like the level4yardwalker said, he's never seen the benefits.
What's up with "los aves" why is an echo parker holding the llames- no real gangsters left in their hood?
What's up with "los aves" why is an echo parker holding the llames- no real gangsters left in their hood?
They left after Pee wee left teenage brother in charge. What a joke, even if he was a killer.
whos calling the shots 4 aves right now?? I doubt an ExParker holds the llaves
Hey, hey, hey, culitos .... I thought we were talking about the Mongols paying 30 g's to get the EME to give them tax exempt status.
Jesus loves you all.
Nah Bullshit... Allah loves you!
"Hey, hey, hey, culitos .... I thought we were talking about the Mongols paying 30 g's to get the EME to give them tax exempt status."
We ran out of shit to say on that subject and talking about other shit is more interesting than nothing at all. Don't be so anal ese, jeeez!
Yea the taxes you pay buy rims for rides they dont go back into the comunitty to better the raza instead out people contiue to suffer and the hands of our own people.
It would be nice to help out the kids whose parents are in the system and support 4 the commuty.
It would be nice to see Eva Longoria butt naked in my bed too, but ya know, sometimes ya just gotta accept the realities of life!
I had Eva butt naked in my bed already, so see we can make it.
you're one in a billion... do you happen to play for the San Antonio Spurs?
She's over-rated...
And her lemonade's nowhere near good as mine...
Yeah, but her milkshake...lets not compare apples and oranges
LMAO^^^
yea and with a name like sancha...well you know
Is varrio Playboys still around? I remember those vatos being huge but haven't heard anything in along time.
big 18 street wore them out
ANYONE WHO PAYS TAXES TO ANOTHER MAN ,,IS A bitch...MARAVILLOSO..FUCK (THE EME)
yeah yeah!!RIGHT!! BUDDY!!!!
YOU ONLY SAY THAT OVER THE NET,BUT NOT IN THEIR FACE I BET!!!
if la eme is so bad ass why dont take care of there own trash,seem's everywere u go now trash is pilled all over???can it be that eme is getting weak?or to many apaches not enough indians...lol... wake up dumb ass'es,your rent collected isnt going to YOU surenos.you stupid or what!come on now,these so called eme chingones are all weak..without these bitches' beside them' holding there belt's, they couldnt hurt a fucken fly...lol..maravilla does walk the line in the pinta'all these level 1 killers just have'nt hit the 4 yards.so they dont know shit ,i myself just paroled from a 4 yard,and the power stuggle with the eme is still going on..there is to many pc yards now,all these surenos are taking these open bunks..lol..and u say that MARAVILLA is the weak one,well wake homies.u just have to take it in the ass,and admit that before u know it,the 25ER'S are going to shut you vatos down..lol..EL MARAVILLOSO...FUCK THE EME...LOL...TAX FREE...
who are the 25ers
(who are the 25ers)
25ers are a group of homosexual convicts (you have to be 25 or under to join) who were abused in prison and have decided that enough is enough!
25'ers are a prison gang,formed by eme dropouts,there all over the system and taking down all the surenos,,,el frog,,,
[25'ers are a prison gang,formed by eme dropouts,there all over the system and taking down all the surenos,,,el frog,,,]
Translation: 25'ers are prison survivors, locked up together for protection from La EME, our kind (PC'ers) are all over the system and "going down" on all surenos ...
How do you think I got the nickname "Frog". You got it, from going down too many times!!
Enough is enough!! Ya Basta !! Que viva la Raza Unida !! We will never again give cabecita to anyone !!
"[25'ers are a prison gang,formed by eme dropouts,there all over the system and taking down all the surenos,,,el frog,,,]
Translation: 25'ers are prison survivors, locked up together for protection from La EME, our kind (PC'ers) are all over the system and "going down" on all surenos ...
How do you think I got the nickname "Frog". You got it, from going down too many times!!
Enough is enough!! Ya Basta !! Que viva la Raza Unida !! We will never again give cabecita to anyone !!"
hypocrite, you just gave LA some head
WELL TO THE ONE TALKING ABOUT PLAYBOYS IF THERE STILL ALIVE WELL YES HAHAH THERE STILL VERY ACTIVE THEY STAY ON THE PICO STREET I THINK THEY EVEN SHOT SUM FOOS LAST MONTH BY THERE HOOD LIKE 3 FOOS WHERE FOUND DEAD FUNNY PART IS THAT THEY SPRAID PAINTED THEM WITH THE BUNNY LOGO
PUT THE HOMIES OUT OF THE CLUB,AND BACK TO THE STINKING STREETS.
Stop the bullshit!!!
Resolve the problem, the only reason the Eme & the Mongols are having problems, is because Dic also known as Doc is lining his pockets and stepping on toes!!
Dic has also taxed his own people!
When in the history of the Mongols has a brother ever taxed a brother.
Dic has also thrown out or made up stories about brothers to discredit them! The dic is a punk and he knows it! The Eme & the mongols are family!! and this puto has created this problem!! The mongols need to clean house and get rid of this asshole before this realationship between both side is unrepairable!! Dic claims he has made the Mongols grow, Yet they have aleast 200 members drop out!! Hey Dic when you make your money and try to run and hide your club (when they open there eyes) will catch you. If you get busted which I doubt you will because we all know you talk to the feds?? When has any Mongol ever sat and talk to the feds?? NEVER!!!
Hey Aves!!
Was Doc from the mongols ever from your barrio? He tells tall tales how when he was young and from your barrio!! He was like Zorro with a cape!! Now he thinks he's from the sopranos!! He tells his nation stories about how he used to handle busniess for your barrio,
yet everyone who knows him, know he runs, when shit hitys the fan.
Look at the casino video and you will see his brother punk ass Al and his bitch ass son ruben, doc also, they are the first to run. they were probaby studering to the exits. I know people who saw him still shitting in his pant after the fight in the casino. Any way does anybody know him when he was from the aves, if in fact this is true. I don't think the aves would let a punk like him in!!
ONE TIME AT CAMACHOS CLUB(CITY OF INDUSTRY)IT WAS BAJA SUNDAYS(THE EVENT)DIC WAS THERE WITH LIKE 40 MONGOLS!AND A MADE MAN WAS IN THERE
WITH SOME VATOS HAVING A GOOD TIME,AND DIC RAN OUY WITH HIS BODY GAURDS,SHITTING IN HIS PANTS ALL THE WHILE HE'S TELLING HIS MONGOLS TO GET AT THE MADE VATO,WELL DIC SPLIT.FUCKN SCARED OF COURSE,THE MONGOLS JUST STOOD THERE,THEN WHEN THE VATO WAS LEAVING,THEN THEY WANT TO SCREAM AND YELL,THAT SHOWS THE MONGOLS DONT WANT NONE,IT'S DIC AND THOSE LITTLE FUCKERS FROM LOWELL AND THAT FAT FUCK THAT LIVES IN HAPPY VALLEY,I KNOW ALOT OF MONGOLS,PERSONALLY!SOME DROPPED OUT SOME ARE AVOIDING IT TIL DIC AND HIS BITCHASS CREW ARE OUT,AND MANY ARE JUST TO SCARED TO MAN UP AGAINST DIC AND HIS BITCHES!
See Dic Run! Run Dic Run!
Dic will never get in the mix!He won't even let his faggit son get involved. He will let everyone else do the dirty work. Hey aves has this punk ass Doc ever part of you alot of us want to know!!
dic and his crew are a bunch of levas,they dont have any corra what so ever niether does his so called fatass armenian son,from what's been seen,all they know how to do is run just like the video of them and the hells angels, who was the first to run,their lame asses or the one of the vatos they threw out the are some chickenshit motherfuckers who cant even hold there own,let alone they are scared to fly their colors on the streets, and if they do fly they need to be with a bunch of mongols to do so tell me who are the real deal out there in the streets, them or the other club, the other club still rides strong and solo you see them every were even in the mongols backyard,with a bunch of lame assses like that leading the pack who would want to fly knowing that their leader taxes their own and wont get in the mix which he has said himself has said numerous times in his meetings, which i almost forgot he blames he is to old to do so, what a lameass motherfucker scared to fly alone.there should be hells angels in the areas other than these guys, they wont fly at bars or anywhere else it seems to me like they do need to do some in house cleaning in the top ranks put some real motherfuckers up top,but you know what it propably will never happen cause nobody will man up, oh well untill then same old story mr dic and his crew will cotinue to hold the title and ruin what was once a bad ass club.good going you bunch of fucking lames
WHO IS DICS SON? AND IS HE REALLY ARMENIAN? THE MONGOLS SHOULD GET RID OF HIM AND HIS CREW!
THAT FAT ASS THAT LIVES IN HAPPY VALLEY....ANDY! AND THE LOWELL DUMMIES AND THE OTHER FOOL FROM HAPPY VALLEY,ARE ALWAYS STARTING SHIT WITH OTHER VARRIOS,THEN WHEN THEY GET CORNERED,THEY CLAIM TO BE NOTHIN BUT SIMPLE BIKERS,AND WHEN THE VATOS LEAVE,THE SAME MONGOL FOOLS LOOK FOR A VATO THATS ALONE,AND GANG UP ON THEM,BUT THEN THEY CLAIM LOWELL OR HAPPY VALLEY,AND THEN AGAIN WHEN CONFRONTED,THEY CLAIM MONGOLS AGAIN
SO YOU COULD SEE THEIR MENTALITY,PLAIN STUPID AND CHILD LIKE!AND WASN'T DIC MAKING A MOVIE ABOUT HIMSELF AND THE MONGOLS?
To the Raza puro repecto! to dic fuck you!! You will only be in power a short time. At that time the real Mongols will ride again. You have no business leading them. You want to live like a mafosio? Start a gang! Show some heart and don't ruin a club that took 30 years to maintain. You don't ride, We don't know if it is because of your twitch or you have no balls. You want to run the Mongols like a gang and your members do not even want any part of it! Mongols have always been prideful vatos and Mongols do not retreat when they are fighting. The video in the casino has change alot of you. Do not let a punk like this bitch dic lead you any more!! The Raza will stand behind you and you can regain your status in the real world of the 1%s. Let us see you dic come out and take care of business like a real man!! Don't brainwash a bunch of young raza and make them believe you are someone. You Mongols need to bring back the older brothers and get back your kickass reputation!!
As for the Hell Angels Fuck them!! I support my raza!! I hope the big homies and the mongols can sort ther difference out. First you have to remove dic and his bitch ass sun from power!! Good luck to both of you eme & mongols you vatos are my raza!!!
Anyone out there know if doc was from the aves??
Let everyone know if he was as bad as he says or if he was a bitch like he is now!!
Any of you veteranos know him from the past?
GET RID OF DIC,LOWELL BOYS AND THOSE FUCKS IN HAPPY VALLEY AND THE REST OF HIS CREW!!!!
WHO IN THE FUCK IS SANCHA??
PROBALY SOME LEVAS OLD LADY WHO HE TELLS EVERY THING TO!!
GET YOUR PUNK ASS OLD MAN TO STOP TELLING YOU ABOUT EME & MONGOL BUSINESS. THIS PUTA NEEDS TO GET HER ASS CHECKED!!
the mongols as a whole are not being taxed!! it the bitch dic who is being taxed. for stepping on the eme's toes. The studdering twitching little punk ass knows what's going on! He'll tell his brothers that the eme wants to tax them. Hey mongols the eme is taxing him. You guys are involved because they know you have to protect him!! ASK YOURSELFS THIS!!
IS HE PROTECTING YOU? he is profitiing doing dirty business and stepping on toes and what is he giving you? Everyone knows you guys where paying high dues for months, and where did that money go?? Where are the raffle motos, who has them still? and you where made to buy tickets you didn't sell! DIC YOU WILL SEE ME SOON!!
UNDER AND ALONE, YOU AND I.
(WHO IN THE FUCK IS SANCHA??
PROBALY SOME LEVAS OLD LADY WHO HE TELLS EVERY THING TO!!
GET YOUR PUNK ASS OLD MAN TO STOP TELLING YOU ABOUT EME & MONGOL BUSINESS. THIS PUTA NEEDS TO GET HER ASS CHECKED!!)
Do you know what a "cell soldier" is? It's a protective custody (also known as PC) loud mouth who runs his mouth from his cell and sells "wolf tickets".
First of all, you don't know Sancha; if she's a lady then you need to check your mouth and take those insults elsewhere -- try your mother, bitch.
East L.A. Boy
she's still a bitch and apparently so are you and your mother!! back her up like a bitch!! punk ass!
East LA Boy,
you seem like a firme vato. Would you trip off a norteno if you seen him in your hood?
What you did for Sancha was firme. I don't think women have a place in gang business, but I wouldn't disrepect her like this vato did. Even though I think negros get a bad rap here, i will admit thinking they don't know how to treat a woman. This vato obviously thinks him and sancha are black.
"East LA Boy,
you seem like a firme vato. Would you trip off a norteno if you seen him in your hood?"
We're all from the same planta and that north-south bullshit is just that - a bullshit game. Makes some vatos feel important.
As for Cell Soldier, I think his mama kicked his ass one too many times and he's still suffering from shell shock.
As for women in "men's business", well, I think they earned the right to cut it up on the internet, at a family gathering or in the 'hood. Many neighborhood women have "put in their time" too by supporting the vatos who have caused them heartache!
Cell Soldier is like a little Chihuahua dog - puro bark. If Sancha was his sister, I'd back her too!
Sancha .... you owe me a glass of lemonade .... cabrona. (smile)
As for women in "men's business", well, I think they earned the right to cut it up on the internet, at a family gathering or in the 'hood. Many neighborhood women have "put in their time" too by supporting the vatos who have caused them heartache!
Cell Soldier is like a little Chihuahua dog - puro bark. If Sancha was his sister, I'd back her too!
Sancha .... you owe me a glass of lemonade .... cabrona. (smile)
your right about having earned their place, I didn't see it that way, but your right, they do put in alot of work.
As for Sancha and her lemonade, Im still waiting for my bourbon...she even asked what kind of warrior I was for not putting up a fight when she was flattering Tijuas. Oh well, Im no hater, hope u get your lemonade, hopefully with some vodka in it.
Dic accept the chalenge!! I am waitng for you!! My son is your son's age too!! both of us will throw down with you bitches!!
In a public place man to man ! accept this once in a life time offer if you have the balls!!! You didn't put in any work for the aves!! you little bitch, You would run anytime shit happened stop lying!! By the way if you or your son gets busted the homies are going to make you their bitch!! Looking forward to raping you!! punk ass motherfucker!!
Hey Dic, fat ass Ruben, and punk ass Al!!
Your day is coming near!! your Nation is starting to realize what the fuck you guys are doing and their starting to talk to each other. Beware when your sitting on your thrown who will flush you down!! Could be the one you least expect!! Or the one you knew would eventually catch you!!
Sleep tight butt to butt!
WELL THEN.....KONICHIWA! BITCHES!!!
Hey Mongols!! Know you know the truth! Dic has been telling you that the problem between you and th eme was dying down and he was taking care of it! You never believed he was paying did you? You heard the rumors all along but you didn't belive it! Well it is true, the world know about it and you thought that asshole was telling the truth! He is paying to save his own ass because he is doing dirty business and making money off you. Look in mirror and ask yourself! why do I allows a man who runs when shit happens to control me! I challenge anyone in your club to stand up and ask him what is going on? he paid for stepping on toes!! not because the eme wanted to tax you!! How much money has he shared with you? NOTHING! How much money did he collect taxing your own? How much did he share with you? NOTHING! Rumor has it he has shown bitches aot of money, thousands of dollars of your money in his safe to impress them. The vehicles he has, you paid for them. People around him know it! ow much did you get when he sold them? NOTHING! He lives off the hog! Yet when you guys pai those dues and you could not afford it! what id he say? Fuck you Me & my want the money!! When you guys go on runs, who pays for your room! That's right! you do! Who pays fo his? You! When your own, what does he give you? Thats right! NOTHING! Wake the FUCK UP! stop being afraid of him!! Your in danger of getting killed by people who used to be like familia for Him! He is a legend in his own mind! He braggs about what he does for you while making money off you guys!! Be men again!! The guys a bitch!
Dic is the problem!!
Not the mongols or the eme!!
Dic is stepping on toes!!
Get Rid of dick and the problem will go away!!!
What is so dificult about that!!
The Mongols nation is staring to see what he is doing!!
He will start getting paranoid and throw people out of his club!! Blame them for writing this, because he doen't know whos writing it!! However have we lied about everthing we're saying about him!! If so correct us and let us know we are wrong!! Tell us the true story!! No one can cause we are telling the truth!!
GET RID OF DIC AND HIS FAT ASS SON!! NEVER MIND HIS BROTHER AL!! AL KEEP TELLING THE BITCHES YOUR BUSINES!! SO WE CAN POST IT HERE!
DON'T FORGET THE FOOLS THAT LIVE IN HAPPY VALLEY,AND THE GUYS FROM LOWELL,THEY ARE THE ONES THAT TRY TO GANGBANG,AND THEN HIDE BEHIND THE MONGOL NAME,A NAME THAT THEY DID NOT CREATE! AND A REPUTATION THEY TRY TO RIDE ON! THEY ARE MESSING IT UP FOR THE TRUE BIKERS!
CAUSING CONFLICTS THEN HIDING BEHIND THE MONGOL NAME,MANY OF THE MONGOLS ARE COOL,AND THEY DON'T WANT ANY PART OF THE CRAP DIC AND HIS CREW ARE DOING!
Hey Dic I want to kick your ass!!
Mongols aren't you men embarrassed, you where paying taxes, when a along the bitch told you he wasn't and acting like he had the eme under control!!!
The new members, gang banger drop outs can't even follow your constitution!
Calling the eme fools and punks down in san diego, when he feels protected.
He is paying the eme for fucking up! with your money!
You are a buch of pussies for following this bitch!!
1. he told you all, he didn't run in laughlin! The video comes out and the world saw him run. however he makes you believe he's not running! Penthejos!
2. He tells you he has the eme under conrol and he's not paying! he's paying with your money!! penthejos!!
3. Tells you, he needs money for attorney's fees you pay and he doesn't pay the attorneys! has a new house you bought! penthejos!!
4. his son and brother come up with new, used vehicles you paid for! penthejos
5. he is consulting a movie about the mongols not himself and he is going to get apid well! what do you get? nothing! penthejos!!
This is not to put you down! but wake the fuck up!! are you men? or mice? He's a pussy! I want him to respond to this like a man! I still want to kick the living shit out of him and his bitch ass son! Me and my son!!
Hey Mongols;
Seems to all that by the time your "P" is done with all of you, you will all in in the big house - of course you will feel right at home - being that you all have been getting up the ass all this time, and loving it! Well boys, its getting to be time for all of you to go hide underneath your bitches skirts - being that your hoe's have more balls than all of you put together.
Next time your doorbell rings it might be the last time you open your own door..... but, hey don't worry, your hoe's will wait for your, right? and your Nation will take care of bailing you out, right? AND YOUR "P" WILL BE SITTING AT HOME LAUGHING AND MAKING MOVIE DEALS, RIGHT?
Who is "DIC"and where did he come from?
Dic is a punk! he used to be an indepent rider who would run away every time he saw the real mongols roll up where ever he was, like at a bar or club. he put together a bunch of dropout hoods and talk the mongols into letting him join the club (walked in, like the bitch he is). After a few years, and when he kissed everyones ass and partied them out! He started politicing. and got a bunch of walk ins to vote for him. When he let his national president get stabbed in front of him and didn't do anything but run, he left his P, who he was supposed to protect get stabbed by the Hells Angels in a fight. Oh!! he was quoted on national t.v as saying it was not be to smart of him to get in fight without a gun! However he had a hand gun in his pocket! He also claimed he was too old for violence and his balls shrank!!His national President at the time was at least 3-5 years older than him and tried to pull of the hells angels off one of the mongols when dic let him get stabbed. And did nothing. A mongol if front of dic picked up a chair and threw it at the angels while dic was standing behind the angels and didn't even cold cock them or anything! another prospect mongol next to dic was taking care of business but all dic could do was run. anyway while his national president was in the hospital almost dying dic talked the penthejo mongols into voting for him!! Knowing he ran they still kept him!! I can't believe that white boy down in san diego supported him. I thought mongols didn't leave their brothers to die!! Well i know true Mongols don't! The man has abused his power in the mongols club by throwing bad ass mother fuckers out!! he has all these youngsters thinking their 1% when they don't even know how to get respect or give respect! A motorcycle club has a constitution which they are governed by. What those 7 guys started 30 years ago, no longer exist. Well i'm getting digusted trying to let you know who this no good sand nigger / latino is. He's around 6'2" big lips, getting baldy bad, stutters like shit, has a twitch in his neck, that makes him look llke he is sucking dick sideways, Has a big belly where i think all the club members semen is stored, has wild fungus looking hair growing on the back of his neck,arms,back and his ass, he has the letters DIC shaved on his ass. He's arrogant and walks around thinking he is a celebrity. He has no heart, a family that thinks they are god's gift to the world,
they are all punks they don't know how to fight, they let everyone do their dirty work and the penthejos do it. Well the ones who are weak minded. When mongols handel their business these mother fucker don't even take care of their own. I am going to kick the living shit out of dic, the first opportunity i get., and when I do everyone will know it because his ass will say dic got kicked!! Just so you gt a hint who I am, A voice from the past!!!
FUCK YEAH!!! A VOICE FROM THE PAST KNOWS HIS SHIT! DIC HAS THESE FOOLS THAT COULDN'T EVEN STICK TO THEIR VARRIOS (DUE TO THEM BEING LAME)ACTING LIKE THEY ARE BIG SHIT!
THOSE FUKN LOWELL BOYS AND THEM FOOLS IN HAPPY VALLEY! HOW DARE THEY WANT TO GANGBANG,AND THEN CLAIM THEY ARE MONGOLS? MONGOLS, THE REAL! MONGOLS! WHERE IN THE FUCK ARE THEY? HOW COULD THEY LET THESE FOOLS FUCK EVERYTHING UP! I HAD RESPECT FOR THE MONGOLS,AND I KNEW MANY,AND I SAY KNEW BECAUSE THEY MADE ME MAD! THEY LET DICK AND ALL HIS LITTLE FUCKS TAKE OVER!
NOW WHEN I SEE THEM,I SEE THEM IN A DIFFERENT MANNER,AND THATS SAD,BECAUSE DIC AND HIS CREW OF PUSSIES HAVE BEEN INSTIGATING BEEF WITH CERTAIN NIEGHBORHOODS,AND THATS NOT FAIR TO THE REAL MONGOLS,OR TO THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD GET ALONG WITH THEM,THEY ONLY HANGOUT AT PLACES WHERE THEY CONTROL THEIR SURROUNDINGS.I HOPE THE MONGOLS CLEAN UP THEIR MESS,DIC,THE LOWELL BOYS AND THEM FUCKS IN HAPPEY VALLEY HAVE GOT TO GET KICKED OUT! IF NOT THE MONGOLS WILL BE NO MORE,AND THATS SAD.THE MONGOLS ARE NO MATCH UP AGAINST ALL OF THE SUR.SO I HOPE EVERYTHING TURNS OUT GOOD.
Hey Mongols 1%'ers,
The above comment shows you guys how much, people had respect for you. It shows you people acutally want you guys to get your shit together and we all know your problems. Now you guys have to get together and confront Doc!
What is it? that you guys can't see through the bullshit he has gotten you into?
Or is it? he will kick your ass? I don't think, that's the reason. He is not a fighter! History has shown you guys, everyone who gets into it with Doc, is at fault, however Doc is never wrong and everyone else is guilty!
I ask your nation to invite me, to one of your club meeting and allow me to debate with this man, with all due respect. I will tell in front of your nation, the bullshit and the lies he tells, that get you guys in trouble because he is making money off you!! If ever he reads this I can promise you! He will look down to the ground and shake a smirky laugh like it is a lie.
You Vatos are not punks! In spite of what people write here. Ask him to allow and outsider to the meeting. I know what his response will be. He will say he's not a brother. How many of your brothers have been thrown out because of Doc or Ruben? because they listen to what a chick said to them! It is only when it benefits them, they tell you I heard this from a chick and you disrepected here! Boom your prospecting or Boom your out of the club.
You guys have got to realize who is in your club and the motive as to why their there!
The greenlighters are looking for safe haven and back up. They don't act like your true brothers. They are still acting like gang bangers and hitting up vatos where are you from! This creates problem with the hommies and see you as another clika!! You guys are bikers!!!
Their are people like Doc, who scoped you out and took over. So he could make money off you!! He braggs to people, There is nothing you guys can do about it ( and Doc don't deny this cause Al you blood rother has bragged to me about it. He will tell you anything and you have to do it!! Like a puppet on a string.
Their are people who want to be real Mongols and they are in your club. Alot of people like to be 1%ers, but not with a bunch of punks hiding from their past problems from other clikas! Ask youself this question. Does Doc and his son,treat you like a biker brother should. Meaning not matter what a brother is always right!! Well I can answer this for you cause I have seen it myself!! The answer is, HELL NO!!!!
I been in that club you guys used to have in whittier. What his man is has done to your BAD ASS reputation is a nasty pathetic fukin lousey ass SHAME!!!!!
INVITE ME TO YOUR MEETING!!
I HAVE THE BALLS TO SHOW UP!!!
HEY DOC DO YOU HAVE THE BALLS TO LET ME SPEAK IN FRONT OF YOUR NATION TO EDUCATE THEM ON WHAT YOU ARE DOING TO THIS CLUB?? I WILL SHOW SOLID EVIDENCE!!
I KNOW DOC WILL COMEUP WITH SOME BULLSHIT EXCUSE. I ONLY ASK YOU ALL. I AM ONLY ONE MAN. DON'T INVITE ME AND KICK MY ASS. SHOULD DOC WANT TO DO IT, LET US GO AT IT. I AM HIS AGE. LET THE TRUTH BE TOLD.
im a biker and would join the mongols but they need to overhaul some things like stop looking like cholos and acting hard. befriend people it makes potential members,2 make sure all members have bikes and live like bikers etc..that stuff about the eme is pure crap the eme is just a bunch of unorganized dopefiends that support their own addictions by taxing and live of groupies meaning followers that are willing to listen instead of being leaders.mongols keep the club strong show them how to ride hard..
LISTEN BIKER!
IF YOU WANT TO JOIN THE MONGOLS
THEN DO SO,THE NEGATIVITY YOU SPEAK OF,ABOUT THAT OTHER GROUP,IS EXACTLY WHAT DIC AND HIS LITTLE GREENLIGHTERS SPEAK OF,THAT SAME SHIT AND MENTALLITY IS THE SAME CRAP THE MONGOLS GOT TO DISPOSE OF!
SO WHY WAIT?JOIN NOW!MONGOLS ARE BIKERS!NOT BANGERS! SO WHY COMMENT ON SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T APPLY TO YOU!YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THAT OTHER GROUP,OTHER THAN WHAT THE RATS AND DROPOUTS FROM THERE SAY!NONE OF US KNOW SHIT,SO WE SHOULDN'T SPEAK WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT,BUT THE FACTS ARE THE MONGOLS ARE LETTING CERTAIN PEOPLE TAKE OVER,THEY WANT TO ACT LIKE GANGBANGERS,SO THEN IN TURN,THE GANGBANGING RULES WOULD APPLY TO THEM,DON'T YOU THINK? SO WHEN ARE THE REAL MONGOLS GONNA STAND UP,AND CLAIM WHATS RIGHTFULLY THERES,WICH IS THEIR PROUD BROTHERHOOD,THE RESPECT THEY USE TO GIVE ANY GANGSTER FROM ANYWHERE,AND THE RESPECT THEY USE TO GET BACK!SO IF THE MONGOLS CAN'T EVEN HANDLE DIC AND HIS LOWELL BOYS AND THEM FOOLS IN HAPPEY VALLEY,WHAT MAKES ANYONE THINK THEY CAN HANDLE THE SOUTHSIDE! SURENOS! C'MON WHERES THE INTEGRITY..THE PRIDE!MONGOLS ARE BOWING DOWN TO A BUNCH OF PUNKS!I KNOW PLENTY OF MONGOLS...AND I ASK,WHAT'S GOING ON!WHY DO THE MONGOLS SEEM TO BE MORE OF A GANG,RATHER THAN A BIKER CLUB? IT'S SAD TO SEE SUCH A REPUTATION GO DOWN THE DRAIN!AND WHEN THE SHIT HITS THE FAN,DIC AND HIS CREW ARE GOING TO RUN!AS THEY DID WHEN THEY ORIGINALLY SUPPOSELY WERE GANGMEMBERS! THAT'S SUCKS! RELATIONSHIPS,HOMIES,FUN TIMES PARTYING TOGETHER..ALL DOWN THE DRAIN,OVER A BUNCH OF CRAP!AND THEN THEY BLAME ANOTHER GROUP...STUPID!
its a trip to listen to you, as if your pissed off like its a personal thing if it is handle it,you talk so much about this and that so knowledgable bla bla bla yet the facts remain dont watch the game"play"or just have a seat guy.the mongols need to filter the suckers out period right. thats all you need to say instead of being part of the problem.. politics...chismes... blabber mouth ...etc...
You people sound like you idolize the mongols nation!
Like it's a country you love with an evil dictatorship!
Should this be the case, history has shown us, most evil dictators have always lost. Time will tell, and just sit down and watch. Relax!!!
lol...you people make me laugh..
why are so many of you shit talkers anonymous.? If you are so "Bad Ass" identify yourself!! What's with this "Voice from the past" shit.? Be a so called man, that you guys claim to be.. But then again this is an internet site, so typing trash is what's expected, hiding behind a screen. LOL.. But yeah some of your comments are damn funny...Till your ready to man up , is when i can give you respect or not even that, because i respect few fear none!!!!
I don't see your name on the screen! and if I did you would probably hide behing your guys and not take care of this one on one Bicth!! so don't come here and act like your down!! We all have seen you run punk ass!! Let's throw down you and I. No one needs your respect and we all know you fear all!!
Like the vato said up top, You would try and laugh it off. That's firme!! WE know who you are!! The thing is you don't know who we are!! There is an old vato your age calling you out! Respond! We all know you don't have the bollas to handle it yourself!! Smile now! gurantee you will cry later!!
You know, most of what i have been reading here. I can say is true! We all know what's up! However what are you prepared to do? The only people who can change this fuckin dude Doc or Dic, is his own people. The rest of you are just bothered by his action. Fuck him we can tell he just responed to what everyone is saying here. Just by ready all this we can tell his day is coming, and when it does. I do not think his people will even care. Ithink they will be relieved. He sound like a selfish motherfucker who doesn't care about anybody but himself and his pockets. Rember RAZA, a coward never wins and I think this one won't either(Dic). I can see by all the statements he is not even real RAZA!!
First of all i am not Doc, second of all "bicth" is spelled "bitch", third of all, is i am not claiming to be anything on an internet site. I don't have to tell people what i am about, they should see it. So, I suggest you weak ass ex-members stop typing your shit. I mean if you guys have balls like you say you do, then handle that in the street..Dont come on here feeding bloggers propaganda!! Damn i mean how lame is that!? Am i, or anyone else you mentioned on this supposed to be scared of what you guys are typing!? I was once told "Actions speak louder than words" in that essence i got a few words for all of you, and i quote "Either Run up or Shut Up"!!!!!
It's obvious it's you Dic! These are your words!! Run! and your actions Run!! and so you know I am a member Bitch!!
I am not doc you asshole!! and your no member bitch!!
Hey Bicth! we're coming for you!!!
You not always protected. We are just waiting for the right time!!
The guy is right he is not "Doc" He's "Dic"! Get it straight! Wasn't he the one that said man up! and give your names? Twitch away punk! Look at the news reals and you look like your getting sick! What's wrong with your neck?
Keep being a bully, Your time is coming and you know it! Everything you do to people, you get paid back. You like to prey on the weak!! You started some shit with real men and now your going to pay!!
Calm down CHAVALA, no matter how many of us you kick out, without a formal hearing, without a real excuse, without just cause - we are, and will always be MONGOLS 1%'s - You, on the other hand, will never be a real MONGOL, you are simply a CHAVALA, MORE TO THE POINT, YOO ARE A COWARD - YOU RAN -and when you ran, your true colors came running with you.
I do not care what type of a man you are (NOT !!!), if you have any cojones you will come clean and show a full report of all the funds you have collected since you took over - ever heard of the IRS - they are quite interested in all those bashes you held at the club and all the monies you extorted out of your nation, all the funds you failed to use for the 'intended' purposes - Hey, Doc, if every single member of your Nation has to pay dues - where are your son's, where are yours and where are the dues from all your drug peddling bitches?
You said "Actions speak louder than words", your actions spoke VOLUMES of the type of person (BITCH) you are. You ran!!!
You also said "Either Run Up or Shut Up" - This generally means stand up and and be a MAN - you interpreted this wrong, it doe NOT mean run and hide and leave your "P" behind!!!! STUPID.
You Ran - so take your own advice and SHUT UP, CHAVALA!!!!
HEY DOC,you and your cronies can go fuck yourselves,we all know ROGER was a real man and you put him out of the club at an event he was not even at,because he called you a COWARD,why don't you give treasury reports instead of what good you have done reports?You fucks have ripped off the bro's for the past couple of years and now it is catching up to you guy's but none too soon.GOOD BYE!
im tripping on all you guys putting out all of everyones buisness out, dont you guys know dirty cloths are washed at home and not in public? cheese anyone? everyone speak louder so the feds can listen or internet investigator so they can find out who you are???
The "feds" do not need to listen, no need for "internet investigators" either, we ALL know that they just pick up the phone and call your "P" directly. He talks and talks and talks.....
When the shit hits the fan, does he really think that the feds are going to protect him. The feds are going to do to him what he has done to his entire Nation - they are going to give it to him up the ass!!! see you in the big house DOC!!!
what happened do the heated discussions, towards dic?
I heard he htrew out a few mongols over bitches. Him and his son armenian rapsody!
My buddy has been boning his new chick!
To bad he can't thorw him out!
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