"NO GUNS" FOUNDER CAUGHT WITH A GUN
In case you missed it, HECTOR MARROQUIN, the founder of a gang intervention program called NO GUNS, was arrested last week for being in possession of a firearm. As a convicted felon, he isn't allowed to have a gun. And even if he was allowed to own a gun, as head of an organization that calls itself NO GUNS, it would have looked hypocritical anyway. According to some law enforcement sources, Marroquin and his organization have long been suspected of working both sides of the street. In the interest of being fair and balanced, Hector's defenders claim that he's the victim of some kind of law enforcement vendetta to discredit him. Just prior to his arrest, Hector was tapped as an unpaid consultant to a panel of gang experts to revamp the county's largely failing gang intervention programs. The LAT ran a profile of Marroquin and his program in July of 2005. So far, the Times hasn't run anything that we could find on his arrest. Maybe we missed it.
While on the subject of guns, Sheriff Lee Baca is in the spotlight for handing out badges and concealed carry permits to a group of civilian Homeland Security "consultants" that also contributes money to the department. While no one has come right out and said this is an exchange of favors for money, it sure sounds bogus. There's been a long tradition in this state, and others, of rewarding law enforcement "supporters" with honorary titles, badges and carry permits. Rank and file coppers consider handing out "near legal looking" badges to non-sworn personnel as a slap in the face. These supporters have little or no training and they've never put in the time and sweat to become bona fide reserves. It's also a source of anger for law-abiding civilians who can't get permits because they don't have the money that grants them access to people like Baca and other top cops in a position of granting permits. As we've seen with people like Sean Penn, Robert Blake, James Caan, Howard Stern and even anti-gun Senator Dianne Feinstein, if you've got the money and the access, you too can legally defend yourself in a life-threatening situation. The rest of us, well, our skins somehow aren't as precious as those of politicians or actors.
Tuesday, March 14, 2006
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The Jura in Juarez busted ganster and "alleged" cop killer "Paul M. Astorga" along with another ex torcido of his Mr. Chavez while they were cruising in a new Chevy Suburban and both were packing numerous cuete's. They were handed over to the US Jura in El Paso.
Astorga who was released from the Pinta last year after doing 9 big ones for dealing smack and coke is a gang member and member of the prison gang "New Mexico Syndicato" who are almost one and the same as the "Sureno" and "Eme" in the New Mexico prison system, and like in Califas allies of the AB.
Astorga, who's jeffe is an old LA gangster,is an enforcer and collector for the you know who in the Albuquerque area.
At the time of the killing of Albuquerque Sheriff officer "McGrane,(blasted in the face point blank with a "Glock 10mm" after a routine traffic stop)
Astorga was on the run over a November street killing of another gangster.
A massive manhunt in New Mexico resulted in nothing but the arrest of numerous associates and family members of Astorga's including his mother,grandmother, cousins, sisters, primos and primas, and the family dog!
The killing of Officer McGrane unfortunitly resulted in a shitload of drunk driving and other traffic beefs being dropped due to Officer McGranes non appearance in court.
What cracks me up over this killing is the unwillingness of the New Mexico press and "the powers that be" to admit that they have a serious situation with street and prison gangs. All of this info I have posted was from sources other than the newspapers or radio media.
It's a typical "hide your head in the sand" and what would the "chamber of commerce" say? "It's not good publicity"!
Meanwhile all these vato loco's with "LA Dodger" blue hats, and placaso's like F-13, 18X111, Sur 13, and now the local's, "Barelas 13", "Martineztown Trece", etc,etc, are on the street.
It's a situation that's happening all over and if the Politico's and their crony's don't address it in a rational manner soon and spend some money on prevention and education instead of advertising real estate it will all look like LA incarnate.
A Te Watcho!
Hopefully this will put an end to all you "internetgangbangers",
"cyberspace bato locos", "cell warriors", and "PC's" (and I dont mean personal computers when I say that)there is a difference between northerners and SOUTHERNERS, and to make it simple its fair to say that they are way behind us when it comes to just about everything! Although I might sound biased porque SOY SURENO,
read excibit "A" this shit is real right out of the newspaper.
Man Arrested After Getaway Horse Finds a Finish Line
From the Associated Press
April, 8 2006
LIVINGSTON, Calif. — A man whose mother called police because he was acting strangely tried to make a galloping getaway on horseback but was captured after the steed gave out in the hourlong chase.
Todd Liddon Cowden, 35, of Merced remained jailed Friday in Merced County Jail in lieu of $49,100 bail.
Cowden was arrested Wednesday on suspicion of cruelty to an animal, resisting arrest and possession of less than an ounce of marijuana. He had also been sought on four outstanding warrants for drug charges and driving under the influence.
Cowden's mother called deputies to report that her son was acting strangely, said Merced County sheriff's spokesman Scott Dover.
He ran when deputies arrived, Dover said. When he was spotted hours later, he jumped on a horse and tried to gallop away.
Six deputies gave chase in patrol cars for about three miles until the horse stopped running
Thats the way they do it up north.
Now read on to see how we do it down SOUTH.
Wednesday, February 1, 2006
AP
CHP arrests ex-con after high-speed pursuit Tried to run down officers, reached 130 mph against traffic, patrolman says,
By JUSTIN BOGGS
Staff Writer
HESPERIA — California Highway Patrol arrested a wanted man driving a stolen car early Tuesday after he allegedly tried to run down officers during a freeway pursuit that reached speeds of 130 mph, officials said.
Driving in the opposite direction of freeway traffic, the man allegedly rammed his car into a CHP cruiser before throwing a rifle and a cell phone out his window, said Sgt. Kevin Eads of the CHP in Victorville.
The chase began on northbound Interstate 15 near Main Street when officers saw a car driving in excess of 90 mph, Eads said.
Officers tried to stop the car, but the driver accelerated to about 130 mph, ultimately losing control of his car just south of D Street, Eads said. The car spun around and rammed into a CHP cruiser in which two officers were riding, Eads said.
"The officers came up on him and he actually rammed them," said Eads.
The driver spun around again after allegedly trying to ram officers a second time and continued north, Eads said.
A short distance later, officers saw the man throw a rifle and a cell phone from the car, Eads said.
After exiting on Lenwood Road, the driver crashed into a big-rig truck, Eads said.
CHP officers arrested Gerrardo Godoy Moran, 29, for auto theft, being an ex-felon in possession of a gun and for possessing stolen property, Eads said.
Moran gave officers an address in Upland though he is known to live in the High Desert, Eads said. Moran, a former parolee, was wanted on multiple misdemeanor warrants and was sought after by the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Gang Task Force for suspected involvement in other local crimes, Eads said.
He was booked into West Valley Detention Center with bail set at $500,000.
Orale the proof is in the pudding.
"ay te miro chamiro"
HAHAHAHA!!!!
That shit is funny.
But nowhere did it say the cowboy from Livingston was a Northener. Sounds like he may be a Wood (Cowden)....
If I'm not mistaken those are the Sur's partners in crime.
In the report from Merced:
Cowden's mother called deputies to report that her son was acting strangely, said Merced County sheriff's spokesman Scott Dover.
Scott Dover is the son of Mr. Ben Dover and his wife Eileen Dover..
One can certainly appreciate your comparison horse vs. 130mph stolen car and the "crazy factor",but you gotta hand it to the gava caballero for sheer tenacity and then there's the Keystone Kop factoid that 6 deputies took an hr to wrangle the desperado down..
Whereas you've got your Sr. Gerrardo Moran who obviously did'nt want to get his ass shackled, and did his best to avoid it.
What is the deduction here? If you steal a horse and burn some weed you'll get around $50,000 bail in El Norte, or if you tear up Hiway 15 in the Sur and litter the roadside with cell phones and rifles you'll get slapped with a half-million $ bail?
Oh I get it. The commentor was comparing the dangerous bravado of the two hemispheres of the Golden State of Califas.. Felons North of Bakersfield do stupid crimes and felons So. of Bakersfield do smarter crimes?
I'm having trouble correlating OJ and Robert Blake, Daniel Ramirez, etc..
But then there's Juan Corona out of Sac. and Edmund Kemper from santa Cruz and the Zodiak and the Zebra Killers out of San Fran..
Barrios and bigger minds, brothers..
San Quentin Unlocked is airing on National Geographic Channel at 5:00pm PST today.
But nowhere did it say the cowboy from Livingston was a Northener. Sounds like he may be a Wood (Cowden)....
Nothing wrong with riding a horse, homie. "Ride On, cacheton"!!!
Que viva la cagada de caballo.
motherfuckin spiks think you run the city.ya'll dont even know whats about to happen.the bloods and crips are uniting and takin over cali and bgf is taking over the cdc.ya'll are going back to mexico walking or in a pine box-ya'll decide.keep your ear to the street and watch out for the 07 take over.aint no joke.i heard about this wetback blog and had to get on here and let you know what time it is.dont be fooled,we run it.holla at your boy gangsta terry
Chingado guys I was just trying to add a little bit of humor to this otherwise boring blog, since we aint got any fresh chisme lately. I guess you would rather read some more of that cyber-banging shit. I beleive Juan Corona was from Mexico and did all his killings down South, Imperial and coachella Valleys. But if you want to compare serial killers, Bianchi and Buono are from Glendale, Richie "Grenyas" Ramirez was from El Paso but hung out down town with the homies from Quinta y Loma
The skid row slasher was from "skid row" ? I guess. But anyways fuck all that pedo, we need some up to date shit.
Granted ,we DO need some current intel.. My post was'nt meant to make light of your's. Hell I enjoyed it! You made good points.. Juan Corona was a MX national, and he executed most of his contracted brazeros in and around Yuba City..Being as how I'm a 7th generation californian, the first of my line to leave the madness, settle in the Midlands,I ca'nt help but remain the vocal observer.. Sorry about that - but it still IS a free country...
And by the by: have you noticed our fine leaders and lawmakers shall remain straddling the fence on the immigration issue until after the Easter break.. Then GJ predicts they'll stall until after the elections because face it: You vatos and your Raza are a handfull!
You represent too great a voting block... Jesus, i'm beginning to sound like Tom Hayden - now there was a putz!
Quick note to gangsta terry: Spics are Puerto Ricans not Mexicans, and yo yo yo - it's spelled S-P-I-C-S...Knowin you put in more work on the pipe than on the books tho...
Yo Niggah -- I mean, brother Terry. I don't wanna go in a pine box so can you or one of your Negroid buddies direct me to the nearest Greyhound heading to Tijuana?
I hear you when you say you "run it", but I think it's more like you just run .... all the way to Moreno Valley.
Suck On, Leroy
yeah i like all that shit ya'll talkin.i got your attention but you beaners aint listening to what im puttin out there. this is my last post.sorry about the spik thing i ment beaner.its all the same though,ya heard me.holla at your boy in a hood near you,im the nigga with a 50. cal pointed at your dome piece.
Question
Does anybody have any info on any recent made EME members that where anyhting other than Mexican ...like Salvadorian or white etc etc.....
(recent ones)
Oh you-whooo??, Mr. Ganster Terry (what a cute name by the way)...
YO' MAMA SAID TO HURRY UP AND GET BACK HOME SO SHE CAN PUT ON YOUR SHOE'S AND GO TO WORK!
Regarding
Busko said...
Question
Does anybody have any info on any recent made EME members that where anyhting other than Mexican ...like Salvadorian or white etc etc.....
(recent ones)
Answer
No,
no,
and no.
Ya deja de estar chingando nos con la misma pregunta por favor! Ponte a lavar el carro o escribele a alguien pero ya deja de chingar mano, por la buena te pedimos.
Hey gangster terri, heres a couple of jokes for you:
Q. Why does a man eating lion in Africa lick his ass after he gets done eating ??
A. to get the taste of nigger out of his mouth.
Q. Why do black women carry such large purses ??
A. so they can carry there lipstick.
One more since I'm on a roll
Q. What do you call a pretty black women ??
A. An oxymoron.
Here is one for ya
Whats see through and lies in the gutter?
A nigger with the shit kicked out of him
ey,you know a good old school jam was ,are you gonna break your promise-the delfonics.man that shit is my favorite.
queonda when the fuck is there going to be a new topic on here.
Where's everybody at?I'm feeling lonely.Can somebody please stick a finger in my culo?
Orale pinche truckos, ya te voltiastes, I seen it coming, all it took was a little bit of cavula and you went out backwards, ya ni la chingas!!!
Well I guess thats how this red-bull generation does it.
Note to the fucking perverts:
The name "trukos" aint "lil trukos" ... You aint foolin nobody. Matter of fact its fairly obvious who REALLY wants a finger or two up their culo.. It's got to be you-hoo Mr Needa Fat Finger Up His Ass.... Or a slick blade in his neck!!! Dumb shit.. If you aint a nigger - you're acting like one...
OK now will you stick a couple fingers in my culo ???
well everybody must come out of the closet at some time or another.and i guess its my time.i thought i could hide it but its to dam hard.i love to have two fingers in my culo why im sucking on your meat stick.well got to go down to the stroll for a new joto,love lil truckos
(san jonero said...
your dam right its a fruit stand homeboy,thats where i was born raised and am going to stay,4 life.
like i said you want some?come get some.if your bad enough)
first off,werent u the one who started posting shit like 9fuck scrappas and fuck smell a)?seems like ur the one that wants sum.so come on down,but first wipe the cowshit off of ur shoes.
give me the time and place and ill be there,pinche joto.im going to put a saddle on my horse and be there.so when your man enough let me know
san joto .....
5 p.m. - Thursday the 13th of April - Jim's Burrito Place on Olympic and Indiana in East L.A.
Be there, bitch. Bring some Dixie Peach for your culito so it doesn't get too damaged.
If you're a man, I'll hold you to your palabras: ((give me the time and place and ill be there)). If you're a scared ho', your mierda on the net will be idle words.
Ay te miro, putillo.
All you pinheads net banging are fucking stupid. Like any of you dumbshits are ever gonna meet up. So stop with the macho internet bullshit.
Its fucking comedy. Do you realize how stupid all you pendejos sound?
well actually i was hoping instead of fighting we could maybe go to disney world or go to a movie or something.you can ride on the back of my horse,i got a two seat saddle if you do wanna ride.i wanted to go see the hills have eyes and on the scary parts you can hold me and we can snuggle.i just love eastlos vatos,your all so macho.so ill meet you there on indiana,k
Yeah you've taken what could have and has been a forum for vintage gang stories, current chisme and comical shit, Howzabout Silly Sally bad-ass-bitch on the tetherball who'd give you a squeeze on her tetas once in awhile.
Or the night she bitch-whipped Alfie Sosa in front of the whole club, who later turned out to be the Joe Pesci of La Eme and purdy much a mad-dog killer, but THAT night Sally brought his hat to him.. Or the Shoe Wars, or the brutal hits down at Palm Hall..
Granted that shit was grisly, but for me and some of the regs it made this blog what it was. A place to "get a taste"...Recall all that early pedo...
You've got reporters tappin their toes, wanting their own taste of current intel.. To your credit, you've held your muds and gave em none.. Old shit the kind I LIKE but they ca'nt use..
then you got LE, the retired ones I can handle and have to admire, Mr. "X" who "chained em and counted em" for his 8 hrs. The guy who brought Joe Morgan's obit to one of the Big Homies in the Ad-Seg and delivered his condolences.. Nice insight into convict/bull relations, huh? It showed me the mutual respect there..
Then El Maestro TJ who's brought us ,I swear, (because I read the book) damned near all of Mundo's Story "From Altar Boy To Hitman" (Google it if you want it) and will probably bring us good data on the current AB trials.. All of it professional and FREE.. He's LE, retired CDC I'm guessing, and had to have seen early on the freakin phenominal dynamics of this thing- these prison gangs..
It seems like everytime Wally posts you've been avg.ing about 300 comments before it turns into a shitfest... But that's what makes it funny.. I do'nt give a shit.
I have figured out the Lil Trukos debacle though.. He's really a 40 yr old deputy LA County Sheriff working the Net Detail waiting for some perv to arrange a "live meet" with the youngster, then he'll pop you for intent to molest and you'll bag a "chester" jacket and get some negative insight into the CDC.. Jepa!
your crazy vato.im just a young gay mexican that decided to come out of the closet on this blog.i feel so much better now.im finally free and feel like running down the p.c.h. naked.i love brown penis in my mouth.this is lil truckos and im free so who's all with me.
man whats up with the new topic wally.im thirsting for some new topics man.you see how bored these fools are on here there writing this crazy shit.i know you got someting ready to post with all the shit thats been going on lately,give us something to comment on.
First of all let me just say this .The last thing I posted on here was my name and address.This other bitch just likes my name in his mouth that's why he's using San Jonero.The only reason I put my name and address up here is to show you I don't need to hide behind some anonymous name . This mother fuckers worse , he has to hide behind some one elses name to talk his shit.And to the fool that fell for this pendejo using my plaqaso, Jim's Burrito place is in smelL.A. Why don't you meet me half way bitch let's say Fresnada or King City .
and when we meet half way,make sure to bring a picnic basket,cause i have this great area to eat lunch at.its in an open field and we can have privacy.you know just me and you.i wanted to meet half way cause all i have is a horse and im to poor to get a car.i was going to take the bus to king city.k,well gotta go feed my horse and talk on the phone to lil truckos,love ya bye
Since there are chicanos in biker gangs this maybe the place to ask.
Anyone with info on Biker club named; Carnales???
Also, what is up with Vagos now days?? did they finally patched over to 81?
I should add that some Mongols were busted up North (i beleive in Vacaville) with Meth a few months back.
con respeto.
Putos
ey,eric martinez or san jo,you stay by a school dont you?if you do then i found the right house to bust on.
big gay
Yes my house is by a school.Your a genious.Did you figure that out on your own or did you read that a couple post back?Anyway I gave you my address , I gave you directions , the school is named Earl Frost and it's practically in my backyard. Do you need to know anything else , would you like me to wait outside for you? You wanna come bust bring it puto, you can't find your way out of your neighborhood so how are you gonna get over here?I ain't no sitting duck , I got something for you too.
i sure do got something for you.its a gay midget porn movie my daddy bought me,he told me to watch and learn.i love the school thats so close to,cause i can watch all the little boys frolic and grow.so come on over you big macho vato loco.im waiting with my birthday suit.
just checking in, im back in the big LOS! for spring break, see that vato is foul typing fake shit, nothing worse that a grown ass man acting like a little girl, any way until wally get a new subject, im going down the street to visit my primo
arato.
Don Q, san jo and regulaer posters, no disrespect from me, this vato is typing fake post and just being stupid, san jo i know you in the north but you have my respaect because the way your post told me have been, serio pedo, no disrespect ese, im from LA and that where I say Im from when asked, no disrespect from me when using the snorte comments, its directed for this faggot ass, anonymous, he definately does not deserve the respect, and I think if he was locked up, he woould, definately be OFF THE YARD!!!!!!!ok now im gone
so basically what im saying is i want your dick san jo.i just love our late night phone conversations about our past expeiences and i know im only 17 but people say i act 20 sometimes so just give me a chance you big snorte vato.you can stick 3 fingers in my culo.well ,gotte go lick my premo's ass down the street. holler at you fellas later.
what does pen1 stand for?
what does pen1 stand for?
Peni is plural of penis.
Just joking .....
peni= Pulic Enemy Number 1
I THINK WE HAVE TO CHANGE THIS SITE
TO A SUBSCRIBTION ONLY SITE...IS THERE AN ADMIN IN HERE TO BAN THESE LIL KIDS?I THINK THEY ABUSED AND HURT THE THIS SITE MORE THAN ENOUGH.....OR ATLEAST DELETE THEIR COMMENTS EVERY TIME THEY POST.
HOLLENBECK RESIDENT
i dont like your comments so can you shut the fuck up to.
i dont like your comments so can you shut the fuck up to.
Hey can anyone tell me if this is true ..I just heard this from a norteno at work....He told me that his homie just got out and that there are Whitefence vatos from LOS with XIV tatooed on them..is this shit true
naw aint no white fence around this hood home boy every thing ben the same.
Too bad they didn't whack each other than it would be 2 less pesetas. But like mentioned before on this site, it dont matter if they're walk alones, rats, drop-outs or what have you they can still be treacherous.
Hollister Man Suspected of Cell Mate's Murder.
Tuesday, April 11, 2006
By Brett Rowland
Hollister - A Hollister man is the prime suspect in the homicide of a Santa Clara County Jail inmate after he was locked in a two-man cell with a possible rival gang member.
Joshua Joseph, 24, has not been charged with the murder of his 25-year-old cell mate in San Jose's main jail, but investigators with the Santa Clara County Sheriff's department said he is the only suspect.
"He was in the cell and the cell was locked," said Deputy Serg Palanov, the department's public information officer.
Joseph, a documented Norte'o gang member, was jailed on charges stemming from the 2004 shooting death of a San Jose man.
Joseph's cell mate, San Jose resident Joseph David Boos, was found beaten and unconscious in the jail's maximum-security wing Saturday afternoon. An hour later, he was pronounced dead at Valley Medical Center. Palanov said Boos's ties to the white supremacist Aryan Brotherhood group have not been confirmed.
It was unclear how long the two inmates shared the cell.
"Right now it's up to the district attorney to file charges," Palanov said. "And they aren't in any hurry because he's in custody."
Palanov said the homicide is still under investigation.
Joseph was arrested in Hollister on unrelated felony drug charges Aug. 12, 2004. The arrest came four days after Joseph allegedly shot a San Jose man on Aug. 8. During his brief stay at the San Benito County Jail, Joseph was classified as a Norte'o gang member, according to San Benito County Jail Sgt. Anthony Barnes.
Joseph's booking photos documented his gang tattoos, including one above his eye that read "Norte." Joseph claimed to have dropped out of the gang while he was in the county jail, but Barnes said he did not know if Joseph was simply using that as an excuse to get transferred to another cell. Joseph did not have any disciplinary problems while at San Benito County Jail. He was transferred to Santa Clara County Jail to face murder charges.
Norte'os and members of the Aryan Brotherhood are usually segregated in jail in order to prevent conflicts between to two groups, said San Benito County Jail Commander Edward Escamillia.
"They are rivals. It's about race and money and prison power," he said. "They are usually kept separate."
Norte'os are typically northern Hispanic and the Aryan Brotherhood is a white supremacist group, he said. Escamillia said the Brotherhood had close ties with the Mexican Mafia at one point. The Mexican Mafia is also connected with long-time Norte'o rivals the Sure'os, Escamillia said.
Santa Clara County Jail spokesperson Mark Cursi said the proper procedures were followed before the two men were housed together. Cursi said he could not comment on either man's gang affiliation because investigation into the incident was ongoing.
"They were housed together because they were deemed to be appropriate cell mates," he said. "All the protocols and procedures were followed in this case."
Although Cursi could not comment on the reasons, he said both men were in protective custody away from the general inmate population.
Palanov said detectives are investigating whether or not the two inmates were members of rival gangs and if that may have been a motive in the homicide.
"If they were rivals, that could very well be why this happened," he said. "But it could be anything." NO FUCKEN DUH !!!
Kids go play on "myspace".
"aye te miro chamiro"
DOES ANYBODY KNOW HOW MANY GANGS THE CITY OF STANTON HAS THE OTHER I WAS GOING TO WORK IN THE CITY OF CYPRESS AND RIGHT ON WESTERN AND CERRITOS SOME FUCKERS AGE 17 TO 19 HIT ME CLAIMING STANTON FLATS I NEVER HEARD OF THEM DOES ANYBODY KNOW ABOUT THIS GANG.
Wally
Can we start by deleting HOLLENBECK RESIDENT'S comments .Always the same old BLAH,BLAH,BLAH,BLAH,BLAH.
CALIFORNIA CORRECTIONAL INSTITUTION
Oct. 15, 2005 -- Numerous Hispanic and black inmates were involved in a riot during the evening meal release. Multiple 40mm rounds and pepper spray were used to stop the disturbance. Due to the number of inmates involved, a Code 3 was initiated. Six Hispanic and four black inmates were identified as participants and rehoused in Ad Seg.
CALIFORNIA INSTITUTION FOR MEN
Oct. 13, 2005 -- Staff found an inmate in a medical holding tank, bleeding. A responding officer saw another inmate trying to hide a weapon in his sock. Staff took the inmates out of the holding tank and searched them. A weapon made of Plexiglas was found on the tank floor. The sergeant confirmed it was the weapon he had seen the inmate try to hide. The inmate victim suffered a four-inch long laceration on the back of his neck.
CENTINELA STATE PRISON
Oct. 13, 2005 -- Responding staff had to use pepper spray to control a disturbance when 15 inmates started fighting in Housing Unit A-3. Approximately 30 minutes later, a second incident occurred on the Facility A yard involving seven black inmates. Staff used pepper spray, 40mm rounds, and one Mini 14 warning shot to stop the incident. Several hours later, two black inmates battered two other inmates in the gym. Pepper spray was again used to stop the fight.
CSATF
Oct. 16, 2005 -- An officer witnessed a visitor hand an inmate an unidentifiable object, which the inmate then placed down the back of his pants. The inmate, who was removed from the area and searched, was discovered to have lubricant surrounding his body cavity. As it was suspected that he secreted the object into his body cavity, the inmate was placed on body cavity surveillance. The visitor, who consented to a search, was discovered to have a large bindle wrapped in plastic in her waistband. The three-inch long bindle field-tested positive for heroin. She was booked into the Kings County Jail.
HEMAN G. STARK YOUTH CORRECTIONAL FACILITY
Oct. 15, 2005 -- A ward approached a youth correctional counselor from behind and grabbed the left side of her buttocks. She turned and pushed the ward away. A senior youth correctional counselor intervened and placed the ward in handcuffs. The ward was placed in the holding room with the help of responding staff. The injured counselor was referred to an outside medical facility for treatment.
HIGH DESERT STATE PRISON
Oct. 31, 2005 -- Two Southern Hispanic inmates attacked a third Southern Hispanic, refusing several repeated orders by staff to stop and get down. The attacking inmates did not respond to chemical agents and continued their attack on the inmate, now on the ground, kicking him in the head and upper body. An officer fired one 223 Mini 14 round as a warning prior to utilizing deadly force. This had the desired effect, and the attacking inmates assumed prone positions on the yard.
IRONWOOD STATE PRISON
Oct. 16, 2005 -- A fight broke out on the basketball court involving about 10 black inmates. When the yard alarm was activated, all inmates except the combatants got down. Responding staff used pepper spray, side-handle batons, and the 40mm launcher to stop the incident. There were numerous inmate injuries, including a broken jaw, resulting from the fight.
KERN VALLEY STATE PRISON
Oct. 16, 2005 -- An inmate battered an officer during the morning meal. When staff responded, several inmates in the dining hall began to attack responding officers. One staff member was knocked to the floor and inmates punched and kicked him. Pepper spray and tear gas were discharged and four 40mm rounds were discharged to stop the assault. One officer with several cuts on his wrist and a head wound was treated at an outside medical facility, while other injured staff received multiple bruises, bumps and scratches. During a subsequent search, staff recovered several inmate-manufactured weapons.
N.A. CHADERJIAN YOUTH CORRECTIONAL FACILITY
Oct. 29, 2005 -- A youth correctional counselor escorting a ward to his room was gassed by another ward. The YCC felt an unknown liquid hit the seat of his pants and the pant leg. A search of the ward’s room turned up a small water bottle containing an unknown liquid.
O.H. CLOSE YOUTH CORRECTIONAL FACILITY
Oct. 31, 2005 -- A group riot involved eight black wards and nine Northern Hispanic wards. Chemical agents had to be used by staff to stop the disturbance.
R.J. DONOVAN
Oct. 13, 2005 -- An inmate being counseled by a sergeant began to hit the officer in the head several times. Staff used side-handle batons and physical force to stop the attack. Four staff members were sent to an outside medical facility for treatment. The inmate was rehoused in Ad Seg.
Oct. 16, 2005 -- An inmate walked up behind the housing unit officer and kicked him on the back of the knee. As the officer turned around, the inmate punched him in the shoulder. The officer used his side-handle baton to control the inmate, who was later rehoused in Ad Seg. The injured officer was sent to an outside medical facility for evaluation of a bruised knee and shoulder.
VENTURA YOUTH CORRECTIONAL FACILITY
Oct. 31, 2005 -- A ward assaulted a YCC when she was being escorted to her room. When the handcuffs were removed, she got off her knees and swung a closed fist at the YCC, striking his upper arm and forearm as he fended off her blows.
WASCO STATE PRISON
Oct. 13, 2005 -- Two inmates became disruptive and threatened to beat the assigned housing unit officer. A lieutenant and a sergeant responded and ordered the inmates to submit to handcuffing. When they opened the door, the inmates challenged them to a fight and refused to comply with their orders. Pepper spray was used to gain compliance and a Code 1 alarm was called. One of the inmates was wearing a towel on his head that became saturated with the pepper spray. He removed the towel and threw it in the sergeant’s face, before rushing out of his cell and ramming the sergeant in the abdomen with his head. Responding staff were able to control the inmates and place them in handcuffs.
Only gangs i have ever herd in Stanton was Crow Village and big Stanton.
my humps my humps my lovely lady lumps.uh huh uh huh uh huh
Here's a pertinent custody matter that deserves your attention:
Richard Hatch is being held in protective custody apart from other inmates until his sentencing later this month on tax evasion charges.
Hatch, who won $1 million during the first season of the TV reality show, was found guilty in January of failing to pay taxes on his winnings and other income.
He was immediately taken into custody because U.S. District Court Judge Ernest Torres believed he posed a flight risk.
Hatch requested that he be put into protective custody shortly after he was detained, according to his attorney Michael Minns.
The 45-year-old is being held at a jail in Plymouth, Mass., until his sentencing on April 25.
Supervisory deputy marshal Charles Wyant said Hatch was placed in protective custody because he is a celebrity.
He explains, "The situation he's in is the best possible position for him to be in at this point in time, the safest and most secure."
Hatch faces a maximum sentence of 13 years in prison.
I ca'nt think of anything clever. You all go ahead - LMAO
Subject: May 1st will be the DAY WITHOUT LATINOS
May 1st will be the DAY WITHOUT LATINOS
IMPORTANT..PLEASE READ PEOPLE
If HR 4437 is passed: No SChoOl Or WOrk!
May 1st will be the DAY WITHOUT LATINOS
If HR 4437 is passed:
no school or work on May 1st
tell everyone you know not to attend school and tell your parents not to work the movie "A Day Without a Mexican" will become real All Latinos have to work together to make this happen
to prove to everyone that the U.S. is NOTHING without us
On May 1st don't even go into the streets! don't buy ANYTHING!
Stay at home and kick it. watch the U.S. struggle without us.
May 1st will be the day the gov't loses tons of money and realizes who really runs this country.
spread the word!
** if you are going to be involved please do it with class. don't act
stupid because not only will you make yourself look bad, but you will
make ALL OF US look bad. Represent the Latino community with pride and
honor. People will expect us to riot and go nuts but show them that we
are BETTER than their stereotype.
**May 1st will be the day without Latinos
REPOST THIS IF YOU'RE DOWN FOR YOUR PEOPLE or IF YOU AGREE WITH WHAT WE
FEEL AND BELIEVE
remember that this Law is for ALL RACES not only Latinos so pass it on to others.
Gava Joe, a la madre! are you suggesting a tax strike? Now your treading on very dangerous ground.
Tio Sam y la aguila necessito sus beans vato, como no sabe la movida esta.
But I'm with you homes, if there was a general strike sobre taxes pos quien sabe que va hacer El Papagallo!
Pero todos los viejos como yo, agarra la onda, fuck it put me in a federal joint, maybe a place like the old "Boron pinta" or maybe "Nelles" where you can scam all the buena comida, good pisto, buenas drogas, fine company of camaradas, health coverage, la buena vida, como no?
The bullshit is comming down from our so called representatives so heavy I need a hardhat for protection!
And to the vato calling for a no show, no work strike on May 1, "Traditional World Wide Labor Day", you got it ese, and I'll do you one better, I'll be in Mexico, maybe San Felipe on the Sea of Cortez, kicking it with a cold Dos Equis, eating some Mariscos and after I buy my Viagra at the Farmacia, me and the old lady are going to Partyyyyy!!!
"Please hear my plea, baby baby baby baby stick with me"!!!
Ai te mido!
if your with me ,on may 1st woop any mexican you see.it is now going to be the national mexican human pinata day.please come together and beat down any mexican you spot,chase them like the cookarachas they are. please support mexican human pinata day,its a day of comeing together and being a real american.one love
Whether your jente are with you or not, I really dont think you got the huevos to even wupp a paper mache pinata much less a "pinata" with just a little bit of cora and some of that fine mexican sangre running through there venas. But do as you please and hope you dont run into a "cucuracha" that fights back, por que te va dar en la madre!!
QUE VIVA TODOS LOS "MEXICANOS" QUE TUVIERON LA SUERTE DE ESTAR NACIDO EN ESTE LADO DE LA FRONTERA!!
what the fuck is going on? you so called ex pintos are fucking idiots, blogging each other back and forth. get it together and send down some good shit or have you fools ran out of old fart stories. if so give each other your home address and send your selves some love letters. any body out that agrees with me let yourselves been know so we can get back to the real shit. don't let a couple of old foggies ran this shit with sado ploitics and shit. lets get back to the crime thing.
Anonymous is trying to say??
old foggies ran this shit with sado ploitics and shit. lets get back to the crime thing.
I ca'nt speak to "sado ploitics" per se. Never tried that S&M myself, to each his own, sounds waaaaay too scatalogical though..
As regards the "crime thing"--------------------------
Gimme a C
Gimme a R
Gimme a I
Gimme a M
Gimme a E
WHATS THAT SPELL??
C R I M E
There you have it young vato. When you're young you get everything - just ask...
Now go out and make some memories of your own worthy of bandwidth and throwing up before you discerning afficianados, beyond all that "gadar" shit that's been flowin... respeto -GJ
May 1st will be the DAY WITHOUT LATINOS ....
Does this mean a day without border jumping? I hardly think besides a few uncut bushes, random murders, decline in drig sales, decline in arrest, and no where to get a decent taco, nobody in the US will notice.
Little colonia Katella, stantone, crow village (CVC13)
Say that Gava Ho is pretty quick on the quips huh,
such sage advice just flows outt'a this dude's golden fondio.
Hey joe besides that great mental power you have of sorting through and handing out such sanctified proverbs can you come out with some current and valid nuevas.
No, well then, Shut the Fuck Up!!
"New Shit" probably constitutes dry-snitching. Put the wilas out on the air, let all the homies (and the po-po) know what's what..Give me ALL that current nuevas because I need it to feel like I got something to talk about. Jack my jaw down on the corner at the 7/11, makin me look all current on toppa the pedo.. Got me a method/way to meet chicas now SHAZZAM jokerman...Ain nothin to it.... We be cappin o we be rappin - it do'nt much take no GPS mappin. My boys be old - youse is young - probably ALL end up in a heap of dung cuz the Reaper do'nt care what you got to say, or whether your grammar is correct today.. He do'nt take time to pick and choose - if your #'s up you'll prolly lose.. But hold some hope, and walk the dog, there's clues coming out of Wally's blog.. you do'nt get it all in a big ol lump, and I gots to agree that joe's a chump - but I'm knowin here and i'm keepin it simple, that the dude's got a neck w/nary a pimple..
Is that "current" enuf?
Crime: 'Netbangers,' Beware
Street gangs are going online to compare notes and pick fights. But the cops are right behind them.
March 13, 2006 issue - With a seasoned cop's knowing eye, Lake Worth, Fla., police agent Brian Hermanson cruised recently through some known gang hangouts. He was soon onto potential trouble: someone rolling through the neighborhood in a blue Lincoln and flashing gang signs. There was no crime—yet—but Hermanson knew to keep an eye out for the car. Not a bad bit of police work, especially for a guy who hadn't even left his desk. Hermanson gleaned the tip from a few minutes spent browsing a local gang member's personal Web page. The 15-year veteran cop used to spend most of his days on the streets, drawing a bead on gang activity by reading graffiti and chatting up members. But that changed in 2004, when his investigation into a deadly drive-by shooting stalled. Some teenagers asked if he'd checked the Internet for clues. Hermanson took their advice, and found himself transported into the little-known realm of "Netbanging." Across the nation, street gangs have taken their neighborhood feuds, colors and rituals online. Hermanson eventually found chat-room conversations that helped secure two convictions in the drive-by case. In one instance a sureno gang member named Trukos invited rival gangsters to poke fingers in his culito. Ever since, he's spent 15 to 20 hours a week scanning Web sites for clues about local gang activity and to find Trukos and his eager culo. "For a guy that's working gang shootings, this is great stuff," Hermanson tells NEWSWEEK. He also mentions how fun it would be to stick a finger in Trukos culo himself.
Like everyone else, street gangs are staking out a place on the Web. Det. Juan Colon, who trains gang investigators for the New Jersey State Police, began researching online gang activity in 2000. "But in the last three years," he says, "there's just been an explosion of this stuff." Some of the more established cliques, like L.A.'s Mid City and Clanton gangs, have professional-quality sites. Click onto Clanton's Web site and you'll find a detailed gang history, complete with photographs dating to the 1970s. "It's basically a way for everybody in the neighborhood to keep in contact," says the gang's Webmaster, who agreed to be identified only by his street name, Stalker. "We talk about old-school traditions." Mid City's Web site is run by a 30-year-old retired member who goes by Cricket. The site, he says, is nothing more than a place to showcase the "Mid City Kingdom Lifestyle"—which, if the photos there are any indication, includes a lot of macho posing, boozy hugging and throwing of the gang's hand signs. (After being contacted by news-week, Cricket, who spent some time in California's juvenile-justice system and has since earned a bachelor's degree in Web design, scrubbed the site and added legal disclaimers.) Stalker says his Web site is "not for recruiting." But intended or not, the sites have expanded gangs' reach far beyond poor, urban street corners. Now anyone with a computer can live—or pretend to live—the thug life.
Some of the gang sites are just simple, free MySpace or GeoCities blogs where people talk tough and live out their fantasies behind the safety of a screen name. Gang Web sites receive e-mails from would-be gangsters overseas who are looking to open chapters abroad. "I am ready to honour all the traditions of CLANTON gang," reads one gang chat-room post from France. "You're seeing the Internet turned into an electronic alley," says George W. Knox, who runs the National Gang Crime Research Center in Peotone, Ill.
But it's not just kids searching for vicarious thrills. Active gang members use the Web sites to communicate with each other and sometimes to pick online fights with rival gangs. What starts on the Internet can quickly spill onto the streets. Cops in Boston and Texas who broke up gang brawls in the past few years found that the altercations had been scheduled on gang Web sites.
The sites help the police in other ways. Some of them depict gang life down to the smallest details—the members' preferred tattoos, say, or how they tie their ban-dannas. "It's where I learned everything I know about gangs," says Det. Kevin Kuschel, who works on a gang unit for the Palm Beach County School District in Florida. Clicking through gang sites, he recently found an online photo of a 14-year-old gang member he had seen on the streets. In the picture, the boy was wielding an AK-47. When police searched his home, they found the assault rifle—and 14 other guns in addition to pictures of all his homeboys sticking fingers in Trukos's culo.
But the Web has also given rival gangs a new, less violent way to settle scores—flooding each other's sites with junk e-mail. Stalker says he spends hours every week deleting threatening or insulting messages from other gangs from his Web site. Not even a gangster is safe from spam or masochists like Trukos.
Lol - Now thats fuggin funny!!!!!!!!!!!1111
Wow joe i was just putting some pepper in the stew, but fuck your inner northern nigger just showed himself.
But if your gonna try and insult me at least do it in the kings english ese, That Kasnas city lingo is nothing more then south central nigger dialouge played and played i mean next you'll be telling us how that song, "Play that funky music white boy" is all about you ese.
Now i don't know anything about dry snicthing and such and i have no idea what the fuck you meant by that poem you inked, But my nigger [lol] get it together and talk real shit. You say you've been out for yrs [from the scene]now and your outt'a touch [what an understatement] So chill phil and let someone with real masa through so we all can be edified with some real nuevas "my man"
Orale gava joe the woods are gonna put your culito in the hat for spittin that shit if you dont watch yourself, i never thought you'd go out backwords like that, but hey we only met over a cold bowl of cereal. tranquellate puto!!
What happen with the AB trials?
Whos "inthehat"?
Are the riots in the county really over?
Did a "Big Homie" overdose in corcoran recently?
Whos gonna be the big winner on american idol?
Are Bradd and Angeline gonna have a baby?
Does truckos really like dedos in his culito?
Did gavacho jose compose that diddy all by himself?
Somebody please put something out there inquiring minds want to know..
Wally
Can we start by deleting HOLLENBECK RESIDENT'S comments .Always the same old BLAH,BLAH,BLAH,BLAH,BLAH.
WHAT I SAY IS MY OPINION AND REAL SHIT,SO I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT PICKING ON LIL TRUKOS LIKE YOU AND THESE OTHER "MATURE" PEOPLE,BUT IM GLAD YOUR STILL WITH THE SAME OLD SHIT...SO SAY WHAT YOU MUST,MY LAST POST TIL THERE IS REAL CONTRIBUTERS TO THIS ONCE GREAT BLOGG..
HOLLENBECK RESIDENT
Alittle something from the archives:
Who’ll Stop the Reign?The big trial has finally begun -- read last year's story on the U.S. versus the Aryan Brotherhood prison gang
By MATTHEW DUERSTEN
Thursday, February 3, 2005 - 12:00 am
Aryan Brotherhood members in an exhibit in the narcotics-trafficking trial of Michael "Big Mac" McElhiney, top right, who co-ran AB operations at the U.S. Penitentiaryat Marion, Illinois. He is currently atthe Metropolitan Detention Centerin downtown L.A., awaiting trial for conspiracy to murder AB associate Charles "Bubba" Leger.
Gregory Jessner shares roughly the same lifetime with the Aryan Brotherhood. He was 3 years old when they were founded in 1964 by Irish bikers in the exercise yard at San Quentin Maximum Security Prison, just 15 miles north of where he grew up. As a boy, he played with the children of Faye Stender, the radical defense attorney who was later paralyzed in an assassination attempt traced to the Black Guerrilla Family, another prison gang against whom, according to legend, the Aryan Brotherhood was formed to fight. Now, Jessner is preparing to face off against what is perhaps the most murderous and feared criminal gang in the country.
Photos of Aryan Brotherhood members invariably reveal the same qualities: thick bull necks, massive forearms, tattoos of fierce Vikings, Nazi lightning bolts, and a distinctive shamrock enclosed in the claws of a swastika with “666” branded on its petals. Some have knit caps pulled low over their eyes; many sport peculiar, walruslike mustaches more befitting Civil War soldiers and Old West outlaws. They have whimsical, cartoon-derived nicknames: “The Hulk,” “Bart Simpson,” “Blinky,” “Speedy,” “Tweak.” Their eyes are invariably intense and defiant, glaring right through the camera and down the throats of anyone who looks at their picture for all time.
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Greg Jessner, on the other hand, is an athletically thin man in a wonkish dark suit, crisp dress shirt and unobtrusive tie; he walks briskly with a slight limp, the result of a teenage soccer injury that to this day requires physical therapy (“I would break under torture,” he jokes). The 43-year-old Assistant U.S. Attorney, who attended a middle school staffed entirely by jazz musicians and who was inspired to become a prosecutor after hearing a speech by Ralph Nader at Berkeley, wears no watch, reads The New Yorker and abstains from eating meat. His sparsely furnished office in the old U.S. Courthouse in downtown L.A. is hung with various awards he has won in his 15 years as a federal prosecutor, during which he successfully prosecuted the Compton Coxes (a family of drug dealers), two Jewish Defense League associates for plotting to bomb the King Fahd Mosque in Culver City, and the notorious Eighteenth Street Gang that’s been terrorizing the Pico-Union area since the 1960s. On a black filing cabinet by his desk is a 1994 photo of Jessner shaking hands with Janet Reno, altered by a friend so that Jessner would not be so obviously dwarfed by the 6-foot-plus attorney general.
On February 28th, Jessner will travel south to the Santa Ana Courthouse to begin the trial of his career and one of the most important trials you’ve never heard of. His 10-count, 110-page indictment alleges that over 23 years the Aryan Brotherhood (AB) ordered 32 murders both in and out of the federal prison system (with around a 50 percent success rate). Jessner is prosecuting the gang under the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) act, which another U.S. prosecutor named Rudolph Giuliani used to take down the Gambino crime family in the 1980s. Using RICO is not a new tactic for targeting prison gangs — it’s already been used with success on the Mexican Mafia — but what makes Jessner’s approach unique is its sheer size and complexity. He is seeking the death penalty for 23 of the Aryan Brotherhood’s top leaders, the largest death-penalty indictment in the history of the American justice system.
Quiet, unassuming assistant U.S. Attorney Gregory Jessner, a vegetarian and New Yorker reader, is throwing down the largest death- penalty indictment in the history of the American justice system. Photo by Ted Soqui
The case, due to its complexity and also because all the defendants cannot be held safely in one courtroom, will encompass four or five trials spread out across seven Southern California counties over the next couple years. The first seven defendants who will make their pleas this month in Orange County face non-capital RICO charges. One, Joseph Principe, is a former guard at a federal “Supermax” prison who allegedly arranged for the gang’s leaders to meet unobserved to discuss their affairs. Manuel “Larry” Jackson, a reputed member of the Mexican Mafia, allegedly beat and stabbed another inmate to within an inch of his life for merely making disparaging comments about the AB. Cleo Roy, who at the age of 16 killed a police officer, allegedly placed a noose around the neck of an inmate named Thomas Lamb while a fellow assassin hung him from the shelves in his cell to make it look like a suicide. Lamb’s offense: He had failed to carry out a murder for the AB while on parole and then had the misfortune of landing back in jail. The AB leaders were very patient. They allegedly issued the order for Lamb’s murder at the California Institution for Men at Chino in 1982. Lamb died in the federal penitentiary at Marion, Illinois, on October 15, 1988. The Aryan Brotherhood, in jail parlance, “had all day.”
Which is Jessner’s fundamental reason for pursuing the ultimate punishment for the gang’s leaders: How exactly do you deter prisoners serving long sentences from continuing to terrorize and kill? Here were cunning, intelligent and very, very pissed-off men who had no intention of leaving prison but instead consolidated their power within it. “They were a completely new facet of crime,” notes Mark Lillienfeld of the L.A. County Sheriff’s Department Homicide Division. Lillienfeld was on the prison-gang strike force that spearheaded a prior RICO investigation into the AB for the FBI in the 1980s, an investigation that the U.S. Attorney’s office in Los Angeles ultimately declined to prosecute. Now the lead detective on the Phil Spector murder case, Lillienfeld says part of the reason was the fact that the 40 murders they investigated over a 10-year period happened within prison, meaning the victims were “unappealing.” Law enforcement even has a term for such cases: “NHI” — “No Humans Involved.”
“The victims themselves were bad men,” says Lillienfeld. “A lot of people would think, ‘Good for them, shame on them.’ But I worked on that case for three years, and it was a real eye opener. You develop compassion for them. They weren’t that different from you or me. They had families, hopes, dreams — they just happened to turn left where you or I turned right.”
That’s putting it mildly. From one rather warped perspective, the United States, which spends around $60 billion annually on its prison and jail systems, has been getting its money’s worth: The AB are the most lethal killers this country has produced outside of Delta Force. They are one of the “Big Four” of prison-born gangs in the U.S. — all of which first formed in California. Over the years they have perfected a sort of asymmetrical warfare in dealing with prison authorities. Their fearsome propensity for violence — not merely at the drop of the watch cap but before the cap even hits the ground — has made them legends within the penal system. In a 1992 study from the Federal Bureau of Prisons, the Brotherhood constituted less than one-tenth of a percent of the inmate population in the federal system — yet they were responsible for 18 percent of all its homicides. In 1999, an FBI agent said under oath that the figure was closer to 25 percent.
What’s more, the law-enforcement and penal branches of state and federal governments have built bigger and bigger prisons to house the very supercriminals who train themselves for the “posture of battle” (as Angela Davis described it) almost in direct proportion to the amount of punitive pressure placed on them by The Man. In this respect, the AB has flourished in the most regimented and isolated maximum-security prisons on Earth, including the enormous mall-like Supermaxes. In fact, the entire concept of Supermaxes was born out of violence committed by AB members. In 1983, within an eight-hour period in the dreaded federal pen at Marion, Illinois, inmates Clayton Fountain and “Terrible Tom” Silverstein butchered two correctional officers named Robert Hoffman and Merle Clutts. Hoffman was stabbed 40 times and managed to save two other officers before dying in the arms of his son, also a guard at the prison. Both Silverstein and Fountain had gotten free of their shackles by using counterfeit keys passed to them by other AB members. Thing was, they were already in Control Unit H, a supposed “prison within a prison” built especially to house them.
The Aryan Brotherhood trials arrive at a time when California is confronting the demons of its prison system — a vast labyrinth of 98 facilities, 308,400 inmates and 54,000 employees — and its reform-minded Governator is issuing tautologies along the lines of “The purpose of corrections should be to correct.” In 2004, a declaration of emergency was made to deal with the overcrowding that had been forcing jails to triple-bunk inmates in two-person cells. (It was the fifth state of emergency in eight years.) Five inmates were killed in seven months at the Men’s Central Jail in downtown Los Angeles. Racial riots flared, including violent uprisings at Folsom State Prison in June 2004 and the privately run Eagle Mountain Community Correctional Facility on October 25, 2003 (where white, black and Latino inmates had 90 minutes to hack away at one another with knives and meat cleavers stolen from the kitchen while weaponless guards waited for armed backup from nearby state-run prisons). Just a few weeks ago, on January 10, 43-year-old guard Manuel A. Gonzalez Jr. was stabbed to death by gang-affiliated inmates at Chino, the first murder of a state correctional officer since 1996. And in an eerie echo of prison abuses abroad, investigators recently uncovered the Green Wall, a purported “secret society” of rogue Salinas Valley State Prison guards who turned their oath of silence into a perversion of misconduct and intimidation and were even able to infiltrate the prison’s Investigative Services Unit.
Dismantling the AB required the cooperation of four branches of law enforcement over six years and resulted in nearly 100 search warrants executed on homes, offices and jail cells in 12 states. But it began more like an old-time Western: a gunfight at dusk on Valentine’s Day. Michael Halualani, a special agent with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms & Explosives (ATF), and two members of the L.A. County Sheriff’s now-defunct Career Criminals Division were staking out the Harbor City home of Russell Hinman, a recently paroled AB member who was wanted on an outstanding warrant. “He left and went to a service station, and we decided that it was safe to go ahead and try to arrest him,” recalls Halualani. “When two of the deputies approached him, he jumped in his van. When I tried to block him in, he rammed me, and at that point in time the shooting started.” Hinman, who produced a weapon, was shot twice by deputies; he still managed to smash past Halualani’s Explorer, hitting two other cars as he careened out onto the street. After that, it got very Cops — with Hinman leaping out of the van while it was still moving and attempting to flee on foot as his vehicle crashed into a parked car. Police dogs found him hiding underneath a tarp in a nearby backyard.
Halualani had known only tangentially about the Aryan Brotherhood before that night — essentially, from his training texts. “I thought it was going to be easier than that. He put up quite a fight, much more than I thought he was going to,” he says. “That was my first contact with them, and it kind of piqued my interest from then on.” In October 1995, under the aegis of Assistant U.S. Attorney Debra Yang, Halualani began tracking the loose affiliation of safe houses and people who provided guns and drugs to AB members. He also tailed AB members when they were released on parole, setting up surveillance, trying to catch them in the act and then nailing them, one at a time.
The ATF is not as big, bulky or well-funded as the FBI; as a result, its agents tend to be lone wolves in temperament and tactics. Like Jessner, Halualani is also from the Bay Area, but his wiry sprinter’s frame and boyish-for-39 appearance belie a reputation of being a tough and adept multitasker. “I remember reading a quote from a book on the Texas Rangers,” he says. “One Riot, One Ranger — one agent goes out by himself. We don’t mind going belly to belly with the worst of the worst.” There’s something so calm in the way he says this that it doesn’t come off as a John Wayne like boast, but simply as a fact. Nevertheless, for his security, the ATF would not allow Halualani to be photographed for this story.
Greg Jessner came onboard the investigation in 1997 after Debra Yang left to become a Superior Court judge. His first encounter with the Aryan Brotherhood had been in 1992, when he was handed a file concerning the murder of a man named Arva Lee Ray at the U.S. Penitentiary in Lompoc, California. The man eventually convicted of the murder, Glenn Richard Filkins, was one of the strongest and toughest inmates in Lompoc’s 11 units. Ray, an AB associate, had not been getting along with the leadership. Apparently, he wouldn’t share his drugs and bunked with a “girlfriend” named Leroy Crone. Although the AB trafficked in “punks” or “fuck boys” (inmates who are not homosexual but are forced to work as indentured sex slaves), homosexuality is looked down upon as a violation of one of the AB’s sacred oaths — all of which seem to end with the proviso “punishable by death.”
So Glenn Filkins was asked to step up. At the trial, Jessner was able to show that Filkins tried to kill Ray twice on the same day — first by giving him a “hotshot” (a lethal dose of heroin); then, when that didn’t work, eliciting the aid of another inmate to throttle Ray with a garrote knotted together from strips of bedsheet. Leroy Crone tried to intervene, but when Filkins threatened him, Crone backed off — and was forced to stand by and listen as they strangled his “daddy” to death. “What [Crone] saw was more than just a prison murder, it was the evolution of a prison gang,” Jessner told the court in his bracing opening statement. “Because in effect, he saw the defendant entering the AB just as another was leaving it. He saw exactly what [the AB’s] slogan says: ‘blood in, blood out.’ ”
The slogan Jessner referred to was the AB’s own Nietzschean maxim that “a brother’s a brother, till that brother dies.” It was adopted around 1967, the year they adopted their current moniker as well as its virulently racist agenda: To join the ranks of the AB, one would have to murder a black inmate; to get out, one would have to be murdered oneself. Black and Hispanic prison gangs always relied on strength in numbers; the AB made up for their lesser ranks with pure ruthlessness and brutality, bestowing selective, Mensa-like membership based on each man’s physical strength and willingness to kill on sight. (Intelligence mattered too: The leaders read Machiavelli and Nietzche and Tolkien and that old standby of self-purpose, Mein Kampf.) Charles Manson was supposedly refused membership because he wasn’t violent enough. (“[The] AB . . . want [Manson] to kill a black because black is black,” Manson’s aide-de-camp Lynette “Squeaky” Fromme complained in a 1973 letter. “He will not do this and they are against him.”) When their cell doors opened each morning, AB members were expected to hunt down and attack black inmates whether or not they were part of a gang.
By 1970, the California Department of Corrections began to notice an alarming increase in gang-related violence: 79 assaults and 11 deaths were reported in that year alone. A year later, there were 123 assaults and 19 deaths; the year after that, 186 assaults and 34 deaths. The AB was not the sole culprit behind the increases, but it did earn a reputation for its zero-tolerance policy on “disrespect” from other inmates. They fought gladiator-style, which is essentially a simple but balletic street fight magnified — like everything else in prison — tenfold. A 10-second fight in prison is an eternity. In much less time, windpipes can be severed, jugulars torn out, spinal cords pierced and livers punctured. But the AB made a science of death: Their “warriors” studied anatomy texts in prison libraries to better understand parts of the human body that could be maimed for maximum effect.
In their interviews with prisoners all over the country, Halualani and Jessner could almost smell the fear and awe the Aryan Brotherhood instilled in their fellow inmates, probably the biggest hurdle both investigators would have to face in getting people to flip for the government. “If they wanted to kill me, they could, and it would be all right [for them],” an AB associate-turned-witness testified at the Filkins trial. “All the years I was associated with them, I never heard a story, much less witnessed anybody putting their hands on an AB member.”
“Do you know why?” Jessner asked him.
“Because they are going to get wicked,” the man replied. “They will cut your bars, they will kill you right in the hallway, and everybody knows it.”
Jessner, the quiet aesthete, and Halualani, the half-Japanese, half-Hawaiian surfer, claim they never had a dispute about the tactics needed to dismantle the Brotherhood. (“Nobody believes us when we say that,” says Halualani.) Those tactics would evolve as they began to see a frightening pattern: that maybe a handful of 20 or so AB members virtually ran the much larger prison populations in the federal system.
Sometime in the early 1970s, AB leaders signed a truce with the Mexican Mafia (“La Eme”) and agreed to unite in war against La Nuestra Familia, La Eme’s sworn enemies. Around the same time, the AB discovered capitalism — or capitalist expansion — when their members began to be convicted of federal crimes and sent to federal penitentiaries. By the late 1990s, according to FBI sources and court papers, top AB leaders David Sahakian, Michael McElhiney, Barry Byron Mills and Tyler Davis Bingham allegedly had established ties in the federal system with jailed Mafia crime bosses Oreste Abbamonte, “Little Nicky” Scarfo and the “Teflon Don” himself, John Gotti, who turned twice to the AB to carry out murder contracts. “I really didn’t understand how gangs allied themselves in prison, how these alliances go outside of prison,” says Halualani. “Within the indictment, we allege [the AB] to have aligned themselves with El Rukins, a black gang from Chicago — who would’ve thought? When it comes down to it, you can throw out those other [racist] ideologies. It’s all business to them, and they make no bones about it. This is business.”
The AB borrowed the Mafia’s code of omerta (silence): Their “lie or die” oath demanded that potential witnesses perjure themselves by denying any knowledge of the existence of the Brotherhood, a tactic that kept them largely shielded from law enforcement for decades. (Interestingly, mentioning prison gangs by name is against Federal Bureau of Prisons policy.) By the time the full range of the Brotherhood threat came to the attention of the FBI in 1983, they were no longer a gang of bloodthirsty honkies still fighting the prison race wars of the ’60s. Their early-’80s summit at the California Institute for Men at Chino was to the Aryan Brotherhood what Kuala Lumpur would be to al Qaeda — their coming out party. The fact that the 14 or so hardest of the hardcore AB members were housed in Palm Hall, the three-tiered Security Housing Unit (SHU, also described as “a prison within a prison”), was no freak accident of jurisprudence. Most of them had been subpoenaed (or “writted”) to Palm Hall in January 1981 to testify as defense witnesses in the murder trials of other AB members who were representing themselves in court. Inmates did this quite frequently — in fact, they joked about how easy it was to subpoena other inmates, as you did not have to show purpose to the judge. It was on the yard at Chino that they first spoke seriously of recruiting explosives experts, chemists, jailhouse lawyers, con men, and “soldiers” who would run scams and commit assassinations outside of prison. After all, they had their pick of the toughest inmates, especially the short-timers, who would be paroled soon and could extend the Brotherhood’s reach on the streets while the lifers sat in their cells and meted out singular forms of justice.
When Halualani visited Supermax prisons like Pelican Bay, he found the AB had adapted to them with startling acuity. The $84 million Northern California gulag, built in 1989 to house “the worst of the worst” of violent offenders, has earned its 1,056-bed SHU (or “The Shoe”) a place alongside Kenya and Saddam’s Iraq in a 1996 U.N. human-rights report citing “inhuman” prison facilities around the world. Prisoners spend 23 hours a day locked in whitewashed 11-foot-by-7-and-a-half-foot concrete pods where they can’t see other prisoners or the guards watching their every move from a central observation booth. Nevertheless, during Halualani’s investigation, a local prosecutor characterized the presence of an estimated 50 AB members at Pelican Bay as a “reign of terror.” They enlisted paroled inmates to become drug dealers, gun smugglers and stickup men. They used the Law Library to pass homemade weapons — in one case, tearing out a part of the library’s steel ceiling and replacing it with an artfully rendered cardboard replica — and coded messages so complex and arcane that FBI cryptoanalysts were required to decipher them. They used a vast system of post-office boxes, untraceable money orders and “point persons” on the outside to smuggle their drugs (including methamphetamine, heroin and liquid steroids) and collect on gambling debts owed them.
Most of all, they killed lots of people in the most hideous ways possible. Since 1996, six out of eight murders of Pelican Bay inmates and two deaths on the outside — including the murders of a Sonoma County Sheriff’s Deputy and a Palm Springs drug dealer — were traced back to members of that prison’s Aryan Brotherhood faction, men who were supposedly neutralized by their surroundings. Even correctional officers at Pelican Bay were discovered collaborating with AB members to target “rapos” (rapists) and “chesters” (child molesters) with beatings and murder. One of them admitted to attempting to procure a guard’s uniform for an AB leader.
“This guy at Pelican Bay told me that he and his cellmate would exercise up to four or five hours a day,” says Jessner. “It stayed with me sort of as a vision of Hell: They are in these tiny little concrete cells; one of them is running vigorously in place while the other one’s doing ‘burpees’ — sort of like jumping jacks mixed with push-ups — for hours every day.” As a result, most AB members can break their restraints, as Jessner demonstrates by putting his wrists together. “They use one of the cuffs as leverage to break open the other cuff.” Five years ago, an AB member named Jeff Milton went berserk in a Los Angeles courtroom, breaking his cuffs and pitching a TV across the room.
Particularly troublesome were those inmates — the “associates,” “peckerwoods” and “wannabes” — who sought to court the AB’s favor. Typical is a meticulously planned rampage following weeks of racial violence in the federal pen at Marion, Illinois. Brotherhood leaders there had issued a “formal declaration of war” and used coded phone calls and messages written in invisible ink (some utilizing a subtle double alphabet invented in 1652 by the philosopher Sir Francis Bacon) to issue war directives to other AB members and associates in the federal pen at Lewisburg, Pennsylvania. On August 28, 1997, four AB assassins slipped into a cell block and fanned out across the tiers in a coordinated attack, stabbing to death two inmates and severely wounding four others. Nearly all the victims were members of the AB’s nemesis, the D.C. Blacks. The attack was brazen, committed in full view of guards, inmates and security cameras.
Jessner says the AB uses murders like these as messages to both rivals and prison authorities: They are utterly unafraid of consequences. “[Wayne] Bridgewater goes by himself into a cell filled with about three or four D.C. Black gang members — one was even a white guy,” he recalls almost admiringly. “He stabbed one to death and seriously wounded another; he came out of the cell covered in blood. It wasn’t stealthy at all, they didn’t make an attempt to hide it.” A month later, the three associates who backed up the attack were quietly rewarded with AB membership.
Then, ultimately, there were the nightmares of inmates who had forged a check or held up a liquor store and just wanted to do their time and be left alone and were systematically pulled into being punks, drug couriers or accomplices to murder. Jessner recalls Glenn Filkins’ co-defendant, Thomas Leroy Miller, a tall, longhaired and soft-spoken inmate. Miller was a bit of an artistic type; he had talents in music and did most of the ornate tattoos for AB members. What got him into prison was bank robbing, not killing. Yet he was the man who had lain across “Baby” Ray’s legs as Filkins choked him from behind.
“As Miller described it, Ray is looking him straight in the eyes as the life is draining from him,” says Jessner. “And remember, Miller had no desire to be involved in this — he’s just tapped on the shoulder by Filkins and didn’t think he could say no to the AB. I remember the courtroom being very, very silent, because Miller started crying and said something to effect that ‘I’ve done a lot of bad things in my life but I’ve never killed anybody.’ It was clear he was shaken by it.” Miller received an additional sentence of 14 years for the murder of Arva Lee Ray. Filkins got life. He was said to have hung a photograph of Ray on his cell wall and celebrated his new AB membership with prison-made liquor.
Jessner would meet Filkins again — he is one of the nine defendants in Orange County, accused, among other things, of possessing photographs of Brotherhood enemies who allegedly were about to be hit. At the time he murdered “Baby” Ray, there was no federal death-penalty statute. By the time Jessner was brought on the AB case, a new federal death-penalty statute signed by President Clinton equipped the Department of Justice with an automatic death-eligible review process. It was Jessner who suggested using RICO as a way to pursue a swift decapitation strike against the Aryan Brotherhood leadership. “I thought about it for a long time,” Jessner says. “The force of the logic kept growing on me . . . that this was what made sense against this particular group of people.”
Of the 40 original defendants, 30 are already serving long sentences within the prison system. “What do you have left?” says Jessner. “Prison is where these guys live. If people expect to live the rest of their lives in prison anyway, why not aspire to be an AB member? You’re at the top. One of them — I think it was Allen Hawley — even said, ‘It’s not a bad life.’ ”
And yet Halualani and Jessner say the crazy vein that runs through the AB has also led to their downfall. Allen “Slim” Hawley was an AB associate at Leavenworth who wound up testifying against leaders there after he could “smell the blood” — meaning he feared he was about to be killed by them. A cache of “kites” (secret prison messages passed between inmates) found in Hawley’s cell reveals he had reason to worry: One criticized him for sharing heroin he’d managed to get into the Shoe with other inmates: “You’re going to bring the beast out of me. Fuck everybody except us, you hear?” Another admonished him for failing to seal the kites correctly: “You better wise up, foolio. This ain’t time for your goofy ass behavior.”
“They have difficulty in keeping their members loyal,” says Jessner. “There are many letters we intercepted from the top leaders expressing frustration over the AB members who are supposed to ‘keep polishing the rock’ on the outside, as they say, but aren’t getting the job done.” He adds it takes a paroled AB member about six months to get “the beast” out of their system, after which they usually come to the conclusion, What the hell was I thinking?
The untold number of man-hours Jessner and Halualani have sunk into this case, with the help of many confidential informants from the AB’s own ranks, could itself be a potential minefield. “Most of your witnesses have something of concern in their background, so you have to be careful,” Jessner admits, citing the 1993 El Rukins debacle in Chicago, where most of the 30 major convictions of the gang’s leadership were tossed out due to accusations of prosecutorial misconduct. It took three trials to convict AB chief Michael “Big Mac” McElhiney, feared heroin baron of Leavenworth; the first trial resulted in a hung jury that was complicated when a female juror fell in love with the accused. Even after the final verdict, McElhiney, who acted as his own counsel, drew praise from the presiding judge: “This was a difficult case that was well tried on both sides . . . Mr. McElhiney did an excellent job of representing himself.” McElhiney further represented himself in a five-page letter to The Topeka Capital-Journal, writing, “Despite popular assertion . . . No man’s life has been lost by my hand or command.”
Meanwhile, the outcomes of recent AB-related trials have been more encouraging. In April 2003, after pleading guilty to various drug and RICO charges, five lower-level members and one associate were given sentences ranging from 7 to 14 years. Five months later, Paul “Cornfed” Schneider, a gang chieftain at Pelican Bay, drew life in prison for conspiracy in the 1995 murder of Sonoma County sheriff’s deputy Frank Trejo. A month after that, in Texas, Jerry Michael Walters (called “Iron Man” by his AB cohorts) was handed 33 years for his role in the grisly execution-style murder of 28-year-old Joe Uridales at the San Padre Island National Seashore.
In the Santa Ana trial, no one can get more than 20 years, but, says Jessner, “If we are able to get the death penalty for the leadership, I hope it would make membership in the AB a lot less attractive. Another reason I’m hopeful is, as far as I know, the AB had been slowed down much as of late; it’s been pretty quiet [since the indictments].” But “quiet” is a relative term. Things at the West Valley Detention Center in San Bernardino, where much of the AB leadership is housed, have been recently described as “extremely tense.” And in December, Michael Bruce Shepherd, an AB member who had recently pleaded guilty to a lesser RICO charge, was found hung in his cell at the Santa Ana Central Jail. It appeared to be a suicide, but his death is under grand-jury review.
After meeting Jessner, one cannot help but wonder if he is concerned for his own safety. Michael McElhiney, the man said to have ordered the first-ever murder in Leavenworth’s supposedly impenetrable “hole,” sits in a single cell at the federal Metropolitan Detention Center in downtown L.A., a block away from the prosecutor’s office. One of Jessner’s colleagues expressed interest in working on the Aryan Brotherhood case but begged off after his wife grew fearful for his safety. “I’m not all that concerned,” Jessner maintains. “I have no reason to think that they would come after me. Even if they did, there are 10,000-plus federal prosecutors. Someone would just rise to replace me.”
Mike Halualani, for his part, claims the Aryan Brotherhood cost him his hair.
Barry Byron Mills
(a.k.a. “The Baron” or “McB”)
An AB founder. Indicted for racketeering and conspiracy to commit murder — as well as actually carrying one out, the 1979 near-decapitation of inmate John Mazloff (for allegedly cheating fellow AB leader “Terrible Tom” Silverstein in a drug deal). Eligible for the death penalty.
Tyler Davis Bingham
(a.k.a. “T.D.” or “The Hulk”)
An AB leader. Accused of ordering the murders and assaults of AB enemies and dropouts. Eligible for the death penalty.
Richard Lloyd Terflinger
(a.k.a. “Bart Simpson”)
AB jailhouse lawyer. Eligible for the death penalty for conspiracy in the 1983 assassination of Temple City resident Richard “Lefty” Barnes because Barnes’ son Steven had testified against an AB member.
Ronald Boyd Slocum
(a.k.a. “Slo” or “McCool”)
Prominent member who allegedly provided recently released AB members and associates with tasks to perform outside of prison. Alleged to have participated in murders for the AB as well as narcotics trafficking. Eligible for the death penalty.
Glenn Richard Filkins
(a.k.a. “G”)
Indicted for possessing an AB “oath” and a list of purported AB enemies who were targeted for assassination. Previously sentenced to life for the garroting of fellow prisoner Arva Lee “Baby” Ray.
Joseph Principe
Former correctional officer for the U.S. Bureau of Prisons, accused of arranging meetings between AB leaders. Previously incarcerated on charges of kidnapping and assault.
Cleo Roy
(a.k.a. “Elroy” or “Cow Hampshire”)
At the age of 16, killed a police officer. While at the U.S. Penitentiary at Marion, allegedly murdered another AB member, Thomas Lamb, who had run afoul of the organization.
Mark Alan Nyquist
(a.k.a. “Big Mark” or “Mark Owen”)
A member of both the California and federal factions who allegedly was in charge of narcotics trafficking for the AB at Leavenworth.
Donald Edward Kennedy
An associate of the AB once incarcerated in the U.S. Penitentiary at Atlanta on kidnapping charges. Accused of murdering an AB member who had failed to follow the organization’s rules.
Manuel “Larry” Jackson
Reputed member of the Mexican Mafia, allegedly beat and stabbed another inmate to within an inch of his life for making disparaging comments about the AB.
Steven William Hicklin
Originally incarcerated in Colorado on charges of bank robbery. Accused of attempted murder for repeatedly stabbing inmate Jeffrey Barnett.
Christopher Overton Gibson
Accused of attempted murder for restraining inmate Jeff Barnett while Steven Hicklin stabbed him. Last year, Gibson assaulted a Sheriff’s deputy while incarcerated at the West Valley Detention Center in Rancho Cucamonga. Eligible for death penalty.
Like they say old news is better then know news.
Hollenbeck
Real contributions like yours ???
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I like your flow Homie,good shit, not bad for an old man.
Hollenbeck
Real contributions like yours ???
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I like your flow Homie,good shit, not bad for an old man.
OLD MAN??? LMAO!!!
EVERYTIME YOU SEE THOSE BOYS IN BLUE YOU MUST GET REALLY WET! LOL!!
WHEN I CRITISIZE THEM YOU SEEM TO GET EDGEY.. OR DEVELOPE A RASH PERHAPS! SO JUST CHILL AND TAKE YOUR DIET PILL AND SIP ON A COKE!!
TRY PUTTING SOME BABY POWDER BETWEEN THEM CHEEKS!!..LOL!! FATBOY! MAYBE INSTEAD OF YOU ACTING LIKE OTHER PEOPLE,YOU SHOULD
POST SOMETHING WORTH WHILE...I LIVE IN AMERICA BUDDY!! I HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY WHAT I WANT,AS WELL AS YOU DO!!...AND REMEMBER MIJO!
SI SE PUEDE!! SI SE PUEDE!!
YOU'LL BE FINE DONT WORRY...SO LEAVE THE SHA-SHA TALK ALONE HOMER!
IM SURE YOUR A MAN WITH INTELLIGENTS!...SO ACT LIKE IT!!
I DONT WANT TO GET INTO THIS LIL TRUKOSIDIS!!THAT SHIT'S CONTAGES..
LEAVE THE KID ALONE ALREADY!!
cON mUCHO rESPECTO!!!!
HOLLENBECK RESIDENT!!!
AND SOMEONE POSTED SOMETHING ABOUT THE MONGOLS...WELL THEY DIDNT WANT NONE AT THE BARBERSHOP,
ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY'RE NOT A GANG AGAIN,THEY'RE A BIKER CLUB!! LMAO!
BOO~HOO!!...LOL!
HOLLENBECK
Your weak fool I just wanted to see if you'd bite and you did.I thought you weren't responding anymore cha cha.
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THAT NETBANGING SHIT WAS FUNNY. IT HAD ME LAUGHING SO HARD TEARS RAN DOWN MY CHEEKS ANYWAYS, I SAID I WOULDNT POST UNTIL TODAY SO IM BACK, NOT THAT ANYONE GIVES A FUCK.
THE SOPRANOS WAS REALLY GOOD LAST WEEK, DID ANYONE SEE JOHNNY SAKS CRY? THAT SHIT WAS FUNNY.
TO THE HOMIE CALLING FOR MAY 1ST TO BE THE DAY WITHOUT A MEXICAN, IS THERE A NATIONAL LEADER ORGANIZING THIS AND THE MARCHES ALL OVER? IF NOT, ID LIKE TO VOLUNTEER, SERIOUSLY THOUGH, ALOT OF SMART VATOS, INCLUDING MYSELF, ARE LETTING A GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY PASS US BY. THERE IS ALOT OF POWER IN THE MILLIONS OF MEXICANOS MARCHING TOGETHER PEACEFULLY. IF SOMEONE STEPPED UP AND FOUND A WAY TO TAP INTO THE ENERGY OF THE MOVEMENT, THEY COULD DO BIG THINGS.
THIS IS JUST A THOUGHT, WHAT IF SOMEONE FOUND BACKING TO PRINT SHIRTS FOR THE MARCHERS THAT SAID TODOS UNIDOS ON THE FRONT AND HAD A BIG "NO TO GANGS, THEN LISTED THE MAJOR GANGS TEARING ON THE BACK."
IF ENOUGH PEOPLE WORE THOSE SHIRTS IT COULD PLANT A SEED FOR THE JR HIGH SCHOOL KIDS. GIVE THEM A SENSE OF COMMUNITY WITH ALL MEXICANS, TALL, SHORT, DARK, LIGHT, PELIROJA, RUBIA, NALGONA , FLACA, POOR, RICH, FROM LOS, FROM SAN JO, FROM CHI-TOWN, FROM NUEVA YORK, FROM TEJAS, FROM JALISCO, SINALOA, MICHOACAN, OAXACA, FEO, PRETTY, OLD, YOUNG, FROM SAN DIEGO, FROM NEVADA, ALL OF EM.
GAVA JOE,
YOUR RAP SONG WAS COOL. FUCK THESE FOOLS ACTING RACIST, I BET NOT ONE OF THOSE LOSERS EVEN MARCHED FOR THE MEXICANS. STAY YOUNG LOCO!
THis blog used to be a great source of information. It looks like Wally abandoned it. It has been reduced to illiterate netbangers acting like tough guys. I bet not one of these fools can scrap!
Fuck Truckos you little bitch....
Hey gava ho looks like you got yourself a fan, too bad this foolio can't read between the lines ese.
But we in the know really know who you are and what your about.
and truckos excellent play on the lil culo trukos, keep it up,
i'll bet that lil homo bastard is reeling all day long ese.
Very Weird! I sitting here net surfing, seeing if I can find anything on an old AB homeboy and if he is involved in the current pedo vs the Feds.
I get taken to a site called Brown Pride Forums and shit there is right before my eyes my "sobre nombre" and a blog that I had written some time back! Also some material I recognized as from "Tijuana Jailer" written by some clown who goes by the name of "Latino".
Hey fuck that I only blog here with Wally and if anyone is copying my material and posting on other sites without my permission he's a chickenshit, phoney, lowdown motherfucker.
I guess there's no way to protect oneself against this bullshit but I hope this cocksucker gets his one day soon
Que Desmadre! I was doing a little detective work on this "brown pride" site and still pissed off at this "Latino" clown and his sinverguensa ass when low and behold I start seeing more of "Wallys" topics.
I see "Tatti Torres killed in Supermax", I see "WHo Runs the Jails" etc;etc;etc;.
I check it out further and what I find shocks and dismays even a cynical old veterano like me!
Wallys posting his own shit and this "Latino" character and "Wally" are at each other like big "lambe culos", que "Thanks to Wally our new junior member" for the "In The Hat" materials submitted! Que la Fregada!,
Wally, say it aint so!!
DQ welcome to the real world. Look at Retired Jokers posts and his ugly face on Brown Pride. Gava Joe pulled his covers a long time back but you didn't listen.
Retired Joker or Latino whatever you call yourself, you proud dude?
You too Walley.
This was posted on brown pride by "latino" and a "wally' tells him how good it was
Originally Posted by Latino
THIS IS A LONG POST BUT YOU NEED TO READ IT!
Ending Varrio Warfare is not as simple as it sounds. Varrio Warfare in terms of Nortenos vs. Surenos is rooted in pre-chicanismo times. It is our version of Israelis vs. Palestinians, they are the same people yet they are enemies. Our varrio warfare started in San Quentin State Prison, between La Nuestra Familia(Nortenos) and La Eme(Surenos). A member of La Eme stole some shoes from a Northener, the shoes did not fit him so he sold them to another Eme member named Robot. Robot was called on the shoes by the original owner, Hector Padilla of Nuestra Familia, after a brief physical confrontation, they didn’t know it, but they threw the first two fists of our Chicano Varrio Warfare which would remain to this day after decades.
It might seem pathetic to fight for shoes, to the point where to kill one another. In prison, it is a completely different society, inmates hold onto their belongings very deeply because it is esentially all they have and can be used as cash or be traded for other things. If you don’t stand up for yourself even with something small like shoes, the rest of the prison population will take you for a punk and will abuse you themselves in the future, to the point of taking away your manhood because anything you have is esentially up for grabs because you did not fight for your property in the past.
La Eme is a much older, larger clique than the Nortenos. Back in the day everyone was in La Eme and remained a soldier for them. Most of the original Nuestra Familia members originally were born from the south, excluding one or two I believe who were born in Bakersfield. La Eme was formed to protect Chicano/Mexicano inmates in prison. They offered protection from the Blacks and Whites who were physically bigger and stronger than most Mexicanos who were known to be short and stocky for the most part. They were able to stand united against other factions like The Black Guerilla Family and Aryan Brotherhood members. La Eme started abusing its positions and started charging high “rent” or demanded valuables too often from those who they were protecting, sometimes it got out of hand and they would attack other Mexicanos and Chicanos themselves, destroying the bond of carnalismo that we all once had in the prisons.
La Nuestra Familia was then born to protect Chicanos and Mexicanos, forming an alliance where they stood united against the more powerful, larger, Eme family. The animosity built between them over the years. While the Northeners were relatively small in numbers, they stressed quality over quantity and claimed the Surenos would only attack if there were a group of them. The Nortenos built on this and attacked La Eme’s concept of war, you have to consider both La Eme and NF(Nuestra Familia) are built on Chicanos and Mexicanos. In prison, they both stress the learning of our history, the Mexica, some of them are able to speak fluently in Nahuatl and it is not unheard of to be vocal about Mexica War Chants to taunt the guards and taunt the rival group.
You have both sides calling on each other’s honor for War. Both sides kill civilians and do not keep it between the soldiers. Both sides funnel harmful drugs like crank and cocaine into the community. It might seem elementary to argue over details or may seem like outright bickering but they do make a very strong argument for why Varrio warfare continues to this day. Both sides question each other’s machismo, “balls” when it comes to warfare, Nortenos claim that Surenos won’t fight you one on one, and Surenos claim the same. When you have a clique against another, it turns personal, it is not over red or blue, the fight is engaged because of other reasons like they jumped your homie or simple carnalismo exercised within the cliques. A homie backing up another homie no matter what.
From there builds the taunts each group have each other that are definitely insulting. The Northerners are referred to as Farmeros, because argiculture land dominates Northern California. Other ridiculing names for Northerners are Nortontos, Busters, While the Surenos are city boys, they are referred to as rats, scraps. The colors are only an excuse for war and the ability to practice warfare. Examples are these two insults, the first is from a Northener point of view “The reason why scraps wear blue is because they’re wanna be cops, always snitchin’ n shit”. This one is from a Sureno point of view “The reason why you guys wear red is so they can see you at night picking your onions”.
While the insults are elementary, they do attack one’s ego, especially among young males who have defiance for conformity. When you have members on either side, they will build cliques and therein forms the bonds of brotherhood. The sense of belonging to a group where they would roll with you and defend/back you up to the end. The bonds are tighter when they are not just Sureno for example, but a clique within the Sureno faction. An example is Pecos Pero Locos, PPL. So all the Southeners within PPL will definitely back up their homies no matter what, not just against Nortenos. Once again, the colors are just cosmetics to what really does happen and how they physically engage society.
In more contemporary times, Southeners are more of a mix of recent immigrants from Mexico, 1st gens and multi-gens. Northeners are more dominated by 1st generation and multi gen Mexican Americans. The Surenos insult the Northeners for not speaking spanish fluently or if at all. They counter argue the logic as being gabacho and then go on to insult them and say that is the reason why they are in bed(allied) with the Aryan Brotherhood. The Surenos call the Northeners as being “nigger lovers” for being allied with the Black Guerilla Family. This \feed the animosity between the more Mexican American dominated(North) clique and the Newly Arrivals, who tend to join with the Surenos moreso than with Nortenos. They build this animosity between city and country boys, and recent immigrant vs citizen. So the Surenos use this to their advantage when they regularly insult just to instigate a physical match.
The Surenos do claim that Northeners have lost their Mexicanismo, that they don’t speak the “mother” tongue of Mexico that is Spanish, while Northeners tend to have a more indigenous-centric view about it. Both do, however learn the ancestor’s ways and use that when recruiting for soldiers. It largely depends what prison the inmates are in, the opinions will differ.
This Norteno vs. Sureno Varrio Warfare has been tried to be stopped by one of the more famous Eme members named Cheyenne Cadena. His cousin who was in Nuestra Familia, name is Gonzalo “Chalo” Hernandez tried to request his cousin call off the war declared by La Eme in Folsom State Prison and Chino, to kill any NF member on site. The peace was agreed upon for a short while until La Eme confused by information they received from kites and wilas, broke it the truce and stabbed some Nuestra Familia members. After that, NF declared war and stabbed Cheyenne Cadena, threw him over the pier and when his body hit the floor, Nortenos stabbed him multiple times again. This scenario might sound very similiar to the scene in “American Me” when Olmos character gets stabbed by his own clique, while the movie was based on Cheyenne, most of the facts were changed, in real life, he was stabbed by NF, in the movie he was stabbed and killed by his own.
To end or even mitigate Varrio Warfare is definitely not an easy task, ultimately, to some people they feel the change has to come from within the Norteno and Sureno cliques, and they are La Eme and Nuestra Familia who are the ultimate “shot callers”. Bangers will not listen to anyone outside of the clique as far as their lifestyle, they will exclaim
that they won’t understand. According to some “veteranos”, the change will never happen because the shot callers have to constantly fight their own younger soldiers who are out for power, even among the shot callers, for example, Norteno shot callers mostly reside in Pelican Bay, while in another prison the supreme shot caller in that prison will call for actions that is against those in Pelican Bay. So the constant struggle of power is an obstacle.
There is also the issue of honor, the older more experienced bangers “remember the days” of when war was honor and no civilians were murdered at least if they didn’t interfer with banger business. When soldiers were more loyal and trustworthy. Nowadays it is not like that, where you have your own bunkmate snitching on you or even helping carry out your assination because you were hypothetically “slipping”. There are even some veteranos who still are against the coca and crank that is distributed throughout the community by their own. So have to include greed and “money is power” when trying to understand this problem. When coke and crank were introduced in the 60s and 70s, it changed Varrio warfare forever, it was no longer a simple rivarly between cliques, but a struggle for money on drug sales.
Instiling and teaching both factions REAL “brown pride” as far our Mexicanos unidos is one way to mitigate Varrio warfare, but they already twist this information when they teach Mexica history to the inmates and few of the general population. We have to take this and show the bangers on the streets that they are twisting the information in prison. Real carnalismo is carnalismo with your people in whole, not just a clique. Both sides claim brown pride when both sides do not exercise it.
But my perspective towards this issue is;
our chicano society is so corrupt on gang activities, I view that there is no stop to this issue of south and north. a man enter the yard with no direction but to endure the lifgestyle of this nosense, for I know I've done a few terms. It's so sad, it actualy hurts my heart at this point, but it did'nt when I was younger. You have to realize your in a postion of no choice and i don't an answer. Please bear with me, I feel the grief of our people killing each other. I was told by my little brother one time that we do this cause it the indian blood we have. I find this true in some way, but I pray it would change.
I thank you for hearing me out.
IM CURIOUS, IS THE VATO WHO WAS GIVING TRUKOS HELL IN MY ABSENCE EL CHILUDO. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOUR WRITING.
So the mole thickens.. I wo'nt even respond to any of this "latino's" posts.. It's sad he took that name, but they have all the character of the posts pokemon puts up. The make me yawn. They lack any real substance, a lot of whining no answers. They're full of heresay (acceptable in no court) - "my homeboy says" or "I heard on the wire".. Second hand pedo...I know he's got a hardon for me. I could give a fat menudo fart! But I noticed the same language he used on me on a later post that was denigrating the kid trukos... He said he "deserved a beat down".. Only vato I heard say that in 6 mos has been Dr. Pokemon.. I call him Dr Pokemon and Mr. Hide... Cuz he's bookin that Anonymous tag most of the time and you can only bring him out if you call bullshit on him, then he mysteriously appears w/another snooze of a post..
As regards my attempt at rappin, you like you don' like - it do'nt make me no never mind.. But remember your Lao Tzu - know your enemy.... Also keep your friends close and your enemies closer - Don Vito Corleone GF#1...
It's only rhyming folks, simple shit. Listen if a moron like 50 or snoop pimpy can make a rhyme gava joe can do it too...
But you do'nt like my shit Pokemon. You claim i'm soundin like one of your homies, some norteno negroid? Fuck off chingaso! I offered you an olive branch months ago .. Now it's dos palos up you ass vato! You like all that "up the ass, butter the nutz,tea baggin", all that pedo you put on the lil LA transplant lookin for some counsel.. You suck hind tit, fuckin plagiarist (steals written materials)mofo...
PS. Happy Easter - A time of redemption and resurrection, and conejos - lol
I DIDNT BITE SHIT...LOL!!! AND WHAT WOULD YOU GET OUT OF THAT?..
YOU DO LACK INTELLIGENTS.LMAO!!!
SO GO HEAD AND ANSWER YOUR OWN QUESTIONS..LAUGHING MY ASS OFF!!
PEOPLE GETTING HUEVOS ON THE NET?
DEAR WALLY,
WHERE DID YOU GO? I KNOW YOU FEDS RAIDED PLENTY OF PEOPLE ALREADY,AND I THOUGHT YOU'D BE BACK BY NOW,BUT I GUEES YOU ON SURVELIANCE DETAIL ABOUT NOW,OILING
UP THAT GLOCK AND PRACTICING YOUR TACTICS,OR WAS THAT YOU IN ITALY HOLDING THE DON OF DONS,IN THE LIL TOWN OF CORLEON...LOL!! WELL COME BACK SOON AND POST SOME GOOD SHIT,
CAUSE THIS SITE IS SUCKING MORE WITH THESE A HOLES THAT DONT HAVE A CLUE ABOUT THE CALLES,THEY LIKE TO PLAY CYBER TAG,SO IF T.J. OR R.JOKER OR WHOM EVER CAN POST SOMETHING GOOD THAT WE COULD ARGUE ABOUT THAT WOULD BE FINE!!
wITH nOTHING tO pROVE!!
HOLLENBECK RESIDENT
Greetings,
I recently stood curb-side during a large demonstration...by our true working class, here in the US.
Naturally, I rushed up to the excitement (as a former one-third timer in CDC) and found myself being overwelmed by the crowd. (again) This time it was not on the yard, with all the party favorites (gas & guns), but rather by a wave of Mexican workers and their families. There were thousands and thousands of people in the street, yet not one hint of violence nor intoxication. No disrespect, nothing except hard working people and their families...from babies to people in wheelchairs. I yelled into my son's ear (an adult himself) that I've seen thousands of felons before, but they never looked like this. These people...felons? Come on now. Instead numerous marchers tried to talk us into joining them.
Back to CDC, years of being there and all that came with that, I agree with the earlier writter that commented that race is not the motivation of our prison gangs, but it is the quest for power. Money is part of it, but only the big guys enjoy most of that benefit...because of their power. Sure, like businessmen, they re-invest into the company. The retirement benefits are all the same though. The outsider would be shocked at who tells on who, and how often. Retirement is death. Death to self, or to their relationship with the members they call family. So many times, a man (I used the term intentionally) would step up and let me know what time it was, so I could do my job. These men would only do so, if I would not put it on paper, as they still are the upper rankings in their groups. A couple of times I had the same Member save my life. Ofcourse, I suspected that I was being played. Sometimes I was, streight up. But I did it too. It was the way it was, Ok by both sides. He knew I was doing my job, and I would tell him that I intercepted another kite. One more and I hade to turn in the Info for his indetermenent SHU term, for being an EME. Ha, I sat on dozens before I stepped up and finally did my job. He was OK with it, and insisted that I roll his trash up and not some 3 year wonder. Years later in SHU, I saw him on the med-line. Man was dying from the CDC-crud (hep). The man, after I took all his restraints and freked out the other co's, shook my mit and we sat for a long talk about...things. After he left, I wondered if I did him right or not. I suppose I did, he thought so too. Unlike many, the life of SHU did not beat the gang-life out of him...just the life.
Terf...(AB)said to me once that CDC thought by putting a man in a cage (SHU/Bedrock)that he would submit and conform. Instead, the true criminal just adjusts to his kennal, focusing beyond the gaze of the wall.
Well, some adjust and many do not. Eight hours a day of hell is enough. I would not recommend 24/7 to anyone. I've seen the unity of the demonstrators, and the divisions that manifest in gang-life. Blood is all the same color, and flows in the same direction..no matter who we are. Yes, mine too.
Yet, we have no problem killing and destroying. It is too easy to get tipped-up, just to die to get out. (or retire!)
X
In ref to my last rant,
yes, I do know both sides of it. A childhood friend and I grew up, best of...doing about everything we should not have done. I got by with it, he never did. We ended up on opposite sides of the fence. He was 3rd generation, same gang...deep inside. Me, just a runny nose punk with a zest for adventure. Him too, but it landed him in all the original CDC pens. My wife grew up with his. My wife and I were ARE his kids Godparents...him, a member.
I became a guard, and as I was scheduled to work at his pen...he rolled & dropped out of the M.
Paying the price with his life, by one of his own family members.
(1 to get 1)
So, sure I'm an old one third timer, but I have seen both sides all too close. And still, I think it is messed up that too many people walk the fence untill they fall off...usually a fall hurts. 'Good clue you fell on the wrong side of the fence!
I'm not preaching right and wrong, we all know the diff. It's all a choice is what I'm getting at ... I seldom disrespected someone for their up-bringing. (hey, i'm being honest here)I know IT...and chose against IT. No, it is not that simple, but neither is life under the gun, with only cement underfoot and wire overhead...'hoping some no-good like me will mentor your offspring when your doing "yours" for the big guys...that don't even know your kids names. Sound bitter? Yeah, I guess, but my scars are there to show I did "mine". Yes, all scared up too. I would not give a single scar up either. Right is right. Kids deserve it...so do friends.
X
Hey, Don Quixote .... Just checked out that web site you were talking about .... your right. They quoted a lot of shit from In The Hat! I recognized one of TJ's viajes on their site and it looks like somebody just plucked from this site and repeated it on theirs word for word! I guess they are hurting for conversation, que not?
Checking out this "brown pride" website bullshit by "Latino" aka envious, no meaningful life experience, norteno preachy ass, polluting real history, plagiarizer, propped up quasi-gangster, suburbanite wannabe, can I hang around you dangerous types, lowdown chickenshit, huevon, falso,
"I wish I was from an LA varrio but I'll steal history and ideas from you vatos and transform myself into the third rate NF netbanger that I am" poopbutt,
"gee what a hero I am to a bunch of impressionable 14 year old girls named dreamer, or sad girl,
What a man! puto!
Wally you better respond to this phony "Latino" cause I truly can't believe you would have anything to do with this Joker and his infantile ego driven chester ass self.
And he's stealing your thunder like a thief in the night and posting resonses from you claiming your all down with it.
de voladas, por favor!
Anonymus que? I'm posting and at least I'm stand up about it Joker!
don quixote
Heads up to you In The Hat fans ... This was a response sent to our "stealth" vato who calls himself Latino:
REPLY TO LATINO'S COMMENT:
Your overall post seems well researched EXCEPT for the part where you attempt to relate the "quantity vs. quality" in explaining the North vs. South.
Either someone sold you a bill of goods and you are simply misinformed or you are intentionally attempting to instill "someone" with some encouragement with false propoganda. I hope it's the first because the truth is already well established. Now I'll explain the comment I take issue with.
In the beginning years, when the EME was flexing its muscles in the California Prison System, NO ONE was exempt from their exploitation - not So. Cal gang members, not Nor Cal gang members, not blacks nor whites. The EME was ALWAYS vastly outnumbered by the mainline prison Hispanic population. The reason L.A. gang members suffered less than their Northern counterparts is because most of the EME dudes had home boys that they chose to give a "pass" to. Therefore, Northern Cal Chicanos suffered more.
One day, about 11 years after the EME had formed, Northern Cal Latinos decided to rebel and they formed a prison gang called La Nuestra Familia (NF). During the years of a relative "cease fire", the NF recrutied almost anybody that was from Northern Cal who wanted in. It was the NF, not the EME, who believed that overwhelming numbers would be to their benefit. The EME, on the other hand, recruited the "cream of the crop" with an insistence on the quality that you erroneously communicated earlier about the NF.
It was the NF who walked the yard in packs, not the EME. It was the NF who saw "ghosts" whenever they saw a "Sureno" walking past their protective herds. Why? Because, understandably, they weren't sure which of these guys were EME and which were not. If you listened to them (NFers) there were 1,000 EME walking the yard and "they" were the minority. In reality, there were never more than a dozen made EME members walking any yard (except Folsom Prison) at any one time! The NF simply mistook Surenos for EME members.
There are many accounts (in detail) about this early prison gang history on www.inthehat.blogspot.com and I recommend you read the comments of Tijuana Jailer. I believe he is a former prison gang expert who worked both as a California Correctional Officer and later as a prison gang expert. A book I might recommend as well is "Mexican Mafia: From Altar Boy to Hit Man" by Ramon Mendoza. It's a very detailed account of the earlier years of the EME history and it relates much of the NF, AB and BGF beginnings as well. From reading your comments, it appears that you have already had some exposure to this man's writings.
lavet
Latino's response to lavet:
(thanks lavet for your informative reply.. ill check out that website)
lol .. like he hasn't checked out this website already. ;-)
I've got your back, TJ and DQ
Stealth II
Retired C.O. Mr. "X" had a couple of good posts.Thanks for your input, and keep it up.. There's some good material wisdom comes out of a career, and the time to mull it over after the fact.
Thanks
hey OC Half breed thanks for posting that article on the AB trial.Its a nice change from all the stupid shit lately. Keep us up to date.
And thank you Mr Hide..
Tee, hee, hee tee, hee, hee shes mad,
hey gava ho be cool ese, i'm not ragging you persae ese,
just your choice of mutts.
Frist of all i'm not this fool latino whos trying to jump on wallys ship, and as a wally blogger i would never make the mistakes the guy made on his shit after all i read mundos account on the eme. Hey cut this punk fool loose [trukos] he's a piece of shit and i belive you know it,
ask around its the right thing to do.
Do it and i'm off your back, and as a former pinto [so you say]you should know better. As far as your attempt at rapping get off that nigger shit, there's nothing there for you so just stop.
You ARE twisted, man. Good luck with your recovery. First step is to try to keep it real.
Pascua Feliz
Hey I think I recognize this punk's voice and style from the old days in the pinta.
He is a farmero from princess city and in the joint they called him queen bee cause he took care of all his "drones" orally.
Don't no one worry though cause when you mate a ranch animal with a human (his madre) the offspring is obnoxious but harmless. The only time he supposedly got violent is when they threw his cachetes out of atascadero without his garrote and he has never got over it. You now are seeing the results of this cruel separation.
Orale Don Q
This kid obviously has an unhealthy obsession with the cachetes. Personally I'm thinking he's the result of the padre (human) breeding a bushy-tailed sheep. that would explain how he says "baaaaaaaaaarrio".. Este un otro jamon pascua. Es mismo con bromista refrito..
Disclaimer: Gava J shall not be responsible for bad Spanglish
Whewwwwwho, man you two vatos must have been some ture short timers [a year or two]in the pen with a raps like that.
Cause no way did you fools do any serious tiempo, or talk or hang with anyone of real merit.
Maybe you two where ture choletas de mayate because your shit here really smells like lambe.
Im saying your all over me for dissing this undercover perco trukos, you know about talking dirt about his moms and shit.
Then you turn around and talk masa about my jefitos, bad show of pinto edict, que no.
But like i said you must be some of those no counts in the joint world, huh.
Hey tell you what keep your poo poo to yourselves and come clean or fuck it lets battle down here on the blog.
Wally sure as shit has not done any current investigation into any new shit what else we gots hombres.
So i'll await your lame attempt to insult me and or my jefes weakos.
oh and as always have yourselves a good and pleasent holiday.
~MEXICO~
HA! HA!
ESTOY USANDO EL INTERNET!!!1!!!
Anonymous said...
"Wow joe i was just putting some pepper in the stew, but fuck your inner northern nigger just showed himself."
If Gava Joe is showing his, 'inner northern nigger', by merely rhyming, then that would mean that Lil' Rob and MC Boulevard have been showing their, 'inner northern niggers', for over a decade now, right?
If Gava Joe is showing his, 'inner northern nigger', by merely rhyming, then that would mean that Lil' Rob and MC Boulevard have been showing their, 'inner northern niggers', for over a decade now, right?
And so is caponee,lil menace, niteowl,akwid, and all the other red-bull generation RAZA that are running around listening to mayate music, wearing there clothes hanging off there asses. We are the last of a dieing generation. It wont be long when these youngsters are breaking bread and smoking with the tintos.
A fresh news story for you vatos malias for a fileraso.
Cons say they made Teflon Don crawl
BY TORI RICHARDS in Santa Ana, Calif.,
and BRIAN KATES in New York
DAILY NEWS WRITERS
Mob don John Gotti struck a deal with the murderous Aryan Brotherhood to protect him behind bars, but when he reneged, they forced him to "crawl back," a gang snitch told the feds.
Gotti ultimately wound up paying "large sums of money" to the Brotherhood to ensure his safety in the federal prison at Marion, Ill., according to one of several key prosecution documents in a case against the group that was obtained by the Daily News.
"Wiseguys on the street like the Teflon Don and all that stuff - it doesn't equate in prison," Aryan Brotherhood turncoat Kevin Roach told investigators in 2001. "They have to rely on people like the Aryan Brotherhood and the [Mexican Mafia] to protect them ... in prison."
Roach, the star witness in the massive federal case against the white supremacist prison gang, testified last week that reputed Brotherhood chief Barry (the Baron) Mills provided Gotti with a bodyguard.
In exchange, the Gambino crime boss agreed to arrange for a high-powered attorney to represent Mills in his appeal on a murder conviction in Atlanta, Roach said.
In 1994, after Gotti apparently failed to provide the attorney, Mills sent out a "kite" - or secret interprison message - saying he "wanted all of the AB to know that they were retracting their protection of Gotti," according to an FBI report.
"Mills wanted Gotti to learn a lesson. Sooner or later, Gotti would be assaulted and would have to crawl back to the AB," the report said.
In 1996, inmate Walter Johnson, a convicted bank robber, attacked Gotti in the exercise yard, punching him repeatedly in the head. Gotti "didn't throw any punches in return and only appeared to be defending himself," according to a prison report.
Roach told investigators that "Mills laughed and said he knew Gotti was going to end up having to crawl back to us," a Bureau of Prisons report reveals.
Gotti started paying "large sums of money to the AB on a yearly basis," according to federal documents.
Gotti later offered the Brotherhood a contract to kill Johnson, Roach said.
Johnson managed to avoid getting whacked and was released from prison in 2001.
Gotti's attorneys couldn't be reached for comment.
"This information is coming from government snitches and it's total fabrication," said Mark Fleming, one of Mills' attorneys. "No money from Gotti ever showed up on any of the defendants' accounts."
Gotti, sentenced to life in prison in 1992, died of cancer at a federal prison hospital in Springfield, Mo., in 2002.
Originally published on April 16, 2006
Anonymous said...
"It wont be long when these youngsters are breaking bread and smoking with the tintos."
Yo yo...Whateva, nigga. I've been breaking bread and smoking with the tintos since I was a kid, along with having the 'inner northern nigger'. (well, innner northern WIGGER, to be accurate...)
Anyways, back to L.A; Looks like there was a driveby at a quinceanera on Lankershim in N. Hollywood this weekend. Seems some punks weren't allowed into the party and decided to come back blasting.
This may be a dated question, but wasn't it true at one time that these kinds of drive bys, with innocent bystanders everywhere, were a no-no in the Sur land, per the orders from the, what was it again? (After all, I'm getting this information from the L.A. Times...)
Here's the story:
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/california/la-me-banquet16apr16,1,1984844.story?coll=la-headlines-pe-california
5 Wounded in Shooting at Banquet Hall
Five people were wounded, one critically, in a drive-by shooting Saturday night outside a North Hollywood banquet hall, a Los Angeles Police Department spokesman said.
Officer Mike Lopez said the shooting occurred about 8:40 p.m. when four or five male suspects driving past Le Monge banquet hall in the 6900 block of Lankershim Boulevard in a silver Honda fired on a group of people gathered outside. About 100 people were inside attending a coming-of-age party for a 15-year-old girl.
Lopez said the suspects had tried to get into the party and became angry after they were turned away.
"They got in a car and came back and shot the people standing outside," he said. All the victims were male, he said, "and the victims know who the suspects are."
Alberto Ruiz, 15, was among those inside and said there was chaos immediately after the shooting, with witnesses rushing into the hall and screaming. "Everybody was freaked out," he said.
Three hours after the shooting, officers were still questioning witnesses inside the hall, a one-story building in a largely industrial area.
All of the victims were taken to local hospitals. Four of them were in stable condition, police said.
I regret to inform you all that Wally will not be returning to the Blog.Wally is on trial with the Aryan Brotherhood and is in serious jepordy of being convicted of all his crimes.
Happy Easter Bitches !
WHATS GOING ON WITH ALL THIS DRIVE BYS WHERE ARE THE ENFORCERS DOING ABOUT THIS IT LOOKS LIKE LA HAS NO POLITICS I SEEN ALOT OF VATOS FROM HAWAIIN GARDENS DOING JALES IN ANAHEIM,BUENA PARK,STANTON AND CYPRESS SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE WHATS IS THE NEW KEYHOLDER FROM ORANGE COUNTY DOING ABOUT THIS AND THE VETERANOS FROM LA DONT DO SHIT EITHER.
ARE THERE NO MORE POLITICS O QUE?
Shut The Fuck Up HOLLENBECK
Come here lil Trukos, Im going to show you all the movidas, but first we have to make sure your not a homo. I want to mentor you.
Don Q.-Lo
Holiday Hangover. Happy Day After Easter to all! Now to the board:
(Was there any paticular reason that Jack Mahone was considered the 'Godfather' and what became of him?)
You could say that, like the EME's Joe Morgan, Jack "Red" Mahone was the titular Godfather of the AB in the mid-1960's. Other influential members were Bob Galloway, Robert "Bobby" Butler and Harvey "New York Smitty" Smith. Not to be mistaken with the notorious snitch Roger Dale "Pincushion Smitty" Smith who was NOT ever an AB member or even close to it ... lol.
Since then, Red has been executed by his AB brothers (in 1978, allegedly by John "Youngster" Stinson and an accomplice) and Bobby Butler turned in the late-70's.
Like the EME, there was no formal structure in the AB in the beginning years due to the fact that they too had "too many chiefs and not enough indians". Their egos would not defer to any one man calling shots for the entire group.
Sorry about the typo. Mike "Thompson" is the correct spelling, not Thomson and, yes, this is the same person referred to in the 2004 New Yorker article about The Brand at:
http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/index.ssf?040216fa_fact6
Current court litigation prevents me from getting into current affairs. I can tell you that Mike Thompson was a martial arts expert who became "disenchanted" with AB hitting their own.
As for the 300 documented incidents, it's much more! Documented where? If I told you, I'd have to kill you. ;-) (Just kidding, of course). You would be surprised at the tapes, documents, photographs and other material that is "preserved" over time by interested individuals.
As for the M and religion, well obviously they don't go hand in hand. But there is too much Catholic and Christian exposure to these guys. No matter how bad they may be, when they get tired of the life and can find no way out, Chrisitanity seems to always be there with open arms! And many accept this avenue. Conversely, many continue using drugs and choose to remain in the "lifestyle".
FYI ..... About a year ago an ex-EME Mike "Psycadelic Mike" Gaxiola died of an apparent heart attack. Mike was from Venice and had dropped out of the M. He was engaging in sex with a young woman when his ticker went out. (What a way to go?)
Current old time carnal Ruben "Rube" Soto (also from Venice), one of the first wave of EME members, was also enjoying a round of sex with a young exotic dancer in a third (or second) story motel in L.A. when his door was knocked in by police officers. Rube made his exit via the window and broke both legs and other bones and was returned to the Department of Corrections in a wheelchair to serve a mere parole violation! (I thought EME dudes loved it in the joint)
(Has the eme, since being split into state and fed, exprinced any leadership or identity problems?)
In the federal system, they appear to be of one accord with Adolph "Champ" Reynoso pretty much designated as the "unofficial" Big Homie for that contingent of M members. They pretty much maintain a constant pipeline with their state counterparts for intelligence sharing.
In California, the "problems" you may allude to is not so much over which member should be the main man but over ideology - younger members vs. older mentality. Lots of politics takes place but that's always been the case.
Cheyenne Cadena, in his later years prior to being killed, was one who pretty much alienated himself from the mainstream EME and, as American Me depicts, got himself killed by his NF adversaries.
His saddle partner, Luis "Bala" Talamantez (another former Venice gang member), adopted Cheyenne's communist political views but was able to escape being killed (by his brothers or by his adversaries).
Check this interesting read on "Bala":
http://rwor.org/a/v20/960-69/969/talam.htm
The following link has a photo of him:
http://www.speakoutnow.org/People/LuisBatoTalamantez.html
For those of you who have a copy of Mundo's book, check out the Photo Page. It is interesting to note that "Bala" has a new handle, courtesy of his communist friends. He is known as "Bato", Spanish for "dude". According to "Bala", George Jackson gave him this handle when they were in the Adjustment Center at San Quentin in the early 1970's. In an ironic twist, EME's "Bala" and "Rock On" Louie Lopez joined forces" with the BGF on August 21, 1971, and executed three (3) prison guards. On that bloody day, two white inmates (killed by the BGF) and George Jackson himself, perished in the Adjustment Center. Jackson was shot by a prison guard.
In Mundo's book, Bala is in Photo Page 1 (San Quentin EME Class of 1966) and also in Photo Page 9 (1977 - Visalia, California – EME Baptism Ceremony).
Will continue scrolling down the list after some welcomed lunch.
Peace .......
Tijuana Jailer
Very interesting Tijuanero, Gracias
Lo agadesco un chingatal, Great change of pace from what we had going on here.
"ay te miro chamiro"
BIG JOE THEY ARE CALLING YOU ARE YOU GOING TO LET THESE PENDEJOS FROM LA ESPECIALL HAWAIIN GARDENS TO COME AND DISRECPECT THE OC CARNALES
The following link has a photo of him:
http://www.speakoutnow.org/People/LuisBatoTalamantez.html
HE LOOKS LIKE A GEEK! JUST GOES TO SHOW YOU CAN'T JUDGE A BOOK BY ITS COVER. AN AMAZING VATO,
FO SHO.
East Los Angeles controlla todo!
From San Diego to Crescent City, thee City of Angels rifa.
TRUKOS IS BACK
(According to "S", the CDC started the split in the mexican inmate populations...between North and South. By, feeding the idea of life style differances and the behavior differances between the city dwellers and farm workers, CDC started a "Class" prejudice between the up-rising and growing Mexican inmate populations.)
My friend, your "S" buddy gives the CDC too much credit. The convicts did a good enough job creating this North and South thing. If you need to blame someone, blame the M. They were/are masters at alienating folks. The "behavior differences between city dwellers and farm workers" was real, not perceived. L.A. gang members identified with only a few gangs from Northern Cal. Gang members from San Jose, Stockton, Modesto, Fresno and San Francisco were some areas that come immediately to mind. In fact, first and second generation EME members hailed from ALL of the cities mentioned above.
CDC can be blamed for many things that are inappropriate but to suggest that they caused the proliferation of this North-South activity would be like blaming the police for all the 187's that occur in the barrios.
(whateverhappen to billy hale?) EME's Billy "Chivo" Hale from Compton died of a heroin overdose.
(did jap mike and robot ever team up on the outs?) Not directly. EME's Anthony "Tony" Palacios (Geraghty) and Paul "Huero Tres" Portillo (Big Hazard - Robot's home boy) and a few others joined Jap Mike in Hawaii where I believe they currently reside.
(why was robot called robot?) When Robot was a mere puppy (infant) he had polio and wore leg braces. He walked like a "robot" and was given this handle in the Ramona Gardens by his Big Hazard homies. His legs straightened out and he "walked" his way up the EME criminal corporate ladder!
(That my bothers is life and death in the real Land of Oz..)
Great country for sure, Gava Joe. Why do we fret over traveling to Europe and other worldly parts when we have such beauty in our 50 states? (or is it more than 50 now?). I'm a native Californian myself and love it here, thank you. (traffic and all) ;-)
Not too much I can relate to this round but we'll raise Wally from his trance and get some new information for you In The Hatsters. DON Q .... Don't worry about us being "quoted" on other web sites. As long as we're not MIS-quoted!
In reviewing Latino's post and, the subsequent "reply to Latino's comments" by "lavet", I agree 100% with "lavet's" response. I agree because I know him as a fellow LE member who was also involved in the law enforcement effort against the prison gangs for almost as long as I was.
(This Norteno vs. Sureno Varrio Warfare has been tried to be stopped by one of the more famous Eme members named Cheyenne Cadena)
Cheyenne Cadena's attempts at stopping the EME-on-NF "hits" originated with NF members (Gonzalo "Chalo" Hernandez, "Joker" Mendoza, "Black Jesse" 'valenzuela and others) asking Cheyenne to exert his influence with M. Cheyenne, being a visionary and leaning toward a radical anti-establishment mentality, believed he could bring about such a halt under the name of Hispanic "carnalismo", and exert his control and takeover of ALL Chicanos under one umbrella.
But Chy's main antagonists were in fact his own carnales, who could not see themselves bringing into the fold a bunch of "farmers" and "sodbusters" (some of their derisive terms for NF members).
What ensued from that point on ...... Cheyenne being killed by NF .... NF members in other prisons being killed by EME in retaliation ...... division of north and south inmates for good, brings us to the evolvement of this phenomenon and what we see now - a mess.
I never knew that Cheyenne was thrown over the "pier" .... lol. I think he meant to say tier.
Prison gang protection for OC members is not a novel development and we predicted this back in 1978! Jimmy Coppola was a Mob figure and godson to the late Carlo Gambino. He was also a longtime resident of Represa, California, also known as Folsom Prison. For several years he was under the wing of such "protectors" as Joe Morgan, Mike Ison, Ernie "Kilroy" Roybal, "Champ" Reynoso and other infamous EME VIP's. That is, until he was ultimately stabbed to death by EME on a drug-related issue.
The Feds became fertile ground for EME and AB, despite early warnings from California prison gang experts, and the control of those prisons was handled with calculated ease for these transplants.
"They never knew what hit them because they refused to listen" is California's reminder to the feds and anyone who makes light of our prison gang members.
Not only were traditional organized criminal figures easy pickings for the EME and AB but the EME particularly enjoyed the role of "protecting" many imprisoned Mexican drug figures.
EME's initial contact with the Arellano-Felix Cartel occurred in a federal prison.
The loose "connection" between these two groups (I won't say alliance because neither group trusts the other) has led to the execution of a Catholic Cardinal (by mistake) by EME member David "Popeye" Barron. The intended target, an adversary of the Arellano-Felix cartel, was "Chapo" Guzman who was in a similar-looking limo.
There will be more on this relationship in the not-so-distant future.
With this limited information to share, I bid you all a good day ..... go Lakers ..... and I'll toss a Molotov Cocktail in Wally's front yard. Maybe that will get his attention??
Peace ................
Tijuana Jailer
Shut The Fuck Up HOLLENBECK
WHAT THE FUCK!! I HAVENT SAID SHIT!!...IVE BEEN QUITE SO DON'T LOK AT ME! IF I POST SOMETHING I'LL STAND BEHIND IT AND PUT MY PLACASO....
HOLLENBECK RESIDENT!!!
TO THE LITTLE PENDEJO FROM EAST LA YOU ARE THE KIND OF PENDEJOS THAT GIVE THE SOUTH A BAD NAME YOU GUYS HAVE TO LEARN TO HAVE RESPECT NO WONDER EXCEPT FOR V NORWALK YOU VATOS ARE WACK IN THE PINTA EVEN IN THE UNDEWORLD YOU HAVE TO LEARN HOW TO RESPECT.
East Los started it all aye. Everyone falls in line behind ELA, even the OC.
ELA got the SUR on lockdown!
Skin care tips for all the brute, ruffian, rogues, and yes even gentleman - that sojourn here at Wally's.
1. It's best to avoid shaving the very first thing in the morning. If possible, let your skin wake up a while. This allows the "puffiness" you encounter from fluids collecting in your skin during the night to recede, thus allowing you to get a closer shave when you do begin the task.
2. Use an exfoliate such as a facial cleanser or scrub to eradicate dead skin cells and open up the pores of the skin to prepare it for a close shave.
3. Stubble should be wetted with warm or hot water before shaving. This swells the hair shaft allowing the blade to cut the hair, not your skin.
4. Thoroughly massage shave cream into stubble. A vitamin and Aloe Vera based shave cream will provide a close soothing shave and protect against razor rashes and burns.
5. Use a sharp blade. A dull blade is responsible for many shaving cuts as it drags over your face and catches your skin along with the hairs of your beard.
6. Rinse the blade often in hot water when shaving and use slow short strokes. Take your time.
7. Shaving with grain means shaving in the direction of how the hair grows on your face. It is always best to shave this way. Shaving against the grain can cause redness, rashes, razor burn and ingrown hairs, which are all painful.
8. After shaving, apply an oil-free moisturizer to soothe and protect the face. If you prefer an after-shave, check the label for alcohol. Dryness and stinging sensations are by-products of most after-shave products whose primary ingredient is alcohol. It may feel good at the time, but alcohol based after-shaves are actually irritating to many complexions.
And lastly, please forgo any kind of fragrance!!!! A real gentleman will wear only a lightly scented good English talc on the chest and on the nape. God Bless.
I assure you we all printed this out and pasted it on our bathroom and bedroom mirrors.
Have a Wonderful day.
Thanks TJ for the good stuff. Very good info, from one really in the know. If you or yours can get at "Blue" (WN) to do a print like Mundo's, the insight would be a real good read. I've been gone so long...last I saw him he was still up, boots on and ready to "go" at the cell door-whenever someone was on the tier. Is he even alive still? He told me he was not into it,(book)because he did not want the followers to mess up as he did. Wild stories of guns and explosives, inside. A mix of truth and fiction, I'm sure.
Are you aware of an influential guy- Felix- vacationing in a certain walled condo? No, not from south of the border...but is he related? Always wondered why he had the pull he did. "We" never knew.
The BGF, coiled or just laying low...protecting their athlete's?
Black Augest used to be a difficult month for us. The Soledad/SQ 6 thing, and all.
Thanks, TJ.
As far as the above posted "amonymous" and HER skin care tips...that is typical "A" yard stuff.
X
FYI
National Geographic Channel is showing a special on Pelican Bay and the gangs within Sunday May 7, pst 7 p.m. Enjoy...
While watching you guys bust online is pretty hysterical, it's always nice when the real info comes via TJ and others...thanks for not forgetting those of us here for the real info.
Thanks for the shaving tips, but what if you use an electric shaver?
Whats the best way for my ruca to shave her pubic pelitos and not leave so much stubble?
If I get chatos (crabs) do I have to shave all my pelitos off or is there some kind of ointment I can use?
One last question how did you get your nalgitas so clean shaven?
Hey skin care guy.I don't think most of these mocosos are old enough to shave.After reading some of these post
(East Los started it all aye.Everyone falls in line behind ELA even the O.C. ELA has the Sur on lockdown)
These kids are still wiping there momas milk off there chins.
TJ Jailer . You got a lot of class man ,I like your response to Don Q.about that whole brown Pride forum."At least there not mis-quating us" that shows alot of class.Con Respecto.
TJ or Anybody
Whats the status on made carnales that are other than Mexican is there any and if so whats their nationality
Scroll up homeboy.That subject has been addressed several times.
Addressed but not answered
Good to see you back Tijuanero, when the Maestro's gone too long Wallys kingdom experiences anarchy and disaray.
And good advice from you about not getting too aguitado at the plagarizers unless they misquote or misuse Wallys bloggers. But it's tough seeing these "posers" disrespecting and claiming somekind of expertise, but I guess that's the world as it is.
The website you recommended concerning "Bala Talamantez" was very interesting and I enjoyed being able to read how "Bala" has transformed himself into someone who is seemingly working for positive results now.
Even if you don't agree with his politics he is another example of someone who has come a long way from being considered a "Mexican Pinto and gangster" to someone who has obviously educated himself and now is not only very literate but extremely eloquent in his writing.
Makes me think of the old Jerry Garcia lyric "What a long, strange trip it's been!
TJ, you and others including myself have said it before,it is a mistake to "underestimate" the intelligence and guile of the "Chicano gangsters". It's good that many survivors are now working towards positive goals like religious salvation, community and youth services, and prison reform.
And like You and Gava Joe I'm also a native Californian,(born at the old Queen of Angels Hospital), so contigo's "Go Lakers"
man, this blog just went way out of control, damn its sad, wheres ese wally?
(Whats the status on made carnales that are other than Mexican is there any and if so whats their nationality)
You made me "work" for this one!
Caucasian-American
Morgan, Joe
Shryock, Raymond
(Huero Shy from Artesia)
Filipino:
DaSallas, Edward (Koa from Temple)
Enerva, Manuel (San Diego)
French:
DeCoud, Leo (80th Street)
Italian
Delia, Michael
Japanese-American
Mike Kudo (Jap Mike)
Native-American
Elmore, Corwin
(Sloppy from Clanton)
Lewis, Martin (Crazy Horse)
Puerto-Rican
Perez, David
(Davi from San Francisco)
Other first and second generation carnales like Mike Ison (Acha from San Francisco), Jesse Jordan (Cheneno from Maravilla), Mike Mulhern (Big Mike from Primera Flats), Roland Berry, Billy Hale (Chivo from Compton), Howard Pacino(Cappy from Hawaiian Gardens), Benjamin Peters (Topo from Hoyo Soto), Daniel Roberts (Termite from Varrio Nuevo) and possibly one or two others had Anglo or "other" surnames but these guys were either mixed (Mexican + other) or full blooded Mexican with stepfathers interjected or a white boy infiltrated the family tree somewhere.
It is pretty much fair to assume that, of the first 400-500 EME members, approximately one dozen were NOT of Mexican descent (about 2.5%).
Since the early wave of Emeros, those numbers may have changed some one way or another but I would say it's about 2-3% with a margin of error at 1/2 of one percent!
Now we can say "asked and answered".
Don Q .... Maybe we should be somewhat "flattered" that other web sites are plagarizing and maybe they can become "edified" by In The Hat.
Nevertheless, it does irk me when someone takes information, then spins it with bs to create a fabricated story mixed with truths. But I suppose we see that every day on our news channels (?).
"Bala" was quite a character and, yes, very educated. Like most EME mobsters, he was "state raised" and self-educated.
He was one of two actual EME members on the mainline during the 1968 "Shoe War". He took a shank away from NF Jesse "Black Jesse" Valenzuela (from Chiques) and stabbed Jesse (non-fatally). He and Manuel "Tati" Torrez later (1969) stabbed NF Gonzalo "Chalo" Gonzalez and Bruce "Huero" Morgan in B-Section.
As you already know, he was acquitted and subsequently released from San Quentin following the San Quentin Six trial and the photo in Visalia placed him with Mundo, "Huero Buff" Flores, "Tati" and other brothers who were actively operating throughout the state of California and in Mexico.
"Bala" happened to hate "the Man" more than his lust for killing BGF.
This accounted for his politics. Keep in mind that when an EME carnal deviates too far from "the path", he places himself in danger of being placed "in the hat" by his carnales.
"Bala" was "evaluated" a few times during his tenure in the old days and he had enough "juice" to survive EME scrutiny.
A common understanding between the EME and BGF in those days was to unite when it became an issue of protesting versus the prison staff.
"Rock On Lou" Lopez particularly enjoyed "getting it on" with staff and tear gas and billy clubs was staff's response to these marathon encounters or, "cell extractions".
The BGF and EME had a grudging respect for each other and would look forward to confrontations on the Adjustment Center or B-Section yards (armed or unarmed).
The EME always seemed to have a "leg up" on these black warriors. Not only was the EME too creative (as in the manufacture and introduction of "shanks" into the lock-up units) and too crafty for the game BGFers, but EME members always seemed to be having fun during their encounters.
In one report, I describe a "feeding frenzy" and these guys would hold conversations and laugh as they battled their adversaries!
Example: EME's Roy "Sonny B" Ballasteros (from Big Hazard) on the Adjustment Center exercise yard: Ballasteros held a black inmate by the collar with one hand, stabbing him with the other, and "talking to him" at the same time. (quote) "Do you like it here? .... or here?" (quote)
In a way, one could say that this energy was indeed better directed versus each other than toward staff. Can you imagine the carnage if the BGF, EME and others pooled their resources against the guards? Not a pretty sight as we witnessed in A/C in 1971!
As for intelligence, there's plenty of it behind bars, Don Q. When utilized in a productive way, the sky's the limit. When used in a criminal manner ....... well, what can I say. It seems that that path leads to an early death. What a shame. What a waste!
Peace ........
Tijuana Jailer
good post tj, you ever heard of pino from HG who was amde a big homie, and big sid from san diego?
damn fool, get off my dick, you want to suck it so bad i can smell your shitty breath, sorry mijo, but i only fuck pussy, im sorry your dad abandoned you, maybe when i turn 18 i can adopt you and show you what a real jefe looks and acts like, anyways L.A. is still as beautiful as always, gotta go know, anonynous dont worry one day i'll be your daddy,
arattos....
Juan "El Chueco" Martinez has just been released from Federal Custody after serving 30 straight years in prison. Word is, El Mero Mero has him looking for lil trukos. Apparently, the "Trukos Poke" as is spreading like wildfire in popularity. Gang Investigators are dumbfounded by the apparent distancing from the machismo traditionally associated with gangmembers in lieu of this homosexual activity. Replicas of Trukos nalgas have been selling like hotcakes at the swapmeets everywhere. El Chueco is also known as Mr. Big Thumbs, Saquatch hands, and DedoLoco. Stayed tuned, more to come from the calles of Califas.
Tijuanas wrote:
"Rock On Lou" Lopez particularly enjoyed "getting it on" with staff and tear gas and billy clubs was staff's response to these marathon encounters or, "cell extractions".
Ah yes, the nervous cadence and lockstep rhythm of the Goon Squad as they hurry to the Ad-Seg and their assignment..In the aftermath I often wondered what my response would be to having a "shocktail" of piss and shit thrown on me, and what wrath I would incur..
I witnessed a few "extractions" across the "pier" (lol) before the days of tasers and even shields, just batons and helmets, and they could get ugly depending on the tenacity of the con and where the squad was from..DVI Tracy had an unusually ruthless bunch, favored the "midnite roll-ups".. Soledad Central was practically devoid of them, kept very low profile, and the Camp Centers merely sniped you from the tower w/silencers and a crew carried you out after lights out.. I recall going to culinary work call one early morning and someone apparently got their wires crossed and the main yard was littered with bodies. WE all just minded our own biz and went about our jobs.. What happens in the CDC stays in the CDC..
My ol lady got me one of those power mini tillers for my garden instead of the hoe i've manned for last 20 yrs. It's 2-stroke ,sounds like a chain saw.. I'm braggin to the neighbor that I have the only "2 stroke hoe east of the Rockies".....
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"Rock On Lou" Lopez particularly enjoyed "getting it on" with staff and tear gas and billy clubs was staff's response to these marathon encounters or, "cell extractions".
sorryboutdat
Hey Tijuana Jailer, check this out perro, one of my earlier posts was deleted for some unknown reason, maybe I can get an answer perro, my familia has many of good crimees from the South Bay/Harbor Area/Long Beach perro, what is their representation in the "MM" perro? Anyone first thought names come to mind, gracias perro
Tijuana Jailer, if the Mexican Mafia really has as much to do with gangs becoming what they've become, did Oliver North get their permission to let Manuel Noriega flood the streets of L.A. with crack in the 1980s?
Sincerely,
Jane Fonda's 14 inch dildo.
"I've gone places Tom Hayden could never reach..."
anonymous your a fuckin lame ese, lil trukos just fuckin let you have damn, shamed by a youngster, I wonder, were you ever locked up, you sound like a chester
http://youtube.com/watch?v=In1lIBlNUVg
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR ALL YOU SURENOS OUT THERE WHAT IS THE POINT OF PAYING TAXES WHEN THE ENFORCER AINT DOING SHIT ABOUT ALL THE DISREPECT ON THE STREET LIKE BLASTING ON A PARTY JUST BECASUE THEY COULDNT GO IN,VATOS FROM LA SELLING THEIR SHIT IN OC IN DIFFERENT VARRIOS,THE DISRESPECT OF ALL THE YOUNGERST WITH VETERANOS WHEN YOU HEARD ABOUT THIS WHAT IS THE POINT OF PAYING TAXES IF THERE IS NO RULES OR THESE YOUNGERST DONT CARE BUT EVEN SADER IS TO SEE VATOS FORM LA WHO ARE 25 AND UP AND STILL BANGING THEIR VARRIO WHAT HAPPEND TO BEING SURENOS AS YOU GET OLD.
By JOHN McDONALD
The Orange County Register
U.S. District Court Judge David Carter is presiding at the Santa Ana racketeering trial, which began last month, of four men accused of being Aryan Brotherhood leaders. Barry Byron Mills, 57, and Tyler Davis Bingham, 58, could get the death penalty if convicted; Christopher Overton Gibson, 46, and Edgar Wesley Hevle, 54, face life in prison. The four are accused of ordering 16 killings and assaults.
Now
The trial resumed last week after being out of session for two weeks. Some evidence involved the slaying of an Aryan Brotherhood associate suspected of informing on suspects in the killing of a cashier at an Anaheim supermarket.
Next
The trial is expected to continue into the fall, with more than 100 prosecution witnesses expected to testify.
SANTA ANA – Swapping murder stories is one way Aryan Brotherhood members get to know one another.
Federal prosecutors are interested in one tale in particular: the tale told to former gang member Kevin Roach when he was recruited into the brotherhood in 1991. It was the story of Richard Andreasen, targeted for death in 1983 for helping police identify three suspects in the killing of a clerk at an Anaheim supermarket.
Roach, a twice-convicted killer, testified last week that John Greshner bragged about being one of the men who stabbed Andreasen to death at the federal prison in Leavenworth, Kan.
"He was proud of it. It made him semifamous in the prison," Roach testified.
Among other things, prosecutors are trying to prove that the Andreasen killing was ordered by defendant Barry Mills and others, then carried out by Greshner and another gang member.
Roach rose to become a leader in the Aryan Brotherhood and ultimately the prosecution's star witness in the racketeering case against 40 brotherhood members.
Trial testimony in Santa Ana has given a rare look into the inner workings of the violent prison gang. Evidence ranged last week from a federal official who described how gang members subverted prison guards to how inmates made invisible ink from human urine. One witness said that New York Mafia boss John Gotti failed to deliver on a promise to hire a lawyer for Mills in return for protection while in prison.
Evidence on the killing of Andreasen, at age 35, was among the most dramatic in the case.
Andreasen had been an Aryan Brotherhood associate when he went to prison in the 1970s. He was released on Christmas Eve in 1975 and settled in Orange County, supporting his wife and daughter as a machinist, according to trial evidence. Andreasen was laid off after nine months and was unable to pay his rent.
His wife and the baby were "out in the street," he told Westminster police Detective Jerry King in an interview, according to evidence at the Aryan Brotherhood trial.
He moved his family to Westminster, to a house where addicts went for drugs.
There he met three men from Cypress, and they teamed up to rob supermarkets. On Oct. 7, 1976, the robbery crew shot to death Jack Mason, 20, of Stanton, a cashier at the Albertsons market at 1610 S. Brookhurst St. in Anaheim.
Under police questioning, Andreasen said that he was only the getaway driver.
He said he knew his friends took a sawed-off shotgun into the store but said he didn't know they would use it.
Andreasen helped police identify and locate the other suspects.
By 1983, Andreasen was in the Orange County Jail on a bank-robbery charge. Leaders of the Aryan Brotherhood received a transcript of Andreasen's interview with King, according to testimony.
The gang tried to kill Andreasen at the jail, but Andreasen beat up his attacker.
Andreasen was sent to the federal prison at Leavenworth later that year.
Patrick Keohane, associate warden at Leavenworth at the time, testified Wednesday that he was one of the first to reach Andreasen when the hit took place.
"I heard a very loud thud. And I looked around immediately, and I saw a fellow by the name of Andreasen on the floor," Keohane testified. He thought the inmate was having a seizure, but when he ran to help him, he saw two convicts with knives.
"Large knives. They were thrusting them into his body at the time," he said. "I was visibly watching when they would thrust these knives, not only into his body, but all the way through his body, it seemed. And it was actually hitting the stone underneath his body."
Testimony is scheduled to continue today
(I wonder where you ever locked up , you sound like a chester)
Yes I did a couple of years for turning out you and your sancho lil trukos,remember?
HELLO OUT THERE !!!
Echo Echo Echo.
THIS IS WHAT REALLY TOOK PLACE, THE POLICE ARE JUST USING AN OLD CASES TO PROSECUTE AB. ITS ACTUALLY AN OLD CASE FROM WAY BACK. I BELIEVE BIG TRUKOS SON IS THE GUY VISITING OUR BLOG AS LIL TRUKOS.
By 1999, big trukos was in the Orange County Jail on a public intoxication charge. Leaders of the Chesters received notice of his arrival at the jail, according to testimony.
The gang tried to molest trukos at the jail, but he sucked up to his attacker good and was given a pass.
Big Trukos was sent to the federal prison at Leavenworth later that year.
Patrick Keohane, associate warden at Leavenworth at the time, testified Wednesday that he was one of the first to reach Big Trukos when the famous "Trukos Poke " first took place.
"I heard a very loud thud. And I looked around immediately, and I saw a fellow by the name of Trukos on the floor," Keohane testified. He thought the inmate was having a seizure, but when he ran to help him, he saw two convicts with big fingers.
"Large fingers. They were thrusting them into his body at the time," he said. "I was visibly watching when they would thrust these fingers, not only into his butt, but all the way through his body, it seemed. And it was actually hitting the top of his head."
Testimony is scheduled to continue today
STRAIGHT FROM THE CALLES OF CALIFAS
FUCKING COPS ALWAYS TWISTING SHIT AROUND TO MAKE A CASE, THIS IS WHAT REALLY WENT DOWN...
By 1983, Big Trukos was in the Orange County Jail on a public intoxication charge. Leaders of the Black Chesters Gang received notice of Big Trukos arrival at the jail, according to testimony.
The gang tried to molest
Big Trukos at the jail, but Big Trukos outran his attacker.
Big Trukos was sent to the federal prison at Leavenworth later that year.
Patrick Keohane, associate warden at Leavenworth at the time, testified Wednesday that he was one of the first to reach Big Trukos when the now famous, "TRUKOS POKE" first took place.
"I heard a very loud thud. And I looked around immediately, and I saw a fellow by the name of Trukos on the floor," Keohane testified. He thought the inmate was having a seizure, but when he ran to help him, he saw two convicts with indredibly large fingers.
"Humongous fingers. They were thrusting them into his body at the time," he said. "I was visibly watching when they would thrust these large fingers, not only into his body, but all the way through his body, it seemed. And it was actually hitting the top of his head."
Testimony is scheduled to continue today
I BELIEVE THE LIL TRUKOS ON OUR BLOG IS THE SON OF BIG TRUKOS FROM THE STORY YOU JUST READ
anonymous you just admitted your a child molester!!!! GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE NOW!
i just sent a message with your ip addressm to the authorities, you better watch out
LOL, fuck homie your fucking pathetic, get a life ese, dont play with lil boys
anonymous you just admitted your a child molester!!!! GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE NOW!
i just sent a message with your ip addressm to the authorities, you better watch out
GOOD! MAYBE TRUKOS WILL BE LEFT ALONE NOW. THATS TERRIBLE ABOUT HIS POP'S. SAD STORY
LOL, fuck homie your fucking pathetic, get a life ese, dont play with lil boys
Trucha, I hear El Cheuco just got our after 30 years and is looking for you.
From former Carnal, "Bala Talamantez" Tijuas provided the website and whether one agrees totally or not it does contain history and insight.
San Quentin:
Links in the Chain
From the murder of George Jackson to the Criminalization of youth in the '90s
Revolutionary Worker #969, August 16, 1998
The RW recently had the opportunity to interview Luis Talamantez and other former members of the San Quentin 6. Luis spoke about the assassination of revolutionary political prisoner George Jackson by California prison authorities, the historical events that led to the case of the San Quentin 6, and the implications for the struggle today. He also spoke to the RW about his activities as a prison rights activist with the Pelican Bay Information Project and California Prison Focus.
RW: How did the case of the San Quentin 6 come about?
LT: My name is Bato. George Jackson gave me the name Bato, a name I honor, a name I exchange with all my comrades who are all batos to me because the legacy of Comrade George Jackson lives on. I'm one of the original San Quentin 6 trial defendants, political prisoners in a case that goes back about 25 years now. My co-defendants and comrades were Sundiata (Willie) Tate, David Johnson, Larry Spain, Hugo Pinnell and the late Fleeta Drumgo.
Our case grew out of the assassination of George Jackson at San Quentin. We were present, though out of seeing range, when he was slain by fascist San Quentin prison guards. We can't really speak about the San Quentin 6 without speaking about George Jackson and the Soledad Brothers. We would also have to speak about the Marin County shoot out on August 7, 1970, when George's younger brother Jonathan was slain by San Quentin guards during an attempt to free the Soledad Brothers. This was a whole era of prison struggle, of resistance by the imprisoned class. The struggles took place in a historical context that we identified with. I've had the privilege of knowing my comrades-in-arms, prisoners who became revolutionary through the process of indoctrination by people like comrade George Jackson, Ho Chi Minh, Che Guevara and Malcolm X. George Jackson taught us a lot.
Leadership was provided for us by comrade George Jackson. We were all incarcerated within what was then called Mad Adjustment Center at San Quentin. By the way, it was the first SHU or Security Housing Unit in the country. It was established in California based on the concept of sensory deprivation, of complete isolation, of round the clock surveillance, of political retaliation and punishment for political beliefs. It all started right here in California and within the San Quentin cell block that was called the MAD Adjustment Center, and then was spread to other parts of the country.
On August 21, 1971, after an uprising by the prisoners against our brutal living conditions on the first tier of the MAD adjustment center, George Jackson fled from the doorway of the MAD adjustment center into the open to prevent being surrounded, isolated, and killed within the cell block facility. He chose and went for freedom and he died along the black asphalt alleyway called Utility Road. He was slain on this black asphalt on that Saturday afternoon. I theorize he was assassinated after being found still alive. Other people have their own opinion, but I theorize that the trajectory of the single bullet that hit George Jackson on that day was completely aerodynamically impossible. George Jackson was shot down in the back. He was shot from the north block catwalk which is about 30 feet off the ground and that runs along one side of the north block. From that catwalk, a sharp shooter guard took aim and shot George Jackson. That guard's own admittance was that the bullet ricocheted off the black asphalt, went up and nicked George's heel, hit him in the buttocks and then somehow hit him in the head and killed him.
The state prosecutorial experts theorize that George Jackson died through a strange, ricochet trajectory bullet that took a complete right angle turn in flight to have accomplished this feat. From my memory, from what I've heard, from what I've thought about these last 25 years, I would say that George Jackson was finished off on the ground. I still have fresh recollections in my mind of the chalk outlined figure, with his hand outstretched, that was left on the black asphalt after the removal of his body. That imprint has stayed in my mind over the years and I have accepted that that was where he fell. I have not accepted that that's where he fell dead, but where he fell wounded and was finished off. Subsequently, I learned from one of my comrades who had a better view that eventful day, that George had fell elsewhere and was dragged onto the asphalt.
George Jackson had long been marked for death by the prison system and by the government's counter-intelligence program or COINTELPRO during an age when revolutionary leadership and fighters around the country and around the world, both outside and inside prison, were being assassinated. These were the years when there was an active government effort to eliminate leadership. It happened with AIM [American Indian Movement], with the Panthers, with the Puerto Rican freedom fighters. COINTELPRO never went away and still surveils today.
Six of us were randomly selected out of 26 prisoners who were freed from our cells on August 21, 1971. The authorities called us the Prison Half Dozen, well-baked revolutionaries suspected as the instigators, the perpetrators, co-conspirators, of a big plot to escape and blow up the world. Because in their minds, they had so exaggerated and overblown about who George Jackson was and the vanguard movement he stood for, that they thought of giant fantasies about what George Jackson would have been possible of had he lived.
I was acquitted after the lengthy San Quentin 6 trial which ran from 1972 to 1976. The trial itself lasted 18 months and was considered the longest up to that time. Three were found guilty and three of us were acquitted. I was acquitted and released eight days later, on August 20, 1976. I came to live in San Francisco.
RW: What drew you back to becoming a prisoners' rights activist?
LT: Nothing drew me back. I was never entirely released by the grip of the prison system. It still controls my life because I am a two-strike ex-felon. The state can third-strike me by manipulation. So the work I do is mostly for the class struggle, but there is also an element of self preservation. A lot of our ex-prisoner members realize that things are getting worse now not only for people inside prisons, but also for those in our communities where they are three-striking youngsters and sending them up for life. We are leading a vanguard movement of families against three strikes. Families independently are organizing. They call themselves collectively "Families Against 3 Strikes." It is very encouraging that there is a grass roots movement coming about through a critical need, a vital emerging need, a need of life and death in many cases, of survival in Third World communities which today are decimated by mass imprisonments. The prison population in California stands at 163,000 and over 100,000 are people of color. One thousand prisoners a month are going into the California prison system. Many of them are being violated for the third strike. Many are being violated in what has become the merry-go-round of recidivism. Eighty percent of all prisoners that are released return to prison in a vicious cycle that is kept going by the power structure. It is profitable. The prison industrial complex has manipulated legislative acts in collusion with law enforcement and a gullible public to make sure that the operation continues in the trafficking of lives.
RW: What kind of changes, what kind of struggle did you have to go through to become a revolutionary prisoner at that time?
LT: Let me say that being revolutionary takes a lifting of one's consciousness and values above personal incentives--to one of total behavior adjustment against exploitation, aggression, self aggrandizement. To become a revolutionary is a slow process. But we need to accelerate that process among the prison class today, which is severely afflicted by lack of revolutionary awareness and activity.
For myself, I was a ward of the state at 12 years old. I developed a certain code of behavior of live and let live, and later, a code of solidarity, mutual assistance and self-help. As your consciousness grows over a period of years, somewhere along the line, you come to a certain basic conclusion in reference to things, and one was the ideology of class warfare. When you realize that you are of a separate under-privileged class, you realize there are other class mates similarly situated as yourself, and that the oppressor oppresses all the oppressed. You realize members of this class come in different shapes, forms, and colors, orientation. You develop your revolutionary set of values, of priorities, and you struggle to be a revolutionary and to maintain a revolutionary perspective. You struggle to not succumb to internal strife, victimization, exploitation, internal warfare, internal genocide among your own class. You understand that the class must be strong to withstand the onslaught of the oppression within which you are being kept, and which is your everyday reality. You see these things as you resist injustice and question the way things are, i.e. as your revolutionary activities and consciousness develop.
RW: What inspires you to continue struggling today?
LT: I am inspired today as I was then, by prisoners that I have known and have felt a life bond with. One prisoner who I hold really dear to my heart is Louie Lopez, who for 20 years was a solid cross cultural comrade, proud of his own Mexican heritage. Louie Lopez who I knew, and Sundiata also knew since juvenile hall, youth authority days, is typical of so many of the struggling prisoners today. On Father's Day 1996 when he died, part of me died with him. As one of the 26 prisoners freed on August 21, 1971 at San Quentin, Louie Lopez stood with us, struggled with us and also bore witness to the death of George Jackson.
Louie Lopez, whose death could have been my own, keeps me struggling. He should never have died in the abject state he did. He was given no treatment despite complaints and attempts to have medical attention given to him. The Pelican Bay Information Project visited him and monitored his case for a number of years while he was at Pelican Bay. He always gave me the fist salute. We knew who we were and we knew in our hearts we had come on the revolutionary road together as prisoners and we would stand and die together.
I speak of Louie Lopez because he was an example even when he was being set upon and beaten by the guards. He was never quiet, he resisted under stress and punishment. He made the rest of us strong even though he stood in chains. We rallied to each other, we embraced each other, we supported each other. I want to pay tribute to my comrade, my friend who died after being transferred from Pelican Bay to Corcoran. He was never told until the last month of his life that he contracted bone cancer. He had complained about aching bones--which a lot of prisoners today complain about--aching bones, soreness, weakness, that abject state when there's no exercise, no sunlight, within the tomb of Pelican Bay. Prisoners never get out in fresh open air but are kept in their cells, temperatures sometimes up to 90 degrees during the summer. A month after he died, a letter from him reached me via another prisoner, scribbled by a very weak hand. It said "Here is the last information I have for you. There has been a number of cell extractions this month. I heard the buzzer go off, extraction team buzzer go off so many times I have laid here and I have counted and I have written it down." It showed his dedication that even while he was dying he tried to let me know what was taking place within the bowels of the prison, to assist me in the work of monitoring the abuses there.
RW: Can you talk more about your work today with the Pelican Bay Information Project (PBIP) and California Prison Focus (CPF)?
LT: Pelican Bay, a super-maximum security prison, opened in 1989. Ruchell Magee and Hugo Penell were on the first bus sent there. Hugo and others have told us that it is an institution where violence is a standard policy used to do bodily harm to prisoners, and as a means of control by the guards.
Pelican Bay Information Project was formed by family members who came to us and pleaded their case to have their loved ones included in securing visitation rights to the prison. Other organizations like the Prisoner's Rights Union, more recently Legal Services for Prisoners with Children, National Lawyers Guild, Prison Law Office, Criminal Justice Consortium Elements, ACLU, and a lot of others came together recognizing the emergency need for a group to form in response to brutality at Pelican Bay. Thus we were born out of necessity to fight the injustice being inflicted on our community and our loved ones.
Hugo remains today completely isolated at the notorious Pelican Bay State Prison. He is one of the few remaining legacies of the struggle on Saturday afternoon, August 21, 1971. Because of our condition, because of the oppression we had felt, because of our political understanding of what was taking place, because of our lengthy prison indoctrination, because of the revolutionary struggles within the prison system that were bringing prisoners together in solidarity and across racial barriers--there wasn't as much aimless and chaotic violence as there is today within the prison system. The leadership in the prisons today are kept completely confined under severe lockdown, not allowed to indoctrinate, gather, communicate or to form any kind of lasting solidarity movements within the prison system. Instead there's an ongoing, active campaign by the state security unit (SSU) to disunite and discommunicate prisoners.
Recently, I received a tape from Hugo Pinell, the last San Quentin 6 still in prison, who is originally from Nicaragua. He has spent 35 continuous years in California's prison system: San Quentin, Folsom, Tehachapi, Corcoran, Pelican Bay. Hugo sends his revolutionary greetings as always, but asks--where is the revolution? Where are the revolutionaries? Why are they silent on my behalf? Should I still believe the people will free me, because I will never submit to the power of the state or to the criminal injustice system which has tried me, found me guilty, has kept me illegally in prison for 35 years. I will never submit to the legal process, court writ, to free me. Only the people can free me. That has been Hugo Pinell's message for years and years to us. He's a voice from within the bowels of an incredible ferocious beast that is swallowing up our children, our families, our neighborhoods, our communities, our working class. Swallowing us up here in California at an incredible rate. And Hugo remains a voice of those hundreds of thousands that are going under and into the prison system where today there is no revolutionary movement yet. Because of this we will struggle to be a voice not only for Hugo but other comrades that are in there: Luis RodrÃguez, Paul Red, Fati Carter, youngest brother of the well-known slain Panther Bunchy Carter, Steve Castillo, one of the finest jailhouse lawyers, who has waged a struggle for years within the bowels of hell. These SHU units are where the politically conscious fighters and resisters are kept isolated, away from being able to organize and provide the leadership that is desperately needed in the prisons today.
California Prison Focus, which is an outgrowth of PBIP, has heard from thousands of prisoners similarly situated. Among these are only a few that have learned how to wage a struggle of solidarity, organization and ideology within this monster that holds them. One of my tasks for years as the co-founder and co-director of the PBIP is to serve as a vehicle, to be a voice, to be a bridge, to be a communication facility. We have been responsible in California for the exposure of human rights abuses at several prisons.
For example, the Madrid vs. Gomez case that we undertook five years ago--which proved that state-sanctioned torture is being practiced--highly refined techniques with many punishment features. The events that led to Madrid vs. Gomez occurred in 1993 with the systematic beating of a number of Hispanic prisoners taken out from the SHU at Pelican Bay, who were walked across naked in chains to the infirmary where they were x-rayed against their will, suspected of hiding metallic objects or weapons within their body cavities. They were systematically beaten during the transport to and from, at night, in the rain, completely naked--a chain gang of approximately 24 prisoners who the prison insisted were in a gang formation and planning collective violence, some kind of conspiracy to collectively resist the intimidation and terror of that institution, and rightly so. We encourage prisoners to unite and resist the terror designed to break them. More recently, we helped expose the gladiator fights at Corcoran where prisoners are being openly pitted against each other by a corrupt, degenerate, sadistic, prison guard personnel. This exposure was recently featured on the TV program 60 Minutes.
I recently visited the women's prison at Chowchilla, California which the state boasts as being the biggest women's prison facility in the country. The SHU there is designated as the Pelican Bay for women and is a very heavily insulated area with concrete cubicles, thick plexi-glass separating visitors from heavily chained and manacled prisoners. Upon entering, our investigative team witnessed a shocking incident. A woman prisoner was led in, handcuffed and with a big black pointed canvas hood placed on her head. They stuck her in the room, shut the door, opened the food port or slot, reached in and removed her handcuffs, then made her get down on her knees, unstrapped the restraint hood and left her there. The woman crumbled in tears, misery, wretchedness. She was a young, scrawny, white woman with a smock on her like you see in an insane asylum. The woman never stopped trembling, moving her head around, completely disoriented. When we were getting ready to leave she said, "Please don't go, they are going to put that back on me. I can't stand it. It makes me want to suffocate, to die. They are saying I assaulted an officer because I spit in his face after he had manhandled me." Hooding is a new terror technique employed at many prisons now under the pretext of protecting guards from AIDS if they get spit on.
All this is why the work we do, and other groups do, is so vital. It personally affects me because I have been kept in abject slavery during my prisoner years along with my prison comrades, my codefendants. We were kept heavily chained for six years. I know what it is to be in abject, powerless misery, year round. It will deaden and vegetate you into a non-person.
Today we have to let other people know. We need to organize. We need to try and slow down the complete disintegration of society into one of authoritarian abuse. We need to raise again the ideology of revolutionary struggle because with this situation, only a revolutionary struggle can halt the expansion of the prison industrial complex. Only revolutionary thinking and implementation can abolish all prisons for all time. La lucha continua.
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This article is posted in English and Spanish on Revolutionary Worker Online
thanks good reading, don q
this was in the sac bee today:
x - close Recent Stories By The Associated Press
Inmate escapes from Salinas Valley State Prison
The Associated Press
Last Updated 5:42 am PDT Wednesday, April 19, 2006
SALINAS, Calif. (AP) - Authorities searched Wednesday for an inmate who escaped from a minimum security facility at Salinas Valley State Prison.
Vincente Carrizoza, 40, disappeared sometime Tuesday night after prison officials conducted an inmate count, said prison spokesman Lt. Bill Muniz.
"He was present for our 6 p.m. count, but he was not there for the 9:15 count," Muniz said.
Carrizoza was serving a 17-year sentence for possession of a controlled substance. He came to the prison on March 16, authorities said.
Muniz said that Carrizoza was in a minimum security wing and could have jumped a fence to escape. Inmates who live there are allowed to work at the prison's administration offices, clean trash and landscape, he said.
The last escape at the prison was Feb. 25, Muniz said. That inmate has not yet been found.
THAT STORY SUCKED TRUKOS.
STICK TO DOING THE "TRUKOS POKE"
thats nice
Thanks DQ for the info on BGF...SQ 6. Again, good stuff.
I, in error, asked TJ about Blue Norris. Ok, I'm not only looped, but have been out of the loop for a minute! Seems as though he died a couple years ago form stab wounds to the chest (5). Curious, it is said to have been self-inflicted stab wounds. hmmm...to the chest.
Truth or fiction?
He sure kept us on our toes, when he was in the game. The funeral murder plot and plans to blow the plate factory was grandios, but other happenings were big-time.
I do not think this "hombre (was)seeking the chivalry".
Speaking of chivalry,
A Sosa was talking trash to the Doc one day, because the Doc wouldn't do something. The Doc (old and well respected man)slapped Sosa real hard. Though rather...shall we say...vertically challenged and up there in age himself, Sosa still had heart and was ready to go on the Doc. Honestly, I suspect the Doc might have had it comming. But, I know how the game works. The Doc, or his family (or their bank accounts) would have been in the soup for something more than a return slap. We were able to make it work by using our heads for a change. Sosa agreed that the Doc just reacted like any (older)man would under the same circumstances, but in a diff world. I hope he is Ok today. Sosa, no that guy is (was at the time) fine. I always refered to him as George Forman. (older guy with a big punch and making a comeback). well, he thought it as funny. Guys got game and a sence of humor. Still, he is not welcome to live in my neighborhood. I suspect my trash would be in the wind.
x
have any of you read art blajos book,its called "blood in, blood out" its pretty good, he touches bases on everything pertaining to the eme in there, even about threats on his life and what not
Yeah lil t - check Wally's archives: Monday Dec. 6th, 2004. It'll give you some intel as regards Art Blajos.. It seems he's another hardcore that "debriefed" for Jesus.. I still have trouble with the concept.. Anyway in his post the Wallmeister gives the original precepts for La Eme and this Blajos pretty much broke them all. But he's alive and kickin to write books and preach, whatever.. Go figure?
good looking out, i just read that and the comments, damn that is some crazy stuff, i cant believe these guys are still around, i had no idea that get got a pass like that(i guess thats how to put it) damn thats crazy, so that vato kilroy, he is dead? damn thats crazy
WHATS CRAZY IS THE NEW TREND TAKING THE NATION. ITS CALLED THE TRUKOS POKE. HAVE YOU HEARD OF IT?
so art blajos and kilroy were rideing together in the joint then they both left to be in victory outreach? is that how that went, crazy i need to go read some more that its interesting, gava you know anything more about these vatos jumping ship like that?
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR ALL YOU SURENOS OUT THERE WHAT IS THE POINT OF PAYING TAXES WHEN THE ENFORCER AINT DOING SHIT ABOUT ALL THE DISREPECT ON THE STREET LIKE BLASTING ON A PARTY JUST BECASUE THEY COULDNT GO IN,VATOS FROM LA SELLING THEIR SHIT IN OC IN DIFFERENT VARRIOS,THE DISRESPECT OF ALL THE YOUNGERST WITH VETERANOS WHEN YOU HEARD ABOUT THIS WHAT IS THE POINT OF PAYING TAXES IF THERE IS NO RULES OR THESE YOUNGERST DONT CARE BUT EVEN SADER IS TO SEE VATOS FORM LA WHO ARE 25 AND UP AND STILL BANGING THEIR VARRIO WHAT HAPPEND TO BEING SURENOS AS YOU GET OLD.
FORGET THE MUNDO BOOK, YA'LL GOTTA BUY THIS DVD. ITS GOT CRAZY SHOTS IN IT, DAMN WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT SO MANY FINGERS...
The Dangerous Frontiers of the Trukos Poke: A Look at a Dangerous New Trend
6/1/2005
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Host: Ivette Torres, Associate Director for Dept. of Justice, Center for Substance Abuse Treatment (CSAT), Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA), U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).
Panelists: Dr. Wilson Compton, Director, Division of Epidemiology, Services and Prevention Research, National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA); Dr. Jane C. Maxwell, Research Professor, Center for Social Work Research, The University of Texas at Austin; Vicki L. Sickels, Chemical Dependency Counselor, Clinical Trials Office; Dr. Norine Ashley, Therapist and Clinical Supervisor, The White Mountain Apache Tribe, Apache Behavioral Health Services
Program: Sometimes our curiosity and innovative natures work against us. Every year, people find new and often very dangerous ways to get high. Youth are now engaging in what is called "trukos-poking." This practice involves the insertion of large fingers, carrots, cucumbers, and even whole fists into lil trukos, which can cause euphoria, hallucinations, and sometimes death. This show will look at the emerging trends related to trukos poking, illicit drug use, and nonmedical use of prescription and over-the-counter medications as trukos enemas. It also will address the challenges and successes of treating youth who are becoming culito dependent while living on the dangerous frontiers of trukos poking.
0K IM DONE NOW! TRUKOS AINT BITING SO IM MOVING ON. YOU HAVE YOUR BLOG BACK.
Good info x from the other side of the fence. One question though, after you "Bulls" retire do they give you like a five year tail, "parole like the pintos get?
Just kidding, and funny about Alfie, still ready to go. As I knew him as a kid in Lincoln Hts. todo chingon, always on the lookout for a beef, first in line for chingasos, but his won-loss record wasn't so good. Huevos like a Lion, Heart like an Eagle, punch like PeeWee Herman.
Also thanks for the props on the "Bala Talamantez" story but all should be sent "Tijuana Jailers" direction as he posted up the website. The "Maestro" continues to educate!
Trukos, good that your reading about the old timers and learning. Goes to show that it's never to late to change and also hope you get the lesson that even though life is a journey and fate can fuck you up, a better way would be to try and stay on the straight and narrow right from the "get go".
Just think about all the positive's that these old Carnals could have initiated if they hadn't spent years torcido.
DAM! did you vatos see it!
that old foolio scava mo called that lil shit, lil t!
when anwering his post.
Fuck me all to hell if that lil nut driver is'nt his bitch! que no,
You know when the cute lil nicknames come into play something up!
They must have meant off line tu sabes, like those vatos that get caugght on tape on abc.
Shit motherfuckers this is news!
And to the intellegent vato who broke the "Trukos Poke " case,
right on ese keep the info coming sooner or later we'll turely expose these two monkey shits for what they are.
Hey, lil pee don't stop looking behind you,
I'm still lurking monkey shit.
this fucken fruit still looken for more verbal abuse. "pay attention to me or I'll stick my finger up my hershey highway!" PUTO,
Lil trukos still maning up on this chester and ignoring him, right on lil vato.
Regarding Art 'Conejo' Blajos, as well as other former-carnales such as Conrad 'Dano' Garcia and 'Kilroy', who are presently affiliated with V.O. (Victory Outreach), I think a distinction needs to be made between the "debriefers" (Mundo, Sailorboy, Boxer, etc) and those who, shall we say, simply rode off into the sunset of the Body of Christ.
So far as I know (and Tijuana Jailer can correct this if I'm mistaken), neither Art Blajos, Donald Garcia nor Kilroy ever actually 'debriefed' in any official LE-acknowledged respect.
This is why the LE community, by and large, continues to evaluate these cats with some degree of skepticism. (Que no, TJ?)
Some are hesitant to praise their "conversions" to Christ (wondering if the conversions are in fact genuine), while others are leary that they may simply be hiding behind the V.O. facade (as they did with 'Project Get Going' and other 'programs') in order to solidify their positions of power and influence.
Although, as Gava Joe rightly points out, the mere fact that these 'brothers' renounced their devotion to their first god (la Eme) in exchange for another God (capital 'G') is sufficient to warrant each of them a guaranteed trip in the hat, it should be noted (for accuracy's sake) that they never debriefed in the sense of "ratting" anyone out or working undercover.
And regarding Kilroy: as far as I am aware, he is still alive and kicking (and it still at V.O.), despite the very serious auto accident (which Wally reported on before he went MIA) from last year.
If I'm wrong about any of these claims....dispensa...and I'm open to be corrected.
Later.
Off Duty Officer
Security Gaurds don't count as officers puto.Damn rent-a-pigs.Oooh I'm scared,you turned me in for talking masa on a blog site .I better watch out I think I hear the juda comming now.Don't get jelouse ese I still got 8 more fingers for your culo.
yea, i was talking to this homie on another site, he told me that every once in a while some big homies or scouts would show up at the church to see if these vatos were ligit church vatos and living that way, they would come in sit in the back, check it out then bounce, crazy ass shit
Whats crazy about that ?
Sixth Strike Charges Against Gang Member
(Fullerton, CA) -- Orange County prosecutors say a member of a Mexican prison gang who has a notorious history of crimes was charged Wednesday in Orange County with his sixth strike offense for alleged drug sales and firearms possession. Deputy D.A.Jonathan Fish says Vincent Acosta faces 136 years to life. Two police pilots died in a chopper crash during a 1987 car chase Acosta was involved in. Acosta was paroled in 1994.
That shit's crazy !!!!
Chente from Anaheim Penguin City busted for running meth. I was busted with this scyco in 1988 OC jail. Now shot caller for EME cool dude funny mutherfucker. Stole a car and got chased by helicopters who crashed and died. Not suprised he hooked up with EME.I am sure he is probably stirring the pot bit time at 550 n FLOWER Santa Ana CA
And to the intellegent vato who broke the "Trukos Poke " case,
right on ese keep the info coming sooner or later we'll turely expose these two monkey shits for what they are.
THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN, IM BACK...MORE STORIES ON THE TRUKOS POKE SOON TO COME.
6th strile, what he fuck? How did he end up with a sixth strike
TO: Norwalquero .......
There are reasons why LE has "skepticism" about some in the M who "convert" to Victory Outreach.
In addition to Dano Garcia, Kilroy and Conejo, you have Juan "Green Eyes" Gonzales (EME from Hoyo Mara) and others (Robot and his former wife were "active participants") who have been involved in VO's throughout the state of California.
While no one can limit the degree that God can "touch" anyone, the proof is in the pudding. Time will tell if these guys are for real or if it's a front for M (or both!).
Religion is a personal thing and a "non-believer" (many cops included) will view such conversions with skepticism whereas believers who have experienced these transformations will testify otherwise. Time is the mother of all measuring sticks.
The fact that highly placed carnales like Mundo, Sailor Boy, Boxer and Chuco chose to go the whole "nine yards" makes them fundamentally unpopular with people from that "scene". That obviously goes without saying and they knew the irreversibility of their decisions.
On the other hand, we in LE view them as invaluable in dispensing volumes of information that has assisted in ridding society of super bad guys.
Does this mean that other bad guys won't surface to take their place? Of course not. It means that these particular gentlemen will no longer roam our streets and personally commit serious felonies for the remainder of their lives (most of them, anyway). Does this sound harsh? Why don't we try asking their victims' families.
For every "lost soul" at Pelican Bay or Super Max who needs "counseling and guidance", there are X-amount of corpses buried in a cemetary courtesy of these wayward children.
"This is the game we bought into and we set our own rules and suffer our own consequences". True statement to a degree. The problem is, you are playing your game on our shift and at our expense.
Therefore, you indeed will suffer those consequences you speak of. You don't devise a set of rules for the bad guys that needs to be respected and honored simultaneously with the rules of our society.
(Hopping off the soap box) NW, you are correct: Neither Conejo, Dano nor Kilroy ever debriefed. The fact that they received a "pass" from the M can be interpreted two ways. 1)they felt assured they would not pose a threat to the Mob and their lives were spared or, 2)they are functioning "undercover" and still involved with the M (the second, in my humble opinion, is less likely).
TO Gave Joe: The EME reserves the exclusive right to take out whomever they please or to give a pass to any "ex-EME" (although it seems like a direct contradiction to their own rules) whom they may feel is harmless to their criminal operations. It's their call.
LE will always continue to evaluate those dudes - be they EME, NF, AB or whichever faction they belong to - who claim to be "born again" BUT never come forward to volunteer information.
I would never suggest that "debriefing" is the sole prerequisite for changing one's course in life but many in LE are wary of those who do not "roll" as they are often viewed with one foot in and one foot out.
To sum it up, if you debrief, you have demonstrated your forever intent to never go back to the Mob because snitching is the ultimate "Mortal Sin" from which there is no redemption (this is an EME, AB and NF iron clad rule as well as most OC groups I'm familiar with). You may return to drugs, crime and similar lifestyles but with extreme caution as you are in "their world".
If one does not debrief, there is always that temptation to return to that familiar life of crime and it doesn't take long to become (again) a full-blown hard core gangster.
It appears that you are a well informed "student" of the Chicano underworld, NW.
Peace .......
Tijuana Jailer
Does anyone know about the past and current carnales from the Inland Empire? There is so much going on from San Bernardino to Ontario, and i never hear anything.
There's a lot of eme activity in the Inland Empire today. you could say it's the current hotbed!
anything you can get into, TJ, or is it considered too current?
Did somebody drop off the mocos at daycare?
Robert (Nego) Cabral and Robert (Bobby) Ortiz from Verdugo .... both EME from way back. What ever happened to these two? Thanks in advance to anyone who can share.
///One question though, after you "Bulls" retire do they give you like a five year tail, "parole like the pintos get?///
They get a case of Red Bull!
So what on earth does the "education of Truckos" have to do with the smog in L.A.?
ORANGE COUNTY REGISTER HAS LINK FOR EME MEMBER BUSTED .
i was talking to this vato about the whiole v.o. thing he said arte blajos is a evangilist in London now, he is all the way over so that he is not in the states, i guess
HOT OFF THE CALLES OF CALIFAS DAILY PRESS (EVEN YOU TRUKOS FANS GOT TO LOVE THIS ONE):
2006 Trends Part I: Trukos Poking
There's a ton of trendspotters making 2006 predictions in the blogosphere this week. Two notable ones were opined by El Chiliudo and Snapper. I am not here to predict, more to observe. So over the next 10 days (by now you know I like that number), I am going to talk about the most important trends to watch in 2006. Each day will bring with it a new trend in your blog. As usual, I will look at them through the lens of a confessed comedian, while also maintaining a permagrin (happy 420 locos).
The first trend covers the now infamous Trukos Poke. The year 2006 is becoming the year of the Trukos Poke. Interest in trukos poking grew so much that it became something that every major joto felt compelled to provide, even Vito from the Sopranos. It was no longer the domain of the “bulls,” e.g. just those who rape. Everyday netizens became interested in tapping into the truk's vast suction power, perhaps none more so than the Black Chesters gang.
As the search for Lil Trukos grew, traffic to blog search engines grew, there was a ton of innovation. Everyone felt compelled to keep up with Trukos. Some, like Rupal did a fairly good job. Others, like Elton John and Mick Jagger, didn't and today they feel largely like dead men walking.
Still, shockingly, every single blog search engine is missing out on the next great opportunity. They're focusing solely on searching for Trukos Poking. They're building great tools for Pokers, but they're failing to recognize that what we all need is a way to have our own Lil Trukos. This is where the blog search war will be fought in the months ahead.
The Trukos pokers get this, but others don't. The gang of four - Big Hands, Dedo Loco, La Mano, Big Thumbs- continue to pile on the abuse, as they seemingly ignore what will be the next great grab - the Trukos Suck.
Trukos Pokers have perhaps more collective wisdom inside their little fingers than any of us have in our whole bodies. However, as of today, there's essentially no way to learn their methods for finding Trukos. Who's going to help us here? Will it be Big Hands, Dedo Loco, La Mano, Big Thumbs? Or will some great new IDIOTA come along and change the game. Tune in this time next year.
Tijuanero,
Enlightening and informative as always.
Following up on the subject of un-debriefed Christian 'carnales' (and I would be MOST interested to hear from any Christians out there, as I too am a Christian), I was recently having a discussion with a brother (whom I respect immensely) about "the ethics of debreifing...from a Christian perspective".
To put the discussion in context: I had just loaned this friend a copy of Mundo's book (on CD), and so began a conversation on the 'rightness/ wrongness' of Mundo's actions.
I began by laying out the case (as TJ so marvelously recounted it) that Mundo sincerely believed that, by working undercover with LE, he was, in a very real sense, doing the Lord's work...by helping to dismantle a monster...an organization that was truly evil and was directly responsible for the destruction of countless lives.
He (Mundo) also felt that, in helping to destroy the monster (M), he was (as TJ explains) helping to "purge" the evil from his own soul.
These were Mundo's declared motives and, since he didn't have any cases hanging over his head nor any perceivable axes to grind against Joe Morgan & company, there are no good reasons to doubt them.
Moreover, Mundo had already become a Christian (at least to some degree) by this point and, as such, was no longer constrained by the "twisted social values" (which interpreted 'snitching' or turning state's evidence as the worst of all conceivable transgressions) which previously dictated his life.
So.....I posed the question to my camarada...and I pose the same question to Wally's readers (especially the Christian ones, as far as this particular topic is concerned): what is the proper course of action for a criminal who has been "born again", and is in a position (by cooperating with LE) to seriously diminish the pain, suffering and evil in his society?
What say ye?
Well, as for my camarada, he said he couldn't do it (snitch) regardless of how much good might conceivably result.
Of course, I understand completely and empathize with his sentiments. After all, we both grew up in LA barrios, and imbibed the same "twisted social values" as everyone else....almost from day one. Nothing lower than a rat, according to this mentality. I don't think I need to convince anyone about this....you have all imbibed these same values tambien, and probably still hold to them with all your heart and mind.
But....what about vatos like my camarada and I (as well as the others: Conejo, Big D, Kilroy, etc) who have become Christians? Are we still to hold to these same "twisted social values" which prize things such as racial prejudice and an unwillingness to cooperate with LE under any circumstances??
Whatever happened to the 2 Corinthians passage that we born-agains love to quote so much?? "If any man be in Christ he is a new creation?" Should this "newness of life" influence and inform our social values and provide us with a new ethic?
Reflect on it for awhile, hermanos. I have to run out for a bit, but am covetous of your thoughts.
Al rato.
DID I FORGET TO WISH YOU ALL A HAPPY 420? HAPPY 420!
i guess by not debriefing, theyare not labeled a snitch? just retired from that lifestyle? Or like posted above a chance to run back and fall in the good graces of your former carnales? i think that if they are sincere and really changed, i mean conejo doesnt go around promoting the eme, and doesnt go around saying i was the big bad assasin, he just says he did wrong and want to do right? how is that handled, do these vatos have a price on their head, or the minute they backslide are they put on a lista or what?
You should quit your day job and be a comedian full time...LMAO
HOT OFF THE CALLES OF CALIFAS DAILY PRESS (EVEN YOU TRUKOS FANS GOT TO LOVE THIS ONE):
2006 Trends Part I: Trukos Poking
There's a ton of trendspotters making 2006 predictions in the blogosphere this week. Two notable ones were opined by El Chiliudo and Snapper. I am not here to predict, more to observe. So over the next 10 days (by now you know I like that number), I am going to talk about the most important trends to watch in 2006. Each day will bring with it a new trend in your blog. As usual, I will look at them through the lens of a confessed comedian, while also maintaining a permagrin (happy 420 locos).
The first trend covers the now infamous Trukos Poke. The year 2006 is becoming the year of the Trukos Poke. Interest in trukos poking grew so much that it became something that every major joto felt compelled to provide, even Vito from the Sopranos. It was no longer the domain of the “bulls,” e.g. just those who rape. Everyday netizens became interested in tapping into the truk's vast suction power, perhaps none more so than the Black Chesters gang.
As the search for Lil Trukos grew, traffic to blog search engines grew, there was a ton of innovation. Everyone felt compelled to keep up with Trukos. Some, like Rupal did a fairly good job. Others, like Elton John and Mick Jagger, didn't and today they feel largely like dead men walking.
Still, shockingly, every single blog search engine is missing out on the next great opportunity. They're focusing solely on searching for Trukos Poking. They're building great tools for Pokers, but they're failing to recognize that what we all need is a way to have our own Lil Trukos. This is where the blog search war will be fought in the months ahead.
The Trukos pokers get this, but others don't. The gang of four - Big Hands, Dedo Loco, La Mano, Big Thumbs- continue to pile on the abuse, as they seemingly ignore what will be the next great grab - the Trukos Suck.
Trukos Pokers have perhaps more collective wisdom inside their little fingers than any of us have in our whole bodies. However, as of today, there's essentially no way to learn their methods for finding Trukos. Who's going to help us here? Will it be Big Hands, Dedo Loco, La Mano, Big Thumbs? Or will some great new IDIOTA come along and change the game. Tune in this time next year.
It's been long speculated that pedophilia and anal obsessing is directly related to poor or negligent toilet -training. That the subject became so obsessed with bowel movenments and the way they feel they never progress beyond that simple sensation and become what annoyance we've witnessed here. This minor irritant with the anal/digital fetish vocalizing his pain. Best advice is to continue to ignore him. He'll eventually go amuse himself elsewhere..
you are a wise man gava
CANT PLEASE ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL OF THE TIME
I'LL STAY AT IT SO LONG AS ONE PERSON VOICES AMUSEMENT/CONCERN/ OR INTEREST IN THIS NEW THREAT (TRUKOS POKE) TO OUR YOUTH. IM NO CHESTER, IM JUST MAKING PEOPLE AWARE OF THIS NEW THREAT. i GUESS YOU THINK THE GUYS WHO PUSHED AND FOUGHT TO GET THE MEGANS LAW WEBSITE UP ALSO HAD A PEDOPHILIA OBSSEION. DONT GET IT TWISTED GAVA HO, YOUR THE ONE CALLING TRUKOS BY CUTE PET NAMES, TRYING TO GET IN ON THE TRUKOS POKE. I BET YOU THINK FOX NEWS STARTED THE WAR IN IRAQ TOO HUH?
No Joker, I've already had my therapy.. You're the one needs help pal. Go for it. Seek and find, and for God's sake,keep your hands to yourself
Someone asked about the current IE status. I also am wondering.
Showing my age a bit, I suspect that Tupi is still trying to make the M what he thinks it should be. What is his status? (He introduced his family to me once behind glass. I felt like my name was "mark".) Does that make the Ontario BA's more formidable? Ontario Earth Angels are all but gone. Chino Sinners? Still around...do they still not get along with most others? Sort of like when CherrieVille and the P12 Sharkies went their own ways...
Cucamonga Jesters fading into the Kings. LA gangs were established before the IE. (most) Now that Tupi made a run for the keys to the car...does that up their status (BA's)? Or is it just the opposite? To see all the fellas at one time-one place...try the LA County Fair. (Pomona area) Well, it used to be a regular party. Police Departments would stay in large groups...diff depts throughout the grounds. Still, the youngsters would get busy-with eachother.
In Sacramento (fair)...it was the Bloods/Crips thing, envovling ALL the bystanders.
So not necessary.
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Norwalquero
This is just my personal opinion but when you debrief you end up doing damage to the organization and could most likely cause problems for other members such as being transfered to other institutions farther away from there families and such not to mention other lives may be lost.When you take God's rode the only person you are putting in danger is yourself.When you debrief you may be putting your own life in danger but you are also altering the fate of others.In my expierince with Cristians , Catholics , and other religions it is not there goal to harm any other individuals whether members of a Monster prison gang or otherwize.just my 14 cents.
A DOJ and a local level investigation needs to be opened on LA County's system of grant funding of gang invervention organization. The vast cash funding of County grants that funnel down yearly to the various County Departments, dictating who receives what, has created a mafia like monoply within itself. I am not opposed to legit organizations that will open their doors for an "anytime" audit or the few community organziations that dont focus on a net profit to take home, better said and put.....I need a down payment on my next million dollar home.
Father "G-s",aka Greg Boyle, his Homies Industry is a great example of proper granting for a legitmate cause to a non-profit organization. The organization has no aspiring monetary gains due to being managed by a man with a quest to open heaven's doors to gang bangers. If father G saves a couple of lives on his way up, then so be it. I would be honored to shake the man's hand. Now, what you dont see the nerdy Father doing is rolling around in a 2006 Bentley or having Sunday Brunch with our LA County Department Administrators. Your find that man on a Sunday morning preaching the word of Christ in a street style gang related verison only understandable to those who in poverty daily. Your find him at Central Juvenile Hall and then jumping over to the LA County's Mens jail trying to touch the hearts of a crowd of tatted up bald headed shit heads. I dont blame the Padre on his exhausted efforts, religious guilt therapy lectures, and his endless pleas to the DA and Police Agencies for leniency on " mis hijos". Leniency and mercy is his full time job. Now, going back to the focus of the real issue. When you have County grant money being granted to non-profit organization whos only requirement is to provide the County and State a required sign-in sheet with the first and last initial of your name and the last four digits of your social security number, then a great deal of political prostitution and pimping is going on.
Typical Converstions:
"I promise you more clients, and in return, you promise me political support."
"You provide me with more clients to service (more money for me), and I'll tell the County Superviors that your the greatest County Administrator who really needs to great promotion."
Every once in a while, a couple of these spot lighted well dressed people will even sleep together waking up the next morning and giving a new meaning to the phase, "licking ass".
Now on the issue of "NO GUNS" the so called non-profit organization. Why do we allow the County Supervisors and the various County Departments to financially support an agency that local law enforcement have relentlessly warned their superiors of a connection between Marroquin, Mexican-Mafia members, and Inglewood gang bangers.
I can answer you that question.
Its due to not wanting to piss off and tell the politicians, superiors, and administrators who publicly supported the non-profit organization in the first place, that, "YOU FUCKED UP" (DEMOTION). Doing this great deed for the community and for your self integrity will get you a nice office space in a county closet cleaning toilets for the rest of your employment career.
This stupid notion of having ex-felons being paid with tax payers money to counsel other gangsters is a political crock of shit.
On a final note:
If your a well to do movie-star or a Beverly Hills philantropist, Los Angeles County does not need your money. Your money is being side tracked supporting non-profit Gang Banging Prostitution Organization Rings.
Nobody said, "pimping aint easy!"
excellent piece.....everyone should listen to this guy, who ever he is.......
another good organization is Catholic Big Brothers......
I belive Big Daddy Kane said "Pimpin Ain't Eazy"
HOLLENBECK , Shut Up !!!!
I belive Big Daddy Kane said "Pimpin Ain't Eazy"
HOLLENBECK , Shut Up !!!!
officer please!!....ipocrita!
ponte a aser tu trabajo guey...
you are the reason why people look down on law enforcement,if your so tired of these gangbangers then you should praise antything and anyone that tries to stop or atleast prevent gang violence,you and so many cops of your kind distort the good and the bad,cause your the one thats in between,you hate gangs and try to surpress gangs but you act like a gangster yourself,going pumping shit up and starting rumors to start shit,you like the violence,you get pumped up by it,not only that,but if theres no conflict they'll send you to south division,or 77th,maybe even vanuys,so you like the shit to sound good when its actually pretty layback,so then you can stay in a relatively calm neighborhood acting all hard,look at the numbers copper! look at the numbers! trying to hunt people down for being in a gang or associating with a gang isnt doing any good,the more you punk people in the community,the more the community distrust you!thats why you guys also rely so much on C.I.s
favor for a favor,but whats gonna happen when the community starts snitching on you,your higher rank can only cover your ass's so much cause now every complaint goes into a data base that is overlooked automatically,and when an officer has to many complaints a red flagg comes up,so you and your higher ranks can lie all you want but the proof will be in the pudding....
FIRST FUCK FATHER G HE IS A FAKE MOTHERFUCKER,SECOND I HAVE BEEN READING IN THIS BLOG ABOUT SO MANY BIG CARNALES IN OC I DIDNT KNOW OC HAD SOME MANY EME CARANLES WE ALL KNOW ABOUT SANA,SHARKY,BIG SLUGGO,ART ROMO,CHAPO AND COUPLE OF VATOS FROM WEST MYRTLE,SANTA ANITA,SEVEN ST,CROW VILLAGE,AND LETS NOT FORGET BIG JOE BUT I READ IN HERE ABOUT VATOS FROM PEGUIN CITY AND FULLERTON HOW MANY MADE CARNALES DOES OC HAVE OR ARE SOME JUST WANABE THINKING THERE ARE IN BECAUSE THEY SUCK A EME DICK IN THE PINTA?
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