Saturday, June 17, 2006

WASSUP?
It's nice to know you've been missed. Despite my absence, the hits to the site continue to go up. This is puzzling and weird and it may prove that a blogger doesn't need to post a lot to keep people coming back. But unlike most blogs, this one is more than opinions and rants. It started out with the intention of providing the kind of information you weren't getting from "legit" media. And you all keep coming back for more, even if I'm not there to provide it. This tells me there's a desire for this kind of info. The question is, why won't the big media fill that yawning hole?

For instance, the LA DA's office just got a conviction on the last of eight Avenues homies in a case that has been dragging through the courts since 2001. This is the biggest Eme murder conspiracy case ever filed by the DA's office in its entire history and there hasn't been one word written about it. There have been bigger Federal cases against the Emeros but nothing this big in the state system. I can understand the big national media overlooking it, but what's the local media's excuse.? The LA Times did a huge investigative story on crooked Las Vegas politicians and judges. The paper will apparently go out of state to dig up stories but won't walk across First Street from the Times office to the CCB to cover something of local importance. Does the Times care more about Vegas than LA? You be the judge.

I'll cover some of the more interesting aspects of this case next week after the penalty phase. Stay tuned.

On another subject, I just finished reading Robert Morrill's self-published book, "The Mexican Mafia -- The Story" and I wish I could say it was a great book. It's an okay book, good for some fact mining and background information. The problem is that Morrill isn't a writer. And he's a worst typist. The book is riddled with typos, run-ons, bad punctuation and some whoppers. For instance, when he meant to say "for all intents and purposes" he says "for all intensive purposes." He uses "perspective" for "respective," and is guilty of numerous grammatical sins. Just bad. Frankly, Mundo Mendoza's book is way better written and more literate in every respect. But there's so little written about the Eme that you're missing out if you don't buy Moco Morrill's book. The stuff on the Monterey Park PD Task Force is worth the price of admission. If you're an obsessive completist like I am, you need to know this stuff.

And in case you missed it, the US Attorney unsealed an indictment in San Diego against Raul Leon and 35 others in a giant Eme RICO case. It was the culmination of a 21-month investigation into Eme operations in SD. The FBI called the operation "In The Hat." Those whacky Feds.

More later. Actually sooner than later.

190 comments:

Anonymous said...

Welcome back Wally.

What's the word on the much needed retribution regarding the Venice atrocity committed by the mayates? When are the Feds going to start handing out indictments against the tintos? They seem to have a thing for the Whites and Hispanics.

Mr. Maravilloso said...

Saludos, my dahlings, and you know who you are!
C'mon, let's mingle
So nice to see you. Dahling, I've got to tell you something
And I don't say this to everybody
You look mahvelous. Absolutely mahvelous! (Mahvelous!)

You know, my father used to say to me, don't be a schnook.
It's not how you feel, it's how-You-Look!"
He was mahvelous!
But you, dahling, hmmmm, you look mahvelous!
Absolutely mahvelous!

And this is from my tongue which is deep inside my body
It's better to look good than to feel good.
I've got to mambo!
I look mahvelous! Absolutely mahvelous! (Wonderful! Mahvelous!)

You know dahling, I love dancing.
Dancing to me is like standing still.
Only faster... you know what I'm saying to you? (Mahvelous! Wonderful!)
I'm kidding you. I'm a kidder!
Let's you and I go back to my private hideaway.
You'll put on soft music.
I'll put on my Spider-Man pyjamas.

Anonymous said...

Wally, it would have been nice to have been served a porterhouse while realistically expecting a T-bone instead you give us the equivalent of two for 98 cent AM/PM cheese burgers?? I'm turning in my badge!!

Broderick Crawford said...

"Whenever the laws of any state are broken a duly authorized organization swings into action. It may be called the state police, state troopers, militia, the rangers, or the highway patrol. These are the stories of the men whose training skill, and courage have enforced and preserved our state laws". Just so we all know who is in charge here!

JIM said...

By Onell R. Soto
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER
June 17, 2006

A former San Diegan and other leaders of the Mexican Mafia prison gang led a massive crime syndicate in Southern California that ordered murders and controlled street gangs, according to a sweeping federal indictment announced yesterday.



EARNIE GRAFTON / Union-Tribune
A poster of “the black hand,” a Mexican Mafia insignia, was displayed yesterday at a news conference held by U.S. Attorney Carol Lam.
They ran organized crime out of the state's highest-security prison through violence, drug dealing and “taxing” Latino street gangs, including many in San Diego, for protection and guidance, authorities said.

Investigators in San Diego unsealed an indictment against 36 people, 16 of whom are already in prison. All but four of the others were arrested yesterday, officials said.

U.S. Attorney Carol Lam said her office is using anti-racketeering laws to prosecute 22 members and associates of the prison gang. The remaining 14 people were indicted on drug conspiracy charges in connection with the gang's activities, but not racketeering.

“The Mexican Mafia has infected our prisons and now is poisoning our neighborhoods,” Lam said.

Leading the conspiracy, according to court papers, was former San Diegan Raul Leon, 41, a Mexican Mafia leader imprisoned at Pelican Bay, the high-security prison 370 miles north of San Francisco.



Giovanni Bernal
Informants have told the FBI he is among the top three Mexican Mafia leaders, an agent said. Leon founded one of San Diego's street gangs, according to the charges.

Leon is serving a life sentence for murder. He also assaulted a San Quentin prison guard with a homemade knife in 1986.

There have been previous crackdowns by federal and California officials on the Mexican Mafia, which officials say has about 150 members who can order murders and about 1,000 associates who carry out their orders.



Jose Alvarez
This is the first time in San Diego that federal officials have used organized-crime provisions of federal law against the gang. A similar racketeering case in Los Angeles led to 39 convictions and two acquittals in 2001.

Federal charges under the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt OrganizationsACT, also known as RICO, have been used against other prison gangs as well, said former San Quentin warden and prison consultant Dan Vasquez.

“It's been successful in the past,” Vasquez said. “They've gone after Nuestra Familia. They've gone after the Aryan Brotherhood.”



Steve Perry
However, he questioned the effectiveness of such prosecutions, saying there's only so much punishment authorities can seek against criminals who are already in prison.

“They get transferred to other federal penitentiaries,” he said. “All it seems to do is spread the seed.”

Federal officials disagree, saying that moving them out of state diminishes their power.

Although many of those arrested are already serving life prison terms for state crimes, conviction on federal charges would allow authorities to send them to prisons in other parts of the country and sap their strength, said Dan Dzwilewski, head of the San Diego FBI office.

“The Mexican Mafia does not have the influence in the federal system that they have in the California penal system,” he said.

The physical separation makes a difference, he said, because these gang leaders, locked up for 23 hours a day, have developed esoteric ways of communicating, such as tapping in code on the prison plumbing system.

Mexican Mafia leaders in prison also are able to issue orders through letters and to have drugs smuggled to them, according to prosecutors.

FBI agents, working with local anti-gang task forces with members from several law enforcement agencies, led a 21-month investigation that found the Mexican Mafia has muscled in on San Diego County gangs and drug dealers, Dzwilewski said.

They intercepted more than 30,000 phone calls and thousands of letters sent from prisons to mail drops in San Diego County, he said.

Among the allegations in the racketeering indictment are the slayings of two people: Alvaro Hernandez, a San Diegan shot at close range in the Alta Vista neighborhood last year, and Jabila Barragan, a prison inmate stabbed in Susanville four years ago.

Hernandez was killed July 28 after falsely claiming to be a Mexican Mafia member and extorting gang members and drug dealers. Barragan was killed June 24, 2002, after Leon approved his slaying, according to prosecutors.

In a related case, prosecutors charged three men in connection with the shooting of a 12-year-old boy in San Marcos. The boy survived.

Leon, who has the word “Mafia” tattooed on his belly, told Reuters news service last year that his influence spreads far and wide.


“We look after a lot of people, whether in here or out there,” he said in the interview. “A lot of friends look after me. I'm a lovable, huggable-type of guy.”
Prosecutors said he and other Mexican Mafia leaders at Pelican Bay profited from drug dealing in San Diego County and elsewhere by having cash from drug sales deposited into their prison accounts.

Gang members in San Diego sent money, $100 at a time, to those accounts, according to the indictment, which noted Leon had $21,777 in his inmate account before it was frozen.

According to the conspiracy laid out in the 70-page racketeering indictment:

Mexican Mafia members exert their influence inside federal and state prisons through violence and the threat of violence.

Members and their associates remain loyal to the gang whether in or out of prison, and organize Hispanic street gangs throughout Southern California, particularly San Diego County.

“The Mexican Mafia exerts control over all Southern California street gangs,” said Todd Robinson, the federal prosecutor leading the racketeering case.

Local gang members outside prison have an incentive to cooperate, because if they don't, they risk being assaulted, and they do not want members of their gang inside the prison to be assaulted.

Gang members and drug dealers who cooperate with the Mexican Mafia pay a “tax” to members of the prison gang. Those who refuse to pay are threatened with murder.

David Bost, a prosecutor and gang expert at the San Diego District Attorney's Office, said the charges are one battle in a lengthy war.

“While there is definitely a hierarchy, there is no well-defined leader where if you get rid of that leader, the entire organization falls into disarray,” he said. “It's a many-headed beast.”

The FBI released pictures of three of the four fugitives in the case. Two men, Steve Perry and Jose Alvarez, were indicted on drug conspiracy charges, and a third man, Giovanni Bernal, is wanted in connection with the shooting of the 12-year-old boy. Officials did not identify the fourth fugitive.


http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/20060617-9999-1n17mafia.html

JIM said...

This May, 2000 article develops as an interesting backdrop to the previous article.

The Mexican Mafia
And The Battle For Tijuana

By John William Tuohy
John William Tuohy is a writer who lives in Washingon, D.C.



It was a gruesome sight. Looking down in the ditch off the side of a rural road, it was difficult to separate the remnants of the three dead bodies from the red clay of the ground. The lawmen were rigid with death. They had been tortured and their skulls had been crushed by a 3-1/2 ton truck.

The Tijuana police claimed the men had died as a result of a car accident. But the murder of the three federal Mexican narcotics agents were revenge killings for the April arrest of the much feared Arellano Felix drug cartels alleged financial controller, Jesus "El Chuy" Labra, who is described as the cartels "Godfather" and financial wizard.

Right after the gruesome murder of the three narcotics officer, the cartel, which is in its final death throws, brought the world's attention to Tijuana again when the city's police chief, Alfredo de la Torre, was murdered by four gunmen, who sprayed his car with over 100 bullets. The gunmen were allegedly acting on orders from a drug lord based in the northwestern state of Sinaloa. The murder came just two days after Mexican President Ernesto Zedillo issued a new call to crack down on the cartels. The killing was the Arellano Felix gang's answer to the challenge. Mob hit men gunned down Tijuana's previous police chief and the new chief has three bodyguards, one more than de la Torre. The local newspaper editor has survived one drive-by assassination attempt that killed one of his bodyguards. Currently, 10 armed men now guard his house.

The murders and attempted murders were followed up in late April with the killing of Williams Roman Garcia, head of the state judicial police's investigation's unit. He was shot dead while driving a pickup truck in Culiacan, the state capital, by gunmen who used AK-47 assault rifles, the weapon of choice of Mexican drug cartels.

In the past, the cartels have attempted a daylight car jacking of the Presidents eldest son and a newly appointed federal police chief, who had promised to oust corrupt police officials, was gassed in his sleep and left brain damaged. In 1993, assassins working for the Tijuana cartel killed Cardinal Juan Jesus Posadas Ocampo and six others at the Guadalajara airport. Four state police officers were later accused of acting as the killers' bodyguards. Luis Donaldo Colosio, the handpicked successor of then-President Carlos Salinas de Gortari, was widely regarded as an honest reformer. As a result, he was killed at a Tijuana rally. A few weeks later, the Tijuana police chief who was investigating the possibility that state police were involved in Colosio's murder was also assassinated.

The violent border city of Tijuana is home to the busiest border crossing on Earth, and is the primary main port of entry for drugs into the States and is also the center of operation for the Arellano Felix cartel.

Since 1985 the Arellano Felix they have evaded the law through a web of corrupt US and Mexican officials, and as a result, the mob's leadership has passed the normal ten year life expectancy of most Mexican drug lords.

Another reason the gang has survived as long as it has, is that until recently, the US and Mexican governments were concentrating on the cocaine-trafficking Gulf Cartel which is entranced in Ciudad Juarez. However, its Godfather, Amado Carrillo, died on a Mexico City surgeon's table several years ago, the victim of a botched liposuction. After that, the government's attention shifted to the Arellano Felix cartel.

The unique aspect of the Arellano Felix is that it's highly organized and could continue to operate under the leadership of second string players, when the currant leaders are jailed, which, is what is happening.

Ismael "El Mayel" Higuera Guerrero, the Arellano Felix cartel's second in command and reputed head of operations was arrested as a result of an anonymous tip from a neighbor who was fed up with loud partying and pistol-firing at a house near the town of Ensenada in Baja California state. The police believe Guerrero was in charge of drug smuggling, executions, kidnapping's and bribery.

As two policemen approached the house where Guerrero was hiding, near the town of Ensenada in Baja California state, they were fired upon. A heavily armed squad from the Army's anti-drug squad were called in and stormed the house while under fire from Guerrero, who was hiding on the second floor, firing a rifle. Police tossed tear gas into the house and Guerrero was arrested for the 1993 murder of a member of the Mexican attorney general's office who had tried to arrest him, and for drug trafficking.

While we might be watching the end of the beginning of the end for the Arellano-Felix drug cartel, it's doubtful that we will ever be able to stop the flow of dope from Mexico into the US. The odds are against us. We share a 2,100 mile border with Mexico, a frontier that is the transit route for more than half the cocaine consumed in the United States. Worse yet, Mexico is a major marijuana producer and an increasingly important producer of heroin and methamphetamines.

And even if the US and Mexican governments can win back Tijuana for the forces of light, there's still Mexicali, another border town that is the center for another league drug traffickers, just as violent as the Arellano Felix. Mexican authorities have also discovered a new, well organized, drug trafficking mob smuggling heroin into the United States. The new outfit is thought to operate out of the central Mexican state of Zacatecas. The government also suspects that this new group is also operating drug laboratories and "cut up", garage's where cars are altered to hide drugs for transport.

As a result of the increased pressure on the Mexican boarders, the South and Central American drug cartels are said to be switching their smuggling routes back to the tried and true Caribbean and Panama. However, Mexico is still a major producer of marijuana, opium poppy and methamphetamines.

The largestpoint working against the United States is the fact that Mexico's police forces are distinguished for their corruption. Police commanders allegedly charge junior officers "quotes" or a percentage of the bribes they expect them to take every week. One former Mexican Attorney General estimated that at least half of Mexico's federal police chiefs and attorney generals receive illegal payoffs from drug dealers and said that bribes make police chief posts so lucrative, that some candidates pay $1 to $2 million just to get hired.

US authorities say that the ruthless Arellano Felix drug cartel owns hundreds of federal, municipal and state police are on the outfit's payroll which comes to the millions of dollars each month. The expense is still only a drop in the bucket when compared to the billions of dollars the mob makes through selling cocaine, marijuana, methamphetamines and heroin.

The cartel is allegedly led by brothers Ramon Eduardo, Benjamin and Javier Arellano Felix. Ramon Eduardo is on the U.S. FBI's "Ten Most Wanted" list. The gang is blamed for hundreds of executions over the past ten years in the Tijuana and San Diego areas.

Jorge Francisco Miranda, head of confiscated goods at the federal Attorney General's Office, the PRG, Mexico's top agency in combating the multibillion dollar drug trade, failed to heed a summons to appear before investigators, who now believe he is either dead or has fled the country.

Miranda's boss, Juan Manuel Izabal, was found dead in his car on March 8 with a 9-mm pistol by his side in what the PGR determined was a suicide. A few days before his death, officials discovered $700,000 in a strongbox in Izabal's name at a Citibank branch in Mexico. Other safety deposit boxes in his name contained a total of $1.6 million in cash.

Izabal left suicide notes saying the origin of his wealth was "difficult to explain", but denied the money came from the Mexican Mafia.

Police are also investigating dozens of "phantom" workers on the PGR payroll which was managed by Izabal. Miranda and Izabal worked closely together controlling millions of dollars worth of goods seized from the drug traffickers.

Federal agents recently attempted to pull over a car known to be carrying drugs, only to find out that the car was being escorted by the local police who fired on the agents, causing a gun battle that left five dead.

But the violence and corruption also reaches into the highest points of power in Mexico.

Army General Gutierrez Rebollo, former head of Mexico's anti-drug effort was recently convicted to 71 years in prison promoting the transportation of cocaine for organized crime and for accepting bribes from the powerful Juarez drug cartel who used the General to crack down on its rivals.

The former Mexican president's brother, Raul Salinas de Gortari, has been arrested on charges of having ordered and financed the assassination of Jose Francisco Ruiz Massieu, the second highest ranking member of an opposition party.

The case turned to the bizarre when the FBI in Newark New Jersey arrested the brother of the slain leader and a former chief investigator in the case, Mario Ruiz Massieu, who is also a former Mexican Deputy Attorney General

Massieu was fleeing with a ticket to Madrid, $40,000 in cash, and $10 million more stashed in European bank accounts. He was charged with obstructing his own investigation into his brother's murder and taking bribes from the drug cartels in exchange for protection.

Other high placed government officials suspected of having ties to the Mexican Mafia, is president's secretary of communications and transportation and the minister of agriculture, whose son is widely reputed to have ties to the Tijuana drug cartel.

And if you think this is a problem that's only south of the boarder, well, think again. The Mexican Mobs are exploding growth all over the United States as well. From Manhattan to East LA, gangs like the Mexican Boys, Los Vatos Locos, Los Niños, the Crazy Homies and the El Esquadrón, with membership in the hundreds, rule with unquestioned authority and with an estimated 200,000 illegal young Mexican men in the city, there's no shortage of recruits.

The emergence of ethnic street gangs is almost an American tradition, but it's the level and frequency of violence of the Mexican gangs that separates them from the Irish, Jewish and Italian gangs of the past. In Brooklyn, New York, two Mexican men were brutally murdered, shot and stabbed, after trying to enter a christening party. When his uncle came to his aid, he was beaten, bound and blindfolded, taken to a building basement, beaten with a baseball bat and sodomized at knife point and then had his throat slit with a switchblade.

Ten members of the dreaded Los Niños Malos (The Mean Children) were convicted of a gang raping an 18-year-old girl, a member of the gang's female counterpart, Las Niñas Malas, because she was suspected of having an affair with a member of a rival gang.

In Los Angeles, police estimate that there are nearly 41,000 Mexican gang members who are suspected of committing 40 murders in six months.

The so called California Mexican Mafia, the oldest and wealthiest of the gangs, was first organized in late 1950s by inmates from several barrios who were locked away together. Today, the outfit has an estimated 1,200 to perhaps 1,600 members, with an additional 400 to 500 behind bars where new recruits are taken. The organization has controlled narcotics' distribution, gambling and prostitution at most California and Arizona state prisons and large portions of Los Angeles and southern California.

In 1996, the Mexican Mafia allegedly extorted film Actor Edward James Olmos, whose film "American Me" angered the mob's leadership and there was some concern over his safety after the films release, when two former gang members who acted as consultant to the movie were killed.

The 1992 film, which Olmos directed and starred in, is the harsh story of a Mexican Mafia leader being sodomized and killed by his own comrades. Olmos denies that he handed over money and real estate to the gangsters, but Police have long suspected that the actor was targeted by the gangs.

Currently, the relationship between the Mexican-based drug cartels and the enormous Mexican-American gangs is tenuous, but, recently, the FBI, using the RICO act, broke up a ring of Mexican thugs, working with the cartels, who were attempting to organize drug trafficking among hundreds of Mexican and South American street gangs in Southern California.

Anonymous said...

Danm its good to hear from you my man.
All has been well lets say, a big CLUSTER FUCK....
And i'm sure it'll revert soon, but as for now the story on the eme trials and arrest was a good note to start on.
I hope we can keep it going in a good direction, at least for awhile que no.

JIM said...

An Oldie but A Goodie...

All were inmates in Pelican Bay's Security Housing Unit at the time of the indictment and are identified as high-ranking Nuestra Familia members...

Prisoners charged with ordering crimes 12 years of killings, drug deals allegedly orchestrated from inside Pelican Bay

- Susan Sward, Bill Wallace, Pamela J. Podger, Chronicle Staff Writers
Tuesday, April 24, 2001


Federal prosecutors say that for more than 12 years, a group of gang members inside California's toughest prison ordered associates on the outside to commit murder and steal and sell drugs -- despite one of the most stringent security systems in the country.

A 31-page federal grand jury indictment unsealed Friday says the group, known as the Nuestra Familia, was directed by senior members serving terms in the Security Housing Unit, the most closely guarded section of Pelican Bay State Prison, home of California's most incorrigible convicts.

The gang's leaders allegedly were able to use coded messages called "kites" or "wilas," concealed in legal mail or carried by inmates' spouses and girlfriends, to smuggle out instructions for crimes.

Corrections officials deny that lax security measures allowed the gang leaders to communicate with their minions, even though all prisoner communication in the Security Housing Unit is closely monitored by staff and inmates are allowed to speak with visitors only by telephone through a thick plastic window.

"There was no breach in security as far as we are aware," said Deputy Director of Corrections Brian Parry. "We have a large number of identified gang members in the prison system as well as in the community. We don't have sufficient staff to monitor every communication -- whether it be visiting, written communication or telephone."

The indictment, filed in U.S. District Court in San Francisco on Thursday, said members of the group were responsible for five killings and 10 murder conspiracies, inside and outside state prisons.

In addition, Nuestra Familia members and associates allegedly sold cocaine, heroin and methamphetamine in communities controlled by the gang, and committed "home invasion'' robberies to steal drugs from rival criminal groups.

Although the indictment was designed to break the back of the gang, law enforcement officials are dubious about its long-term impact.

"What we've described today is, at best, the cutting off of the head of a poisonous snake -- knowing that as we speak it is already growing a new head," said Santa Rosa Police Chief Mikael A. Dunbaugh at a press conference yesterday.

Named in the indictment are: Gerald Rubalcaba, 46; James Morado, 53; Cornelio Tristan, 40; Tex Marin Hernandez, 47; Daniel Perez, 42; and Sheldon Villenueva, 40.

All were inmates in Pelican Bay's Security Housing Unit at the time of the indictment and are identified as high-ranking Nuestra Familia members.

Also indicted were seven identified as Nuestra Familia associates: Vidal Fabela, 34; Jacob Enriquez, 40; Henry Cervantes, 40; David M. Rocha, 39; Diana Vasquez, 38; Ceasar Ramirez, 40; and Rico Garcia, 34.

The suspects are all in federal custody, and an initial appearance in district court is set for Thursday. If convicted of racketeering charges alone,

the defendants could be sentenced to federal prison for life.

The indictment is the product of a three-year investigation called "Operation Black Widow" that involved the FBI, U.S. Marshals, the U.S. Attorney's office in San Francisco, the Sonoma County sheriff and district attorney, the California Highway Patrol, the California Department of Corrections and police departments in Santa Rosa, Modesto, Salinas, Stockton and San Jose.

"My office alone could not possibly have handled the stress of this investigation," Sonoma County District Attorney J. Michael Mullins said yesterday.

The case underscores the fact that even when prisoners are locked away behind concrete and barbed wire, many still find ways to continue orchestrating crimes.

To carry out criminal acts, prisoners use elaborate communication systems, including coded phone calls, letters and guest visits to circumvent prison rules and avoid detection.

Between 1985 and 2000, federal attorneys prosecuted more than 100 cases where inmates used telephones to commit crimes on the outside.

In California, alone, there have been a number of recent cases:

-- Mexican Mafia leader Francisco Ruiz Martinez is scheduled to go on trial in Los Angeles next month on federal charges that he orchestrated murders, drug deals and money laundering while serving time in prisons outside the state.

-- Last year, three Nuestra Familia prison gang members operating on the streets of San Jose pleaded guilty to killing Robert Viramontes, a longtime leader of the gang who had apparently become a target of retribution after he dropped his active participation.

-- Also last year, federal prosecutors in San Diego won narcotics trafficking and extortion conspiracy convictions against Frank Madriaga, a Mexican Mafia leader. They said he coordinated mailing drug profits in money orders to imprisoned Mexican Mafia leadership, usually at Pelican Bay.

In California, inmates at Pelican Bay "control street gangs throughout California and through those gangs' illegal activities, profit from extortion, drug trafficking and robberies," said Devan Hawkes, a Department of Corrections gang specialist who has testified about the gangs in criminal trials.

E-mail Susan Sward at ssward@sfchronicle.com,Bill Wallace at bwallace@sfchronicle.com, and Pamela J. Podger at ppodger@sfchronicle.com.

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Anonymous said...

Great post jim, but i must disagree with you on one point.
All the drug use in the states and in the world is a personal and given the opertunity any dopehead will take it and run with it.
So i belive the war on drugs cannot be fought on the borders but in our own backyards.
Kill the want and need and the supply will dry out on its own.
Having siad that how imposible would it be to the want?
And thats why drug use in the us will never sieze.

Anonymous said...

Hey that shit on th NF shows that they're not a bunch of fuck heads but rather an organized group, and dangerous at that.
You know we get a lot of shit talk on north and south issuses but the fact remains that a highly organized group of persons be it north or be it south is a deadly thing to content with.
I mean you're just as dead if a northern kills you as if it were a southern one.
Have you read the rise and fall of nuestra familis, by nina fuentes?

lil trukos said...

orale' wally welcome back, that vato leon, thats the vato they keep showing on msnbc...?que no?finally the prodical mijo returns, mucho's gracias.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous threatens:
I'm turning in my badge!!


Good! And cut off your fingers so you do'nt type anymore crappy comments. The author here has no obligation to serve you up a"porterhouse steak" or even the "t-bone" you mention.. The post was informative and promises "more to come".. So chale.He also brought to light his own fascination with how this blog can produce 1500 comments in his absence? Not so amazing when you view the quality of the rants, and how the spaced-out commentors must not even proof-read their work. More evidence of the Red Bull generation.. Instant gratification/ move on to next blunder...

Also while I'm being critical and derogatory: thanks JIM for wasting all the bandspace on copy/pasted posts that have already been brought up in the past, and are 10 to 15 yrs old.. Jesus, anybody can Google that stuff! And speaking of JESUS.. Well that's another subject that (now listen) NOBODY wants put up here...

Anonymous said...

it's nice to see my maravillosos,come out to dance with these telling bitches,,still these pussy's think there all muy chingones,but they are still taking orders from there money taking pappy's,lol,be a man putitos,dont let these bitches,tell you what to do,remember we are equal,every man bleeds the same,its only the smarter and wiser one who will raise to the top,thats why us MARAVILLOSOS are at the tip of the clouds, FUCK THE EME,,MARAVILLOSO 4 LIFE....EL FROG...

Anonymous said...

Do you hear the voice

Anonymous said...

Las ranas son sapos... jajajaja maravillosos son sapos... Los croares de la rana o sapo...Pobre sapos..

Anonymous said...

"Anonymous said...
it's nice to see my maravillosos,come out to dance with these telling bitches,,still these pussy's think there all muy chingones,but they are still taking orders from there money taking pappy's,lol,be a man putitos,dont let these bitches,tell you what to do,remember we are equal,every man bleeds the same,its only the smarter and wiser one who will raise to the top,thats why us MARAVILLOSOS are at the tip of the clouds, FUCK THE EME,,MARAVILLOSO 4 LIFE....EL FROG..."


I'm getting really tired of these pecetas crying for attention. "Hey! Look at me! I'm a man! I don't follow orders!" The fact is that your all like a bunch of chihuahuas behind a gated fence. Stop preaching online and get on the block. And everybody who is a part of something follows orders. If we didn't, there wouldn't be any clickas. Those MVs without a trece are a bunch of mantequilla ... straight busters. And clicka bastards too! Son desgraciados sin respeto. You fools are all alone. Yeah, your locos alright ... but a different kind of locos ... the kind that nobody has respect for. The kind that is just plain stupid crazy ... like the fool down the street screaming about green aliens ... a paranoid crackhead. On the other hand a Soldado follows orders, has respect, and has class. Maybe you don't know what that means, but that's ok because you probably never will. Anyway, Soldados are the ones that become Veteranos ... at least remember that.

Here's a simple question. What's the difference between a green-lighter and a fool on skid row? Answer: Nada! Wait, I take that back. Everybody has more respect for those on skid row. Do you actually think barking at the Brotherhood from your little sister's pink iMac makes you a man? I see no future for green-lighters like you. Just like the rest of the shit, you either get flushed, burried, or burned. You might as well be a crip cause your not a part of my Raza.

Anonymous said...

orale,i finally got some putito,that the jacket fit,well dont be mad at me'becuase YOU have to take orders,shit thats your bitch ass,were not the ones buying canteen for your LEADER,lol damb mija is'nt that ashame,muy soldiers,all your surata homeboys are filling up all the peceta yards,shit they even over flowing all of chino too,you suratas just cant admit that you guys drop dimes on the man too.so stand tall and proud,and yell out loud,,the renta is almost up,so i have to go suck dick to make up for it,or else the eme is going wack me...lol.....EL FROG.. MARAVILLOSO...

JIM said...

This is the local rags take.

U.S. indicts 36 in Mexican Mafia crackdown
U.S. indicts 36 alleged members under organized crime statute. Many were already in state prison and all but four are in custody.
By Tony Perry, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
June 17, 2006


SAN DIEGO — Thirty-six alleged members or associates of the Mexican Mafia were indicted Friday in a case that federal officials predicted would be the beginning of the end for the violent gang's stranglehold on some of San Diego County's Latino neighborhoods.

"Any organization built on violence and drugs has to be dismantled, and today we begin that process," U.S. Atty. Carol Lam said.

The charges include racketeering, drug trafficking, murder, robbery, extortion and money laundering.

The indictment represents the first time that officials in San Diego County have used the federal Racketeering Influenced and Corrupt Organization statute to attack the Mexican Mafia, authorities said.

Sixteen of the 36 were already in state prison — some serving life sentences — but were able to order killings and drug deals by smuggling out coded messages, often with the help of wives or girlfriends, the indictment said.

One Mafia leader was able to continue his leadership despite being held at Pelican Bay, a maximum security prison, the indictment alleged. A federal indictment means the prisoners can be moved to federal prisons anywhere in the United States, making it more difficult for them to communicate with the outside. At day's end, only four of the 36 were still at large.

Daniel R. Dzwilewski, special agent in charge of the FBI office, said the Mafia members "are urban street terrorists … the closest thing to traditional organized crime in San Diego."

Although there have been similar indictments over the last decade in Los Angeles and Orange counties, the 21-month effort dubbed "In the Hat" is the most vigorous attempt to date to combat the Mexican Mafia in this border county.

The name for the operation is a riff on slang used by Mafia members. Someone who is "in the hat" has done something to offend the Mexican Mafia and must be killed, Dzwilewski said.

The defendants have ties to Latino street gangs in San Diego and several suburban cities, as well as in San Bernardino and Los Angeles, according to the indictment.

Many of the Mafia members and associates, active in drug dealing, extortion and violence, went by street names such as Carnal Kenny, Evil One, Young Stud, Howdy Doody, Richie Cunningham, Jarhead, Buzzard and Snoops, among others, according to the indictment.

Anonymous said...

Javier "Gangster" Marquez was convicted because his 18 wheeled lawyers' egos where so big and they actually said the jury didn't get this case han anything to do with gangs. They brought 6 high security inmates down to testify and didn't call any of them at trial. Stating that they didn't want the jury to see convicts testify and sent them back to Pelican Bay. Now a few may be back for penalty phase. It is a shame that money hungry lawyers drug the case out five years to make more money, meanwhile his crimeys rollover and snitch. He was the only one looking at the death penalty.
LA Weekly did a big story about the "Avenues of Death" and then nothing has been published about this. Of course Javier sat in Twin Towers for two years watching videos in the women's jail, so I guess he wasn't in any rush either. The lawyers won. He's lost. There is no justice.

chingona said...

Javier "Gangster" Marquez was convicted because his 18 wheeled lawyers' egos where so big and they actually said the jury didn't get this case han anything to do with gangs. They brought 6 high security inmates down to testify and didn't call any of them at trial. Stating that they didn't want the jury to see convicts testify and sent them back to Pelican Bay. Now a few may be back for penalty phase. It is a shame that money hungry lawyers drug the case out five years to make more money, meanwhile his crimeys rollover and snitch. He was the only one looking at the death penalty.
LA Weekly did a big story about the "Avenues of Death" and then nothing has been published about this. Of course Javier sat in Twin Towers for two years watching videos in the women's jail, so I guess he wasn't in any rush either. The lawyers won. He's lost. There is no justice.

s said...

SALUDOS AND RESPECTOS TO ALL MY SUR 13 CAMARADAS !!! yeah this buter boy are straight pc ! so fuck you ! S is back! ATODOS CAMARADAS BUENOS NOCHES!!!

Anonymous said...

orale,i finally got some putito,that the jacket fit,well dont be mad at me'becuase YOU have to take orders,shit thats your bitch ass,were not the ones buying canteen for your LEADER,lol damb mija is'nt that ashame,muy soldiers,all your surata homeboys are filling up all the peceta yards,shit they even over flowing all of chino too,you suratas just cant admit that you guys drop dimes on the man too.so stand tall and proud,and yell out loud,,the renta is almost up,so i have to go suck dick to make up for it,or else the eme is going wack me...lol.....EL FROG.. MARAVILLOSO




HEY KERMIT! YOU TALK ABOUT BEING A MAN AND NOT FOLLOWING ORDERS FROM THE BIG HOMIES,ONCE YOU GET BUSTED AND P.C.UP,THAT IS WORST THAN TAKING ORDERS!AND NOBODY IS FORCED TO PAY NOTHING! YOU ACT LIKE YOU GUYS WERE PUT IN THE HAT FOR RESISTING,NOT TRUE!YOU
GUYS GOT PUT IN THE HAT FOR OTHER REASONS,YOU GUYS THINK YOU RUN YOUR OWN SHIT,NOT TRUE!IF YOU DID THEN EVERY MV WOULD BE IN THE HAT,BUT SOME MV ROLL SOUTHSIDE!YOU GUYS CANT EVEN CONTROL YOUR OWN MV's SO HOW IN THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU STAND A CHANCE WITH THE SUR,WAIT TILL THE D.O.C. STOPS BABYSITTING YOU GUYS,DUE TO THE OVERCROWDING....YOU GUYS WONT BE CHANTING AND RAVING ABOUT HOW YOU GIRLS ARE REAL MEN....A REAL MAN WONT TURN HIS BACK ON HIS HOMIES THAT ARE DOING LIFE OR SOME TIEMPE TO SAY THE LEAST,YOU GIRLIES WOULD OF MADE SURE THAT THE VATOS THAT WERE SOLID AND MADE YOUR VARRIOS WHAT THEY ONCE WERE WOULD BE SAFE!
BUT YOU PUSSIES FUCKED UP!AND LEFT YOUR HOMIES THERE TO DIE!AND YOU SAY CAUSE YOU DIDNT WANT TO PAY?
BULLSHIT KERMIT!THEN YOU AINT SHIT IF YOU DONT KNOW THE TRUTH,EVEN YOUR OLDER HOMIES GOT PIST AT THE ISSUE,BUT BECAUSE THERE MV's LIKE YOU ACTING LIKE IT AINT NO BIG THING,GOING AGAINST THE GRAIN AND YOU LAMES ARE ON THE OUTS...GET BUSTED AND P.C. UP! WHAT A SHAME!
YOU LAMES GOT ALOT OF SOLID VATOS GREENLIGHTED!GUILTY BY ASSOCIATION SO TO SPEAK,AND YOU WANT TO BOAST ABOUT IT?....HOW BOUT THE ONES THAT GOT HIT? AND HAVING NO HEART BY ASKING FOR PROTECTION!!AND YOU SAY THAT YOUR A MAN CAUSE YOU DONT PAY?...LMAO! KID TRIX ARE FOR KIDS HOMIE!....GROW THE FUCK UP!AND AS FOR THE P.C. YARDS GROWING,YEAH IT MAY BE TRUE?BUT REMEMBER...THEIR NO GOOD JUST LIKE YOU!!NO STRUCTURE OR POWER!..YOU WISH YOU WERE MAINLINE!BUT YOU CANT..EVEN IF YOU TRIED IM SURE YOU'D BE DENIED....SORRY EXCUSE FOR A GANGSTER! WHEN YOUR IN THE UNDERWORLD YOU NEVER! EVER!! GO AGAINST THE GRAIN...NO MATTER IF YOUR MEXICAN, WHITE OR BLACK,YOU NEVER GO AGAINST YOUR OWN!YOUR JUST A CHEAP IMITATION OF A BUSTER!

SouthSide said...

^^^Co-Signs!

lil trukos said...

CRESCENT CITY, Calif. (Reuters) - A large tattoo declaring membership in the "Mafia" decorates Raul Leon's stomach, a proud billboard of gang membership. An inmate at one America's toughest prisons, he openly acknowledges his influence from behind bars.

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"We look after a lot of people, whether in here or out there," Leon, wearing baggy white pants, no shirt and his hands cuffed, said through the metal mesh of a holding cell at California's remote Pelican Bay State Prison. "A lot of friends look after me. I'm a lovable, huggable-type of guy."

Isolated in a bare concrete cell for all but 90 minutes a day when the convicted killer is allowed to exercise alone in a small concrete-bound yard, Leon is a major player in the Mexican Mafia, the state's largest prison gang, officials say.

Like many of California's most notorious gang members, he is confined to a "supermax" section of Pelican Bay, 300 miles north of San Francisco. The prison is the end of the line for society's outcasts in a remote coastal corner of the state near the Oregon border.

Yet even under the most restrictive U.S. penal conditions, gangs there order killings, deal drugs and run criminal empires inside and outside prison, inmates and experts say.

Pelican Bay's inner nucleus is the Security Housing Unit (the SHU), a prison within a prison where the most dangerous inmates are kept in dismal isolation. Their conditions are more austere than even California's Death Row at San Quentin, harsher than those meted out to notorious killers such as Charles Manson and Robert Kennedy assassin Sirhan Sirhan.

Devan Hawkes, a guard specializing in gangs, says about 900 of the 1,100 inmates at the SHU are linked to gangs such as the Mexican Mafia, the Aryan Brotherhood and the Black Guerrilla Family. And despite the obstacles, he says, many still succeed in continuing a life of crime and violence.

"It's not hard to keep up communications," said Angel, 48, an inmate with elaborate tattoos on his arms and legs who spent 17 years in top-security cells. "You've got your old ladies, you've got your girlfriends, you've got P.O. boxes."

Mail with the return address of an unsuspecting lawyer can deter prison authorities from opening letters, he said.

Gang members also use coded language. "I want to take Jimmy to the barbershop as soon as possible - let me know," wrote one gang member in a letter intercepted in January. Gang expert Hawkes said the author is requesting permission to kill.

Even isolated inmates talk to each other. At the SHU, an X-shaped facility in the middle of a larger prison facility, inmates can be heard chatting through venting pipes between their cells; others shout to neighbors in nearby cells.

LEAVING THE GANG

Angel, also an ex-Mexican Mafia member, is serving two life sentences after murdering outside and then inside prison.

Pelican Bay tells gang members they can earn their way out of the notorious SHU and reside in a less harsh area of Pelican Bay either by leaving the gang and sharing their secrets with authorities or staying inactive for six years.

Three years ago, Angel turned on his gang. Today, he asks that his last name not be used because he fears for the safety of his son who is still in a prison gang.

Duro, 37, a former San Diego area resident who made the same decision as Angel, said becoming what gang members call a snitch is risky. "Yeah, my life is in danger," he said. An earnest and well-spoken man due to be released from prison in three months, David said he once oversaw Mexican Mafia drug sales in the prison yard.

"It's not hard for business to be conducted inside a prison," he said. "If they didn't pay, they (would) get stabbed or taken out."

Relatives, friends and associates often ferry in the drugs. Inmates pay for the drugs either via contacts in the outside world or transfers from their own prison bank accounts. "I'm a convict. I'm a snake. I'm going to try to beat the system," David said of his past activities.

An unrepentant Leon soundly condemns those like Duro and Angel he calls "rats."

At a prison so tough that it has been subject to special court scrutiny, Pelican Bay officials find Leon's ability to circumvent the rules and tolerate the SHU especially troubling. In one six-month period in 1996 alone, Leon sent more than 1,000 letters, about half of which discussed crimes, using code words such as "dog food" for heroin, said prison guard Hawkes.

"They say that, but the way I see it I ain't doing nothing but helping some friends," said Leon, who was convicted of an execution-style murder as a teen-ager.

Like other inmates interviewed, he spoke in the presence of a prison official. "I'm just an individual that a lot of people listen to and respect," he said.

A former San Diego resident, Leon, 40, has been at Pelican Bay's SHU since it opened in 1989, and he expects to die there. For now, his $24,000 bank account is frozen and his mail rights suspended, but he does not regret anything and says prison has not broken him.

"Being a man says whatever comes my way I'm dealing with it," he said. "That's us, all the way, until death."

lil trkos said...

This site has a video watch it:


http://www.kfmb.com/stories/story.53831.html#

R2K said...

Wow a new post, sweet : )

And a video to boot!

R2K

lil trkos said...

heres another site my homie told me about check it out

http://www.kfmb.com/stories/story.53831.html#

Anonymous said...

lil trukos what happened to your name you forgot the u

Anonymous said...

check out this site i here its got a video coming soon.http://liltrukospoking.blogspot.com/

lil trukos said...

sorry about that, i hope some the info was at the least entertaining to all

Anonymous said...

WHEN YOUR IN THE UNDERWORLD YOU NEVER! EVER!! GO AGAINST THE GRAIN...NO MATTER IF YOUR MEXICAN, WHITE OR BLACK,YOU NEVER GO AGAINST YOUR OWN!YOUR JUST A CHEAP IMITATION OF A BUSTER!


LETS SEE...LUCKY LUCIANO WENT AGAINST THE GRAIN BY BEFREINDING AND INCLUDING IN HIS ORG SOME JEWS.
THE MAIN MOUSTACHE PETES OF HIS TIME DIDN'T LIKE JEWS AND WANTED HIM TO BETRAY THEM OR DIE. HE WENT AGIANST THE GRAIN, AND WITH MEYER LANSKY'S HELP, WENT ON TO BECOME ONE OF THE GREATEST GANGSTERS OF ALL TIME...

JOHN GOTTI KNEW HITTING A BOSS WAS GAINST THE GRAIN, BUT HE WENT FOR IT AND BECAME AN AMERICAN ICON.

CLOSER TO HOME, AND THIS IS THEORY CAUSE I NEVER MET THE MAN, BUT I BET JOE MORGAN PROBABLY CAUGHT ALOT OF PEDO FROM THE GAVAS FOR GOING AGAINST THE GRAIN (SIDING WITH RACES OTHER THAN YOUR OWN) AND WENT ON TO BECOME A CHICANO LEGEND FOR DOING SO.

I COULD GO ON AND ON...I DON'T KNOW THE MARAVILLOSO, BUT YOU SOUND LIKE A TOTAL VICTIM OF BRAINWASHING ESE! GROW SOME BALLS AND BE YOUR OWN MAN... OR END UP WITH A FAMOUS MOVIDA NAMED AFTER YOU LIKE THE INFAMOUS TRUKOS POKE

Anonymous said...

THERE IS NOTHING BUT NETBANGERS NOW A DAYS THEY EVEN HAVE INTERNET GANGS LIKE PLAYMATES WHO RECRUITS MEMBERS ON MY SPACE HEY CLAIM TO BE IN ORANGE COUNTY BUT EACH MEMBERS CLAIMS THEIR OWN COUNTY THE QUESTION IS WHO DO THEY PAID THEIR TAXES TOO FOR USING THE SOUTH SIDE X3 NAME AND IS A INTERNET BANG ALLOW TO CALL THEM SELF A VARRIO

Anonymous said...

you guys need to post some better cheezzze......your fucking posts are all worth a fucking dirty prostitute's panty....

Bitch Ass Norwalk? Where are you bitch.....?

Anonymous said...

fuck chivas and artesia

Anonymous said...

///you guys need to post some better cheezzze......your fucking posts are all worth a fucking dirty prostitute's panty....///

The road to other web sites is but a click away. Bye.

mr s said...

unfortunately anonymous you are the only member of the home poke club, because well, your a homo

Anonymous said...

DO THE TRUKOS !
THE TRUKOS POKE!


IM STILL WAITING TO HEAR WHAT HOMIE THINKS ABOUT JOE MORGAN GOING AGAINST THE GRAIN

O C Half Breed said...

"WHEN YOUR IN THE UNDERWORLD YOU NEVER! EVER!! GO AGAINST THE GRAIN...NO MATTER IF YOUR MEXICAN, WHITE OR BLACK,YOU NEVER GO AGAINST YOUR OWN!YOUR JUST A CHEAP IMITATION OF A BUSTER!"

There's been few Eme members who were white, some I think were half. But besides Joe Morgan, Topi Peters is at least a half breed, Shyrock is white. There's a good number of gavachos in South Side neighborhoods. You get Asians claiming crips and in the mid-West you get white boys who are in black gangs.

Anonymous said...

you guys need to post some better cheezzze......your fucking posts are all worth a fucking dirty prostitute's panty....

Mr. Cheese buster, did we get your panties in a knott Cabron?

Anonymous said...

SO WHAT KINDA SENTENCE IS JAVIER"GANGSTER"MARQUEZ FACEING?WAS THIS REALLY A DEATH PENALTY CASE LIKE L.A.WEEKLY HAD REPORTED?

don quixote said...

the whole race card some people are claiming is all bullshit as far as the mexican american / chicano is concerned. It's all about the culture not the race. Always has been and probably always will be.
Many gavachos have been varrio warriors and in the pinta too. Take the time to review "Tijuana Jailers" posts about this issue and you will be educated on the non-issue of race and the all important issue of "Cultural" attitudes and attributes of Chicanismo and Carnalismo, especially in the LA varrio's.

By the way on this subject supposedly a "gavacho" shot caller is on the street and will be stepping up to the plate to replace his "pinch hitter" on the east side of LA , should be very interesting to see how this plays out. Good to see that we "Wallista's still have our mero jefe "Wally" in this life and It seems very curious that the new Rico pedo is called "operation in the hat". hmmmmmm!

Gava Joe said...

Orale Don of Many Names.. Good to also see you among the living..The pedo got thick, no? Too much masa in the mole'.... I too had a twinge of deja vu as the Wally World turns.. It's good the maestro brought up the "in the hat" metaphor. The similarities are spooky. We always accepted LE's presence here. It made for the mix, but YO, a major RICO prosecution having the same handle as this blog? As you say: Hmmmmmmm.

S said...

Whats up to all my SOUTH SIDERS!!!

Anonymous said...

the vato from NOrwalk...Your homie got put "in the hat" by the Feds!....
:)

Anonymous said...

Again, like I said before, the cheezzeee here smells like a bag of Doritos potato chips.........matches all your guys' mother smelly ass feet.....tell that old bitch to make an extra effort and scrub her ass and feet, thats if she can still reach....

(No Offense on the Rancho San Pedro Neighborhood...)
:)

Anonymous said...

"CLOSER TO HOME, AND THIS IS THEORY CAUSE I NEVER MET THE MAN, BUT I BET JOE MORGAN PROBABLY CAUGHT ALOT OF PEDO FROM THE GAVAS FOR GOING AGAINST THE GRAIN (SIDING WITH RACES OTHER THAN YOUR OWN) AND WENT ON TO BECOME A CHICANO LEGEND FOR DOING SO."

I thought Morgan grew up with Raza in a varrio, didn't he? When you get busted you just stick with what you know, when I was busted I seen Black surenos in inglewood and I seen white dudes who knew more spanish then me on the 2000, 4000 and 5000 floors of the old county. So as long as your down for yours you can run with what group you want. So to Morgan he was just going with what he knew.

"Youngster with Game"

Anonymous said...

Off topic, but:

Wally, I would suggest that this blog serves a serious need for information.

Not to dis you but why dont you give TJ or Quixote a set of keys to your blog, let them help you post regularly?

Seriously think about it you can help drive the conversation better, this can be a really valuable site.

Thank you
Drew

Anonymous said...

Youngster With Game

I agree that when you get busted that you "Go with what you know" but sometimes it's not always that simple.Yeah , sure a Gava might grow up in a Raza nieghborhood and roll with la Raza in county but that may not be accepted from the Gava's or the Raza when he hits the joint.It all depends on who's doing time there at that paticular time , are their tentions between certain races at the time , there are always mitagating circumstances.It's never as simple as black and white.

Anonymous said...

WILMAS CITIZEN SAID:
RANCHO DORITOS, LOL, DAMN "HAPPY FACE MAN" KNOWS HIS HOODS. NOW THAT IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST FUCKED UP DISS ON A HOOD
LMAO

Anonymous said...

Mr.S

I just wanted to say FUCK YOU on this new topic.Thank You.

Anonymous said...

Off topic, but:

Wally, I would suggest that this blog serves a serious need for information.

Not to dis you but why dont you give TJ or Quixote a set of keys to your blog, let them help you post regularly?

Seriously think about it you can help drive the conversation better, this can be a really valuable site.

Thank you
Drew


I Second the motion. - Great idea!
Manny

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Good! And cut off your fingers so you do'nt type anymore crappy comments. The author here has no obligation to serve you up a"porterhouse steak" or even the "t-bone" you mention.. The post was informative and promises "more to come"..

Shut "yo" whine ass mouth up! I got a promise for you too, una vergota para tus chapetes and more to come... and sooner than later too Carmela.

Anonymous said...

TJ and Don Queer dont know shit of what's cracking on the calles

More you listen to those old farting vatos-more stupid all you fuckers get

the only keys given to those two clowns - is the keys to Camp Snoopy

Anonymous said...

don Culote:
i hope your not talking about that white fat fuck that lives in his dad's inherited Scooby doo brown van
that fat fuck cant even properly collect on the east side without another carnal taking his dues

DISGRACE TO THE EMEROS

S said...

keep my name out your chops you stupid pice of shit! about white and black homies in the pen! homies dont trip on that race thing as long you are a homie .its alot homies on the yard who is not raza but he get the same respect as every homie on the yard! so you fools are triping ! youngster with out game how old are you? and difrent race cant trip on any homie in there if they do they out the yard! SUR 13 runs the show!

Anonymous said...

don Quixote:
i hope your not talking about that white fat fuck that lives in his dad's inherited Scooby doo brown van?

First of all it's bronze, tamal face, secondly it's a winnebago, thirdly he is husky not fat (and he could wipe the floor with you pal), and fourthly your are a disgrace to your feminine napkin sewing circle.

Anonymous said...

By the way on this subject supposedly a "gavacho" shot caller is on the street and will be stepping up to the plate to replace his "pinch hitter"

Don Q... on the serio, what are your intentions for posting this?? A little dry snitching? Con todo respeto ese, I don't get why you'd write such chisme. I've enjoyed a lot of your stories, you're quite articulate, but posting things of such nature whether true or not is taboo... if you come from the same lifestyle and grew up with the same values you'd know better.

Anonymous said...

s shut the fuck up! you would not evan come out to your own front yard let alone any prison yard.your a proven fake why do you keep coming back, make up a new fake identity and start over.

Anonymous said...

Its not taboo.......when the "so called" carnal is a white bitch and a buster....
sound like typical Canta Ranta....
lol

Anonymous said...

Wally, people are not here to get information that the Times won't give them, except for maybe the 3 or 4 cops that come here for their masturbation material.

In fact, if you read the comments section in your last post, you'll see that most of the contributers from the street made a mockery of your beat on Conoga Park vs. Haskell. Appearantly they can get more in depth info. on EME at the New England Press Examiner.

BTW, how goes the war between CPA and Haskell, Wally? Where's the follow up? How can you blame the LA Times for not reporting stories that even you are shying away from now, and for the same reason they are; They were never stories to begin with?

Yeh, I know the details from the street are juicy. But if the late '90s proved anything, it's that a better job market in urban centers pretty much bring gang activity to a hault, EME or no EME. Nothing will stop crime and violence, but a better quality of life in American cities will sure as hell slow it down to a managable level, as opposed to the clusterfuck it is today thanks to the ghost town economy in urban Los Angeles and new avenues of cocaine distrubition (that seem to come with every Republican administration...). Forgive the Times if they have their eyes on that, the bigger picture.

Anonymous said...

the white boyz called it flood ranch!!!! the pisas called it Canta Ranas* once again, to get the facts straight.....
:)

Anonymous said...

I am 24, not much of a youngster anymore but, when I first started checking this site out 3 years ago I used this handle.

"Youngster with Game"

Anonymous said...

wally do read any off these posts?

Big OG Wally said...

yes i do my son......relax Jr.

Anonymous said...

THe HAsHbrown (Haskell) has a Homie by the name of "Silent". Cant speak for shit, read, or write.....Nevertheless, he was there and witnessed one of his homies get blasted and killed.......
So, here is the fucking question for the intelligent motherfucker....
HOw in the fuck do you get "Silent" to testify on the stand, point, and verbally state that thats the motherfucker that killed his homie?
The pendejo "Slient" cant read or write and is a fucking Mudo????
anyone gots the answer? I know Silent wont answer this question for shit

Anonymous said...

:) next, I'll tell you about the homie with only one arm....
lol

Anonymous said...

Javier Marquez is looking at LWOP (life without possibility of parole) or death. The penalty phase trial starts tomorrow. It is the same person mentioned in "Avenues of Death" article in LA Weekly.

Anonymous said...

Well, there is a better one crackalacking right about now and as we speak....Big H.Marroqueer is about to stand before the big Judge almighty.....I hope he gets his dick handed back at him....
:)

Anonymous said...

ok.so this is raul leon thats been in the shu for years rite?so now they gonna hit him with sum fed. beef.do they have a shu in the feds?or will mr.leon be have more freedom in there?same question goes for all other carnales that are in the feds.including them nf's that got convicted in that black widow opp.

Anonymous said...

[Javier Marquez is looking at LWOP (life without possibility of parole) or death. The penalty phase trial starts tomorrow. It is the same person mentioned in "Avenues of Death" article in LA Weekly.]......i thought javier allready had lwop.

Anonymous said...

Javier Marquez is looking at LWOP (life without possibility of parole) or death. The penalty phase trial starts tomorrow. It is the same person mentioned in "Avenues of Death" article in LA Weekly.

Anonymous said...

Is it? Or isn't? Make up your mind buster, are you tellin' or are you askin'??? Your one reason for Bush's "No child left behind". Don't drink and write. Si vas a escribir no halces el vaso.

Anonymous said...

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON IN ORANGE COUNTY I AM 35 YEARS OLD VETERANO THE OTHER DAY I WHENT TO PICK UP MY CUNADA IN VARRIO CITRON IN ANAHEIM AND I STUPID VATO ABOUT 25 YEARS OLD COMES AND HIT ME UP YOU KNOW "WHERE YOU FROM ESE" I AM LOOKING AT HIM LIKE I AM A VETERANO STUPID FUCK BUT I TOLD THE I AM A SURENO HOMIE TO MY SURPRISE THE LOOKS AT ME PULLS OUT A CUETE AND SAID FUCK SURENO THIS IS CITRON HE IS LUCKY HE STARTED RUNING WHEN I WAS ABOUT TO PULL MY CUETE BUT MY QUESTION IS "IS CITRON RUNING WITH THE SUR OR THEY ARE BECOMING LIKE MARAVILLA I WAS TALKING TO ONE OF MY OLDERS HOMIE AND HE SAID THEY SHOULD BE PUT ON THE GREENLIGH FOR DISRESPECTING A VETERANO AND THE SUR HE WASNT A YOUNGERST HE KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING ANY INFO ON CITRON WILL BE APPRECIATED.
MR. SLUGGER
V.CASINOS

Norwalquero said...

Tijuanero:

I hope you're doing well.

I have a question...but this may very well be one of those "If I tell you, I'll have to kill you" questions. (If so, I understand) (-;

In Mundo's book (particularly in the latter chapters), he (Mundo) makes reference to, and talks at length about, a number of senior law enforcement officials that he encountered and worked with subsequent to his defection from the M.

I'm curious.....

Given your encyclopedic knowledge of people and events from that particular era, and your personal acquaintance with Mundo (and others), I cannot help but wonder if, perhaps, you are personally made reference to in the book??

Tu sabes.....inquiring minds! (-;

With respect,

Norwalquero

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

wally do read any off these posts?

Answer: yes.

But here is how he does it,

He rolls two dice and doubles the sum,

then he adds 21 and divides the total by 3,

to this total he adds 11 and that total is the

fulcrum variable number Wally uses to read that night.

For example if Wally's final total number tomorrow is 15

he wil read every 15th post from tomorrows agregate total posts.

Now My wife says I am a smart ass but I like to say I am

Helpful.

Anonymous said...

Originally Anonymous said...
the rumor mill,all the potenialy deadly prison stigmas and the bizarre politics are just some of the reasons to avoid prison. check this story out for the extreme and whacky methods this hapless wood went to in hopes of staying alive. some of you have probably heard about this epic drama but for those who haven't:
http://www.westword.com/Issues/2000-05-25/news/feature.html

Jeremy Garcia was the first to see the Special Forces commandos. Well, they said they were Special Forces. But the two men didn't look like any commandos Garcia had seen before. Their heads were covered by camouflage hoods studded with pieces of red sponge. They wore thick green canvas breastplates and other protective material on their arms and legs. They carried long poles swathed in sheets and a heavy tarp made out of a mattress cover. They looked like refugees from an intergalactic roller derby.
It was half past nine on the night of October 3, 1997. Garcia, a corrections officer at the U.S. penitentiary outside of Florence, Colorado, was patrolling the recreation yard when he abruptly came across the pair, standing outside one of the housing units. They made no move to run or hide themselves in the darker recesses of the yard. It was as if they'd been waiting for him.

"We're Special Forces, here to infiltrate your institution," said one of the men. "Didn't your lieutenant notify you?"

Garcia used his radio to ask his lieutenant if the prison was expecting any visitors. But even as he made the call, the officer realized he was dealing with something much stranger than an invasion by Special Forces. These men were inmates...inmates on the yard, two and a half hours after all of the prisoners were supposed to be back in their cells...inmates wearing gear that was designed to help them blend in with the red gravel in the yard and to climb over razor wire without getting sliced to ribbons.

Other guards responded quickly to Garcia's call. The two prisoners, who turned out to be convicted bank robbers Tony Francis and Robert Haney, were stripped of their equipment and cuffed. A search of the yard turned up other tools, including more poles; a couple of homemade ladders made out of canvas belts and wooden blocks; a grappling hook created from a heavy combination lock and a toothbrush container; and a duffel bag packed with food, clothing, a compass, medical supplies and cayenne pepper -- which, prison officials surmised, was to be used to throw pursuing bloodhounds off the scent, just like in Cool Hand Luke. It appeared that Francis and Haney had been apprehended by Officer Garcia in the process of trying to bust out of the most modern, escape-proof, high-security federal pen in America.

Yet there were aspects of the caper that puzzled investigators. If the two men were breaking out, why was so much of their equipment scattered across the yard, in plain view of one or more of the seven guard towers? How did they get it all there in the first place? Why were they still in the yard almost three hours after the last count, when they could have used their ladders to reach the roof, climb over the prison wall and then tackle the perimeter fence?

Aside from the crack about Special Forces, Francis and Haney weren't talking about their bungled escape...or whatever it was. But if they weren't trying to escape, what were they doing?

Q: It's not against the law to go into protective custody, is it?

A: Yes, it is.

Q: What law?

A: The law of the jungle. The prisoner's law. -- Cross-examination of Tony Francis, USA v. Francis and Haney, April 2000

Last month, more than two years after they were charged with attempted escape, Francis and Haney finally got a chance to explain themselves in a federal courtroom in downtown Denver. They brought in a string of witnesses, many of them dangerous convicts shackled hand and foot, to tell the jury about a rumor that got out of hand; about a vicious race war that spread across the federal penitentiary system; and, finally, about an act of desperation triggered by two murders that occurred at another prison, thousands of miles away.

Tony Francis took the stand in his own defense and made the most outrageous claim of all: When Officer Garcia found him on the yard, he said, he wasn't trying to escape. He was auditioning for a cell in solitary confinement. Marked for death by a black prison gang, despised by white gang members, he figured it was the only way to save his hide.

It was a wild and convoluted tale, yet it made a crazy kind of sense. The lawyers for the accused, Assistant Federal Public Defender Janine Yunker and criminal attorney David Lane, hammered away at the essential ironies of the case. U.S. Penitentiary Florence is part of a sophisticated four-prison compound that includes the federal supermax, ADX, and as such, it is virtually impossible to escape. Even if Francis and Haney had made it through stacks of razor wire without getting shot or impaled, the numerous security devices of the larger complex would have easily defeated them. But external security doesn't translate into security for the people inside; in its short history, USP Florence has become one of the deadliest prisons in the country.

Since the penitentiary opened seven years ago, there have been eight inmate homicides at Florence, the latest only a few weeks ago. Three of the killings have occurred in the special housing unit, or SHU -- the lockdown unit where authorities place prisoners for their own protection when their lives are at risk. Although the U.S. Bureau of Prisons refused a Westword request for homicide statistics by facility, the Florence murder rate is comparable to that of California's infamous Pelican Bay prison and far worse than that of less "secure" state pens. But despite the gruesome and bizarre nature of some of the killings, they have rarely attracted even passing mention in the Colorado media.

According to figures provided by a BOP statistician at the Francis trial, the penitentiary has a high rate of other kinds of violence, too. During a seventeen-month period in 1997-98, the prison reported 94 inmate-on-inmate assaults, or roughly one stabbing or beating victim among every ten inmates. The true figure is probably higher, argues Haney attorney David Lane, because many assaults are never reported to authorities.

"If a convict kills a convict, it's like killing two birds with one stone," notes Lane. "That's one less to worry about, and maybe we can get the death penalty on the other convict, right? And nobody cares. Yet if there was a high school in Colorado, and once every ten months, one member of the student body viciously and brutally killed another, and every week someone was getting stabbed, that would be front-page news. Nobody would tolerate that for one minute. But that's exactly what's going on in Florence."

No prison is free of danger, of course, but few outsiders can comprehend the level of mayhem that now prevails at USP Florence. The Francis trial provided a rare glimpse into that dark and bloody world, where a thousand of the most violent criminals in the country have fashioned their own culture and rituals, their own rules for living and dying. It's a world where wrong is right and whirl is king, where weapons and homebrewed hooch are readily available, and racial hatred is not only tolerated but effectively sanctioned.

Francis's defense hinged on his insistence that, for him, there was no protection from the carnage. In Florence, the "safest" place, the SHU, is actually the most dangerous, a noisome, overcrowded and poorly supervised unit where new arrivals are at the mercy of the deranged and the damned. Terrible things happen in the SHU. One man strangled his cellmate and kept the corpse around for days before officials discovered the death. Two others disemboweled their victim and put his vital organs on display.

Lane describes the prisoners hauled into court to testify about Tony Francis's dilemma as "some of the baddest asses in the federal system." They were black and white, brown and red. Some were admitted gang leaders and would cheerfully have attacked each other in the right circumstances. But they all agreed on one thing: Federal penitentiaries are much more violent than state prisons, and Florence is one of the worst of all.

"That place," says Douglas Taylor, also known as "Saxon," leader of the 88 Skinheads, "is the intensest joint I've ever been in."

Q: If someone was a member of the Aryan Brotherhood, would he tell me?

A: For what reason? You'd have to go ask them...In prison, everything is rumor. It's a big gossip mill.

Q: It's all hearsay, right?

A: Yeah. But that doesn't stop people from dying.-- Cross-examination of Joseph Bryant McGee, convicted bank robber and USP inmate

The Bureau of Prisons operates 95 correctional facilities across the country. The vast majority of them are minimum-security camps, low- to medium-security prisons, or special detention and medical centers for illegal aliens, prisoners in transport, or the ailing and aged. The BOP's ten high-security penitentiaries, along with the Florence supermax, are reserved for the most violent, escape-prone or long-term problem cases.

Tony Francis started his federal-prison career in 1989 as a medium-security inmate. He was 25 years old, serving a nine-year sentence for armed bank robberies in Oregon and Idaho. Within a few months he earned a trip to a USP the old-fashioned way: He tried to escape.

In 1990 Francis was discovered lying facedown near the perimeter fence of Federal Correctional Institution (FCI) Phoenix. A former hunting guide in the Northwest, he would later say he was having trouble adjusting to the notion that he was going to be locked up for nine years.

"At the time, it seemed like ninety," he testified last month. "I didn't care about anything."

Francis spent six months in "the hole" -- disciplinary segregation -- and then was transferred to USP Lewisburg in Pennsylvania. But he was brought back to Arizona in 1993 to face charges of attempted escape for his antics at FCI. In the intervening three years, Francis had almost forgotten about the offense; alarmed that he could now get an additional five years tacked onto his sentence, he began to plot another escape.

This time he was successful. Awaiting trial at Maricopa County's most secure jail, he managed to slip undetected through two electronic doors and hide inside a food cart, which an unsuspecting corrections officer wheeled from his unit to the jail's kitchen. Wearing the orange shirt of a trusty, Francis made his way from the kitchen to a loading dock, removed the shirt and fled bare-chested into the streets of Phoenix.

The next day he committed another bank robbery. The FBI soon placed him on the agency's list of the top fifteen fugitives, but Francis stayed out of their grasp for months. One evening, while hiding out in a motel room, he saw a picture of himself on the popular television program America's Most Wanted. The program described him as a member of the Aryan Brotherhood, the notorious white supremacist prison gang. That was news to him. He figured the BOP must have wanted him so badly that they fed the show a line of hooey.

Francis kept running, but he was going nowhere. "When I escaped in 1993, I learned a valuable lesson," he says now. "The last thing it was, was freedom. I never felt as confined as when I was on the street, running from the law. I couldn't see my family. I couldn't tell anyone who I was."

After five months on the lam, he was captured near Seattle, outside an illegally parked motor home. According to news reports, he struggled with King County police officers and made an unsuccessful grab for one cop's gun. Inside the motor home, police found two handguns, an assault rifle and $27,000 in cash.

Francis caught a break on the sentencing for his escape and robbery spree, picking up a mere five years on top of the time he was already doing. He was soon back in Lewisburg, where his reputation had grown in his absence. He was no longer simply Tony Francis, escape artist. He was now Tony Francis, reputed member of the Aryan Brotherhood.

Anyone who knew Francis knew he wasn't AB. Regarded as one of the most dangerous and powerful of all prison gangs, the Brotherhood isn't a fraternity a man can join without bloodshed. ("It takes something to get into it," testified Saxon Taylor, "and there ain't no getting out. Fuck no.") Tony Francis lacked the tattoos, the racist ideology and the necessary penchant for violence. He was short in stature and also short in terms of the time he had left to serve, compared to many USP gang members, who are doing stretches of twenty years or more.

Inmates who knew Francis at Lewisburg remember him as quiet, "an isolationist" who kept to himself. They didn't consider him violent at all. In the criminal pecking order of a USP, a career in armed robbery is considered respectable but tame -- especially, as one of the witnesses at the Francis trial put it, "if you don't hurt nobody." Yet the AB tag stayed with Francis, a whisper behind his back. He could never quite shake it.

"In prison, it's really easy for rumors to get started, because there's nothing to do," a large, bullet-headed convict named Joseph Bryant McGee told the jury. "It's easy to put smut on someone."

Francis had reason to worry about his celebrity status. There was a race war stirring in the federal penal system. Two years after his return, it washed across Lewisburg, leaving a trail of bodies behind.

Q: What happened when you jammed up Tony Francis?

A: He was kind of snotty about it. Dude's a real trip. He alienated himself from people who think like me.

Q: What do people like you think?

A: I think like someone who's been in prison since he was twelve years old.

Q: Do you think the races should be separate?

A: In prison or in life? I don't know much about life. But you come to prison, I'll show you a reality you can't possibly imagine. -- Cross-examination of Joseph McGee

Estimates of the number of prison gang members in federal penitentiaries vary widely. Officially, gangs don't even exist. The BOP prefers the term "disruptive groups" and claims to have embarked on a comprehensive program to eliminate them.

A few years ago the warden of USP Florence told a reporter that more than forty disruptive groups operated in his prison, but it's likely that many of the groups have fewer than a dozen members. They range from well-known gangs with extensive street connections, such as the Aryan Brotherhood, the Bloods and the Mexican Mafia, to more exotic incarnations, including the Dirty White Boys, the Latin Kings and the DC Blacks.

Virtually all of the groups are forged along racial lines. They exist to deal drugs, terrorize other races and extort money or sex from their own kind in exchange for "protection." When racial troubles arise, it's not unusual for competing gangs to band together by color -- black against white, or sometimes brown and white against black -- for their own survival.

At the Francis trial, a procession of heavily guarded experts on prison culture took the stand to explain the nuances of gang behavior and cellhouse lingo -- for example, the difference between stepping to someone (bracing him to see where he stands on the gang question, to see if he knows what time it is), jamming up that person to see if he pees (challenging a convict, testing him to see if he's going to fight back or wet himself), or strapping up (arming yourself) and moving on him (beating or stabbing him).

Some of the prisoners wore their colors proudly, like 88 Skinhead leader Saxon Taylor, whose shaven head bears a large "88" tattoo on one side and a "100" on the other. The double eight refers to the eighth letter of the alphabet, as in "Heil Hitler," he told the jury.

"What about the "100'?" David Lane asked.

"One hundred percent peckerwood," Taylor said. "One hundred percent white. One hundred percent real."

Other witnesses had shaved heads and arms that were purple with prison art, but they claimed not to be affiliated with any gang. When pressed, they might admit to being "separatists," meaning they believe the races should avoid each other in prison. In this, they are strongly supported by the BOP itself, which has an unofficial but largely inviolable practice of strict segregation in USP celling in order to avoid racial fights.

Putting whites and blacks in the same cell just isn't done, explained Joseph Leissler, a convicted robber and murderer who knew Francis at Lewisburg. After a wave of racially motivated violence at the prison, Leissler was shipped to USP Atlanta and allegedly "set up" by guards, who assigned him to a cell with a black man. He assaulted his cellmate, he told the jury, and then was beaten by guards.

"They deliberately housed me with an African-American," he said. "I told them, "Don't do it. I am a white man. We don't cell with black people. I don't care what the policy is -- we make policy on this.'

"They wouldn't listen. I told them, "Go get the body bag and the utility tag, because one of us is going to need it.' If you're a white man with any kind of respect for yourself, you just don't do that. You're going to end up being targeted by your own people."

Francis understood how things worked at Lewisburg. He spent a lot of time in his cell alone, reading books. When he went to the mess hall, the yard or the weight room, he stayed with the white guys. It didn't mean he was AB, just sensible. Still, some of his associates were known separatists, like Joseph Dougherty, an old-time bank robber and jailhouse lawyer whose acquaintance with federal pens dates back to the 1960s. A Santa Claus look-alike with a flowing white beard, Dougherty considered Francis "a decent young man" and didn't mind sharing a table with him at the mess hall.

"The federal prison system is chaos," testified Dougherty, who described himself as an Odinist. "A white person in prison is in deep trouble if he doesn't have people to stand with him. The guards can't do nothing. All they can do is prosecute the winner."

The importance of race loyalty was driven home at Lewisburg in the fall of 1996. For months there had been an escalating series of racial attacks across the penitentiary system involving the DC Blacks, the Aryan Brotherhood and affiliated groups. The conflict may have started with a fracas the previous winter on the yard at USP Marion in Illinois. Some whites believed the incident was an attempt by DC Blacks to assassinate a leader of the Dirty White Boys; some blacks considered that to be the white spin on a deal the DWB had started and lost. Whatever the truth, tempers were rising. For three days in November they boiled over, leading to two related killings at Lewisburg.

The first victim was a white prisoner who had recently converted to Islam, apparently with the blessing of black Muslim prisoners. This was too great an insult for the white gangs to bear. The convert was stabbed twenty times; two other white inmates were suspected of being his murderers.

Three days later, another white inmate, a young man known as "Tennessee," was slain in another unit. This time the suspected killers were black, supposedly paying in kind for the earlier slaying. By all accounts, the victim had nothing to do with the earlier murder and may not have even been in a gang.

Lewisburg was locked down for months after the murders. Every time inmates were allowed out of their cells again, there were more retaliatory stabbings. Francis began to worry about his AB rep. If the gangs were willing to kill this white dude from Tennessee just because he was a convenient target, what about him?

At one point, Joseph Dougherty recalled, he met with the heads of the Moors, the Sikhs and the Nation of Islam groups at Lewisburg to find out what their intentions were concerning Tony Francis.

"They said there was a jihad and that Tony would be hit whenever they could get to him," Dougherty told the Francis jury. "It was out of their hands."

But under cross-examination, Dougherty faltered in his recollections of the timing of that conversation. In any case, it doesn't appear that Francis ever knew about such a meeting or gave it a second thought. In the spring of 1997 he was transferred from Lewisburg to Florence, which removed him from one kind of impossible situation and placed him in another.

Q: Isn't it true that if an inmate tells staff he's been assaulted, he's in danger of being labeled a snitch?

A: I have no knowledge of that.

Q: Does the number of inmate assaults [at USP Florence] cause you any concern?

A: Not particularly.-- Examination of Thomas Werlich, social science research analyst, BOP

A few weeks before Tony Francis was moved there, Florence had been rocked by two inmate murders, one right after the other, just like Lewisburg. But the Florence killings had nothing to do with race. They were about snitching.

On January 16, 1997, Maynard Campbell, a 55-year-old inmate with ties to militia groups, was stabbed to death. Campbell was a white separatist serving a ten-year sentence stemming from a land dispute with federal officials in Oregon, but his death wasn't a result of his political views. He had refused to leave the cell when two inmates dropped by to accuse his roommate, Greg Kuban, of being an informant.

Campbell was stabbed 27 times. Kuban was wounded but managed to flee and summon help. A cellmate of one of the men charged with the crime, Douglas Black, would subsequently file an affidavit in the case claiming that Black had described the attack to him in detail: "Doug Black told this writer that Greg Cuban [sic] told him he told on people in the prison bakery for making wine, and Doug Black said he thinks Cuban was ratting people out to a counselor...He told other people what Cuban told him about snitching on people, [and] a bunch of people "pulled fat boy up on it'...Fat boy Cuban told people that he was going to get Black, and for them to tell Black to "bring it to him.'

"Doug Black stated to this writer that his knife was about two foot long and said that fat boy almost had a heart attack when he pulled it out of his pants...He don't know how he lived because he "punched' Cuban full of holes...Cuban broke loose and made it out of the cell and shit all over himself. Doug Black told this writer that the "ex-cop' [Campbell] would not mind his own business and leave the cell like he was told to because the problem was between Black and Cuban only, but that Campbell tried to play hero."

Black was already facing a life sentence for murder in Massachusetts in addition to his federal time. He accepted a plea bargain in the slaying that resulted in a seven-year sentence for assault. His accomplice, Steven Riddle, who did most of the stabbing of Campbell, accepted a plea deal that netted him ten years for manslaughter.

Five days after the Campbell slaying, a corrections officer in the SHU made another grisly discovery. A drug smuggler and undocumented alien named Mirssa Araiza-Reyes beckoned the officer into his cell, took him to his cellmate's bunk and raised the sheets. The body was discolored and had been dead for some time.

"I did what I had to do," Araiza-Reyes told the officer. "I took care of that snitch for you."

Araiza-Reyes was serving time for illegal re-entry to the United States after having been deported to Mexico in connection with various felonies. He had an abiding hatred of informants and was known to compel his cellmates to sign a statement that they would not attempt to discuss his case with him. Months earlier, while confined at FCI Englewood, he'd been charged with attempted murder after he attacked a cellmate with a padlock and razor and sent him to the hospital. But that hadn't prevented him from having another cellmate in the SHU in Florence.

After supper on January 17, Araiza-Reyes got into an argument with his latest cellie, Frank Melendez, a cocaine dealer from California. Melendez suffered blows to his head, chest and knees; then he was strangled.

For four days, no one noticed. According to the paperwork kept by the staff in the SHU, Melendez went through numerous counts, received several meals, was taken to showers and to the exercise yard -- all while he was lying dead in his cell. The incident sparked an internal investigation of procedures in the SHU and statements by BOP officials that prisoners in the 23-hour-a-day lockdown unit would be monitored more closely.

"The notion that they protect the inmates from each other is a complete absurdity," says Araiza-Reyes's attorney, Philip DuBois. "On paper, the victim was present and accounted for something like twenty times after he was dead."

Araiza-Reyes wasn't charged with Melendez's death until almost eighteen months later. He pleaded guilty to voluntary manslaughter and received a sentence of eight and a half years.

Among the staff at Florence, the killing soon became known as "the Weekend at Bernie's incident," a reference to a feeble comic movie built around corpse humor.

Q: Do you consider yourself a Nazi?

A: National Socialist, absolutely. 'Nazi' is derogatory.

Q: Do you consider yourself a white supremist?

A: Absolutely.

Q: Do you consider yourself a skinhead?

A: Skinhead leader.

Q: How have you survived in the USPs?

A: Violence. I wouldn't say I have a lot of friends, but my enemies stay far away.

Q: And why is that?

A: Because they know what time it is.

Q: If a black inmate inmate is assaulting a white inmate on the yard, will you go to the aid of the white inmate?

A: It depends on what this white inmate is. If he's a punk, if he sucks dick, if he takes it up the ass, no...If we see a weak, young white dude, sometimes we try to pull him up, make a man of him. If he comes in wearing panties, we ain't got nothing for him. He falls by the wayside. He becomes a victim.

Q: A victim of what?

A: Homosexuality. Violence. Extortion. It's an environment where only the strong survive. There's no room for weakness. None.-- Examination of Douglas "Saxon" Taylor, convicted bank robber and USP inmate

On August 28, 1997, the Aryan Brotherhood exacted payback from the DC Blacks in their ongoing race war. Abdul Salaam, a black leader at Lewisburg, and his roommate, Frank Joyner, were stabbed to death in their cell by three white inmates linked to the AB. According to Francis attorney Janine Yunker, the murders were the culmination of "a one-year period of retaliatory killings in U.S. penitentiaries throughout the country."

Until that day, Tony Francis's life at Florence had been uneventful. But that quickly changed. Salaam had only recently arrived at Lewisburg; before that, he'd been a popular prisoner at Florence. His killers had also come from Florence. The warden of Lewisburg would later state that he had "absolutely no doubt" that the murders of Salaam and Joyner had been ordered by AB leaders in Florence.

And here was Tony Francis, a new guy from Lewisburg who'd landed in Florence, where Salaam still had a lot of friends. A new white guy from Lewisburg who was supposed to be an Aryan Brotherhood hotshot.

Florence was locked down for several days following the Lewisburg murders. The warden's office was inundated with snitch reports -- claims that one inmate or another was going to be hit, or that there was going to be a "diversion" in one unit and a massacre in another. A shakedown of cells turned up nine weapons. A search of the yard and other common areas turned up ten more.

When the lockdown ended and inmates were allowed back on the yard, fear was everywhere. Whites huddled with whites, blacks with blacks, eyeing each other. "It was tense," Francis testified. "Everybody was waiting for something to happen."

Several days into the standoff, three black inmates Francis had never seen before approached him on the yard. "They said they saw me on America's Most Wanted and that when the shit jumps off, I'd know what time it was."

"What did you understand that to mean?" Yunker asked him.

"If there was going to be a war, I was going to be one of the first ones targeted."

Francis said that he later approached one of the men who'd threatened him while he was working out at the weight pile. He tried to tell the man that the TV report was wrong -- he wasn't AB or any kind of gang member. The man didn't seem to care. Confessing he wasn't AB may have actually made things worse for Francis; it meant he had no backup. Or, as Saxon Taylor explained it to the Francis jury: "If you're a skinhead or AB, you might be a target, but they know they can't move on you without retaliation. But if you're labeled that and you're not, you're in a wreck."

Federal prosecutor Tim Neff suggested that Francis should have reported the threat to authorities. But seeking protective custody in the SHU -- a process known as "PC-ing" or "checking in" -- was never an option, Francis insisted, for a variety of reasons.

"The rumor [about being a gang member] was, I feel, started by the BOP in the first place," he said. "I didn't see how I could go to them. And protective custody -- it's not secure. It's not protection."

Francis knew what every convict knows: Anybody who checks in, whatever the reason, is considered a snitch. A check-in is collaborating with the guards and therefore can't be trusted. He has violated the convicts' code, which, according to Joseph Leissler, has one paramount rule: "Not to be a rat, number one. People place themselves in PC because they owe money, or fear for their lives, or something happens and they're not man enough to deal with it. They have no code of honor. They would sell their own mother out."

Francis knew that if he was tagged as a snitch, he would become even more of a target -- not only for the blacks, but for the white gangs as well. Although there are federal prisoners who serve almost their entire sentence in protective custody, Francis figured he couldn't stay out of reach of so many possible enemies forever. He had read about a riot at a state prison in Montana in which marauders had broken into the SHU with the express purpose of murdering the snitches.

At Florence, it wouldn't be nearly that difficult. In federal pens, the SHU doesn't just house check-ins; it's also where the BOP seeks to isolate gang leaders and discipline cases. The ten penitentiaries now have a population that's more than 50 percent over the intended capacity; USP Florence, originally designed for 586 inmates, has close to 1,000. The overcrowding means it's almost impossible to obtain a single cell, even as a protective-custody case. Double-celling, even triple-celling, isn't unusual in the SHU, and the guards don't always keep track of which inmates are supposed to be isolated from one another. A check-in just has to pray that he isn't bunking with his worst nightmare, someone like Mirssa Araiza-Reyes.

Or, for that matter, someone like Saxon Taylor, or any other adherent to the convict code. "Any time you see a check-in, you're obligated to split their metal," Taylor declared.

Joseph Leissler has spent roughly half his prison time in the SHU. But that was because of disciplinary reasons, not because he checked in voluntarily. Last year he was put in a cell in Florence with an inmate who, when he was ordered to return to general population, refused to go. That was all Leissler had to hear to know that his cellmate was a check-in. "He PC'd up right in front of my face," Leissler recalled. "I did what I had to do." Leissler was charged with assault for attacking his cellmate. He spent some more time in the hole, then was moved from Florence to Leavenworth.

In other cases, inmates in lockdown are put in jeopardy by the very guards who are supposed to protect them. A group of corrections officers who worked in the SHU in Florence, a group known as "The Cowboys," is currently under investigation by the Justice Department for allegedly beating prisoners ("Fight Club," December 16, 1999). And instances of guards placing members of rival gangs together in enclosed arenas, like gladiators, have been reported even in the federal supermax, ADX.

(One example of what David Lane calls "BOP cockfighting" was presented at the Francis trial. Robert Jones, a black ADX inmate, was attacked in the spring of 1998 by an "Aryan Nations guy," who slashed him in the face with a razor. According to Jones, the attack occurred in a narrow sallyport on the way to the exercise yard and went on for several minutes before guards intervened. Asked why a total stranger would attack him, Jones responded, "The race war. That was his duty. That was his job." Lane is now representing Jones in a lawsuit against the BOP.)

Some prisoners go to great lengths to get removed from the general population without being labeled a snitch. They drop an anonymous note for the guards to find, declaring that a certain inmate is in danger and should be placed in the SHU, or they start a fight with a cellmate, or halfheartedly stab a stranger. But these "check-in moves" are usually transparent.

"I don't care how you check in -- it's always found out," said Paul Chartier, a career felon who's spent close to thirty years in state and federal prisons. "It's going to follow you. You get messed up. You get killed."

A tough-talking, shaved-head, mustachioed figure with an uncanny resemblance to G. Gordon Liddy, Chartier was one of the white inmates Francis approached for advice about the threat he'd received. "I told him what he had to do," Chartier recalled. "I told him to get a knife and hope he lived through the stabbing."

Chartier's advice was echoed by other prisoners whom Francis consulted, including Joseph McGee and Taylor, the skinhead leader. Earlier, McGee had jammed up Francis about the rumors that he was AB. Francis peed; in other words, he denied it.

"I wanted to find out who he was," McGee recalled. "He didn't give the proper response. There's a certain etiquette, a certain persona you have to put forth. He didn't have it."

When Francis told him about the threat on his life, McGee gave him a speech about the best defense being a good offense: "I grew up in prison. If you make me feel threatened, I'm not going to strap up and wait. I'm going to take it to you. That's what I told Tony: "Go deal with it right now. Don't let them bring it to you.' But Tony didn't want to accept the fact that he had to go take care of business."

Taylor offered to help Francis with his problems. He went to black gang leaders, men with names like "Pimp" and "C-Note," and satisfied himself that Francis was indeed a target. Then he offered Francis a deal: All Francis had to do was knife a black gang member, and Taylor and his people would back him up in the eruption that would follow.

In court, Taylor made no effort to conceal his disgust with Francis's response. "He did a lot of backstepping," he said. "Tony's a little bitch. He ain't about nothing. He ain't with nothing. He hides in his goddamn cell and reads books. But when the shit hits the fan, he wants some backup."

A couple of weeks after he was threatened on the yard, Francis had another visit from McGee, who showed him an official-looking typed form he said he'd obtained from a female guard. The "kite" appeared to be a report from an anonymous informant, identified only by a code number, and stated that if Tony Francis wasn't taken off the yard, he'd be stabbed.

Francis didn't know if the note was legitimate or concocted by McGee to pressure him into taking action. But checking in was clearly impossible. So was strapping up, as far as he was concerned. He wasn't afraid to defend himself, he insists, but he had less than five years left; stabbing someone could easily double his time. If the victim died, he might never get out or even live through the racial havoc that would follow.

It was time to figure out what time it was.

"I decided to do something I'd done before," Francis told his jury. "But I didn't think I could escape by myself."

Q: Would you agree that, from an inmate's perspective, USP Florence is a very dangerous place to be living?

A: I don't think I can speak from an inmate's perspective.-- Cross-examination of Louis Eichenlaub, former housing unit manager, USP Florence

Robert Haney is a lean, soft-spoken bank robber from North Carolina who's spent 21 years in federal custody and has at least another dozen to go. He is 44 years old, part Cherokee, and denies any gang affiliation. He has done time at five federal penitentiaries, including Florence -- where, by some accounts, he was Tony Francis's only friend.

Haney first met Francis in 1991. They lifted weights together at Lewisburg, played handball together after Francis showed up at Florence. When Francis told him about the threat on his life, Haney offered to "get some knives" and stand by him.

"Tony didn't want to do that," Haney said. "I could kind of understand. If I had five years left instead of fifteen, I don't know what I would have done."

What Tony wanted to do was escape. Haney wasn't exactly wild about going along -- "If I wanted to escape, I wouldn't have waited until I got to the highest-security pen I've ever been in," he said -- but he agreed to help with the plan.

Francis was an orderly on his unit and had ready access to most of what he needed, including bedsheets, shoelaces, belts and broom handles. He dyed the sheets brown for camouflage material, made poles out of the broom handles and asked Haney to sew together the belts, which he planned to fashion into ladders.

On October 3, Francis hauled the equipment to a hiding place on the yard, making several trips. To his amazement, no guard challenged him. When the yard closed at seven that night, he and Haney concealed themselves. Soon they were alone. But it was at that point, somewhere between seven and eight o'clock, that Haney announced he wasn't going over the wall.

Francis was furious. He couldn't make it without Haney's help. But Haney told him he was deluding himself, that they were almost certain to get caught and possibly shot by guards in the towers as soon as they climbed to the roof. The two argued heatedly.

Haney's counterproposal was simple: All the escape jazz made for a perfect check-in move. If they were found on the yard, they'd get thrown in the SHU and possibly transferred to another prison. At the very least, they'd wind up in single cells for a while. No one would even suspect that it was a check-in. "All you got to do is get caught and they'll take you out of this mix," he said.

Francis decided Haney's plan made sense. He didn't have much choice; Haney made it clear that he would stop him if he tried to go over the wall. But getting caught was harder than it looked. They couldn't just run up to a guard. So for the next hour and a half they wandered around the yard, waving their poles around, standing in conspicuous places.

"We agreed to be seen but not to make it look like a check-in thing," Francis said. "But we weren't being seen. I guess the camouflage worked better than I thought. Officers walked by at a distance and didn't see us."

Finally, Officer Garcia came close enough to spot them, and Francis told him that they were Special Forces.

"Those were the words of an exasperated man," Francis explained in court. "The officer asked me, "What are you doing?' It seemed like the stupidest question I ever heard."

Q: What about protective custody?

A: It looks good on paper. "He's in protective custody' -- but he's in the SHU with anybody and everybody. There's people been beat, stabbed, or sliced. It's because it became known he was a snitch, a check-in. It's a common occurrence. A new guy comes in, you ask, "What are you in for?' "I don't want to talk about it' -- that's a clue. "Well, let me see your paperwork.' If he refuses to go back to general population, he's no good. If you're weak enough to check in, you're weak enough to tell [inform]. I don't want you around.-- Cross-examination of Robert Haney

Last October there was another murder in the SHU at Florence. The killing and gutting of Joey Estrella, convicted bank robber, took considerable time and resolve.

The Estrella slaying is remarkable not only for its savagery but for the complete absence of any staff intervention in the slaughter -- despite the increased monitoring of the SHU that was promised after the Melendez murder two years earlier; despite the supposed cleanup of the unit that was supposed to be a result of the Justice Department investigation into staff corruption and abuse of inmates.

No charges have been filed yet in Estrella's death. Prosecutors take their sweet time seeking justice for dead inmates, reasoning that the killers aren't going anywhere. BOP officials say they can't comment on a pending investigation and refer inquiries to the FBI, which will say only that the investigation is continuing.

The killing was so grotesque, though, that it quickly became the stuff of bloody folklore among prisoners and guards alike. One rumor had it that a couple of Hannibal Lecters had killed Estrella and devoured his liver, in full view of a grossed-out audience in the SHU. Another version, popular among corrections officers, had it that Estrella was shooting heroin with two prisoners from Guam and had swallowed a balloon of the drug for safekeeping. When he had difficulty passing the balloon, his two impatient roommates decided to perform surgery and extract it themselves.

Estrella's autopsy report doesn't quite support either scenario. His throat was cut and he was eviscerated -- stomach split open, intestines hanging out, liver and spleen removed. The excised organs were found near his body, but a piece of the liver was missing, and what remained had been "partially dissected" or possibly gnawed. There was no trace of drugs (packaged or not) in his system. He was, however, quite drunk.

A third theory of the crime, one that is more consistent with the autopsy report, states that Estrella was butchered by his cellmates because he'd been identified as a check-in. Before the killing, he begged a guard to move him to another cell but was ignored. Afterward, his cellmates held up pieces of him, showing them off to other inmates as an object lesson.

That was the version presented at the Francis trial by Skinhead leader Saxon Taylor, who happened to be in the SHU that night, stationed in a cell across the hall. His account was terse and unsentimental.

"That was intense," Taylor said. "Mexican dude came to the hole. Owed a little bit of money to some people. They put him in a cell with a savage -- this dude and his cousin -- right across the hall from me. Dude hollers to me, asks for some cigarettes. I slide them over on the line, see them drinking wine, playing cards. After a while, the word comes down that this new guy is no good.

"Ten o'clock count comes around. The Mexican dude says to the cop, "Hey, man, you got to get me another cell.' Cop laughs, says, "Who's winning?'

"Midnight count rolls around. Dude's liver is thrown on the window. Dude's intestines are hanging on the clothesline. His heart is on the table. Dude's dead."

Taylor was wrong about some details. Estrella's heart was still in his body, which was reportedly discovered around three in the morning, not midnight. But the prosecution didn't even bother to challenge the skinhead's account. Given the indisputable evidence of Estrella's corpse -- the blunt trauma to the head, the gaping wounds in the neck, the exquisite force and razor sharpness of the instruments required to invade his belly, ripping through a tattoo of the Virgin Mary to tug at the sacred mysteries inside -- who could argue the point?

The death of Joey Estrella spoke volumes about what can and does happen in the SHU. Tony Francis could not have had a more eloquent witness in his defense.

Q: Why is staff unable to stop the violence?

A: I think they can only control it at ADX. No human contact.

Q: Do you feel safe in a USP?

A: I feel safe when the door locks at night.-- Examination of Joseph Anthony Leissler, convicted murderer and USP inmate

"This is huge. Nobody knows of a verdict like this. This is an explicit statement that the Bureau of Prisons is not doing its job."

Surrounded by boxes of court records and transcripts, David Lane sits in his office in downtown Denver, fielding phone calls and discussing the verdict in the Francis case. On April 29 the jury found Francis and Haney not guilty of attempted escape. The two men were convicted of the lesser charge of possession of escape paraphernalia. Now Lane is rapid-dialing prosecutors and the judge's chambers; he and Janine Yunker are trying to block a BOP move to transfer their clients back to Florence prior to their sentencing, which has not yet been scheduled.

To Lane, the mixed verdict is a stunning victory. The jury specifically found Tony Francis not guilty of attempted escape by reason of duress, meaning that they believed he was in danger of immediate harm and had no other reasonable options available to save his life. "I don't know of any case where there has been an acquittal for attempted escape from a USP based on anything, much less duress or coercion," Lane says. "This is a jury statement that the BOP runs a system that is incapable of mitigating the violence that exists there."

Yunker agrees. "The government may feel they have all these options for people to protect themselves, but they don't really deal with the world that convicts live in," she says. "Tony Francis chose not to live in that world as a snitch."

Ray Holt, the warden of USP Florence, declined a request for comment on the Francis case. A spokesman for the United States Attorney's Office says that prosecutors are satisfied with the verdict, since both men were convicted of a felony that could add up to five years to their time. (In light of federal sentencing guidelines, Lane and Yunker say they expect the actual sentence to be much less than the maximum.)

Yet there are aspects of Tony Francis's prison career that the jury knew nothing about. In addition to the 1990 attempted escape from a federal pen and his 1993 flight from the Phoenix jail, prosecutors had evidence that Francis had been involved in at least three other escape attempts. In 1994, after Francis had been recaptured and returned to a cell in Maricopa County, the hinges on a steel door in the jail were found to have been cut through; metal shavings were found in Francis's cell. Later that same year, a search of his cell at Lewisburg turned up two handcuff keys. In 1996, a search of a Lewisburg recreation area netted a sheet rope, a coat that had been given the camouflage treatment with paint and grass, and other materials; Francis was a prime suspect.

In several of these instances, though, the evidence linking Francis to the paraphernalia was so weak that prison officials never pursued it, and Judge Wiley Daniel barred the prosecution from introducing its suspicions at trial. Yunker argues that the government was able to present its strongest evidence of prior bad acts, including the 1993 escape, and it still didn't matter; ultimately, what counted was the situation Francis was facing at Florence in the wake of the Lewisburg murders.

The race war that raged in the federal prison system in 1997 seems to have subsided over the past two years. Some inmates say it's still going on and will never stop. Francis and Haney have spent most of that time in single cells in the SHU of the federal prison in Englewood. No privileges. No cellmates. No danger.

Although Judge Daniel granted the defense attorneys' motion not to send their clients back to Florence before sentencing, Francis and Haney had already been moved back to the USP by the time the order was issued. Yunker says the immediate threat of death has gone away, but that doesn't mean Francis will be able to ride out his federal stretch in perfect safety. "He still has a real concern that something will happen to him," she says. "The threats get buried, but they don't go away."

Neither do the killings. Last month there was another homicide in the SHU at Florence. As with the Estrella case, the matter is still under investigation by the FBI, and few details have been released, other than the victim's name: James Curtis Martin, 33, serving a sentence of up to 95 years for two counts of second-degree murder. According to the autopsy report, he was stabbed in the neck and strangled.

There, but for the grace of Special Forces, goes Tony Francis.

Anonymous said...

Gava Joe, don Q, Norwalquero, Senor Wally, Mucho gucho to have you batos back. Hopefully we got rid of all the riff-raff. I was tripping on a couple of post I read
"I am 24, not much of a youngster anymore"
if he aint much of a youngster anymore I must be old man time.
"WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON IN ORANGE COUNTY I AM 35 YEARS OLD VETERANO"
Imagine that a 35 year old veterano, veterano of what? Jr. high school?
Ok maybe we did not get rid of all the riff-raff. Damn these chavalones are something else, that "crystal" is a motherfucker, even the homies who were all whacked out on that PCP were a few brain cells smarter then the mocosoos from today, and the pintas are busting at the seams, full to the max with these youngsters who in some cases havent had pussy since pussy had them. Chingado, como me ahuito, so I'll stop now.

"ay te miro chamiro"

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Wally do read any of these posts?

Answer: yes, as evinced by this earlier post.



Tuesday, May 31, 2005

PLEASE SHOW THIS SITE SOME RESPECT
The free exchange of opinions and observations is one of the reasons I started this site. I'm especially gratified to see that a number of the comments to the posts come from people who have come up in the neighborhoods and been through the system. For the most part, the comments are informative and provide the sort of insight that can only come from those who have been there and back. I'm grateful to people who can contribute without resorting to profanity and don't throw fat on the fire of north/south, black/brown animosity. Or for that matter, advocating any form or violence or prejudice.

I've noticed a battle going on in the comments that has no place on this site. I'm not a prude and I'll tolerate a certain amount of profanity. Especially if it's clever and used like a scalpel instead of a sledgehammer. What won't happen here is hate.

If you claim a neighborhood and want to put that in your comment, go ahead. But I won't allow challenges and cyberspace mad dogging. Keep the fights off this site. There are plenty of places on the internet where you can do that. Frankly, they're boring and do nothing to further the outside world's understanding of what's what.

Please don't ruin this place for everybody else. If you've got something to say, do it the right way. Speak your mind but don't add to problem. Don't put me in the position of being a censor. There's already enough of that.

posted by Wally | 8:42 PM

Anonymous said...

Miro Chamiro

You complain about thr Riff Raff here but there you go disrespecting Youngster With Game and the 35 year old veterano.You are contributing to the Riff Raff.Both of those vato's had alot more to say in thier comments than you did. All you did was come up on here disrespecting people with good comments with your shit talk old man time.Maybe you grew up in the day's where if you had pedo you would nuckle up and throw some chingasos, but in this day and age you get stabbed or shot and Yes I do believe you could consider a 35 year old a veterano.
Kick rocks Riff Raff.

R2K said...

Your comments are the key: it has become a forum.

Anonymous said...

So what does Miro Chamiro's lame comments have to do with smog in L.A.?

Anonymous said...

Chamiro what is your point?

I been reading this site for 3 years and I never complain about all the stupid comments about what neighborhood so and so is from or fuck you becasue of wah wah wah I always ignore them. I figured if we don't give them any attention they will get tired of commenting and finally leave. You being such a mature "VET" you should realize that. I never seen you post much on here there are alot of new handles on this blog some with good info and some who just like to break balls. It is unfortunate this blog turn to crap wally used to post something new all time and the blog wasn't so saturated with crap that you couldn't read the interesting posts. I don't even read this blog anymore because I never see anything that interests me from wally(which I don't believe is the original guy anymore) or any of the new contributers. I just read the net banging and complaints about what is not righteous. So instead of complaining chamiro do something about it, make a healthy contribution to the site and try and get it back on track.

Like one of the older homies from my neighborhood told me when I was younger "If you are not gonna do anything about it shut up and don't complain"

"Youngster with Game"

Ezekiel Jenkins said...

Mexican Mafia suspect caught

By Gerard MacCrossan
The Daily Times

Published May 26, 2006

The last man sought by authorities in connection with Mexican Mafia organized crime in Kerr County was arrested Wednesday in Boerne.

Moses Hernandez, 27, skipped town after being indicted by the 198th Judicial District grand jury for engaging in organized criminal activity and robbery. He also was wanted by U.S. Marshals for violation of parole on aggravated assault charges.

Hernandez was spotted in the Taco Cabana in Boerne by Jose Barreto, a former narcotics officer based in Kerr County, who now works in Kendall County.

Ezekiel Jenkins said...

Mexican Mafia members could have death penalty
By JOANN DELUNA
Valley Morning Star

June 15, 2006 — Prosecutors are expected to announce whether they will seek the death penalty against three reputed Mexican Mafia gang members at hearing later this month.

A special grand jury this week upgraded charges to capital murder against three of the 10 alleged gang members accused in the 2003 killing of Jo Ann Chavez of Harlingen.

During a status hearing Wednesday in the 197th District Court, Judge Migdalia Lopez said she will hold a pre-trial conference June 27 in Raymondville.

During that hearing, the District Attorney’s Office is expected to announce whether prosecutors will seek the death penalty, Lopez said.

Also during that hearing, all 10 defendants will be formally arraigned on new charges. All 10 were named in a superceding indictment Monday accusing them of engaging in organized criminal activity.

Lopez also is expected to hear arguments on a motion by defense attorneys to move the trial from Brownsville to Raymondville.

But before she set the hearing date, Lopez reminded attorneys of her order not to speak to the news media.

Four of the five lawyers present verbally consented to the gag order, but defense attorney Larry Warner requested a written specification of Lopez’s order.

“The horse is already out of the barn, your honor,” Warner told Lopez.

Lopez said the order was put into place so that the defendants could get a fair trial.

During the hearing, Lopez and Sheriff Omar Lucio also listened to the defendants’ complaints about their jail cells.

Most of the complaints were similar and included the lack of proper ventilation and air conditioning, pests, no television, and solitary confinement.

Lopez ordered the sheriff to meet with the defendants’ lawyers individually and discuss their concerns.

Anonymous said...

It is a blessing to see some of you respecting this site and contributing some good posts and information. Please keep it up. Thank you Youngster with Game, and many others. Keep it homes. And to the Maravilla vato, try to contribute some insight and correspond properly and with respect, belive me it reflects on your neighborhood as well as you.

-Jose619

Ezekiel Jenkins said...

Police Use RICO to Dismantle Mexican Mafia
June 18, 2006 03:24 PM EST

by Jim Kouri - SAN DIEGO, CA -- San Diego police and federal law enforcement are in the midst of a major crackdown on the Mexican Mafia in several neighborhoods in that city. Most of the members of the deadly gang are illegal aliens, police say.

As part of what they characterize as an intense operation, US law enforcement authorities indicted 36 alleged members or associates of the Mexican Mafia using a Racketeering Influence and Criminal Organization statute on Friday, said police sources told this writer.

Federal officials predict that this major anti-crime operation would be "the beginning of the end" of the violent gang. Charges brought against those indicted include racketeering, murder, drug trafficking, robbery, extortion, money laundering, and conspiracy to commit murder.

Sixteen of the 36 were already in state prison -- some serving life sentences -- but were able to order killings and drug deals by smuggling out coded messages, often with the help of wives or girlfriends, according the indictment. Only four of the 36 indicted are still fugitives.

As opposed to being incarcerated in a state corrections facility, under a federal indictment, prisoners can be moved to federal prison facilities anywhere in the United States, making it more difficult for gangsters to communicate with their associates outside.

This indictment represents the first time that officials in San Diego County have used the federal Racketeering Influenced and Corrupt Organization statute to attack the Mexican Mafia, according to sources close to the investigation.

In addition to those being incarcerated or tried in federal court, illegal aliens from Mexico who are part of the gang or known associates of the Mexican Mafia may be picked up by agents from Immigration and Customs Enforcement for processing to be deported.

Anonymous said...

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. June 21 — A gunfight broke out this morning in a federal prison here between federal agents and prison guards, as the agents tried to arrest six guards on charges that they traded alcohol and drugs for sex with female prisoners.

When the shooting ended, two people were left dead. One was a federal law enforcement agent, and the other was one of the six men being arrested. Another person was wounded, and was taken to a nearby hospital for treatment.

The names of the dead and injured have not yet been released. The six guards who were to be arrested were identified in court papers as Alfred Barnes, Gregory Dixon, Ralph Hill, Vincent Johnson, Alan Moore and E. Lavon Spence.

The shooting erupted at 7:42 a.m., according to Michael Folmer, the special agent in charge of the Federal Bureau of Investigation office in Jacksonville. He said the arrests followed a yearlong investigation conducted by the Federal Bureau of Prisons, the Department of Justice and the F.B.I.

He said the six guards were indicted on Tuesday on charges of conspiracy to commit acts of bribery, witness tampering, mail fraud and interstate transportation in aid of racketeering. Those charges involve maximum sentences of 20 years in prison.

"Actually, what this involved is the defendants using their official positions to obtain money from inmates in exchange for introducing contraband into the prison," he said at a news briefing here.

An F.B.I. spokesman, John Girgenti, said that when federal agents and Justice Department investigators arrived at the prison, one of the indicted guards shot a federal corrections officer, The Associated Press reported. He said the officers fired back.

"The community is safe, the institution is in lockdown status," Carla Wilson, a spokeswoman for the Bureau of Prisons. was quoted by The A.P. as saying.

The prison, known formally as the Federal Correctional Institution in Tallahassee, is a low security facility with adjacent detention centers for men and women. It now houses 1,445 inmates in all, and it is located about three miles east of downtown Tallahassee.

Anonymous said...

I am sure alot of you guys have checked out the L.A. weekley article "Avenues of death" but, here is the link for those who haven't

http://www.laweekly.com/general/features/avenues-of-death/456/

"Youngster with Game"

Ezekiel Jenkins said...

• In Los Angeles, 95 percent of all outstanding warrants for homicide (which total 1,200 to 1,500) target illegal aliens. Up to two-thirds of all fugitive felony warrants (17,000) are for illegal aliens.

• A confidential California Department of Justice study reported in 1995 that 60 percent of the 20,000-strong 18th Street Gang in southern California is illegal; police officers say the proportion is actually much greater. The bloody gang collaborates with the Mexican Mafia, the dominant force in California prisons, on complex drug-distribution schemes, extortion, and drive-by assassinations, and commits an assault or robbery every day in L.A. County. The gang has grown dramatically over the last two decades by recruiting recently arrived youngsters, most of them illegal, from Central America and Mexico.

• The leadership of the Columbia Lil’ Cycos gang, which uses murder and racketeering to control the drug market around L.A.’s MacArthur Park, was about 60 percent illegal in 2002, says former assistant U.S. attorney Luis Li. Francisco Martinez, a Mexican Mafia member and an illegal alien, controlled the gang from prison, while serving time for felonious reentry following deportation.

Anonymous said...

A pretty good article about
"The Brand" with good pictures of Mills and the "Hulk".

http://www.ocweekly.com/news/news/monsters-ball/24744/

"Youngster with Game"

Anonymous said...

orale pac man Q-vo?

Anonymous said...

L said...
Early on in his tenure, a heckler yelled at Bratton to control his cops. Bratton responded with, "Control your children."

*******************
This has to be one of the best comments I've ever heard from an LAPD police chief. I completely agree.

People wouldn't need to worry about police brutality as much if they weren't breaking the law. I fully understand that some brutality is race related, but your chance of being a victim drops dramaticlly if you aren't committing crimes.

As for the Nation of Islam? Talk about your gutter religions. This has to be the biggest joke of religion even eclipsing Wicca on the lunacy scale.

Ezekiel Jenkins said...

Prison gangs a problem in Humboldt County too
by Christine Bensen-Messinger, 6/7/2006 The Eureka Reporter.

While many Humboldt County residents think of gangs as a problem in big cities such as Oakland or Los Angeles, three officers who work in the Humboldt County jail said during a presentation Monday afternoon that in the past five years gangs have started to become a problem here as well.

With Pelican Bay Prison, the state’s highest security prison, located just miles outside of Crescent City, and the jail often serving as a holding place for inmates on their way to state prison, Senior Correctional Officer Jason Benge said more people than county residents might care to acknowledge are affiliated with prison gangs.

“A large majority of our populous has spent time in state prison,” said Humboldt County Sheriff Gary Philp.

In a slide show presented to the Rotary Club of Eureka by Humboldt County Sheriff’s Sgt. Marco Luna, Benge and Correctional Officer Jeff Dishmon, many gang-affiliated inmates’ faces were blacked out because they are local residents.

There are five validated gangs in the California Department of Corrections: the Aryan Brotherhood, the Nazi Lowriders, Nuestra Familia, Black Guerrilla Family and the Mexican Mafia.

Benge said when an inmate is brought into the county jail he or she is interviewed by officers who have the ability to determine whether he or she is involved in a gang.

“A lot of them aren’t afraid to tell you they’re in a gang,” he said, adding that they are concerned about being housed with opposing gang members.

“We have to determine who they can go with (and) if they’re a heavy enough hitter, we have to isolate them,” Luna said.

While there are five validated prison gangs in the state, Dishmon said there are 11 local street gangs, many of whose members end up in the county jail at some point.

Benge said those gangs are referred to as “disruptive groups” and are the “muscles for the validated prison gangs,” whose members are locked down.

Officers use the definition given in the California Penal Code to determine whether an inmate is affiliated in a gang.

Penal Code 186.22 (a) states: “Any person who actively participates in any criminal street gang with knowledge that its members engage in or have engaged in a pattern of criminal gang activity, and who willfully promotes, furthers, or assists in any felonious criminal conduct by members of that gang.”

If a person is charged with a crime and a gang enhancement can be added and proven, his or her sentence will be longer.

“(That penal code is) how all the people I work with make the gang crimes stick against people,” Dishmon said.

Of the five gangs “validated” by the CDC, the Aryan Brotherhood originated in 1967 at San Quentin State Prison and includes white males, Benge said.

The Nazi Lowriders first organized in the California Youth Authority in the mid 1970s. They are primarily found in Southern California, Dishmon said.

The Black Guerilla Family originated in 1966 at San Quentin State Prison. It was founded by former Black Panther George L. Jackson, Benge said.

“They’re kind of slowly fading away,” he said.

The Mexican Mafia, which Dishmon referred to as “one of the most notorious gangs out there,” originated in 1957 at the Deuel Vocational Institute, a youth offenders’ facility in Tracy, Calif.

La Nuestra Familia originated in the 1960s in Soledad State Prison.

“La Nuestra Familia, they’re the farm workers,” Benge said. “The Mexican Mafia, they’re … the people on the streets.”

While their signs and symbols differ, he said, most gangs use numbers and other symbols to identify themselves.

“You’ve got these guys who put (these symbols) on their bodies and when they walk across the prison yard they show off as much of it as they can,” Benge said.

The reason it is important for county residents to be aware of these gangs is because at some point, most prisoners get out, he said.

“As we all know, these guys get out of our prison sometime or another, they get paroled,” Benge said. “I think (gangs) are becoming a bigger problem nationwide.”

dirty south gorilla said...

By Timothy "Syke" Williams

I am from the West Side Rollin 20s Blood and I am currently incarcerated for bank robbery. My earliest connection to gangs took place back in 1984 when I use to roll with Tony Chambers, aka Tee Lok (R.I.P). I used to coattail T Lok all around the neighborhood, hustling, pumping gas, playing video games and being introduced to all the older homies which became my future big homies. From that point on I admired their styles and way of life.

By 1985, I jumped into the activities head first, and was soon initiated into becoming a full fledged gang member from Rollin’ 20s Blood. I loved that “all for one and one for all” feeling I felt being around my homies. I went on my first drive-by with two homies that I still admire and respect to this day: Big K Dogg and Lil K Dog. From that night on ward, I never looked back, and my thirst for representing Rollin 20s grew. But I soon found out and realized later, but much sooner than later, the game isn’t all glitter and gold. There was more to it that just saying “I am a Blood from R. 20s.” I was never forewarned about the trials and tribulations of being a gang member. I went to juvenile hall, then onto Camp Gonzales for 13 months where I was confronted about my gang membership and to where my courage was tested by Crips from all over Los Angeles. I was forced to either fight my enemies, or be labeled as a punk and coward, so I fought.

I got out of camp and still continued down the same path of gang bangin’ habits, which eventually landed me inside the Los Angeles County Jail, where if you as much as look like a Blood, the Crips would take you down hard unmercifully which is one reason its difficult being a Blood. We were housed all together in the Blood module, away from the threats from the main line, but even the Blood Module wasn’t all peaceful either. We fought amongst each other sometimes for various reasons, but for the most part we had and shared in the philosophy of “Blood Love.”

I am now in the penitentiary, which is literally and figuratively a “concrete Vietnam.” Inside these walls for the most part, Bloods and Crips, get along. Any problem that may arise amongst us is resolved swiftly. We CANNOT afford to beef with each other, due to the constant racial tension with Mexicans, Surenos, Skinheads and Nazi Lowriders. A race riot can jump off at the drop of a dime without any warning, therefore you have to be strong mentally and physically to deal any unforeseen circumstances. Nothing and no one can prepare a person for the trials of prison life or the sight of a friend laying in a casket because death and prison are synonomous with each other.

As they say in this old prison adage, “Walk slowly and drink plenty of water”….which means, if you walk slowly, you wont be rushing into any BS, and if you drink plenty of water, you wont have time to be talking yourself into some BS.

Anonymous said...

Zeke pasted:

La Nuestra Familia originated in the 1960s in Soledad State Prison.

“La Nuestra Familia, they’re the farm workers,” Benge said. “The Mexican Mafia, they’re … the people on the streets.”

Well there you have it. Even in the minds of these hacks the NF are "farmeros", mere peasants as compared to the smarter and more diabolical EME..

I suppose the good folks of Humboldt Co. deep in the Emerald Triangle will be more prone to trust a Familiano around their grow plots than a Big Homie because the 14er has roots to "farming".. Now THERE'S a stupid post. Beat that "S", or are you doing blurpies on your "yarda"?
GJ wo'nt cop to posting this....

Ezekiel Jenkins said...

by Eric Schlosser
In the hills east of Sacramento, California, Folsom State Prison stands beside a man-made lake, surrounded by granite walls built by inmate laborers. The gun towers have peaked roofs and Gothic stonework that give the prison the appearance of a medieval fortress, ominous and forbidding. For more than a century Folsom and San Quentin were the end of the line in California's penal system; they were the state's only maximum-security penitentiaries. During the early 1980s, as California's inmate population began to climb, Folsom became dangerously overcrowded. Fights between inmates ended in stabbings six or seven times a week. The poor sight lines within the old cellblocks put correctional officers at enormous risk. From 1984 to 1994 California built eight new maximum-security (Level 4) facilities. The bullet holes in the ceilings of Folsom's cellblocks, left by warning shots, are the last traces of the prison's violent years. Today Folsom is a medium-security (Level 2) facility, filled with the kind of inmates that correctional officers consider "soft." No one has been stabbed to death at Folsom in almost four years. Among its roughly 3,800 inmates are some 500 murderers, 250 child molesters, and an assortment of rapists, armed robbers, drug dealers, burglars, and petty thieves. The cells in Housing Unit 1 are stacked five stories high, like boxes in a vast warehouse; glimpses of hands and arms and faces, of flickering TV screens, are visible between the steel bars. Folsom now houses almost twice as many inmates as it was designed to hold. The machine shop at the prison, run by inmates, manufactures steel frames for double bunks—and triple bunks—in addition to license plates.

Anonymous said...

It's a cliché among correctional officers; the kind of thing you hear in every state in the country. The officers say they are serving time just like the inmates, they just do it in eight hour shifts.
No inmate comes in unless they come through Receiving. This is the starting point. And I'm going to be the first face you see when you come, and the last one to see when you leave. A lot of times I'm just the meanest person in the world. But my objective is to help. When he comes off that bus, he's got a different attitude. He's used to doing what he wants to do, when he wants to do it.

Anonymous said...

PLAYMATES AND CITRON HAVE A GREENLIGHT PENDEJOS BUT IF YOU DIDNT KNOW ITS BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT A TRUE SURENO.

Maravilloso said...

East Los Angeles has traditionally been the heart of the latin comunity in LosAngeles. Mexicans have been living there since the time when California was part of Mexico. Throughout LA county there are other comunities wich have a deep Mexican history; San Gabriel, San Fernando, Pacoima, Canoga Park, Pomona, Hawaiian Gardens, and many more; but East LA is the most urban and conglomerated. It is the densest gang region in the entire USA with the most gangs per square mile. There is about 200 gangs in a 10 mile radius.

Modern day gangs came from a phenomenom known as PACHUCOS or ZOOT SUITERS. They dressed in big suits with pants that were baggy and got narrower near the floor, with a long gold chain that arched from the belt and up into the pocket. The suits were worn in flashy colors and with felt hats, sometimes rounded on top. The pachucos lived by a code of honor and respect. They organized into clubs with ritualistic initiations. The jumping in method became the universal initiation for these clubs. These clubs were started as closley knit units wich were considered a second family to its members, and to many with problems at home it was considered their only family. Their was a huge cultural and generational gap between the pachucos and their parents. This is one of the main reasons they started.

As time passed these clubs started gaining popularity among the youth, and like all youth, they had fights. Fights were expected to be one on one and once and once the fight was over the problem was solved. Some groups blew the problems out of proportion and bitter rivalries bagan. At first the main disagreements were over the honor of their girlfriends or RUCAS. This is still a main reason today. Other times it was over popularity, who had the most firme carucha, who wore the best clothes, who had the finest ruca, or who was the best fighter. It was also regional at times, people on one side of town made fun of the styles people were wearing on the other side of town. These petty problems always occur in youth and it was no different with PACHUCOS.

What changed the face of pachuco clubs was the drugs and guns wich started coming in during the vietnam war.This was a very militant age and many BROWN PRIDE groups were born and eventually evolved into gangs. There were also many vatos wich had gone to war and come back trigger happy. Once killing your enemies became accepted the modern cholo was born. Dealing marijuana and carrying a cohete or gun became the norm. The introduction of crack and cacaine in LA speed up the process.

Drugs and prime drug markets became the new reason for war. The barrios of East LA began to turn a huge profit off slanging drugs. The whole time new gangs were being created to usurp old ones. One gang would get swept up by police and a new one would come up in its place. Then the members of the original one would come out of jail and try to win their neighborhood back. This went on for 30 years. Some gangs came to be greatly hated and people in their own hood didnt want to join them, so they created new ones. Some times these new ones would join up with other gangs for backup or convenience. The story of ELA is like the story of all the countries in this world. It is like a German confederation.
The first barrio in east LA is disputed between WHITE FENCE and MARAVILLA. White Fences' original barrio is all of Boyle Heights and allegedly used to have cliques throughout the San Gabriel Valley and Northeast LA. Marravillas' original barrio is ELA proper and most of South East LA extending to the Rio Hondo and south to Slauson. Maravilla too has cliques throughout SGV and the Inland Empire. These two gangs are the classic EastLos rivalrie and probably the longest going feud in LA. Both of these barrios have lost extensive territory and are midgets compared to their former size. In numbers though they are bigger than ever. I heard once that Hazards, Avenues, Toonerville, and Frogtown were all once cliques off of White Fence, and members from White Fence claim even more barrios broke off of them. Later gangs such as Michigan Chicano Force, Varrio Nuevo Estrada, and all the Flats sprung up in East LA.
NorthEastLA is another old region in LA barrios. Its most famous, and perhaps most infamous gang is the Avenues or Avenidas gang, wich is named after the numbered avenues off of Figueroa. They themselves are two ar even more gangs in one consisting of 43rd Avenue and Cypress Avenues. These two gangs at first did not get along but later joined together for convenience. The 43rd allegedly broke off of Hazards and the Cypress allegedly broke off of Frogtown. They are a very large gang in numbers and are the PDs worst nightmare. Another old NorthEast gang is Toonerville. Their relationship with Frogtown is hard to follow. Some say Toonerville started Frogtown, others say Frogtown started Toonerville, others say they had nothing to do with eachother. Some say Toonerville started The Rascals others say Frogtown did. This I believe is evidence that the two are interconected. Then some say they all started off of White Fence.

East LA gangs in general believe they are superior in culture and honor to West LA gangs. This is another ongoing feud in LA. It is hard to pinpoint an actual place and time to the birthplace of most East LA gangs due to their age. Most gangs atleast know of a year in wich they were started, and in EastLA the 70s is considered brand new. If your gang isnt four actual generations old... its considered a fad.

Many of the flats and East Sides of gangs wich were originally South Side are allegedly in former Maravilla territory. ES 38st and ES 22st are just some examples. The flats, mainly Primera and Tortilla, are the most active barrios in East Los now. Even gangs wich are adamantly West Side now have East Sides on the east side of the river, ES18st, ESC14st, and ESPlayboys. Now it is common practice to force tagging crews in the barrio to click up or get checked. This has been a great source for new drug dealing disciples. Some crews are so large that they are split between two or more barrios wich are sometimes enemies, such as OFA, wich got split between 18st, Clover, Lincoln Heights, Avenues, Burlington st, and many more barrios. AMK became a click of Primera Flats, calling themselves Avenue Marisol Krooks. Most gangs wich have a K as there last initial used to be crews such as, Tiny Insane Kriminals, and even Krazy Ass Mexicans.

Anonymous said...

In L.A., the MS-13 was cutting into the profits of long established Hispanic gangs. Gang meetings were held to decide how best to deal with the Salvadorans. A showdown was inevitable, and it happened on a balmy afternoon in a park frequented by MS-13 members and family who were having a picnic and drinking beer. Many of the other picnickers were Mexican American gang members. The Salvadorans decided to deride the other gang members by burning a Mexican flag they picked up.

The Maravilla, a pervasive L.A. based street gang that dates back to the 1920s, and which has about a dozen chapters were among those in attendance. Fights broke out, and Maravilla declared war on MS-13, as did the burgeoning Eighteenth Street gang. The long established Mexican Mafia got into the fray and subsequently demanded a 10% tax from MS-13 on all profits they gained from street crime. The Salvadorans told La eMe to go to hell. For the next year, the MS-13 fought a defensive battle against the others, but did not back down.

Their resolve so impressed La eMe, that a truce was called. Secret meetings were held between the two gangs. It was agreed that the Salvadorans would sell drugs and weapons for La eMe, and provide muscle and tax collectors. But the Maravilla, who would not call off the war, and who resented La eMe’s pact with MS-13, also refused to pay taxes. This became contentious with La eMe, who put out the green light on Maravilla. Today, in Los Angeles where Maravilla is entrenched, graffiti is splashed around proclaiming Maravilla is “TAX FREE.”

The MS-13 and Maravilla continued to wage war. Fighting between the two groups broke out in other cities where they had a presence, including Reno. In Reno, on August 13, 1995, Juan Mauricio Castillo, A.K.A. “Little Boy,” age 15, who was identified as an MS-13 gang member, fired a .380 pistol in the direction of rival Maravilla gang members who had gathered at Horseman’s Park to play soccer. Tragically, his aim was poor and the rounds went past them and struck a 12 year old girl in the head killing her.

At trial, Little Boy who had turned 16, was hammered with two life terms running wild. As of this writing he is confined at Ely state prison, resting well we hope.

Walter Mercado said...

The zoot suit was a style of clothing popularized by young male African Americans, Filipino Americans, and Mexican Americans during the 1930s and 1940s. A zoot suit consisted of very baggy high-waisted pants, pegged around the ankles, worn with a long jacket that came to below the knee. The jacket had high, wide shoulder pads that jetted out from the shoulder, giving the wearer a broad look. A long chain dangled from the belt, and the outfit was trimmed with thick-soled shoes and a wide-brimmed hat. It was the style of very hip cats. It is believed the style was created in the African-American community, and there are several stories as to where it actually originated.

A zoot suit. In the urban jazz culture of Harlem, the word "zoot" meant something exaggerated, either in style, sound, or performance. The style of dress was an extravagant style, out of proportion to the norm, and it later came to be known as the zoot suit, which consisted of "a killer-diller coat with a drape-shape, reat-pleats and shoulders padded like a lunatic's cell." The suit was for having fun, with the baggy pants made for dancing the jitterbug, and the long coat and the wide-brimmed hat giving the wearer a grown-up look. Many famous black entertainers and musicians wore the zoot suit. Duke Ellington performed at the Orpheum Theatre in Los Angeles in 1941 with a musical number called "Jump for Joy," and all his performers wore zoot suits. Cab Calloway wore a zoot suit in the 1943 film Stormy Weather.

One theory of the origins of the zoot suit was that it was imitated from the suit worn by Clark Cable in the movie Gone with the Wind. In fact, some people called them "Gone with the Wind suits." Others say that a big band leader and clothier, Harold C. Fox from Chicago, designed the first zoot suit. He said he copied the fashions of ghetto-dwelling teenagers, and in 1941 made such suits for musicians who wanted an "eye-poppin' style." When Fox died in 1996 at the age of 86, he was buried in a lavender zoot suit. The most believed story is one published in the New York Times in 1943 during the zoot suit riots taking place in Los Angeles, stating that a young African-American busboy from Gainesville, Georgia, placed an order with a tailor for what would be the "first zoot suit on record." Clyde Duncan ordered a suit with a 37-inch-long coat and with pants 26 inches at the knees and 14 inches at the ankle. Once the suit was made, the tailor took his picture and sent it to Men's Apparel Reporter, where the photo was printed.

On the West Coast, the suit came to be identified with young Mexican Americans, known as Pachucos. They were mostly second-generation Mexicans, the sons of working-class immigrants, who settled in Los Angeles. Pachucos created a subculture with a mysterious argot that incorporated archaic Spanish, modern Spanish, and English slang words. They dressed in zoot suits, creating a distinct style that identified them as neither Mexican nor American, but that emphasized their social detachment and isolation. Because there was a war going on, and there was conservation of fabric, wearing the zoot suit was considered an unpatriotic act. In the summer of 1943, while the whole country watched, gangs of sailors and zoot-suiters fought in the streets of Los Angeles. Outraged at the zoot suit style, sailors chased the zoot suiters through the streets and unclothed them. It is unclear if this was a race riot or a riot of patriotism by the sailors who attacked, beat, and stripped young Mexican Americans whom they perceived to be disloyal immigrants.

The zoot suit received wide attention and recognition in the 1970s with the production of the play Zoot Suit, written and produced by Luis Valdez. It was performed in Los Angeles and New York. A film of the play, with the same name, was released in 1981 with performances by actors Daniel Valdez and Edward James Olmos.

In the late 1990s, the zoot suit has had a rebirth with the revival of swing music—with imitations of Cab Calloway, the zoot suit, and the jump dance steps. From Chicago to San Francisco, twenty-somethings were dancing to big bands with names like Mighty Blue Kings, The Big Six, Bag Bad Voodoo Daddy, and Indigo Swing, who played swing music from the 1930s and 1940s. Part of the fun of this music was dancing at the big clubs and wearing the clothes to match.A 1996 article in the Los Angeles Times claimed that fashion designers such as Bill Blass and Ralph Lauren were picking up the zoot suit look in their fall designs, including wide jacket lapels and hip-chains, but not the big shoulders. In 1999, numerous suppliers of zoot suits and swing-style clothing were listed on the Internet.

Mr. s and Mr. :) - caballeros, come for your free fitting! I would love to measure your inseams.

Anonymous said...

Don Q, I just tripped when I listened. Wanted to share.
http://www.arhoolie.com/titles/7040.shtml

Listen to some of the tracks!!
(uses RealAudio®)
1. Pachuco Boogie by: Cuarteto Don Ramon Sr. (actually Don Tosti's Pachuco Boogie Boys)
2. Guisa Gacha (Mambo) by: Cuarteto Don Ramon Sr. (actually Don Tosti's Pachuco Boogie Boys)
3. Wine-O-Boogie by: Don Ramon Sr. y su orquesta (actually Don Tosti's Pachuco Boogie Boys)
4. El Tirili by: Don Ramon Sr. y su orquesta (actually Don Tosti's Pachuco Boogie Boys)
5. Pachuco Mambo (Mambo) by: Los Chucos
6. Los Pachucos (Canción) by: Las Hermanas Mendoza
7. El Bracero Y La Pachuca (Corrido) by: Dueto Taxco con Mariachi Caporales Del Norte
8. Solido Joaquin (Guaracha) by: Dacita & Her Orquesta
9. Frijole Boogie by: Jorge Córdoba
10. Muy Sabroso Blues by: Lalo Guerrero Y Sus Cinco Lobos
11. Los Chucos Suaves by: Lalo Guerrero Y Sus Cinco Lobos
12. Chicas Patas Boogie by: Lalo Guerrero Y Su Orquesta
13. Buena Vista Swing by: Conjunto Alamo
14. El Pachuco Alegre (Boogie) by: Los Hermanos Yañez y Pedro Ayala
15. Las Pachuquitas (instrumental) by: Conjunto San Antonio Alegre
16. Mi Dolorcito (Boogie) by: Conjunto San Antonio Alegre
17. Guisa Guaina by: Don Tosti Y Su Trío
18. Pachuco Boogie - (2nd recording) (2nd recording) by: Orquesta Don Ramon (actually Don Tosti's Pachuco Boogie Boys)
19. Los Blues by: Don Tosti y su Trío
20. Mambo Del Pachuco by: Don Tosti y su conjunto
21. Chicano Boogie by: Cuarteto De Ramon Martínez (actually Don Tosti's Quartet)

Anonymous said...

Zeke

I agree.That sounds just like a Gava Ho line. If I remember right when he first started commenting on here Gava claimed to be from up North.Now he comes on here trying to bash the North anytime he gets a chance.Some people just forget where they came from.This puto is over there sucking up that Kansas dustbowl air I think it's starting to affect his thinking.Maybe he needs a nice greased ice pick through the back of the ear to remind him of that Cali lifestyle.

Anonymous said...

http://nuestrafamiliaourfamily.org/

s said...

yeah S is back!yeah fools fuck your world! puro SUR13 !!! fucken chavalas trying speak up on me!!! yeah fools i still with the busness! to vato from oc you a straight leva ! keep all mighty out of our chops !!! SOLEDAD NORTH FACILITY runs BY SUR!!! youngster with chisme you truing to hard! fuck all of you pices of shit! you fools are descrece to our movement!!! puro SUR13!!! SUR BUENOS NOCHES!!!

Anonymous said...

Zeke is my german shepherds name.
He is smarter than you. Yikes Zeke!

Zeke Bratkowski - former QB for the green Bay Packers. Do you pack?

S said...

hOwdy DoowDy i eat my pOOpy.
I am tuuf He man. i can Do sit ups and bend My fingers amd chew gum at da same time. I am colegge material . I watch sesamee street and wear purple barney underwear

s said...

i think i have diarrea, im going to take some ex-lax to make it better!!! goodnight! puro SUR13!!! SUR BUENOS NOCHES!!!

s said...

yeah S is back!yeah fools fuck your cars! puro SUR13 !!! fucken waiters trying speak up on me!!! yeah academecians i still with the ice cream truck! to vato from beverly hills you a straight as an arrow ! keep all flies out of our pork chops !!! corner shoe shine run BY me !!! youngster with nike's you you have my attention. Puro chorizo!!!!!!!! puro's huevos!!!!!!!!! Que viva Gumby - Snoopy - barney!!!!!!!!!! Ay carajo- I accidently put nineral ice on my eyes YIKE ZEKE that hurts..

R2K said...

So has LA changed, in your mind, over the age of this blog?

s said...

Alex said...
So has LA changed, in your mind, over the age of this blog?

i can only speak 4 me, but there are more Nike stores now HeHeHe!!!!! And i am a more wild and crazy guy!!!!!! I only fear - fear!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Orale Raza I didnt mean to ruffle feathers, but if the zapatos fit wear'em! And I see a few batos found a nice comfy fit. All I was getting at is the fact that there are so many youngsters biting off way too much then they can chew without even knowing what they are getting themselves into and having to pay a high price for it in the long run, which by then is too late. I know kids 17, 18, years old who are never going to get out of prison, sure they thought they were gangsters or might still be acting like one now, but eventually they wake up and wonder "wtf did I get myself into" but by then its over,johnny. my point is, that Its not how it was before, these "gangsters" are locking it up over a hundred dollar debt, because of that crystal, and there scared of there own shadows, there are a few who got some good clesia from the old school homies, but that is a select few. And I havent run across any on this blog. So despensa if some of you got your pantys in a knot over what I wrote, after all its only a blog, no te ahuites.

"ay te miro chamiro"

s said...

"ay te miro chamiro"

i am lonely i dont have any friends. you wanna be my freind!!!!
is your name Ramiro? chamiro.

Anonymous said...

I KNOW AN 80 SOMETHING YEAR OLD GABACHO FROM BOYLE HEIGHTS (WINO), WHO NOW LIVES DOWNTOWN AT A SRO HOTEL AND HE USE TO CLAIM WHITE FENCE, BUT HE CONCEDES THAT THE MARAVILLA CLIQUES CAME BEFORE WHITE FENCE. LOOK THE VATO UP, HE'LL TELL YOU.

Anonymous said...

i'm glad mr s finally came out and gave up that other act, just be youself.

Anonymous said...

HE USE TO CLAIM WHITE FENCE, BUT HE CONCEDES THAT THE MARAVILLA CLIQUES CAME BEFORE WHITE FENCE. LOOK THE VATO UP, HE'LL TELL YOU.

LOL ... So, do we ask him AFTER a shot of wine ..... ? Or do we ask him BEFORE he's under the influence?

Anonymous said...

I understand exctly what you said right now but, I didn't get that from your other post.I am not mad either but, I will ask questions and voice my opinion when I feel I need to.

On your point about youngsters not knowing what they are getting into, that is very true. It is totally different out in the streets and has been over about the last 5 to 10 years(at least in my neighborhood). From what I have noticed is that the "Big Homies" have a stronger presence in varrios now. Everyone always knew who had the power but, now they have grown more and it seems like their representitives on the streets are staying out longer. Since they are staying out longer they are able to firmly plant the flag and get the neighborhoods in line. I know in my neighbor hood since "HOMIES" have been home things have been getting handle more efficiently and often. On the down side though is youngsters who are thinking they are just gonna represent their neighborhood with child hood friends are being jumped into an orginization where they will be a pawn. Little homies are getting sent out on missions that they are not capleable of handling(mostly because of age and ignorance) and alot of them are getting beatings or deaths sentences because they don't hanlde what was asked. Also alot of older homeboys are getting locked up and that leaves nobody to school the younger generation on how to act in the street or when they get busted. That is a huge problem because some dudes think just because their from the neighborhood they can tax people, rob and kill at will. If they had an older presence they would get schooled properly and become a good strong soldier for their varrio and the SUR and then be able to pass it down to the next generation properly. Not that I condone that life style because I myself have been working over these past few years on bettering myself but, that is the way I felt when I was hanging out in the neigborhood then and it is still the way I feel now. Alot of good dudes are doing football numbers and been tooken out just because they were never schooled properly. R.I.P to my friends who got caught up and didn't get the chance I have to improve themselves and the next generation of Raza.

"Youngster with Game"

Anonymous said...

From the Left Angeles Times:

"An 11-year-old boy was shot and killed Wednesday night on a San Bernardino middle school basketball court, the latest high-profile slaying to rattle a city struggling to stem its soaring crime rate.

The death of Anthony Michael Ramirez was San Bernardino's 28th slaying this year, prompting anguish from city leaders, who have made battling crime a focal point after the city last year averaged a murder a week.

"The death of an 11-year-old, it's just appalling," said Lt. Ernie Lemos, a San Bernardino police spokesman

Anthony was playing basketball with his brothers and some friends at Martin Luther King Jr. Middle School about 8:30 p.m. when, police said, two men approached them and asked where they were from.

The boys said "nowhere," according to police, and one of the men shot Anthony and his 13-year-old brother with a handgun.

A janitor heard the shots and ushered several other children into a school office until police arrived on the 1200 block of Medical Center Drive.

Anthony, a fifth-grader, was taken to Arrowhead Regional Medical Center, where he was pronounced dead at 9:08 p.m. His brother, whose name has not been released, was in stable condition.

A month ago, a 14-year-old boy was shot and killed just a few blocks away. Jarred Mitchell, a student at Martin Luther King Jr. Middle School, was killed in what investigators believed was a gang-related shooting."

Shooting an 11 year old with no gang affiliation... The heat that this is going to bring is bad for business. I would not be surprise to find the pinche penedejo that pulled the trigger tits up in the gutter.

Anonymous said...

CBS) LOS ANGELES Two gang members were convicted Thursday of first-degree murder for a July 2005 shooting death of an aspiring police officer in a Los Angeles supermarket parking lot.

A Los Angeles Superior Court jury found Joshua Mansion, 19, and Dwayne Wheeler, 21, guilty of the gang-related slaying of Loli Castaneda.

The 25-year-old man was shot inside his car at about 11:45 p.m. last July 28 in the parking lot of the Ralphs store at Vermont Avenue and Adams Boulevard in the University Park area near USC.

Along with the murder charge, the two men were convicted of attempted murder involving Castaneda's friend, who was slightly wounded by flying glass.

Castaneda and his friend had stopped at the market to buy some food after a late-night workout.

Castaneda had been an Explorer with the Los Angeles Police Department's 77th Street Division while in high school and had begun applying to become a police officer, police said.

Shortly after the shooting, then-police Commissioner Rick J. Caruso called Castaneda "a fine young man with a promising future" and said his killing was a "shocking and disturbing tragedy, like so many we have seen in this city."

Mansion and Wheeler are due back in Los Angeles Superior Court on Aug. 11 for sentencing.

They face 65 years to life in state prison.

Anonymous said...

What's the word on the much needed retribution regarding the Venice atrocity committed by the mayates? When are the Feds going to start handing out indictments against the tintos? They seem to have a thing for Whites and Hispanics.

Anonymous said...

The FEDs indict organized crime. The mayates are not organized. They more street level that need to be handled by local LE.

Anonymous said...

It was mayates who killed the youngster in Berdoo according to the CH.9 news last night. Monkeys acting up in the heat,first Venice,now twice in Berdoo

StillNoScript said...

What happened in Venice? It's being brought up in here a lot as of recent, but with no detail.

O C Half Breed said...
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O C Half Breed said...

I was just reading a lot of the comments on how the kids are now days and it's very true. Not just the kids claiming from varrios but all kids in general. They have much less respect for their elders and life in general, they don't give a fuck and everyone is quicker to shoot then to fight with fist.

There's a 10 year old kid in my varrio who got jumped into one of the local gangs that his bigger brother is in. Fucking 10 and they say the little shit is crazy, he's already going out on missions. The sad thing is the little crazy ones like that will be locked up for his whole life or dead by 15.

Anonymous said...

It is good to hear from Wally again. TJ, DQ, GJ, your doing well at keeping this blog from bogging down. As a retired one third timer in CDC, I got to tell you...that Florida Prison guard shooting is messed up. But hey, as you know, it can happen at any prison. No kidding. Cons and guards can tell many stories of C/O's going over the edge. In today climate of touchy-feely group hugs and fish cop tell-a-thons...it's not easy for guards to monitor (each other) and put their own in check. Shooting at their own..or other LEs? Anyway, it is not a reflection on their department...just their own person lack of pride/respect.
What's going on with the M? How many sets of car keys are there? So many to insure, if and when the car crashes. A calculated liability? "B.F.", a ranking AB...once told me that certain rides are ment to crash...to raise premiums! Tipped up, or tapped out? Who's got the keys...today?
X

Anonymous said...

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON IN ORANGE COUNTY I AM 35 YEARS OLD VETERANO

i been reading this post and i saw a little pendejo disrespecting and questioning about a 35 year old veterano and let me tell you something little pendejito at 30 you are consired by the older homies as a veterano i bet that at 35 he has done more work for the sur than you and for a varrio to disrespect they should get greenlighted havent they heard that veteranos have a pass out of respect.
damn little kids know a days no wonder most of these vatos end up death up state.

Anonymous said...

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>
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> school and other Title 1 schools are on the free
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> She was ordered to spend $700,000 on her department or
> risk losing funding for the upcoming year even though
> there was little need for anything; her budget was
> already substantial. She ended up buying new
> computers for their computer learning center; half of
> which, one month later, have been carved with graffiti
> by the appreciative students who obviously feel
> humbled and grateful to have a free education in
> America.
>
> She has had to intervene several times for young and
> substitute teachers whose classes consist of many
> illegal immigrant students here in the country less
> than 3 months who raised so much hell with the female
> teachers, calling them "Putas" - whores - and throwing
> things that the teachers were in tears.
>
> Free medical, free education, free food, day care,
> etc., etc., etc. Is it any wonder they feel entitled
> to not only be in this country but to demand rights,
> privileges and entitlements?
>
> To my bleeding-heart friends who want to point
> out how much these illegal immigrants contribute to
> our society because they LIKE their gardener and
> housekeeper and they like to pay less for tomatoes:
> spend some time in the real world of illegal
> immigration and see the TRUE costs. Higher insurance,
> medical facilities closing, higher medical costs, more
> crime, lower standards of education in our schools,
> overcrowding, new diseases, etc., etc., etc. For me,
> I'll pay more for tomatoes.
>
> We need to wake up. The guest worker program will be a
> disaster because we won't have the guts to enforce it.
> Does anyone in their right mind really think they
> will leave and return voluntarily? There are many
> hardworking Hispanic/American citizens that contribute
> to our country and many that I consider my true
> friends. We should encourage and accept those
> Hispanics who have done it the right and legal way.
>
> It does, however, have everything to do with culture:
> A third-world culture that does not value education,
> that accepts children getting pregnant and dropping
> out of school by 15 and who refuse to assimilate. . .
> and an American culture that has become so weak and
> politically correct that we don't have the will to do
> anything about it.
>

Anonymous said...

Florida Man Busted For Puppy Assault
Perv allegedly told cops, "It's my dog...what's the problem?"
JUNE 21--The adorable mixed-breed puppy pictured below looks pretty good considering what the poor animal's just been through. According to the Martin County Sheriff's Office, a witness Monday observed a man "lying on his back" with a white dog on top of him in a wooded area in Stuart, Florida. In this troubling (and very graphic) arrest affidavit, a sheriff's deputy--who responded to an animal in distress call--describes Enrique Garcia's infliction of pain upon a petrified pooch. When approached during the assault, the 31-year-old degenerate stated, "It's my dog," and asked, "What's the problem?" Garcia, pictured in the above mug shot, was charged with sexual bestiality and animal cruelty. His 28-pound victim, who is about four months old, was examined by a veterinarian and found to be in good condition. The puppy is now in the custody of the Humane Society and will be placed in foster care, according to a sheriff's spokesperson. (2 pages)

www.thesmokinggun.com

Anonymous said...

Not that I condone that life style because I myself have been working over these past few years on bettering myself but, that is the way I felt when I was hanging out in the neigborhood then and it is still the way I feel now.

DANG LOCO, YOU DONT KNOW IF YOUR COMING OR GOING

Anonymous said...

coming all over your face like that little dog

Anonymous said...

coming all over your face like that little dog

DANG ESE, YOU NEED TO QUIT YOUR DAY JOB AND LIVE BY YOUR WITS BECAUSE THAT SHIT TOOK ALOT OF BRAINS TO COME UP WITH...SIKE!
NO SEAS PUTO!

Anonymous said...

bola de putos, no pueden salire con nada nuevo. Solamente la misa cagada! purque no aprenden algo nuevo y dejen las pendejadas ya. Los negros los etan dejando en la cagada y no saben a ser nada! bola de estupidos.

Anonymous said...

TO THE VATO ASKING ABOUT THE VENICE INCIDENT; WHAT HAPPENED WAS THAT 3 MAYATES (THAT DIDN'T EVEN GO TO VENICE HIGH) WENT TO THE SCHOOL AND TRIED TO SNATCH A SILVER CHAIN AND SILVER CROSS FROM A YOUNG MEXICAN DUDE. WELL, THE LIL VATO'S BROTHER TRIED TO STEP IN TO HELP HIS CARNALITO AND ONE OF THE CHAIN SNATCHIN NIGGERS POPPED THE BIG BROTHER IN THE CHEST, KILLING HIM. THE TWO BROTHER'S WERE NOT AFFILIATED WITH ANY CLIQUE. THOUGH THE TINTOS LEFT, YELLING OUT THEIR SET, THROWING UP SIGNS, AND SAYIN' FUCK MEXICANS. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED AT VENICE HIGH SEVERAL WEEKS AGO. THE TWO MEXICAN BROTHERS WERE ONLY 13 & 15 YEARS OLD.

Anonymous said...

all the mayate gangs even near venice should be wiped out over that shit.

Anonymous said...

thats what happened in 1993 in venice and these young monkeys dont remember looks like their gonna have to get hit again to put em in check all the rival varrios came together and wiped out the sholines yellow tape all over the hood that summer was a beautiful sight every time you saw yellow tape you knew there was a dead sholine crip

Anonymous said...

Fuck those mud duck chain swiping niggers. their all a bunch of lame ass maricone motherfuckers that will get theirs. fuckin worthless toads

Anonymous said...

bola de putos, no pueden salire con nada nuevo. Solamente la misa cagada! purque no aprenden algo nuevo y dejen las pendejadas ya. Los negros los etan dejando en la cagada y no saben a ser nada! bola de estupidos.

WHO ARE YOU TRYING TO RILE UP RETARD? WHERE THE FUCK DO YOU LIVE TO BELIEVE THE NEGROS ARE GETTING OVER ON US. YOUR FEEBLE ATTEMPTS AT ORGANIZING SOME KIND OF REVOLUTION ARE TRANSPARENT. GET A FUCKING LIFE OR GO OUT AND HANDLE THE FIRST NEGRO YOU SEE INSTEAD OF CRYING LIKE A STRAIGHT PUTA ABOUT US TO US.

YOU SHOULD GET TRUKOS POKED FAGGOT!

Anonymous said...

sounds like someone likes their chorizo dark

Anonymous said...

THATS NOT IT PENDEJO, I JUST DON'T LIKE VATOS TRYING TO BRAINWASH ME SUCH THAT I END UP A MIDLESS TONTO LIKE YOU

Anonymous said...

HOW MANY GANGSTERS DOES IT TAKE TO CHANGE A LIGT BULB?

20

1 TO CALL THE SHOT
3 TO RELAY THE SHOTCALLERS ORDERS
1 TO CHANGE THE BULB
5 TO STAND OVER HIM AND MAKE SURE
HE DOES IT RIGHT
5 TO HIT THE VATO WHO CHANGED THE
BULB FOR NOT TURNING IT CORRECTLY
5 TO TALK ABOUT HOW YOU NEVER TURN
DOWN THE OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE A
LIGHT BULB BECAUSE YOU'LL PAY
THE PRICE FOR NOT CHANGING THE
LIGHT BULB

Walter Mercado said...

THATS NOT IT PENDEJO, I JUST DON'T LIKE VATOS TRYING TO BRAINWASH ME SUCH THAT I END UP A MIDLESS TONTO LIKE YOU

Mijo, if you were here in front of me, I would bitch slap you with the back of my hand. No mames que ya hay leche de polvo.

Anonymous said...

Mijo, if you were here in front of me, I would bitch slap you with the back of my hand. No mames que ya hay leche de polvo.


I DON'T THINK YOUR HAND WOULD REACH ME BEFORE A SHORT PUNCH TO THE SOLA PLEX HAS YOU GASPING FOR WIND...YA ESTUFAS...NET WOOFING AINT SHIT...COME AT ME WITH SOME WIT...MAKE A JOKE...SOMETHING THAT CAN CONVEY HOW SMART YOU ARE BECAUSE NOTHING YOU SAY HERE IS GOING TO PROVE HOW TUFF YOU ARE...FUCKING FAGGOT... GO GET TRUKOS POKED

walter mercado and juan gabriel said...

To
MIDLESS TONTO (first Learn how to spell baboso)

This moron does not know the difference between an action and the spoken word.

He/She can hardly complete a sentence. Why does anyone give a crap what this dimwit says?

Sorry, He/she is just an idiot.

San Jonero said...

Ok that light bulb shit was funny you vatos got to admit that.

Why do you guy's keep saying "Somebody should put a Green light on these mayates"
I'm sure your not the only one that wants to put in work on these spooks.So why don't you kick it off? Is that what paying taxes is all about ? Do you have to wait for the word from the Big Homies?
These are serious questions.I'm not trying to disrespect any taxpayers but I'm just curious.I'm from up North .If we want to put in work we do it we don't wait for some homie in the joint to give us a green light.
That's why it's hard for me to understand why I keep seeing comments like: Somebody should take these fuckers out or Somebody should put a green light on these niggers.Fuck it,Just do it.

Anonymous said...

One works within the system. While it would be sweet justice to cap the first mayate pendejo that one comes across, such an action may interfere with the larger plans for teaching the mayates a lesson that they should never have forgotten.

In the end, it will have to be the local varios in the afflicted area that will have to put aside their internecine warfare and unite to fight the common enemy. It may take the word of the Big Homies for this to happen, but happen it must otherwise the only result will be more dead Latinos at the hands of the emboldened mayates.

Anonymous said...

"That's why it's hard for me to understand why I keep seeing comments like: Somebody should take these fuckers out or Somebody should put a green light on these niggers.Fuck it,Just do it"

whats so hard to understand? aint know body who comments on this blog going to bust a grape! Its easy to sit in the comfort of your own home and talk alot of masa, but action speaks louder then words, most of these knucle heads who log on here are nothing but netbangers, and you cant kill anyone with an email. I dont think any of the people who are on here wolfing shit have ever even met a validated "big homie" or even been to the county jail, the closest they probaly even been to a barrio was renting BLVD nights. The homies who are really putting in work are not at home typing on the computer. also remember most "thugs" are broke and cant afford a computer much less the monthly internet bill, and all the real "gangsters" are locked up and there aint no internet access in level 3 & 4 pintas that I am aware of.

Anonymous said...

awwwwwwwww come on netbanging is fun,and safe!fuck you puto fuck you teron fuck you gabacho fuck you osama fuck you occifer my computer is way more badass than yours ever will be,and i bet i could whip your ass on any of my little play station games!

Anonymous said...

The AB rediscovers the dual cipher code of Sir Francis Bacon... The Mayates discover what... That's right. Nothing.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-me-code27jun27,0,6483787.story?page=1&coll=la-home-headlines

Anonymous said...

What happened to the comments section on the next topic ? Can't read , can't post ...I bet S fucked it up for all of us.

Anonymous said...

WE STILL GOT THIS COMMENTS SECTION

trukos said...

All you little putos, fucked it up with your net banging bullshit!

Gava Joe said...

Looks like the Feds put a "freeze" on Comments Section. Must have been some pertinent Homeland Security sensitive intel come thru Wally's pipe and the NSA got ahold of it and POOF! Huh, what Hat? What's in what Hat? So find another place to heckle each other. Try Mafia Times (I see "ExConGuy.com moved his site. Too many migres from ELA -lol..) Maybe there's a "technical glitch" w/Wally's place.. Maybe him and Mundo Mendoza and that rata from the AB trials is havin a bbq..

Anonymous said...

donde esta lil trukos, yo tengo grande dedos habla me

Anonymous said...

Trukos said:
"All you little putos fucked it up with your net banging bullshit!"

It's generally accepted in civilized circles that the first one to smell the fart is usually the "doer"...

trukos said...

packing my stuff for my move back down to the LOS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

oops, i meant to say...


I'm shitpacking my stuff for my move back down to the LOS DEDOS GRANDES!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

That XCONGIRL site was shit anyway.
I'm glad that fag took it down.
If he didn't like your comments he would delete them.At least Wally keeps our comments up here whether he like what we say or not.

Anonymous said...

Yeah I like how he "keeps your comments up"..Fact is: he probably pulled the plug! Ca'nt blame him -all this fussin and fightin- pokin', no jokin'.. Mining for gold coming outta the calles de Los. Vatos making jerks out of themselves, then trying to explain how they were actually doing a public service or something by the stupid shit they said or dummass threads they start..Then of course there's the tiresome (snooze button) feud between "UPSTATE" and "DOWNSTATE" (yawn).. How old? How fucking elementary? What dumb ass baby shit? It's all over greed. Your rivalries. The EME and the "associates", the hangers-on, the wannabe's.. It's all really old and tired, HA! Payin taxes to some old snort aint never coming out of the Hole.. And to let them effect the way you do your business on the streets? That's pitiful!...Obviously we're dealing with a faction of society that "needs to be led", is submissive and lacks any positive self-image...Sad..
Yet you keep up your banging and feed the monster more and more. It WILL consume you. Take that to the bank..gj

Anonymous said...

Couldn't have been said any better GJ. -Jose619

Anonymous said...

Is this a business deal or is this a joke:

Black inmates defend Aryan Brotherhood in Santa Ana trial
GILLIAN FLACCUS
Associated Press
SANTA ANA, Calif. - Two black prison gang members testified Wednesday that the notorious Aryan Brotherhood was too small and weak to attack a rival black gang behind bars and incite a race war that left two inmates dead.

The testimony of the witnesses, members of the Crips and Black Guerrilla Family, came in the final days of a sweeping federal racketeering trial against the white supremacist gang.

The case, believed to be one of the largest death penalty cases in U.S. history, alleges that imprisoned Aryan Brotherhood ringleaders orchestrated 32 murders and attempted murders over a 30-year period. Of the 40 people originally arrested, up to 16 could face the death penalty in several trials.

At the heart of the government's case is a 1997 race riot at a prison in Lewisburg, Pa., that resulted in the deaths of two members of the DC Blacks prison gang. Prosecutors allege the hits were ordered by way of a secret message sent by two Aryan Brotherhood members currently on trial - Barry "The Baron" Mills and T.D. "The Hulk" Bingham - from another prison.

On Wednesday, an imprisoned member of the Black Guerrilla Family gang testified that the Aryan Brotherhood was severely outnumbered in the federal prison system by the DC Blacks.

Witness James "Doc" Holiday said there were at most 10 Aryan Brotherhood members at his prison, while the DC Blacks were "the majority."

Holiday said DC Blacks had a type of violent mentality that didn't exist among other prison gangs. He said the racial strife was largely instigated by the black gang, with the Aryan Brotherhood defending itself.

When tensions started to rise among black and white inmates in 1996 and 1997, Mills tried to ease the problem rather than inflame it, Holiday said.

"I know him and I know that he wouldn't initiate something like that because he knows the consequences," Holiday said of the racial problems.

"Only the young and the foolish and the uninitiated would start something like that in prison," said Holiday, who is serving two life terms for drug violations.

Earlier in the day, another inmate and member of the Crips testified that the white supremacist gang was vastly outnumbered by the DC Blacks and had to act in self-defense.

"I care how it comes out because I know these people," said Mick Daughtery, who's been in prison nearly 30 years on drug convictions. "But I'm not biased."

The government alleges Bingham passed a secret message that read "War with DC Blacks, TD" to Aryan Brotherhood members at the Lewisburg prison in 1997 after racial strife broke out at a prison in Marion, Ill.

A series of government witnesses have testified that they helped pass the contents of the message written in invisible ink made from urine.

The defense has argued that the message was a warning to Aryan Brotherhood members at other prisons about escalating racial tensions, and that it was misinterpreted by those who received it.

Holiday testified that the troubles at Marion began when a member of the DC Blacks assaulted a white inmate with a radio because he wanted to be transferred to another prison. Things escalated, he said, when DC Blacks attacked white inmates in the prison yard.

The trial began in mid-March and entered its final days this week. Defense attorneys for Bingham, Mills and another defendant, Edgar "The Snail" Hevle, have rested their cases.

The trial was recessed until July 6, when an attorney for the fourth defendant, Christopher Gibson, will begin his defense. Closing arguments are expected to begin July 11.

Anonymous said...

Just as importantly - is it true? If it is, it really does make one wonder about the racial bias in the Federal prosecutions that have been coming down the pipe. The White and Browns have been targetted, while the Blacks have escaped. People that act in self-defense are tried for capitol crimes while the instigators, part of a large criminal enterprise, are not charged.

What in the hell is going on at the Federal Prosecutor's Office?

Anonymous said...

Yeah I like how he "keeps your comments up"..Fact is: he probably pulled the plug! Ca'nt blame him -all this fussin and fightin- pokin', no jokin'.. Mining for gold coming outta the calles de Los. Vatos making jerks out of themselves, then trying to explain how they were actually doing a public service or something by the stupid shit they said or dummass threads they start..Then of course there's the tiresome (snooze button) feud between "UPSTATE" and "DOWNSTATE" (yawn).. How old? How fucking elementary? What dumb ass baby shit? It's all over greed. Your rivalries. The EME and the "associates", the hangers-on, the wannabe's.. It's all really old and tired, HA! Payin taxes to some old snort aint never coming out of the Hole.. And to let them effect the way you do your business on the streets? That's pitiful!...Obviously we're dealing with a faction of society that "needs to be led", is submissive and lacks any positive self-image...Sad..
Yet you keep up your banging and feed the monster more and more. It WILL consume you. Take that to the bank..gj

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING HERE THEN ? YOU MUST FEEL THE "NEED TO BE LED" ALSO.YOUR SHITTY CONTRIBUTIONS TO THIS SITE ARE NO BETTER THAN THE NET BANGERS AND THE FACT THAT YOU RETURN SHOWS THAT YOU GET SOME FORM OF PLEASURE READING ALL THIS "SHIT".IF YOU DON'T LIKE THIS FACTION OF SOCIETY THEN FUCK OFF.THERE'S PLENTY OF OTHER SHIT TO LOOK AT ON THE WEB,WHY ARE YOU HERE?

Anonymous said...

"he's a worst typist"

none of the idiots here caught that.

';)

Anonymous said...

Fuck XCON and Mafia Times

PURO WALLYS WORLD XX3.WWW

Y QUE

Anonymous said...

Olny srmat poelpe can raed tihs.

cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm.

Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig huh? Yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt!

YA VEN PENDEJOS! YOU VATOS CRITICIZING MY SPELLING HAD IT TISTWED

StillNoScript said...

The Venice and SB shootings seemed to be done by misguided kids. The robbery between Crips and F13 were gangsters. I see a clear distinction between the two. Would someone care to convince me otherwise?

SNS said...

p.s.

^^^ referring to the Crips/F13 robbery from a year ago, or whatever it was, not anything recent.

lets start here again said...

Friday, June 23, 2006

FOR THE RECORD
Some readers have wondered if I read all the posts or any of them. I read some of them. My personal filter process is if the post starts with something like "F*ck you putos," I don't bother reading it. It's pointless. There's nothing to learn there. Also, I don't respond to questions in the comments section. If I respond to anything, I'll do it right here. So if anyone logs in as Wally or any variation of that in the comments section, trust me, it's not me. The other thing I never do is post "anonymous" comments in the comments section to either goose the conversation or slam somebody. As longtime readers have figured out, I don't slam people or get into net beefs. One last thing. I have no clue who the commenters are and I have no way of getting in touch with them. I periodically get requests from people wanting to get in touch with this or that commenter. Can't help you. I have no way of tracking and I wouldn't even if I could. If you want to get in touch with somebody, work it out in the comments section. I'm not in that loop.

On another topic, the recent incidents in Venice and SB have gotten the attention of some senior members. Nobody's seen a lista yet but there's an awful lot of "chatter" in County. Could be BS or the real thing. Let's hope it doesn't turn into a long hot summer.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous moron said:

That XCONGIRL site was shit anyway.
I'm glad that fag took it down.
If he didn't like your comments he would delete them.At least Wally keeps our comments up here whether he like what we say or not.

That XCONGUY is a college professor who did time back
in the day, rehabbed and came back to teach dumb fuckers like you! But you obviously do'nt need to learn anything. you know it already. You'll be another statistic, and maybe folks will mourn, maybe NOT!

The XCONGUY was obligated to censor his site as it was attached to his college and it was serving a need until you punk-assed netbangers w/your little minds decided to target it.. Simple solution is that he pulled the plug and moved. Worthy souls know where it resides. You my friend are left to wallow in your own muck.

fernando valenzuela said...

You are angry and that was not a true parallel. Go back to school and pursue your GED. Don't be stupid, stay in school.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
The XCONGUY was obligated to censor his site as it was attached to his college...

Yea right. Si Chucho, tu y tus calzones. That's as spurious as leaded track shoes for quicker sprints . Go try that one out on brownpride.com.

s said...

where is everyone? what happened were wally go? im on pcp and i cant find mi way home.

Anonymous said...

You guys are no better than niggers.And you grumble about the same trivial woes. Pobrecitos..

Anonymous said...

Fuck xconguy pinche mayate

Anonymous said...

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-shooting1jul01,0,4024206.story?coll=la-home-headlines

Three more dead hispanics at the hands of the mayate subhuman filth. The pinche defenders of the mayates' "right" to exist can just step the fuck off.

"Detectives said race will be one of the issues they will consider in their investigation. All the victims are Latino, while witnesses said the assailant was black."

don quixote said...

Que te pasa Wally?
Maybe Gava Joe hit the nail on the head and "big brother" is watching us at "Wallytown" and needs to figure out "Whats going on" (Marvin Gay's insightful take), and to all you Camarada's I'd like to post up a story about a beautiful hermano who had it all together over a hundred years ago and who's influence is still felt even though his works have been censored and shoved into the dust bin of history.
I once read the account of "Flores Magon's" death in "Leavenworth Federal Prison" due to beatings and mistreatment by the bulls, written by a fellow "anarchist" and Gavacho named "Eastman" who wrote of the "Mexican" who never gave an inch or retracted statements or became an snitch or informed on his allies even though starved beaten, kept in solitary for years. After "Flores Magon" died from the mistreatment (and US authorities claimed he died from Tuberculosis), Eastman overheard the joint bulls saying shit like "fuck that Mexican! he aint so tough now"
But what a surprise they had when the Mexicans body was taken back to be buried and millions of his countrymen and compatriots hailed him as a true international hero!
Flores Magon's history is still relative to our situation today and his close ties to Mexico, Los Angeles, El Paso, and his perception and ability to cut through the massive bullshit and confusion of his time has real relevance to our contemporary situation.
Ten Cuidado!

INSIDE MODERN MEXICO the name of Ricardo Flores Magon is well known, and is regarded in a somewhat similar way to that of James Connolly in Ireland. But outside Mexico few have heard of him. Born to a poor family in 1873, he became a journalist on the opposition paper 'El Demócrata' after finishing school. In 1900, along with his brother Jesús, he founded "Regeneración', a radical paper opposed to the dictatorship of Porfirio Diaz.

After release from a second prison sentence arising from his campaigning journalism, he moved across the border to the USA. Despite continual persecution and imprisonment by the U.S. authorities, at the instigation of the Mexican dictatorship - who had put a price of $20,000 on his head after he wouldn't be bought off with the offer of a place in the government - he would not be silenced.

In 1905 Magon founded the Mexican Liberal Party, a reformist organisation opposed to the excesses of the regime, which organised two unsuccessful uprisings against Diaz in 1906 and 1908. During his early years of exile he became acquainted with the legendary anarchist Emma Goldman, and it was partly through her that he moved from reformism to become an anarchist.

With the outbreak of the revolution of 1910, the revolution that he and the PLM more than any other group or person, had paved the way for, Magon devoted the rest of his life to the anarchist cause. Through the influence of his ideas large areas of land were expropriated by the peasants and worked in common by them under the banner of 'Land and Liberty', the motto of the PLM. This motto was later adopted by Emiliano Zapata, whose legacy inspires the EZLN rebels of Southern Mexico today.

As the revolution began on November 20th 1910, Magon summed up the aims of PLM "The Liberal Party works for the welfare of the poor classes of the Mexican people. It does not impose a candidate (in the presidential election), because it will be up to the will of the people to settle the question. Does the people want a master? Well let them elect one. All the Liberal Party desires is to effect a change in the mind of the toiling people so that every man and woman should know that no one has the right to exploit anybody."

A fortnight later he explained the difference between the PLM and other opposition movements: "Governments have to protect the right of property above all other rights. Do not expect then, that Madero will attack the right of property in favour of the working class. Open your eyes. Remember a phrase, simple and true and as truth indestructible, the emancipation of the workers must be the work of the workers themselves".

By January PLM forces were fighting in six of Mexico's states. Major towns, as well as rural areas, were liberated by the anarchists. In March a peasant army led by Zapata, and influenced by the Magonistas of the PLM, rose up in Morelos. By now the nationalist opposition of Madero had turned some of its guns away from the troops of Diaz and begun to attack the anarchists of the PLM.

In April the PLM issued a manifesto to "the members of the party, to the anarchists of the world and the workers in general". Vast quantities were produced in Spanish and English to explain their attitude to the revolution. "The Mexican Liberal Party is not fighting to destroy the dictator Porfirio Diaz in order to put in his place a new tyrant. The PLM is taking part in the actual insurrection with the deliberate and firm purpose of expropriating the land and the means of production and handing them over to the people, that is, each and every one of the inhabitants of Mexico without distinction of sex. This act we consider essential to open the gates for the effective emancipation of the Mexican people."

In massively illiterate Mexico, where many villages had only a handful of people able to read, the circulation of "Regeneración" had reached 27,000 a week. When Tijuana was liberated in May, most of Baja California came under PLM influence. They issued a manifesto "Take possession of the land...make a free and happy life without masters or tyrants".

That month saw Madero sign a peace treaty with Diaz and take over as President of Mexico. Military attacks on the PLM increased, and towns were retaken by government troops. Prisoners were murdered by the new regime, sometimes after being made to dig their own graves. At a meeting in Los Angeles, Magon was asked to accept the treaty but replied "...until the land was distributed to the peasants and the instruments of production were in the hands of the workers, the liberals would never lay down their arms".

Along with many leading PLM organisers, Magon was arrested (again) by the US authorities. The rebels were slandered as "bandits" and repression in both Mexico and the US reached new heights. Despite the setbacks caused by their relatively small size in a gigantic country, the attacks they suffered from the armies of two countries, and the terrible revenge exacted by the rich and their agents... new uprisings broke out in Senora, Durango and Coahuila.

Such was the support for their ideas, that even the conservative British TUC felt obliged to invite Honore Jaxon, Treasurer and European representative of the PLM, to address their 1911 conference. One solidarity action especially worth mentioning was the 24 hour strike by two army units in Portugal protesting against the arrest of PLM militants by the US government.

A new manifesto, emphasising their anarchism, was issued in September: "The same effort and the same sacrifices that are required to raise to power a governor - that is to say a tyrant - will achieve the expropriation of the fortunes the rich keep from you. It is for you, then, to choose. Either a new governor - that is to say a new yoke - or life redeeming expropriation and the abolition of all imposition, religious, political or any other kind".

PLM and Zapatista rebellions continued until 1919, but their numbers and inadequate arms were not sufficient to defeat the state forces. However all was not in vain. In 1922 the anarchist CGT trade union was founded in Mexico city, and today the rebellion in the state of Chiapas can be seen as, partly at least, a continuation of Magon's struggle.

During the years of struggle Magon opposed and fought successive so-called "revolutionary regimes," resisting both the old and new dictatorships with equal vigour. Imprisoned by the U.S. authorities in 1905, 1907, and 1912 he was finally sentenced to 20 years under the espionage laws in 1918. He died, apparently after suffering beatings, in Leavenworth Prison, Kansas, on November 22, 1922.

When his body was brought back across the border, every town where the cortege stopped was decked out in the red and black flags of anarchism. In Mexico city 10,000 working people escorted his body to Panteon Frances where it is buried. A flame had been lit that will not burn out until liberty becomes a living reality.

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Anonymous said...

Latinos protecting their community from the mayate menace charged with hate crimes while the mayates that murder hispanics get a free pass. WTF?!?

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/california/la-me-avenues29jun29,1,6633324.story?coll=la-headlines-pe-california

Anonymous said...

Ricardo Flores Magon, inspirational story. knowing your history will set you free. Viva!

Anonymous said...

Good Stuff! Thanks Don Q

Gava Joe said...

ATTENTION; For those of you interested you can go back to Wally's latest post and comment there but be aware the rules have changed. A moderator "the author" will approve your words before they're posted..It's been a hoot,brothers and a few sisters, but I suppose the party's over. Free speech is a precious right. I'm sure no one respects that more than Wally. I'm guessing (pure speculation) that he was coerced to install this "comment moderation" feature to his blog.. "They take paradise and put up a parking lot" - Joannie Mitchell..

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Anonymous said...

"Latinos protecting their community from the mayate menace charged with hate crimes while the mayates that murder hispanics get a free pass. WTF?!?"

My guess is that the authorities investigated the internet blogs and message boards, and found the racist comments made by Mexicans, directed toward Blacks, to outnumber the racist comments made vice versa by a ratio of 500 to 1.

Anonymous said...

Orale Don Q!

Anonymous said...

hello! hello in there! anybody home? shit maybe the "rapture" happened and I'm "left behind"!

Anonymous said...

what happened wally?

Anonymous said...

This place has "gone to hell in a handbasket" I'm outta here, oh wait before I leave heres some current "shit" about "killing niggers"

Gang Accused of Conspiring to Kill Blacks
Federal prosecutors allege that members of the Avenues in L.A. plotted to commit violence against African Americans.
By John Spano, Times Staff Writer
July 4, 2006
Jose Cruz is a walking testament to what happens when a member turns against the Avenues street gang.
He has 30 scars from the stab wounds he suffered in one attempt on his life — on his arms, torso and legs. In another attack, he was beaten so severely that he has a visible dent in his skull, according to court papers, "the size and shape of a pistol butt."
His street gang goes back five generations in Highland Park, which for Cruz is five miles and several lifetimes from the downtown courtroom where he is scheduled to testify as the star witness for the prosecution in the trial of a group of childhood friends.
Federal prosecutors, who launched their case last week, contend that the Avenues gang between 1994 and 2000 conspired to kill African Americans on their turf.
Men, women and children were harassed, terrorized, assaulted and slain as gang members sought to force black residents out of Latino neighborhoods, prosecutors said.
Authorities are using a federal hate-crime law based on the amendment to the U.S. Constitution that outlawed slavery, and another law created in the civil rights era, to go after four gang members. Barbara Bernstein, deputy chief of the criminal section of the civil rights divisions of the U.S. Department of Justice in Washington, is part of the prosecution team.
Attorneys for the defendants — Gilbert Saldana, Alejandro Martinez, Fernando Cazares and Porfirio Avila — have asserted that the federal government has no power to involve itself in a common street crime.
Defense attorney Reuven L. Cohen told jurors last week that one of the slayings cited in the charges — the 1999 shooting of Kenneth Wilson — was not a hate crime but "a simple gang killing committed out of boredom."
Cohen said the crimes sprang from the "sad" truth of "a tension that exists between African American gangs and Latino gangs."
The first of three former gang members, each in custody and hoping for leniency, testified Monday. Jesse Diaz, who described himself as a tagger from age 12, told jurors the Avenues decided to fight the "infestation" of blacks in Highland Park with a systematic terror campaign designed to run them out of the neighborhood.
Diaz, who has 10 more years to serve in prison for attempted murder, said the Avenues hated all rival gangs. But the antipathy for blacks was different, he said.
Highland Park became the scene of a game in which Diaz's group of Avenues actually competed with another "clique" to run the most blacks out of Highland Park, he testified.
Two other informants, one serving a long state prison term and the other a deported immigrant, will tell jurors that Saldana shot Wilson repeatedly in 1999, explaining that Saldana had just acquired a gun and "wanted to test it out."
One told the FBI in interviews that the gang got an order in 1998 from the Mexican Mafia prison gang to "kill any blacks … on sight."
Rick Ortiz, a Los Angeles police spokesman, called the Avenues a "bully" gang that uses its large numbers to intimidate.
"The Avenues have been around for a long time," Ortiz said. "They are the largest gang in the northeast area, with over 500 documented, active members."
Although gang members have for years been subject to a court order that limits their activities, they remain active, authorities said. Their racial antipathy is an outgrowth of prison culture, in which rival street gang members band together by race and then bring those attitudes back to the streets, Ortiz said.
"When you have gang members standing out on the street corners, they intimidate people," he said. "They may commit a minor offense, like vandalism, but people are so afraid of them they won't call in. It diminishes the quality of life in the community."
Heinrich Keifer, president of the Historic Highland Park Neighborhood Council, said racial violence by gang members is not currently a problem in the area.
"Our biggest problem is not so much gangs, although some members of the community are intimidated. It's more the taggers," Keifer said. "They create that feeling that the community is destroyed. The gangs aren't ruling the turf. They're not necessarily muscling people out. There was some of that in the past.
"The area is on the rebound, so much so that many Westsiders are moving in," Keifer said, citing the historic heritage of the area northeast of downtown. "Many of the poorer people are struggling with the rising rents."
As part of his strategy in the case, defense attorney Cohen plans to target the witnesses' credibility.
Diaz and the two other former gang members are lying to curry favor with prosecutors, Cohen said. Defendants Saldana and Avila are in prison, serving life sentences without the possibility of parole for murder. Cazares is in custody on a parole violation. Martinez's custody status could not be determined.
Prosecutors say the gang members conspired in various acts of violence, including:
• Wilson's 1999 killing, which occurred when he returned to his Avenue 52 home late at night after a party, his nephew, Duane Williams, testified Thursday. Wilson was shot repeatedly by Saldana and two others because of his race, Assistant U.S. Atty. Alex Bustamante told jurors.
• Diaz testified that gang members beat a black homeless man with metal weapons, and attacked an African American man speaking on a pay telephone from behind and severely beat him.
Another black man was assaulted on the street because he was walking with a Latina, according to Bustamante.
• Finally, authorities say they have linked the killings of two other men to the Avenues, partly through ballistics. The victims were Christopher Bauser, who was shot execution-style at a bus stop in 2000, and Anthony Prudomme, also killed on a street.
Bustamante offered a chilling view of the mentality of the Avenues as the trial opened in U.S. District Judge Percy Anderson's courtroom. Martinez was driving a van carrying five fellow Avenues members when he spotted Wilson.
"Anybody want to kill a nigger?" Bustamante said.
"Those are not my words, ladies and gentlemen," Bustamante added, gesturing across the room to Martinez. "They are his."

and to all you pochos, whiteboys, and illegals have a good and safe 4th of July.

"ay te miro chamiro"

Anonymous said...

Awesome blog, homes.

s said...

SUR 13 !!!

Anonymous said...

this is a joke . not one of your little books can inform you how deep this thing you called " eme " is .
you have no knowlege . so respect what you don't know . you can't see whats going on from your mansions in b.hills . stay inside , it's safer for you squares .