WHO'S GOING TO BLINK FIRST?
Gang cops are apparently showing no inclination to have their personal financial information open to public scrutiny. On the other side of the issue, the opposition also shows no indication that they'll abandon efforts to require that gang cops reveal their financial records. A number of veteran gang cops have already asked for and gotten reassignment and the rest are ready to do the same if they're ordered to reveal their records.
This looks like a classic standoff with neither side willing to compromise. This also appears to be a case of double, triple and quadruple standards. The rationale for revealing a gang cop's records is the suspicion that they may be more likely than the average patrol officer to be corrupted by access to dope and large quantities of cash in the course of their daily work. As we've said before, that rationale of potential corruption could apply to thousands of civil servants, elected officials, recipients of public funds and virtually any private entity that does business with local, state or the Federal government.
Why focus on gang cops for this selective scrutiny? The simple answer is Rafael Perez. While on the face it it appears to make sense, you can also point to dozens of cases of corruption and nefarious backscratching much further up the food chain. Just to review, there's the DWP and cozy deals with PR firms and massive overtime fraud, elected officials hiring their girlfriends who have no campaign experience as campaign advisors, others exchanging guns for dope with known street gangsters, others getting hit with huge fines for illegal campaign financing, flying around the country on private planes owned by companies doing business with the city, others buying cocaine and using it in their own offices, others looking the other way when pet intervention programs are infiltrated by an organized criminal enterprise -- need we go on?
If you aren't going to trust cops because they "might" get corrupted conducting their business, then we shouldn't trust anybody who might be exposed to the possibility of corruption. Whether they do it with a gun screwed into a drug dealer's ear or by cutting a purchase order for a new construction project, using the yardstick for the pontential of corruption is a huge club that could be swung at a lot more people than gang cops.
Wednesday, April 11, 2007
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I do not trust cops they are evil and corrupt people who abuse the poor and innocent people of Los Angeles.
Wally you are correct the old cholos and loco liberals here will surely tell us how cops are the most corrupt of all goverment employees. see a typical story about how city and local politics works.
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Job hunt was ethics violation, panel says
An ex-Harbor Department official and a company that was seeking a port of Los Angeles contract are fined for making an employment deal.
From news services
The Los Angeles Ethics Commission levied a $5,000 fine Tuesday against a former Harbor Department official who improperly negotiated a job with a company that had a pending contract with the Port of Los Angeles.
Stacy Jones, former senior director of engineering for the Harbor Department, sought a job with Moffatt & Nichol while she was also reviewing a $6.89 million contract for the engineering firm, according to an Ethics Commission report.
Moffatt & Nichol was fined $4,500 for its role.
"It's a little different," said Ethics Commission President Gil Garcetti. "I haven't seen this before."
Jones worked for the city for 25 years and was passed over as general manager of the Harbor Department -- Geraldine Knatz got the job -- in December 2005.
The following month, Jones began looking for jobs with private firms specializing in port engineering and consulting -- including Moffatt and Nichol, according to the Ethics Commission report.
At the same time, Jones was considering Moffatt & Nichol's $6.89 million engineering proposal for the second phase of the Cabrillo Marina.
On March 28, 2006, Jones signed off on a staff recommendation to award the contract to Moffatt & Nichol. That same evening, the company offered Jones a job, according to the Ethics Commission report.
Jones accepted the job the following week but never went to work for Moffatt & Nichol, according to the Ethics Commission report. She later took a job at another firm.
As a result of the conflict, the City Attorney's Office advised Knatz to pull the project award and renew the bidding process before it came before the Harbor Commission for review.
In other action Tuesday, the Ethics Commission issued warnings to Robert Flaxman and Sanford Deutsch for making excessive campaign contributions to former Mayor James Hahn during his unsuccessful bid for re-election in 2005.
Flaxman and his company, Crown Realty and Development, contributed $2,000 to Hahn's campaign, exceeding the city's limit of $1,000 per candidate during each election cycle.
It's unfortunate that some cops are not willing to disclose information to the public, the public that pays their salaries, mind you. It gives officers who do their job in an ethical and lawful manner, who have nothing to hide, a bad name.
If some believe that all members of government should be under the same scrutiny, then they should write their representatives and demand so. In the meantime, it seems that some elected officials want records of certain police agencies regarding their methods and spending, and haven't been faced with a significant objection from their constituencies.
That being said, you'd think that cops who practice law enforcement in a legal, ethical manner themselves, would be eager to show record of such practice. I don't know why they choose not to, but I can assure you that those in the Los Angeles Police Department being uncooperative in this request for disclosure are doing nothing to help the reputation of a department that's been tarnished by blatant incidents of misconduct in the past.
If there has been misconduct that has gone unreported, now is a better time than ever to come clean, because we're going to find out anyway.
http://newyork.fbi.gov/dojpressrel/pressrel07/extortion040607.pdf
See waht happened to one of Tony Sopranos captains at the badda-bing strip club
Mexico's attorney general calls on U.S. to stop guns and drug money from heading south
By Ioan Grillo
ASSOCIATED PRESS
MEXICO CITY – Mexico's attorney general on Wednesday demanded U.S. authorities do more to stop guns and drug money from heading south and fueling the drug violence in Mexico that left more 2,000 dead last year.
Eduardo Medina Mora told a business forum that the vast majority of arms used by the soldiers of drug cartels, including assault rifles and grenades, are smuggled from the United States.
“It's truly absurd that a person can get together 50 to 100 high powered arms, grenade launchers, fragmentation grenades, and can transport this cargo to our country,” Medina Mora said. “It's a task that needs a much more decided and determined effort from the U.S. government, and it's one of the demands we have put on the table.”
President Felipe Calderón, who took office on Dec. 1, has waged a major offensive against the cartels, sending more than 24,000 troops to regions ravaged by drug-related beheadings and execution-style slayings. He also has extradited several alleged kingpins to the United States, winning the praise of the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency.
But drug gangs have hit back, killing police officers across the country. Sometimes notes threatening the federal government have been left near the bodies.
Even Calderón has said that he has received threats, although he has said he can't be sure if they are from cartels.
Medina Mora said U.S. users provide the cartels with huge amounts of cash to fund their killings.
“It's unthinkable that organized crime can get these amounts of money,” Medina Mora said. “These transactions are not happening within the (Mexican) financial system. They are mostly from the flow of cash from the United States to Mexico.”
Analysts estimate that Mexican drug gangs make between $10 billion and $30 billion selling cocaine, heroin, marijuana and methamphetamine to the U.S. market, rivaling the money Mexico makes from oil exports and foreign tourism.
Earlier this month, Mexican police found $205.6 million in dollar bills and $1.5 million worth of pesos hidden inside walls, suitcases and closets in one of Mexico City's wealthiest neighborhoods.
DEA chief Karen Tandy called the haul “the largest single drug-cash seizure the world has ever seen.” She said the money came from the profits of methamphetamine sold in the United States and said U.S. and Mexican agents worked together to track down the house.
you are right. we shouldn't trust any of them. also, when these same cops pull someone over and want to search their car without a warrant, they always use the line, "if you don't have anything to hide, then you shouldn't have anything to worry about".
Wally get real! There's a whole fleet of traffic cops that believe in their heart of hearts that gang enforcement deserves just "a taste" by virtue of the hazard they face daily. EVERYBODY hates the gangsters, face it! If the guys responsible for keeping that vermin from the doors of respectable citizens takes a little off the top, who cares.. If his bosses feel a little "left out" well let them have a bump too.. The comissioners already get their taste from the politicians in the form of favors, recognitions,grants, etc. It's called political equity and its long-term if you follow the rules. You all know this! It forms the basis for the distrust we have for authorities, the courts, the correctional combines.. It's comical when you visualize that it may emerge as one of the primary incentives to join a gang.. I mean, "who loves ya baby?"........
Good post, wise observation. Keep nipping at the heels of the shithooks. Somebody's got to.. Much love from the Heartland....
i got here first but by the time i finish writing there will probably be like 6 posts ahead of me,,lol,
yeah that deal about going in to cops personal accounts to see if theyre dirty seems pretty ridiculous, they already catch enough flak from the community, then if they are actually corrupt they will probably figure out a way to launder the money or hide it anyways, but yeah i think the politicians in general are responsible for like 99% of corruption, but people have just got used to that fact i guess so they dont make a big deal of it,
the weird thing about the gov that ive noticed from like the SEC or other gov departments is that even when they do something good like stop insider trading or fraud, you never hear of them returning any money to the people that got frauded, i actually know someone that works at the sec and they told me that the sec never returns any money and never has, their huge beauracracy just absorbs the millions like eating tictacs and no one notices,
on top of that if someone did notice theres nothing that could be legally done, just like the irs, they have gotten better but before they used to have unrestricted power in who and how they went after people, look at how many rich criminals they brought down, and theres another example, they bring down a huge dope dealer on tax evasion and then basically confiscate everything and thats okay, but if a normal cop on the beat pockets a few grand then the whole community is in an uproar,lol,
i hate to put it this way but then all the money they confiscate together with the rest of our taxpayer dollars get flushed down the toillet in iraq, only in america,,lol
fund them today so they can attack us tomorrow, and then regulate our own cops instead of regulating criminals,
regarding all the corruption in the gov i think in like 20 years well finally start to find out what was really going on during the whole iraqi war, even though some snitches are already around, even the whole thing behind 9-11, and will we learn from our mistakes, we havent in the past so i guess history is bound to repeat itself, alright later people
former gangster
If I was a cop that was on the up-n-up, I wouldn't let them check my accounts either. Here we go again, the assholes have more rights than the good guys.
Chief Bratton has ordered 600 of these chairs for the Brass over at Parker Center, precious money that could instead go to Heal The Bay!!
Damn right I am mad!
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What a surprise StillNoScript said...
It's unfortunate that some cops are not willing to disclose information to the public, the public that pays their salaries, mind you. It gives officers who do their job in an ethical and lawful manner, who have nothing to hide, a bad name.
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I also think we should be able to search every cholos car and house because they have nothing to hide and give the raza a bad name. Wachoo you thiink?
Que Locuras
For those who resent the way a lot of LAPD do their job:
I feel the same. But I believe the answer is probably one you'll dislike: we need more cops, and they have to be better paid and better trained.
That's the only way we'll get rid of the cancer of corruption that ruins the chance that good cops have of turning communities around.
It's the reason In and Out employees smile and say "thank you" instead of the snarl you get from other burger joints. They get paid a reasonable goddamn wage.
If I got paid what LAPD gets paid to go out there with the kind of miserable ratio of cops to criminals exists out there now, I'd be on the take too.
LA is what, supposed to get up to 10,000 cops by 09? NY has like 24,000, and they have less than HALF THE SURFACE AREA.
These cops are outgunned, and they don't have the budget to pay the ones they have. No wonder a lot of them decide to switch sides--they know who's winning the gunfight.
ATC, despite what some may think of me, I too believe we need more cops with better pay.
Que Locuras, what does searching a cholo's car have to do with oversight of public spending? First off, and this is going to rub you the wrong way but it's the truth; There's nothing unlawful about being a gang member, in and of itself. I know a lot of people want to change that, but as it stands merely being a member of a gang is not illegal. Searching a citizen's car without their permission or a warrant is a violation of civil rights. However, overseeing spending and accounting for funds used by police agencies is the public's business because it is their money. It's a valid point that if we're going to do this with police, then we should do it with every public official. Well then, the police should go directly to the public to gain support for an initiative to do just that. It's their only way out of this, because what they're doing right now is just making them look as if they have something to hide, and this is a law enforcement agency that doesn't have the room for that image, and they only have their own forefathers to blame for it.
Amen Wally, screw the politicians, they are only in it for themselves and the only ones overseeing them is basically other self-serving politicians...
Funny bull shit about the Jura's resistence in making their finances available for public scrutiny. Hey what's being hidden?
Certainly not millions in hush lana, because as one previous poster has already mentioned, what kind of menso would have his stash money in a passbook account at the local B of A?
Only Mayates and real pendejos would be living large in a McMansion and driving around in a Porsch Carrera or Ferrari!
The operative words when conducting under the table movida's is always, "fly under the radar", your time will come!
The way it usually goes is that the Purchaser of the LE gladhand sets up a private offshore numbered account in some place like the Bahama's or Macao or Cayman Is. and makes "wire money transfers" (still untraceable) as determined by the deposits, and or withdrawals, made in the "Favor Bank" (the mordida!). Very easily handled and very untracable and safe for the LE contact on the take.
SOmetimes, (as I hear it is done!) these greedy Mother Fuckers want cash only and delivery's of big Kilos of 20 dollar bills (50's and up are traceable and if marked the large bills will "hold up" as evidence in a court of law), are made to the LE "takers".
The whole issue of oversight is nothing but a "fart in a thunderstorm", Cops shouldn't have anything to fear (except justifying $200,000. worth of overtime they made in a year!) and even if he was a made cop the public would never see the liquidity of his assets anyway cause it would be stashed away so deep you'd need a back hoe to uncover it.
dq
Ps, you fellow Wallista's are a bunch of "doubting Thomas's". I gave you the lowdown on the "Sopranos" finale which I told youse I got from the "Pasta Fazol" and "Grappa" provider.
Like I said, "one up one down" Fat Bobby Baccalao made the hit cause he had too, but it was a chickenshit get back by Tony S that has turned Bobby against him.
Christopher will be drinking a bottle of "T Bird" within a couple of weeks and then the walls will start tumbling down.
Tony and Johnny Sacks (he's going to cop to a 15 year deal? sheeet!) will roll over with the urging of Dr Melfi, like I said previously, you ingrates!
It's tiresome to come to this blog and see comments from the rightwing peanut gallery going on about "liberal" this and "liberal" that. Why don't you people with a political axe to grind roll of to Hannity's website and be with your own?
This site is supposed to be about gangs, not gov't propaganda.
SNS, you put it down perfectly, and I for one agree with you. But those pinche politicians should set a good example and open their financial records first. If they did that, I doubt that they would be questioned as much. Maybe they should also include some mandatory drug testing while they are at it. Many regular jobs test their employees why should public posts be any different?
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" others exchanging guns for dope with known street gangsters,"
It's weird that Wally should bring this up right now. I have recently been looking for info on Stacy Murphy and her ex Scott Schaffer and can't seem to find all that much. They were all over the news before but now there's no real articles about their sentences. I have found a few small articles, so I know that the courts gave them lots of love. But it just seems too weird that no newspapers would really follow up on this. I do realize that both of them were very well connected politically and that that helped them out. I'm also aware that Schaffer ate cheese and helped out his case. Probation and drug classes for Murphy and 13 months for Schaffer, who can say that that's not some serious love? Now I know that contributing to a politicians political campaign can have many real benefits.
Before I forget, I've also been looking for info on that vato David Garcia, but I can't find anything new. The killing of that Burbank jura happened in 03' and I still haven't heard what the outcome of that case is. Does anyone know if this vato Garcia already got convicted or is he still waiting to go to start trial? I recently saw that one vato from Hawaiian Gardens get convicted for the killing of that one jura and that happened in 05'. So how could that one be said and done and the Garcia case still be out there? Seems kinda strange to still have it in the courts if it's really an open and shut case que~no?
Alrato
SV VBS
I had a dream the other night.
ALL the cops around southern Cal said:
"Fuck it, we aint doin this bullshit no more because the citizens don't back us up".
The predators then began feeding on the prey without fear or any kind of deterrence. It was pure chaos.
Then all the same citizens who bad mouthed the cops were begging them to come and help them, but the cops said:
"Fuck it, we told you but you wouldn't believe us. We told you we weren't the bad guys. Defend yourselves the best way you know how".
Oh what a nightmare it was. Terrifying.
Then I thought of how no cops responded to Florence and Normandie, and what occurred because the cops didn't put a stop to it right there.
I hope that day never comes again.
Imus Fights Back!: 'These bastards went after me. They got me. But they didn't catch me asleep'... Says MSNBC 'unethical'...
IMUS: 'WHEN WILL SHARPTON APOLOGIZE TO DUKE PLAYERS?'
http://www.drudgereport.com/flash3im.htm
U.N. Wants NYC Cops for Peacekeeping
Apr 11
UNITED NATIONS (AP) - Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon asked New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg on Wednesday whether some of the city's police officers could be deployed with U.N. peacekeeping missions.
Recruiting police for the U.N.'s 16 peacekeeping missions around the globe has been historically challenging.
"New York City has one of the most diversified police forces around and I think the secretary-general would like to explore possibilities," U.N. deputy spokeswoman Marie Okabe said before the meeting. "Getting police to join peacekeeping operations is one of the high priorities for the U.N."
Bloomberg left the meeting without speaking to reporters. Stu Loeser, the mayor's spokesman, said his office had no comment.
New York City has recently fallen short of its police recruiting goals so it's unclear if it would have any officers to spare for international peacekeeping.
The U.N. peacekeeping department said 321 American police officers are currently involved in missions abroad, primarily training local police. Of those, 225 are in the Kosovo region of Yugoslavia, and others are in Haiti, Liberia and Sudan.
...ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND, ARE YOU CRAZY?
Prosecutors Drop Charges in Duke Case...
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070411/D8OEJ3VO2.html
LET THE DUKE LIAR BE NAMED & SHAMED...
http://www.nypost.com/seven/04122007/news/columnists/let_the_liar_be_named__shamed_columnists_john_podhoretz.htm
Case Against Nifong Goes On...
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/1268723/
Just in..
Blair blames spate of murders on black culture.
· Political correctness not helping, says PM
· Community leaders react angrily to comments
Patrick Wintour and Vikram Dodd
Thursday April 12, 2007
The Guardian
Tony Blair yesterday claimed the spate of knife and gun murders in London was not being caused by poverty, but a distinctive black culture. His remarks angered community leaders, who accused him of ignorance and failing to provide support for black-led efforts to tackle the problem.
One accused him of misunderstanding the advice he had been given on the issue at a Downing Street summit.
Black community leaders reacted after Mr Blair said the recent violence should not be treated as part of a general crime wave, but as specific to black youth. He said people had to drop their political correctness and recognise that the violence would not be stopped "by pretending it is not young black kids doing it".
Article continues@
http://www.guardian.co.uk/frontpage/story/0,,2055148,00.html
HOLY SHITS AND YIKES...
ALOTA SHIT HAP-NIN' TODAY FOLKS...
all be found at drudges
http://www.drudgereport.com/
SHARPTON VOWS MORE: 'It is our feeling that this is only the beginning. We must have a broad discussion on what is permitted and not permitted in terms the airwaves'... Developing...
FALLOUT...
IMUS DROPPED FROM MSNBC...
*VIDEO: NBCNEWS PRESIDENT...
CBS puts off any further action...
Obama calls for Imus to be fired...
Hillary: 'I've never wanted to go on his show...
Rosie on Imus: 'Thought police' are coming...
Pa. DJ Fired for Repeating Imus Comments...
L.A. Police Sued Over 'Illegal Immigrant' Policy...
Nuclear scanners said ready for use at U.S. ports...
And the gran final...
Mexican magnate becomes world's second richest man.
http://www.drudgereport.com/
"Que Locuras, what does searching a cholo's car have to do with oversight of public spending?"
Its got about as much to do with oversight of public spending as searching a cop's personal account. This is also a violation of civil rights. Lets face it, its got little to do with public spending and everything to do with overzealous watchdog groups that demonize the good guy, and satisfying the do-nothings like Rev. Al and the ACLU. Last time I checked its not illegal to be a cop either.
Hey "sv vbs", you claim to be from "vbs", so would'nt you be the one to know what's cracking with David Garcia? We should be asking you!
Why is SV VBS asking us about David Garcia? Mr VBS is allways telling us he is ingood standing with his homies, seems funny to ask here about one of his homies.
But I will tell you Mr Garcia is waiting in jail for his day, he will be given a trial and death sentence.
I hate that our goverment wastes so much money on the trials of these low lifes. The police should have just killed him when they found him hiding down in Mexico. A bullet is a lot cheaper than a trial and all the appeals before his execution.
I would like to ask SV SBV if david garcia is still loved by his homies who sit in federal jail for helping him flee to mexico
Mr wallista tribune
aka the kansonian mule
aka GET A JOB
We can read the news on the Hundreds of other web-sites quit posting links and stories from all these sites most of us know how to read and search other sites on the internet.
a bunch of baloney!!!!!!!
I have never seen a street level gang copper come in contact with more than lets say $10,000 - $20,000 plus +. If you ever get to see that amount of money or large amount of dope (in the tons), your getting "the officer of the year award".
Now if you talk about those officers in other units like Majors....thats another story.
These guys have bought houses and boats with proceeds ----its an embarrassment to all the good coppers.
All you ever see is gang coppers confiscating no more than a couple of hundred bills and small amount of dope - one pound or less when lucky.
I seen very few successful gangsters ever make more than a janitor's yearly paycheck,..so who really cares.
I'm pretty sure that the dope that Perez stole was not even confiscated by his unit.
Perez and homies were making more money doing illegal crap while off-duty than on.
On other note, that happy dude is correct on one thing that Mexicans are not the majority of gang members as a culture/country group. I got his point that Mexicans fall under the "Hispanic" umbrella - which includes numerous countries and peoples. I personally dont care too much for Cubans to be associated with Mexicans under the same title of Hispanics.
bro, que loqura dude needs to go read some books.
don quixote said...
Funny bull shit about the Jura's resistence in making their finances available for public scrutiny. Hey what's being hidden?
Only Mayates and real pendejos would be living large in a McMansion and driving around in a Porsch Carrera or Ferrari!
This country boy is confused what is a “mayate” are they some kind of stupid or corrupt people. I see people using this word (mayate) in Wally’s world, usually in a derogatory manner like the example above. I wonder who are these stupid “mayates”?
SNS said ……….
However, overseeing spending and accounting for funds used by police agencies is the public's business because it is their money.
Wally’s post is about cops having to reveal personal information not public funds. We do not review the personal bank accounts of people working in the contracts departments of public agencies. That is where most of the sweet deals are made. Anybody wanting to do business with a government/public agency is tempted to increase their odds of getting a lucrative contract.
White Bread
Anonymous said...
Mr wallista tribune
aka the kansonian mule
aka GET A JOB
We can read the news on the Hundreds of other web-sites quit posting links and stories from all these sites most of us know how to read and search other sites on the internet...
Nah.
As I have said before that vato David Garcia is not from my varrio, the vato that died was.
I only ask because Schaffer was sentenced in Feb. and because all of my homies have already been convicted. I am aware that this case was used to influence the juries in all of my homeboys trials. But as I said those are already over so I don't see any other reason to postpone this vatos trial any longer. Think about it, how long can it really take since it is supposed to be an open and shut case??? Anyways I am up to date on what has been happening in my homies cases. I know about a million things that can't be mentioned here. And I personally don't give a shit about this vato. By the way things look maybe they should've used that bullet down in Mexico.
ALRATO
SV VBS
Anonymous said...
"I had a dream the other night.
ALL the cops around southern Cal said:
"Fuck it, we aint doin this bullshit no more because the citizens don't back us up".
The predators then began feeding on the prey without fear or any kind of deterrence. It was pure chaos.
Then all the same citizens who bad mouthed the cops were begging them to come and help them, but the cops said:
"Fuck it, we told you but you wouldn't believe us. We told you we weren't the bad guys. Defend yourselves the best way you know how".
Oh what a nightmare it was. Terrifying.
Then I thought of how no cops responded to Florence and Normandie, and what occurred because the cops didn't put a stop to it right there.
I hope that day never comes again."
Go back to sleep.
Talk about baloney, if this guys a cop he must be on the three wheeler, checking parking meters at the Puente HIlls Mall.
quote;
"I have never seen a street level gang copper come in contact with more than lets say $10,000 - $20,000 plus +. If you ever get to see that amount of money or large amount of dope (in the tons), your getting "the officer of the year award".
Like an old cop told me a long time ago, "most big busts are not due to an investigation but coincidence, like the drug dealer running a boulevard stop sign",
Guys running carga to the neighborhood connections can have lots of feria on them not to mention kilos of heroin,(don't need to be tons to be valuable) etc; they would, and have paid dearly for the knowledge that they would be undisturbed or tipped off to some possible investigation, while delivering to thier regular clients or distributors.
And I'm not talking about the poor Mojado's selling rock on the corner.
Take off the blinders, denial is a mind altering emotion.
dq
I would agree with you guys that the public does not have the right to delve into officers' personal bank accounts, but public funds from the people to a police officer's hands, be it in the form of a check or cold cash, is the public's business no matter which way you cut it. So, yes, once a cop has a check and deposits it into his personal account, it's gone. But up until that point, he should have a microscope up his ass. And, so should all government officials.
Well, I can't help but to believe that I, our resident liberal, am being bated with this Don Imus thing. What do you think I'm going to say? Obviously, we all need to get in a circle and sing Kumbaya. N, where are you? I want you to start it off.
Seriously, I don't think Imus should have been fired. Then again, it's not my business. It's up to NBC, which is owned by General Electric. The bottom line is that they were losing advertisers because of this, wasted air occupied MSNBC's programming schedule during the hours that Imus was on, and money was lost. Face it, those who object to Imus comments fought back and they did so in the American way, they protested those that were paying him, and they won. That's a practice of democracy, not political correctness gone a muck. Political Correctness ( a term itself in which the use of has ...'gone amuck'...and perhaps has become politically correct in and of itself...) would have to imply some type of government involvement. There was none. Zero. This was a private matter. It was protested privately (the FCC made no ruling whatsoever, as of yet), and it was dealt with privately. Anyone have a problem with Imus being fired? Get a list of the advertisers that pulled from his show, buy some stationary and a book of stamps, and get to work. I don't know what else to tell ya. Your beef is with the private sector.
My personal opinions on Imus? Well, my belief is that we live in a society marred with hypocrisy, where Whites have come out pretty well. There are certain things minorities say to each other that, although it's no crime for a white person to say, he may not be as welcome to say it as a minority.
I think MSNBC should have kept Imus on the air because 'shock jocking' is what he does. However, I also wouldn't hold it against a Black person to punch Don Imus in his mouth on a street corner, and wouldn't shed a tear if the Black assailant was never identified or found. My father taught me about what's appropriate to say in front of Blacks when I was like 5, after an incident I had with a Black kid down the street. My dad didn't cry and whine, "what am I supposed to do, explain to my son that Black people can use the word 'nigger' but he can't? How's he going to understand that?". Instead, he perfectly explained to me that Black people are going to say certain things to each other that a White person shouldn't repeat or mimic. And, I got it. It wasn't difficult. Yeh, we were nutty liberals, alright.
At the end of the day, I don't know who the bigger cry babies are. Blacks who complain about racial issues while often exaggerating, or Whites that have the gall to complain about Blacks complaining, considering the history of this country. To these ears, the crying of Whites is far more repulsive.
As usual, Matt Drudge baiting readers with misleading headlines.
If you read the transcript that the 'Imus Fighting Back' link directs to, Imus is quoted as saying,
"If I hadn't have said it I wouldn't be here. So let's stop whining about it...You gotta stop complaining. I said a stupid, idiotic thing that desperately hurt these kids. I'm going to apologize but we gotta move on."
http://www.drudgereport.com/flash3im.htm
Turns out, Imus is a bigger man than Drudge thought he was.
Homer or Jethro aka "Log Cabin Republicans" want to know:
This country boy is confused what is a “mayate” are they some kind of stupid or corrupt people. I see people using this word (mayate) in Wally’s world, usually in a derogatory manner like the example above. I wonder who are these stupid “mayates”?
Kind of the same as like the rural folk, people you would know, who when they get something new, like the hillbilly in the old movie, "Gods Little Acre", he gets a new car, and won't share with the family, then drives it around like a bigshot until the engine blows up. Then goes on a rampage about who's to blame, finally he gets back on his donkey and is happy because he has an "understanding" with the beast and is content.
Anyway something like that only more colorfully dressed and prone to wear lots of bling.
22 Arrested As Feds Target Violent L.A. Gang
LOS ANGELES, Apr. 12, 2007 - A two-year probe of a violent South Los Angeles street gang culminated Thursday with 22 arrests and seizures of drugs and guns in a series of raids over five hours that led to a neighborhood evacuation until tear gas drove a suspect out of a home.
Those arrested were reputed members and associates of the Neighborhood Crips, authorities said.
"They are a very violent street gang," said Susan Raichel of the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. "They have been involved in numerous murders, numerous drive-by shootings."
"Here you have armed drug dealers," she said. "They're just intimidating the neighborhood to maintain control of their turf."
About 500 federal, state and local law enforcement agents served search and arrest warrants, mostly in South Los Angeles. Two were served in San Bernardino and Covina, authorities said.
The arrests were mainly peaceful, although one man sought for federal firearms violations refused to come out of his South Los Angeles house when authorities came to arrest him around 4:30 a.m., Raichel said.
Residents, some in their pajamas, were evacuated from a one-block area in buses and a SWAT team was called in, she said.
The standoff continued for nearly 2½ hours until tear gas was fired into the home.
"He immediately came out and gave up," she said.
Altogether, 12 people were arrested for investigation of federal firearms and narcotics crimes and 10 were held on state drug and weapons allegations, Raichel said.
Seven of those arrested on federal warrants already were behind bars for other crimes, she said.
Another 11 people were still being sought.
Authorities also seized 24 guns, less than a pound of marijuana, some of the drug Ecstasy, $40,000 in cash and "a small quantity of counterfeit $10 bills," Raichel said.
During the two-year investigation, authorities also bought or recovered 28 other guns, including assault weapons, and drugs ranging from crack cocaine to methamphetamines, the ATF said.
"We will not stand idly by while street gangs wreak havoc on our communities," Los Angeles Police Chief William Bratton said in a statement.
"Today ATF is reinforcing the message that we will not put up with armed gang violence and the drug trade that fuels it," ATF Special Agent in Charge John A. Torres said in a statement.
Copyright © 2007 KABC-TV and The Associated Press (AP). All rights reserved.
Again Mr. DQ
Your WRONG!!!!
Gang units will almost never stop a big shipment of dope. If they do, you will have a major shoot out and a couple of dead bodies.....que idiota. I'm starting to see your ture colors of some sort of know it all out- dated beer belly gangster reject.
Just in,
CBS Fires Don Imus Over Racial Slur.
This completes the days news on BBC One, we will now lead straight into God Save the Queen...
PS. This has to hurt Anonymous, bad day for the Klan.
why is everybody talking about this Imus character ? Did anybody even know who Imus was a before all the news coverage? I never heard of that guy with the messy hair, why odes anybody give a shit if he call anybody a hoe or mayate.
I just figured out why we are taking abou Imus on this blog, is he the one calling blacks "stupid mayates" or "rude and condesending civil employees."
Jetho from the cabin
"The Neighborhood Crips"..LOL.
Watch out. The "Gangsta Crips" are next.
Following them will be "The Brims", then "The Pirus". We already know about the "P Stones".
Also, next on the list will be a gang called "East Los". Then "South Los". After that will be that menacing gang called "West Los", and then a ruthless gang called "San Fernando Valle", also known as "the 818".
I see KABC is getting their info. from the same lady in Modesto who said that Surenos are from Mexico and Nortenos are from the United States. (imagine the fights that casued on play grounds the next day..) She must have forgot about the third gang, "Tejano".
When you guys praise Wally for having at least his knowledge of gang identities, monikers, and territories down, I see what you're talking about.
Posted on Thu, Apr. 12, 2007
Gang leader gets 13-year prison term
A reputed leader of the Nuestra Familia prison gang was sentenced to 13 years in prison Thursday by a Monterey County judge.
Robert Patrick "Bubba" Hanrahan, 35, was convicted of possessing three-quarters of a pound of cocaine for sale for the benefit of the gang. Judge Lydia Villarreal increased his sentence because he was armed at the time of his arrest and had prior convictions for robbery and drug dealing.
Hanrahan and co-defendant Leticia Salcido were arrested on Aug. 27, 2004, when members of the Narcotis Enforcement Team of Monterey County served a search warrant on their Christenson Avenue home in Salinas. Inside, authorities found more than two pounds of methamphetamine, the cocaine, a loaded .40-caliber semi-automatic handgun and gang- and drug-related paraphernalia.
In Hanrahan's jeans, investigators found $4,600 in cash and the keys to a new red Lincoln Navigator parked outside the residence.
Salcido was sentenced to eight years in prison for the crimes on Nov. 9. Hanrahan had failed to appear in court eight months earlier and was a fugitive. Three days after Salcido's sentence, he was arrested trying to re-enter the country at the San Ysidro boarder crossing.
Law enforcement officials have described Hanrahan as the one-time leader of the Nuestra Familia's Salinas regiment.
I sent the earlier one about the raid on the cripos tambien but forgot to sign off, despensa.
El Montero
Anonymous said...
Hey I just figured out why we are taking abou Imus on this blog, because he completed a higher education; the 5th and 6th grade!
Those being held back again another year are:
Homer, Jethro, Abner, Goober, otis, Gomer, Billy Bob, Cletus, Horace, Elrod, and Eustice, Bodean, Delmont, Cooter and Bucephelus. Rubyjane and Shelbylyn Jazlean, Amaleen, Lindieanne, Zerelda Lee, and Faylene shore up the women-folk side.
Newspapers/magazines I subscribe to:
The National Enquirer The Globe
TV Guide Soap Opera Digest
Rifle and Shotgun Bassmasters
__2__ Number of times I've seen a UFO
__4__ Number of times I've seen Elvis
__1__ Number of times I've seen Elvis in a UFO
Shoe Size: __10__ Left __9__ Right
Jim your killing me, it's too late to laugh this hard.
Hey, by the way, you left out Festis, GoneyRea, SiPhylis,and Rickomortis, all soon to be staring in the "ANna Nicole Simpson" Movie which premiers in Dogpatch,Miss next week, Don Imus is the MC.
PS Man I hope the gang squad doesn't bust a drug deal going down it would mean a major shoot out and a couple of dead bodies!!
HEavens to Mercatroid!!
dq
Who is Imus? and Who cares about the Mafia Telenovela Sopranos..Sapranos...Soprenos?
No one I know watches that show....its stupid.
Bubba must've had a good lawyer cause thirteen years aint nothing for a seasoned convict. Also, homie must've been eligible for three strikes and all kinds of enhancements that would've sent less sophisticated criminals away for life. SHIT A "FELON IN POSSESION OF A FIREARM" BEEF CAN NET YOU 25 YEARS WITH THE FEDS ...EG LARRY HOOVER.
Anonymous said...
Who is Imus? and Who cares about the Mafia Telenovela Sopranos..Sapranos...Soprenos?
No one I know watches that show....its stupid.
12:13 AM
...Well dum dum, it soytainly has you talkin' bout it, wiff a lil'l anger too, I detect. Did you spend all of o nite being a grumpy bear and pouting? Grow a spine if it isn't too late and stop making life hard for your poor wife!
does anyone know who bubba's lawyer was for that case? someone needs his card...
ON CNN'S HOMICIDE IN HOLLENBECK,
THERES A COP THAT CALLS HIS SARG. VIA CELL PHONE,AND HE SAYS,"SARG,DUDE! THERES SO MUCH DOPE IN THIS CAR ITS REDICULOUS",
WELL IF THERE WAS,THEN WHY DID THE SUBJECT GET ARRESTED FOR A COUPLE OF BAGGIES FULL OF SHIT!WHY DID THE JUDGE THROW OUT THE CASE ON A TECHNICALITITY,"ILLEGAL SEARCH AND SEIZURE" THE SO CALLED SUSPECT WAS NO WHERE NEAR HIS CAR WHEN HE GOT DETAINED,COPS WALKED TO HIS CAR AND
SEARCHED IT FOR NO REASON,THEY FIND A LITTLE AMOUNT OF DRUGS,THEN THIS COP GETS PROMOTED TO DETECTIVE? LMAO!
HOLLENBECK RESIDENT
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