Thursday, July 24, 2008

NORTENO DROPOUT KILLED IN TC.
Robert "Huero" Gratton, the Norteno dropout at the center of a massive Federal RICO case against the NF was killed in a traffic collision on July 18, 2008. Diligent students of the subject will remember that the 44-year-old Gratton, a long time NF member, dropped out, flipped and testified against a legion of NF members and associates in what came to be known as Operation Black Widow.

Although he claimed to be a high ranking member, a number of law enforcement officials close to the subject believe that he pumped up his status and hadn't climb all that high up the corporate ladder. Nevertheless, he did provide sufficient valid information to send a lot of his former associates to Federal prison.

According to the scant information, Gratton was living in Palmdale. At 1:15 AM he was apparently backing up on the 14 Freeway near Aqua Dulce Canyon when he was struck from the rear by Rafael Hernandez. Hernandez only received minor injuries but Gratton was killed instantly. The CHP suspects that both drivers might have been under the influence. If we find out more, we'll let you know.

26 comments:

Anonymous said...

hey wally welcome back man, how have you been ? well i guess they really cleaned up drew street huh ? i drove in there last friday to take a look and they have a mobil police station half way up the hill, hopefully it will get better, i remember when i first went up in that area about two years ago we were having a church meeting and some things popped up and the lapd closed off the street because they were looking for some gangbangers and thats when i first heard of that area belonging to the avenues, hey what happened to the varrio gp glassel parke did they get swalloed up by avenues?

anon-e-mouse said...

Well look who is back. Let the good times from the past begin again.

Barf in the Hat said...

Too bad about the Norteno turncoat Gratton BOO-HOO. He seems to have been rear-ended a little differently than his NF carnales would have liked but asi es la vida loca.

Anonymous said...

Cudahy the city run by drug cartels and gangs?

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-cudahy27-2008jul27,0,4140201.story

StillNoScript said...

Welcome back, Wally.

I don't see Nortenos having a lot of sympathy for a guy they affectionately refer to as "Ratton". And, from what you've said, seems LE doesn't have a lot of respect for him, either. He did write a book, called Rise and Fall of the Nuestra Familia. Could that be the reason he rubbed LE the wrong way?

Palmdale, of all places...what a place for a former Norteno to die.

StillNoScript said...

Wally, a lot of rumblings around the web are that the story's a farce. Went to one website where a lot of Nortenos post and no one's buying it. Any possibility of a faked death, or a shameful attempt at one? There's also nothing about it at Google news. This guy was a main player in one of the largest FBI anti street gang operations in history. You'd think one news agency would run a story on his death, even if just a sentence or two. There's zilch. There's not even anything in a regular google web search. Tried every combination imaginable. One person at this other website had your blog entry pasted. So far, InTheHat is the only source on the entire world wide web for Gratton's death. Which means, either you're on the inside track, or you caught a snag.

Anonymous said...

welcome back wally, i thought this site was done i hope you stick around a little more often.

Anonymous said...

maybe you could open up the comments if your not going to be around much.i'm sure traffic has died down a little.

Anonymous said...

It wasn't so much Huerito that took down the NF in operation black widow but it was Lizard Hernandez. He had the keys to the south bay area regiment who was working for the FBI and was still making money selling drugs at the same time. Welcome back Wally.

Back from the dead,
RetiredJoker

Anonymous said...

The Mexican snitch was drunk and crashed into another drunk Mexican.....and they both got killed?

Wow! 2 mutts taken off the street.

Outstanding!!

Anonymous said...

Back in the day GP and AVES had a meet at GP park, they (AVE) told GP to hook up with AVES or else the would be rivals. GP and AVE became rivals. Some of the GP members that did want to go at it with AVES ended up becoming members of DREW street. If you go back 15 to 20 years, there was no DREW STREET. That area was a neutral zone and TRS was south of San Fernando Rd and Fletcher Ave. Hear GP in still around, a lot of dudes from GP are in the pen. The only AVES click near there was CYPRESS AVE.

Ray said...

Ray

Welcome back Wally. I thought you were never ever going to post a topic again.

Bill from Chicago said...

Glad to have you back :)
Looking forward to your insight.

Anonymous said...

its good 2 see this blog up and running again. did u press chargers against ur stalker?

Kacuueee said...

Well regarding a lil on Huerito Gratton, aka actual spelling. You all probably know he wasn't all you he claimed to be. Hardly a Norteno really. Nope not a high ranking NF Capt., he was in fact a CI just due to the fact that all of his knowings was when he was up at the Bay for that short time next to Cuate RUB from T.C. Gratton's book.....self pub., and he rec'd most of his info from the Bay, Santo Rosa LE and reveiwed the court docs indictments and soforth, so yup anyone could put something together and write around 300pgs. He wasn't the man. Re: him living in Palmdale/Lancaster. This was moreless kind of recent. He was back east in Wisconsin in the W.P. so to speak and actually a special speaker off and on for the company
"Know Gangs" going around talking the talk and of course gett'n some mooola. A few years back he was down south in Anaheim and spoke at a Gang Task Force seminar. Through the grape-vine LE guys stated he liked to hear him self talk and blew things/fabricated alot. Tried to make people believe in the first couple of minutes but didn't know how to tell the full truth. Why?? Because he didn't and wasn't NF. Oh by the way when he was their, LAPD or Santa Ana PD busted him for driving under the Mary Jane, so he had to spend some of his money for the CJ hotel but only for 30 days. Actually he should of stayed back East but really he couldn't stay away and bascially wanted to attempt to get in the mix again and try to be somebody. That's my take on it. I may not be too far off. K Just go on line and pull up the Santa Rosa Operation Black Widow. You'll get the jest of the story. Ok can/could go on but will halt for now.
Kacuueee

Anonymous said...

The real Rata behind Operation Black Widow was Daniel "Lizard" Hernandez. What a Disgrace this guy is... A key Holder at that !!!! He should man up and take himself out!!

Anonymous said...

Wally are you going to come back to this blog, or just post once every 3 months?

Anonymous said...

I met that Ratta Lizard In Morgan Hill Ca.... i knew something did't smell right. it was that piece of shit!!!

drinking with tony, said...

"i knew something did't smell right. it was that piece of shit!!!"

Spam solicites the same nomenclature Wally. - Woderfully primitive.

Anonymous said...

Gratton's was a member of the NF (had it tattooed across his back in the pen) and anyone knows you don't do that unless you got some permission. He did hold rank but for a very short time which was verified by CI's and wiretaps. Those spreading the rumor that he wasn't (so I heard) is a couple ex-coppers who go around speaking about Latino gangs and didn't like the competition. One of them is the same guy who left negative comments about your book on amazon. I do agree--gratton was a money hungry snitch who liked to hear himself speak--but much of what he said was truth--how else did he only serve a couple years for a 187? He got a good deal cause he had a lot to offer. Yes he was still slam'ng dope till the end, but what the info about his past is truth--anyone saying otherwise has their own motivation for making up rumors.

Anonymous said...

Eventually ALL THE NF WILL BE NO MORE.THEYRE ALL SNITCHING AND CRUMBLING AND THE OLD NUESTRA RAZA HAS ESTABLISHED 'NORTHERN RIDERS'IN ORDER TO DISARM AND BAND ALL NORTENOS INSIDE AND OUTSIDE OF PRISON WHO PUSH NF POLITICS.ITS OVER FOR THEM FOOLS,THEY WAGED WAR ON THEMSELVES AND FINALLY THE RAZA WILL BE FREE FROM THE STINGY OPPRESIVE HANDS OF THE ADDICTED NF STRING HOLDERS.THE FUTURE OF THE POLITICS UP NORTH ARE OVER,HUERITO JUST SHOWED WHAT THE NF IS REALLY ABOUT.

Anonymous said...

^ NF is falling? That isn't happening any time soon.....

Anonymous said...

First off I don't think Anyone on this blog knows what they r talking about n it's funny to read what people THINK they know , but for reals WHO cares??? Huero WAS a high ranking member of NF the guy had NF 4 inches across the front of his neck and about 5 other places on his body!! As I can say I had witnessed MANY meetings that he had with other NF members that were on the streets and just paroled , over heard MANY conversations ? ! As well as weekly letters he got thru the mail! I was told how to de code them as well as how he was greeted when other NF members came by his apt. I can also tell you HE is still alive I have seen him with my on eyes about two years ago ! He was tired of going to prison so he snitched can u blame him Damn!, when it comes to being loyal it should be to yourself who cares if he snitched so he could be promised freedom forever! Snitching on a bunch of low life criminals that kill our kids and innocent people Come on people who's side are YOU on grow up and realize that being in prison or in a gang or loyal to a gang doesn't make u tough , working hard to support yourself and family being a good role model for your children THAT'S what makes you a real man !,, geez u people got shit twisted WAKE UP , go eat some good food , travel love life enjoy life gangs are out of style and frankly u should be embarrassed if your still bangin !, it's like a man wearing bell bottom pants and a tight ass button down shirt showing your chest hairs .... Embarrassing !,,

modesto dboy! said...

Good point. Knew the guy. And I'm blown away by the fact he was a snitch! Snitches get stitches. Oh well!

modesto dboy! said...

Lol I knew Weto as well and you're right he was a high ranking official. He was my supplier for years. But I didn't know he had snitching in him. Snitching ain't cool Jo matter who you do It on. There's nothing manly about being a snitch. He shouldn't have gotten involved with them people in the first place. He wasn't man enough to say no. But you response is real talk though.

Anonymous said...

For kuccuuee obviously you for sure don't even know a bit of what your talking about. Need to get your facts straight before you talk.. Obviously your a good diariah mouth and sound good at lying, you don't know what your speaking about.. I Spent 25 years with the guy. I know him personally.