Monday, September 30, 2013

THE ENDLESS CYCLE OF CRIMINAL DYNASTIES

Last week we heard that the Feds and local coppers took down something like 130 Orange County Surenos. The haul apparently included some senior shot callers, Associates and street soldiers as well as female auxiliaries who might just as well be considered Associates. The use of females as enablers and facilitators is nothing new, but in recent years it seems the Carnales have been relying more and more on the abilities of these associated females to do the work the males can't or won't do. Witness the Tablas kite recently published by KQED in NORCAL.

Despite the increasing importance of females in furthering the goals of the Mob, we've yet to hear of any female that has been officially recognized as a shot caller much less a full blown Hermana. Clearly gender equality has yet to make any inroads into the male-dominated society of La Eme. You have to wonder how long it will be before some bright politician decides to file a suit against the Eme forcing the Brothers to induct a woman into their ranks or face Federal discrimination charges.

The subject of female gangsters isn't a mere side issue on the larger issue of criminal gangs. We remember years ago when the LA Times ran an Op Ed piece by Greg Boyle. This was on the occasion of Bill Bratton being hired by the LAPD. The Op Ed piece took the form of advice to the newly appointed chief. Among the more startling claims Boyle made was that he had never seen any evidence of multi-generational gang families. He also called the gang phenomenon "dis-organized" crime.

Anyone even tangentially familiar with that world knows these assertions to be nonsense. As we know, there is a fairly high level of sophistication in the organizational structure of the Eme. There's the enforcement arm(s), the intelligence gathering arm, the communications system and the core of command and control operators. There's also the operational level in charge of the movement of drugs and money. You might also claim legitimately that there's the farm team comprised of set-bangers who earn their stripes, show heart and in doing so come to the attention of senior management. You could also assert that the Eme also has a political arm. More on that in another post.

The recent indictments against Orange County and Florencia (both of them numbering in the hundreds of defendants), and this coming after dozens of indictments since the early 1990s, has to make one ask the question: Is any of this doing any good?

The statistics seem to indicate that putting a lot of people in prison drives down the murder/violence rates. Even with the lousy economy, crime has been going down. This has created a lot of head-scratching among the stat geeks because the accepted doctrine is that poverty drives crime. That hasn't happened. We've got historic rates of high unemployment and a record number of people on some sort of government assistance and yet the crime stats have remained low. At the same time we've got California prisons bursting at the seams. Obviously, bad actors off the streets keeps the streets safer.

At the same time, we're seeing the same or higher level of gang prosecutions as there was in the 1990s. What's the explanation? It may be that gangsters have gotten smarter in the way they conduct their business -- less killing and more focus on business.

The Cosa Nostra learned a long, long time ago that mass blood letting is bad for business. The Carnales may be operating from the Italian Mob's playbook. Keep the violence to a minimum and solve disputes with either cash or some other concession. Tablas' kite seems to bear this out. He ordered Florencia to check the set banging and refer all disputes to Pelican Bay. We've heard this before in 1990s and to a large degree it worked.

And it may work again.

The bottom line is that massive indictments aren't going to stop the increasing sophistication and growth of criminal enterprises. But it may put the brakes on the sort of bloodshed we saw twenty years. Your thoughts.


24 comments:

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Anonymous said...

Eme has a political arm? I'd like to see what you have to say on that?

Anonymous said...

"Eme has a political arm? I'd like to see what you have to say on that?"

You mean the Southside Government? Its the Eme's version of northern structure although we never hear of it, because EME kills fools that talk to the press, with Huero Sherm being the exception, and he don't talk about that stuff...this blog is getting boring...i think you sounding unhinged wally...maybe liven things up with some reviews of the books all the dropouts are doing...Rene Boxer Enrique has teamed up with Mundo to do an Eme encyclopedia. Also curious about that NF book by another boxer, mendoza i think.

Rene E., if you read this blog, lay of the metaphors in your writing, they don't help and just highlight where you wrote something versus what Chris Blatchford writes which is more polished i.e., the hearts of those in the night rider were as black as the car itself...sounds like 6th grader wrote it...that said, it was good book, although you come off as an a-hole who took advantage of those who looked out for you...i also get the vibe that you really were afraid of Niteowl (Baca)...teh new CDC list of emeros has all the Grajeda's as being in questionable status with the pilli...anything on that?

RobThomas said...

Ah, Tony's back! Even leaving a post praising EME for not caving into the political correctness of our time and putting women in charge. Oh, how I've missed this place.

Anonymous said...

This is why I love and hate this site. It's still active after 10 years with lots of good info and comments, but Wally only updates about every 2 years.

Anonymous said...

Helloooooooooo.... anyone here? I thought this place was going to liven up in here.

Anonymous said...

some major players from Rene's book have died i.e., Chinaboy Arias(killed by cellmate) and Black Dan (OD), as well as Lalo Martinez (OD) who called the shot that led to that big pelican bay riot...and the grajeda's according to the CDCR are in bad status....come on man, your dropping the ball

Anonymous said...

oh yeah, i think Tupi also died...from what i don't know.

Anonymous said...

When is the EME and NF going to merge to make one CALI SUPER GANG?

Anonymous said...

Why was Chinaboy killed? And any info on the Grajedas? I know Chilio got called a coward in the feds about 10 yrs ago before paroling by a senior carnal

Anonymous said...

When did Tupi and Lalo die?

Anonymous said...

"The local Los Angeles politicians had no fraternal motivation either in supporting the Crip and Blood truce, they were just looking for photo opportunities to be seen shaking hands with African American gang members hoping to reap votes in the South Central L.A. communities. They hired gang members into their failed gang intervention programs and paid them with millions of taxpayer funds. But the truce and the programs all failed to make it safer in the L.A. Projects.

Even in the U.S. prison system these gang truces have been tried several times. They have all failed within a short time.

And thank God for that. Can you imagine what a gang formed from all aligned Crip and Blood gangs or between the Mexican Mafia and the Nuestra Familia might be capable of? No longer distracted by their war against their rival gangs, they could direct all their efforts into victimizing citizens, killing cops, and industrializing their drug production and distribution."

- Richard Valdemar, retired LA sheriff

http://www.policemag.com/blog/gangs/story/2012/04/gang-truces-usually-turn-out-badly-for-cops.aspx

Anonymous said...

you can google eulalio martinez and see the funeral notice page his family has up...it doesn't say anything about "M" and had very few entries when i saw it...kind of sad

ChinaBoy was killed by his cellie, who was paranoid that Chinaboy was going to kill him... Black Dan OD's a few years back, i think it got mentioned in Rene's Book. and Lalo OD'D in June or July of 2013. i don't know when Tupi died, just what i heard and was hoping Wally would wake up and say something about it

don quixote said...

Sheriff Baca said Monday that the department had cooperated fully with the investigation, and he defended the county jails as the “safest jails in the United States.”

“We do not tolerate misconduct by any deputies,” he said.

Oh Yeah!
Speaking of endless criminal dynasties Wally, maybe after decades of abusive behavior by LACSD at that rectum of humanity, called the LA County Jail, the Feds will prosecute a shitload of those gangsters called "officers of the law" and maybe use the RICO statute to investigate one of LA's most troublesome gangster problems.

Anonymous said...

don quixote say's

Sheriff Baca said Monday that the department had cooperated fully with the investigation, and he defended the county jails as the “safest jails in the United States.”

“We do not tolerate misconduct by any deputies,” he said.

Oh Yeah!
Speaking of endless criminal dynasties Wally, maybe after decades of abusive behavior by LACSD at that rectum of humanity, called the LA County Jail, the Feds will prosecute a shitload of those gangsters called "officers of the law" and maybe use the RICO statute to investigate one of LA's most troublesome gangster problems.

Anonymous said...

NF is ready to open the lines of communication with EME

Anonymous said...

NF is ready for the sit down

DC

Anonymous said...

The Familia is ready for a sit down.

DC

Anonymous said...

Look in Real gangs females are just that split tails they will never get into a male blood in blood out gang that starts in prison bleeding once a month does not count eme,brand especially there isnt a place for a hermana,like this blog my personal experience goes back almost 30 years Im a triple O.G Peckerwood from Co.Co.County One of the most biggest and solidest car for the last 40 years in the California penal system,Its a car not a prison gang even tho staff has been trying to affilated the car for many years to know avail up to this point untill my next post you fellow internet bangers stay up

Anonymous said...

What ever happen to the EME's Mike "Musclehead" Salinas ?

Anonymous said...

Quiet a few Carnales have died in the past few years a others have fell out of grace or dropped out & debriefed all together.The list of the dearly departed as I know it & heard it goes as follows,killed were Tati,ChinaBoy & I heard Peewee from Aves.ODs were Lalo & Black Dan.Drop outs Jesse Moreno from Posole S.D & Cowboy from Basset (who spoke out against using the bible as a ticket to drop out & ended up doing it himself,how ironic)And how about the ex-crip who became a Carnal for a little while & challenged Sana,Aint that a slap in the face?I wonder WHO made that trick a Carnal & did his Padrinos catch any steal for it?

Anonymous said...

I saw that Fox Undercover piece which claimed he had ties to Armenians. He was probably a good money maker but his past caught up to him. I believe PeeWee from Avenues hasn't died but is still serving Federal time. After reading Tony Rafael's Mexican Mafia book I clearly thought PeeWee's younger brother would have been made a carnal by now. I believe he's in Lancaster rather than Pelican Bay.

Anonymous said...

china boy was killed - he came from very large family The Arias family in LA ' there were several people in the fam named china boy or chino (not to be confused, his uncle