Friday, June 17, 2005

SANA BUSTED
Just when you thought that the FBI was too busy chasing terrorists in the US to worry about ORGANIZED CRIME, here they are taking out the legendary PETER "SANA" OJEDA and 23 of his alleged crimies.

On Wednesday, 300 coppers served 40 warrants after a 2-year investigation on Orange County soldiers and shot callers. Ojeda and the other 23 were charged under RICO statutes, making it the first Eme RICO prosecution in Orange County. But not the first in the state.

To us, this looks like the latest installment of an ongoing FBI campaign to rattle the Eme's and NF's cages and get shot callers off the streets. Students of history will recall that similar RICO prosecutions were initiated in NORCAL in OPERATION BLACK WIDOW against the NF. RICO prosecutions also resulted in three major EME trials in LA COUNTY, US vs. AGUIRRE, US vs. DETEVIS and US vs. MARTINEZ. The FBI never gave the LA County prosecutions a butch name. This one in Orange County was apparently called OPERATION NEMESIS.

Eme/NF watchers will also recall that all those cases were made possible by the testimony of confidential informants. OPERATION BLACK WIDOW's informant was ROBERT GRATTON. In the Aguirre case ERNIE "CHUCO" CASTRO wore a wire and rolled on his brothers. In the Detevis case, there was John Turscak who cooperated with LE. And Max Torvisco was the CI in the Martinez case. So you have wonder if there's a snitch in this case as well. There probably is. It's almost impossible to make big cases like this without a guy on the inside.

I know a little bit about SANA's history. But I know for a fact one or more of you readers out there know a lot more than I do. Let's hear about it. This bust is a significant event in Eme history. And now is the time to comment. In fact, I'll take any significant comment and put it up as a regular posting so everyone can read it without going to the comments section.

182 comments:

Anonymous said...

Just thought i would share with you what i know. Sana lived a block away from me in La habra but i did not know this until about a month ago. I had ran into a old homeboy who is still in the mix with everything and we were just shooting the breeze and he let me know that he was around and started regulating here in La habra. For years EME never really made any noise around here except a few threats through homeboys in the pen to tell us to stop the drive by shootings. Well once he set up shop and noticed there was a little action he started making once tax free drug dealers pay rent.From what i have heard about him through people that have met him, the old dude was cool. A couple of old homeboys were working for him which i couldnt belive that this late in the game they were that stupid but i guess peer pressure is a MF .Anyways needless to say the dude was hot and now busted. Also at age 63 he still had game and was bagging local hood rat in her late 30,s not bad looking either. Well thats all i know . Alrato!

Anonymous said...

Not trying to get off the subject or maybe its related, I heard that alot of this presure started surfacing when the chicano rappers were starting to get taxed here in LA and down towards SD, does anyone know about this?

Anonymous said...

I thought Senor "S" was from Santa Nita a Click in Santa Ana off of first and Jackson.
He always held court there. I imagine this will take down that whole crew along with guys like Gabrial Ramerez if he is or was out now.He had something like Chuco at salvador park, you know the no driveby clause. He made allot of the brothers in SA and OC. I thought there was a real real old guy who had more pull in that niehborhood, but maybe not as far as La eMe. Called lots of moves on the street, like the trip with a dude named Sharkie from 2nd Street (I could be wrong about where he was from). He had lots of pull with the woods in the area too. He associated with Donny Trout and Bobby Crane also some of the younger guys like Milo. He called OC Jail "My Jail"

the guy from Palm Hall

CONEX said...

qvo people, gente, homies, carnals or whatever you want to be called ?
i was just reading this blog and i cant believe that youngsters are still listening to these old geezer gangsters who mainly use the tax feria to shoot carga in there venas, they are just a bunch of tecatos and these youngsters need to wise up and get some huevos, i know whats its like i did about 10 years back in the late 70s and early 80s, back then we had sur eme and norte but you had to be your own man and not follow orders, i was involved in broncas at cmc chino central, soledad south and tracy i associated with carnals but that was it i never got involved with the politics, i had many camaradas which included some negros,gavachos and nortenos, one vato i schooled since he was 18 and hit the pen was nino from the fresno bulldogs and now hes one of the main shotcallers hes around 42 years old , i associated with carnals such as termite from east side los, batman from orange county, porky from varrio nuevo estrada and smilon from hazard, i was also a trusty in the county in 1980 when i came down for another courtcase thats when i met joe morgan (pegleg) i used to take him his comida in high power across from visiting, im just saying this to prove who i am . i still talk to alot of carnals but do my own thing nowadays , no more crime , just kicking back and having a few beers on the weekend. nowadays you cant trust no one , so let the youngsters know to stand on there own two feet and not be pressured. after all carnals kill each other all the time tambien and homies dont, thats what a og homie is all about , someone you can always trust.

Anonymous said...

SANA WAS FROM SANTA ANA BUT FOR WHATEVER REASON HAD BEEN LIVING IN LA HABRA AND WAS ARRESTED IN LA HABRA.CHECK OC REGISTER LA TIMES ECT ECT!!!

Anonymous said...

Hey this is the guy from Palm Hall, You knew Batman? Isnt he all off into that NA/AA trip now?

Anonymous said...

http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/cac/pr2005/093.html


Here is a link to the US Attorneys site. It tells a little more.

Its looks like they got most every eMe associate in the area. That aint locked up.

Anonymous said...

SANA WAS FROM FTROOP SANTA ANA BUT WAS HAVING PROBLEMS WITH THEM FOR SOME REASON LETS NOT FORGET THAT ART ROMO FROM FTROOP WHO WAS REALLY SANA BOSS GOT ARREST A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND IS IN PROTECTIVE CUSTODY SHARKY FROM SECOND ST SANTA ANA WAS WORKING FOR SANA AND WAS RUNING THE OC COUNTY JAIL A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO BEFORE HE GOT SEND TO PRISION
WORD OUT IN THE STREET IS THAT THE NEXT SHOT CALLER IS GOING TO BE FROM BIG STANTON.

Anonymous said...

Sharky ? I thought he got got
outside the Baltires Apartments? Must be a diferent Sharky. I am almost sure that Sana was from Santa Nita not F-Troop. I spoke with him in the early 90,s about the whole Diamond Strret FxTroop thing and Q Ball and That samoan from F Troop Nipo? He said that he was siding with Diamond on that (Diamond from LA not that little click in SA)

Anonymous said...

Big Stanton hasn't got allot of Vato's to Choose from. Crow Vilage is/was bigger, but a few of the Veterano's are in the hat. What about Gabby from West13 or Oso from Fith Street, I heard he had that Virus and was in CIM East?

Anonymous said...

After reading the US Attornies site, I wonder how TOPO is going to feel about the Name "Ojeda" organization. I guess he is not with La eMe any more. Got his own family like LCN? :-) It might sound stupid but folks get wacked for less....

Anonymous said...

TO THE GUY THAT KEEP SAYING SANA IS FORM SANTA ANITA IS WRONG I A VET FROM FTROOP SANA WAS FTROOP AND WORK FOR ART ROMO BEFORE HE GOT BUSTED SO I KNOW FOR SURE SANA WAS FROM FTROOP AND SHARKY WAS FROM SHARK SIDE SECOND ST AND THERE IS NO DIAMON ST FTROOP IN LA THE ONL FTROOP CLICKS ARE EL SALVADOR PARK AND ARTESIA FTROOP THE ORIGINAL ONES AND SANA WAS HAVING TROUBLE WITH HIS HOMEBOY FROM FTROOP THATS WHY HE MOVE FROM SANTA ANA BUT HE WAS STILL FROM FTROOP NEVER FROM SANTA ANITA AND ABOUT BIG STANTON THE NAME THAT KEEPS COMING UP IS CHAPO.

Anonymous said...

THere was a little click in SA called diamond steet. I was talking about the time when those guys from LA shot up some ftroop back in the day. I stand corected on the Santa Nita thing though. Bad memory I guess....

Anonymous said...

Not Santa Anita there is a gang in Santa Ana called SN Santa Nita the first click was the dramatics Johnny Ramerez and Art and Barnito Big Head were all brothers from there and the main area was 1st and Jackson.

Anonymous said...

Sharky from 2nd street with the Big Hooked Nose is DEAD.He got in the way in CMod in OCJ of a fight between Baby Al Sherwin and I think Some other wood from LA. Brand business and got killed.

Anonymous said...

SANA WAS HAVING TROUBLE BECAUSE HE HAD NON FTROOPERS AS SHOT CALLERS LIKE MARCO WHO WAS FROM WEST MYRTLE ST WHEN ART ROMO PUT THE GREENLIGHT ON WEST MYRTLE THEY PAID IT OFF WITH HELP OF MARCO AND SANA THAT WAS THE TROUBLE SANA WAS HAVING WITH FTROOP.

Anonymous said...

Chapo from Stanton isn't he the guy who called the stabbing in the Visiting room in CIM on Chistmas day? That one? You know Quate From La Rana was a bit upset with that move.. On foot in the grave if you ask me.

Anonymous said...

SHARKY DEAD I KNOW HE HAD AIDS AND WAS GETING READY TO GO TO THE PEN HE WAS IN C MODE WHERE HE WAS A SHOOT CALLER THE MAIN HEAD WAS CHAPO FROM BIG STANTON BUT NEVER HEARD HE DIE IN OC JAIL LAST TIME I HEARD HE WAS IN THE MEDICAL UNIT IN THE PEN.

Anonymous said...

You understand that FTroop was in the hat for a while? The beef with Diamond Street in LA. How old are you? Do you not know about that?

Anonymous said...

YES THAT CHAPO PEOPLE ON THE STANTON ARE BEEN COLLECTING TAXES FOR HIM THEY HAD A GUY CALL DILLINGER FROM SANTA ANA AND FLACO FROM LIL STANTON COLLECT THEM.

Anonymous said...

He did have aids( Sharky), he got out and was killed out side those apartments the Baltieres off of McFadden.Ask Shorty from 2nd street.

Anonymous said...

I AM 32 AND LIVE ON THAT AREA ALL MY LIFE EVERYTIME FTROOP USED TO GET A GREENLIGHT ART ROMO WILL TAKE IT OUT FOR THEM AND THEN SANA ALL THE HOMIES USED TO SAID FTROOP CONTROLS THE COUNTY AND FOR A WHILE IT WAS TRUTH FTROOP WAS IN THE BOX BECAUSE OF HOLLYWOOD KILLING THOSE TEACHERS AID AND ART ROMO HAVING HIS BACK.

Anonymous said...

DILLINGER? THE ONE THAT OWNS WWW.SUR13NATION.I8.COM I HEAR HE KNEW SHARKY PRETTY GOOD HE WAS WORKING FOR HIM IN THE COUNTY SHOT CALLING I HEAR OF SHARKY GETING KILL TOO HE NAME WAS DANNY CATANEDA.

Anonymous said...

Chapo is in a bit of trouble from that hit in the visiting room, because Chuco was the one who OK'ed it and there was an offlimits rule because that was the best way to get shit into Palm Hall,as you got to visit back then with the mainline. We could pass kites and you know what else. He does have pull in OC. But Los is what La eMe is really all about and a bad call is a bad call. Especialy when it comes down from the biggest rat ever Chuco..

Anonymous said...

I GUESS CHAPO AINT GETING THE KEYS AFTER ALL THERE WAS ALSO WORD THAT BIG JOE FROM DELHI MIGHT GET THEM BUT THAT RUMOR ABOUT IS PRETTY STRONG OVER HERE IN THE STANTON AREA WASNT CHAPO DOING BUSINESS WITH BARRIO NORWALK?

Anonymous said...

Joe? He is a good canidate. Durans Cousin? I still think Gabby from West 13 would be someone to look for.He had that hot one and took 30 years with no life top. He was made a long time ago and has conections with lots of folks from East Los. He should of gotten out a while ago. Big Rock(Not Luna) from SN got all day for a hot one in LA. He was really second in comand in OC for a long time.He gave Gabby the Keys when he left.

Anonymous said...

He was doing work for some guy, I forget his name from Varrio Norwalk. It caused problems. I know west13 had issues with Norwalk for a while. I think it got Ralf Ponce Jr. and Sr. in the hat. I think youg ralph walks the mainline in OCJ. But not in the Pen.

Anonymous said...

I DONT THINK STANTON AND CROW VILLAGE WANT ANYBODY FROM WEST 13 TO GET THE KEYS DILLINGER WHO WAS WORKING FOR LIL STANTON AND SLIM FROM LIL STANTON GOT BLASTED A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO IT MIGHT BE RELATED TO CHAPO AND NORWALK DOING BUSINESS.

Anonymous said...

I do not think any one clicka get to say. It comes down from guys Like TOPO Peters and Quate or some combination
of high ranking brothers including what Sana says and Brothers at the Bay. Shyrock is one. There is no formal Councel but there is structure(Pardon the word)Sana got his position because of his realtionship with other brothers. Not a OC call really.

Anonymous said...

Hey is that guy that looks like the Mad Magizine guy from Stanton still around? Gerald was his name.

Anonymous said...

HAVENT SEEN HIM I LIVE IN THE LIL STANTON AREA YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT THAT ITS UP TO THE MAIN HEADS SOME PEOPLE ARE EVEN SAYING THEY MIGHT BE MORE THAN ONE BOSS

Anonymous said...

Benjamin Peters isn't dead? I thought I read an article to that effect. He's no longer listed as being in the BOP.

Anonymous said...

TO THE GUY JOHNNY I THINK YOUR COMMENT IS STUPID YOU TALK ABOUT DOING YOUR THING IN THE PEN KICKING BACK WITH EVERYBODY ANYONE THATS BEEN ON THE PEN KNOW YOU ARE TALKING OUT OF YOUR ASS AND YOU THINK THE CARNALES WILL TRUST SERVING THE FOOD TO JOE MORGAN AFTER YOU TALK TO A NORTENO COME ON HOMIE DONT TRY TO BULLSHIT THE CARNALES ONE THING STRAIGH BEING A FULL STRIPE SURENO IS A THING FOR LIFE YOU CAN BE 80 AND STILL EXCEPT TO DO WORK AND ACT LIKE A SURENO.
IF YOU ARE DOING BUSINESS IN A SURENO VARRIO YOU PAY TAXES TO THE OLDER HOMIES OR DIE.

Anonymous said...

Who Said TOPO was dead?

Anonymous said...

TOPO
But not being the custody of BOP means only two things, one he is out to court as a defendant the other is unspeakable.

Anonymous said...

You know that is right about hanging out with the enemy is 100% right now. But say 20 years ago in, what did he say ,Soledad South hell you could do as you pleased. It was a PC yard basicaly or some serious programers. I was in Central in 82 and I heard tale of some way out stuff.

Anonymous said...

WELL YOU KNOW EVERYBODY GETS ALONG IN THE PC YARD BECAUSE ONCE YOU GET TO THAT YARD YOU ARE NOBODY.

Anonymous said...

Not PC like New Folsom A Yard. But just first term guys and guys that never got a 115 in their life. With short time. You gotta start out some place.

Anonymous said...

I DIDNT KNOW CHAPO WAS COLLECTING TAXES IN THE STANTON ARE FROM WHAT I KNOW HE FUCK UP BIG TIME IN THE PEN I DONT THINIK HE HAS ANY JUICE ANYMORE.

Anonymous said...

Another thing, about the flack on what John said. When You are a trustie in LA county allot of times they pick guys that are programers to serve High Power. I am the cat that said I was the guy from Palm Hall and I have been there in the County. You talk to the trusties no matter what you think about them. You have to try and get things done.I remeber when they was using guys from over at HOJJ to serve any one that was in high power and seg.

Anonymous said...

That is what I was saying about Chapo. He messed up with that hit in the visita at CIMRC. It was a Gava but his brother was Baby Al Sherwin and it was off limits and OK'd only by Chuco. The guy Chuck stabbed Froggy from Stanton over some girl and drugs or what ever in CMod at OCJ most of the brothers gave a green light on Chuck, but the Visiting room was out of BOUNDS!! I remember the only time I could get anything from the line was at those visitas and after that hit it was all over.Everyone except Chapo and Chuco and maybe Veneno From 12th Pamona was UPSET!! needless to say you know what happend to Chuco and Veneno...... Can you say WitSec.

Anonymous said...

is this the incident they said sharky form second st got kill over because he was the shot caller for cmode.

Anonymous said...

that issue actualy involved the brother AL. I was in the first cell on the bottom in Cmod and there was a guy(wood) from long beach that was suposed to get got by the woods for some eMe in LA you know let the woods take care of there own. But it was eMe business. Anyway Sharky had developed a friendship with the guy who was to get hit. I can't remeber his name, Blond guy. Well Baby AL went at this guy and Sharky should of known that it was going down, but tried to help the guy. I guess the guy ripped off Tortuga from Black Angels.So needless to the a higher athority said "Sharky should not have interfeard."Why he did no one knows..... I guess sometimes friendship can get you into trouble..

Anonymous said...

sharky was a firme vato i knew him from cmode but you are right he should have not get invold with business where did he get kill at jail or when he got out ?

Anonymous said...

But I see where you got confused. One brother Chuck had a greenlight on him for stabbing froggy. But Chapo called a bad hit in teh visiting room. Sharky was killed for interfering with AL's hit for La eMe. Two Sherwins different car crash. Baby Al was one of the guys who caught that 187 with a gang inhancment in stanton with that NLR kid who faked the bail bond (Rizzo) and got out on a million dollar bail from OCJ a while back.

Anonymous said...

I heard Sharky got killed out side those border bandit apartments off of McFadden the Baltiers.. But that is the reason why.

Anonymous said...

WE ALL KNOW CHAPO FUCK UP SO WHY ARE THEY LETTING HIM COLLECT TAXES IN THE STANTON AREA?

Anonymous said...

the only thing I can think of as to why they are letting him collect is because he can, the other brothers will let him earn then when that times comes.Poof!! No more Chapo.

Anonymous said...

I KNOW HE STARTED COLLECTING AND REGULATING IN THE STANTON ARE WITH THE HELP OF DILLINGER WHO WORK FOR SHARKY IN OCJ AND FLACO FROM LIL STANTON I HAVE EVEN HEARD THEY HAVE PUT GREENLIGHT ON PEOPLE FOR NOT PAYING TAXES.

Anonymous said...

I just can't call it. But you have to remember that those guys are kind of big fish in a medium size pond. If the vato's from Stantone are giving money to someone that hasn't the athority to take it, well they will be in the hat also. Sharky is dead and I do not know Dilenger and Chapo's time is comming this you can be sure.

Anonymous said...

I WAS IN CMODE I REMEMBER A DILLINGER THAT WAS WORKING FOR SHARKY BUT I HEARD HE STARTED TO GO LOW AFTER SHARKY DIE I KNOW HE KNOWS ALOT OF GENTE HE'S LIKE 31 OR SOMETHING DILLINGER WAS COLLECTING TAXES FOR A WHILE I THINK SHARKY COSIGNED FOR HIM BUT I HAVEN HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT HIM I ONLY KNOW THERE WAS A SLIM FROM LIL STANTON TRYING TO COLLECT TAXES AND STARTED TO STABB THE PEOPLE THAT WOULDN PAY BUT I THINK HE IS GOING TO BE IN THE BOX FOR STABBING A HYNA.

Anonymous said...

I LIVE IN ANAHEIM CLOSE TO STANTON AND I HEARD OF THAT SLIM HE IS A BIG WANABE HE HAD NO AUTHORITY TO COLLECT TAXES I HEARD HE TRY TO BREAK INTO A HOUSE IN LIL STANTON AND GOT STABB REALLY BAD BY THE OWNERS.

Anonymous said...

hi my name is anthony i am 14 years and found this page on my bro computer i just wanted to know if anybody can help me.
whats the difference between a south sider and a sureno.
who can have the 13 tattoo
whats that 115 they call in here.
is it true that if you are in a gang and go to jail you are going to end up being from la eme.

Anonymous said...

I am not sure a 14 year old should even be asking this stuff. But a south sider is a sureno. A 115 is a write up for bad behavior in California Prisons.

Anonymous said...

YOU ARE PROBABLY RIGHT HOMIE BUT I THINK THEY SHOULD LEARN WHAT THEY GETING IN I KNEW A LIL HOMIE WHO WAS 17 GOT THE WORD SURENO AND THE 13 ON HIS CHEST AND WHEN HE HIT COUNTY GOT CHECK BIG TIME SO IN A WAY ITS BETTER TO KNOW BEFORE THEY DO ANYHTHING STUPID.

Anonymous said...

Look, for those of you that REALLY knew Benjamian "Topo" Peters, you should know that not only is he dead, he has been for a few years. And if you are talking about "Quate" Jimenez, one of "Alphy Sosa's" crime partners, he is also dead. In fact it was "Alphy" that killed him back in 1977. The person who said that he took "Cocoliso" his food when he was in "High power" is not telling the truth. Wil.E. Coyote

Anonymous said...

i knew that vato was a big fake probably a wanabe talking out of his ass you all what will happend if you try to steal from the carnales by not paying taxes and he is saying to stand up and not to pay i will want for him to said that in the carnales faces look at how bad the vatos from maravilla have it in the pen and what happend when 18 st wanted to do their own thing.

Anonymous said...

I just watched a video of a news program of the bust and Smilon is a kid I knew when I used to run around SA. He was a serious comedian. I remeber joking with him in OCJ, he was called up to go to Theo Lacy and back then it was like an Hohner farm. He was joking and fake crying and holdong on my leg saying " Please dont let them take me"

Anonymous said...

Quate from La Rana, I did not know TOPO was dead. Been out of the system for 10 years. I REALY KNEW THEM.Did he die in the feds? What like it is a big deal? If you did any amout of time in LA County High Power there is a good chance you knew most of those cats.

Anonymous said...

That last post was not from the dude that served food. It is the cat who talked about Palm Hall. And the Quate that I am talking about fell with John S.(AB)

Anonymous said...

PS From Palm Hall. That guy that said he served food to JM, well come on, who seves food to all those cats. Border line PC's or seriously cooperative inmates. So take it for what it is worth. He might of actualy said "Hi" to him... But as far a kicking it. Come on..... You know that aint gonna happen. Even when you land on that tier, if you are not well known you are suspect. More then one plant has burried people there. Even in Seg, wasnt that guy westly white the one in the late eighties on that tier? He rolled on everyone then rolled on the DA for forcing him to do so.

Anonymous said...

Wait a minute, didn't they always put JM in what is it, 7thousand and something? the place for OJ types and serious shot callers? that is not the same as what they called High Power for LA COunty.

Anonymous said...

yea, 2500 for regular PC and then there was the 4700 for white gang memebers.
PH

Anonymous said...

Wil.E. Coyote

You know that there are folks that are going to post stuff they just heard on the street or from rumor control at wayside or something. I like to think that most of these guys are just relaying what they think. I did my issue along time ago. I did it in LA County,OCJ and went straight to Palm Hall on my first tour. I did time in Soledad Central in the early eighties and then on to Folsom and then got out for a short time. Caught a hot one and beat it but got time for the robbery during the 187. Went to Tehachapi Max SHU. Then out to court and when I got back my shit had been sent to New Folsom ahead of me, minus my super two. Anyway caught a stabbing there. Sent to the hole then opened up Corcoran SHU.(Not the first bus but one of them) JM was the for a minute in the same section. Caught a few 155's more then the average bear. Sent to the Bay until my realease in early 90's that is my resume and I also did about a year and a half fighting an atempted muder in Palm Hall. I am just thinking that the average poster here has little idea. But you can learn something from any one. I was at Sana's house when I was 16 during a raid and still have paper work from the arrest.Me and some older wood.Palm Hall

Anonymous said...

sorry 115's not 155's

CONEX said...

IF I WAS LYING HOW DO I KNOW TONITO FRON SERENO, WHO WAS A CARNAL THAT NEVER DID TIEMPO BUT WAS MADE , WAS KILLED ON HUNTINTGON DRIVE BY GREEN LIGHT GANG MEMBERS FROM LOWELL GANG AND MARAVILLA GANGSTERS AND HIS HOMEBOYS BULLET NOW DOIING LIFE AND I FORGOT HIS OTHER HOMIE , BUT THEY WERE SPARED THERE LIFE AND WERE ALOWWED TO LIVE TO SPILL T6HERE GUTS .( A TRUE SURENO HUEVOS AND ALL )

CONEX said...

DOESNT ANYONE GO BACK TO THE CRAZY DAYS OF Y.A WHEN THIS SHIT DONT COUNT AND ANYBODY GAVE HEAD LIKE OJEDA FRON OC AND SPEEDY FORM GLOMA EAST LA HOW ABOUT SUM VATOS FROM MV, WE KNOW WHO THEY ARE AND BOXER FROM CHIQUESX3 HOW ABOUT KIWI FROM CANOGA PARK AND SANTOS FROM VNE AND JOEY FROM EAST LA AND JOKER FROM FTROOP WHAT ABOUT THE VATOS FROM PAULINE STREET IN FULLERTON WHO ASSOCIATED WITH MARAVILLA?

Anonymous said...

HEY JOHN,
YOUR VEIWS MAY DIFFER FROM OTHERS,AND THE CRAP YOU POST IS REALLY STUPID,SO DO YOURSELF A FAVOR,AND GO BACK TO YOUR FAVORITE
WEBSITE,YOU KNOW,HOJJ.COM!!!!!
AND POST YOUR SILLY COMMENTS OVER
THERE,IM SURE YOU'LL BE BLOGGING WITH PEOPLE THAT WILL UNDERSTAND
YOU!!!!.....YOU KNOW WHAT BIG JOHN,
YOU MUST BE A LOWELLBOY OR A GREENLIGHTER OF SOME SORT,CAUSE IF YOUR NOT,THEN YOUR A BIG WANNABE!!
HEY BIG JOHN!!!!DICKIES ARE BUY 1 GET 1 FREE AT EBAY HOMIE!!!TELL YOUR MAMA!!!!

Anonymous said...

I'm still amazed some of these posters talked about TOPO like he was alive. He died of cancer. Apparently some high ranking NF originals also died of cancer around the same time as Joe Morgan. Best to eat only comissary. What ever happened to Tupi Hernandez? You couldn't read anything about Topo without Tupi being mentioned as an adversary and Super chingon Eme member.

Anonymous said...

whoever wrote "Two Sherwins different car crash. Baby Al was one of the guys who caught that 187 with a gang inhancment in stanton with that NLR kid who faked the bail bond (Rizzo)" is wrong, it was rizzo, popeye and al and it was PEN1 business...and it wasn't a 187 but an attempted 'cause the guy lived, popeye took a deal for 15 at %85 and rizzo took it to the box where he lost and got something like 46 years and subsequently picked up another charge and is now in west valley

Anonymous said...

To: All "Sana" Ojeda fans, you can view a 1971 photo taken in South CC at the following link:

http://www.geocities.com/jiggy2000_us/emetimeline.html

NONE of these guys are, as the Timeline indicates, Original EME members.
They are, from left to right:
Standing: Richard "Richie" Jaramillo from Pomona, Manuel "Rocky" Luna (killed by EME for role in American Me), Adolph "Champ" Reynoso (EME's shot caller in federal prison system), Pedro "Sana" Ojeda, Ronnie Salazar (deceased), and Gilbert "Mongol" Silva (EME dropout).
Kneeling: Evarito "Blanco" Blanco (executed by EME in 1976-77), Refugio "Rufas" Pena (deceased), and two unidentified associates.
Although Sana is 63, he joined EME in the early-1970's and even Champ didn't join until the mid-1960's at San Quentin.

TijuanaJailer

Anonymous said...

TO JOHN YOU SOUND LIKE A BIG WANABE YOUR COMMENTS ARE FULL OF SHIT YOU DONT KNOW WHAT THE FUCK YOU TALKING ABOUT,HOPE YOU SLIP ONE DAY AND END UP IN THE PEN AND SEE IF YOU STILL THINK THE SAME WAY,YOU CAN TELL THE CARNALES ALL ABOUT HOW YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT.

Anonymous said...

TO THE VATO SAYING THAT CHAPO WAS COLLECTING TAXES IN STANTON,ITS A BIG LIE I LIVE ON FAIRCRES APARTMENT WHERE ALL THE DEALING IS NAME AND NO BODY WAS EVER CAME FOR TAXES LIL STANTON TRY TO AT ONE TIME BUT THEY HOT LOCK UP BEFORE THEY DID IT I DID SEE SHARKY ONE TIME OVER HERE BEFORE HE DIE BUT I DONT THINK IT WAS RELATED TO THAT.

Anonymous said...

I stand corrected on the PENI Rizzo thing. I thought that Baby Al called that because the guy told on some brand too. Hey by the way what happend to Scottish?

Anonymous said...

Scottish got got a few years ago, I think Pokey is or was on trial for that....he had the keys in OCJ last time I was there which was ?? about 2 years ago....

Anonymous said...

Tijuana Jailer
thanks for the picture and website identifying the players. My naive question is, how can someone be an EME dropout? And also, on a couple of other sites, I see guys referred to as ex-EME members (Victory Outreach stuff). I thought there was only one way out...Can anyone answer this question for me?

Anonymous said...

I have been to some victory outreach functions where like art blojos was speaking and some one pointed out a few gentlemen that walked in for a lilttle while and left big vatos that didnt look like they were there for church, anyways some told me every so often big homies from the calles come in to chech if the guy speaking was legit and I guess so they dont mess with them, this is all hear say but that is one instance I heard of

Anonymous said...

Response to Anonymous re:
(Tijuana Jailer
thanks for the picture and website identifying the players. My naive question is, how can someone be an EME dropout?)
Very good question and here goes: One of EME's initial rules is that "the only way out is through the cemetary". These individuals are bound by a death oath. Through the years members in good standing have been allowed to "gracefully retire" on the condition that they don't come back asking nosy questions. If they poke their noses where it doesn't belong, then they are dealt with.
Art Blajos, Conrad "Dano" Garcia, Edward "Kilroy" Roybal are great examples of ex-EME who were "left alone" to serve God. They became Christians are are/were actively involved in Victory Outreach and other Christian organizations.
Law Enforcement's million dollar question: Are these guys for real or are they using the church as a front? I have seen what God can do in the lives of many once-hardened convicts (Mundo is a good example) and I tend to believe that the change is genuine. But I'm not an expert in the lives of any of these individuals. The skeptics are still out there.
I for one will never question God's ability to transform !!

I hope this answers your question.

TijuanaJailer

Anonymous said...

(Very good question, here it goes...)
thanks, it does somewhat. wish I could convince a certain someone to quit trying to get out; I'd rather have him alive.

Anonymous said...

Hey wait a minute, I thought we alrady had this disscusion? There is NO Back door out. If given the opertunity to get VOR guys they would. Anyone read the transcripts of the case that CHUCO and The DA brought agianst La eMe? The only reason those guys are not dead is because there is no profit in killing them. They all have or had big followings with in their church and if they got wacked it would bring down to much heat. Plain and simple. THere is no way out,it is the Main rule. That is like saying you can say " I am not going to fallow that order, my sister needs a ride to Palmdale." if you are hip to the wording of the initation for La eMe then you know all the rules that are punishable by death. Have you ever heard of a free ride for a brand drop out? How many of them have been killed. Lets see Blue stabbed himself five times in the chest in Calipatria. Art Ruffo was on his way out when he was killed in the bay. Do you think La eMe is more laxed then the Brand? I think not!!
Palm Hall

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
(Hey wait a minute, I thought we alrady had this disscusion?)

It isn't as "etched in stone" as you may think, my friend .... transcripts or no transcripts. Many have "walked away" and a book can almost be written on: "The New Lives of ex-EME Members".
The Rule says, NO WAY, but they don't practice 100% what they preach. Either these so-called iron clad rules have "loopholes" or they don't.
If you are a carnal, then simply discuss with your carnales (especially the vets) this topic and they will tell you a)how many dudes were allowed to "walk away" (for whatever reason) and b)how many they have a line on and could take them out "IF" they so desired. They won't lie to you.
Of course this doen't include anyone who has "rolled" on them. They for sure would be history. If you are not a carnal, then trust me, there are many ex-EME on the streets and many of these have their locations well known to EME members who have allowed them to "gracefully" disappear. Their names don't need to be mentioned for their personal security but that's the long and short of it.
The stature of the carnal obviously has a lot to do with whether or not he gets a "pass" or not and it HAPPENS ALL THE TIME. Politicking can work for you or against you ... it just depends on who you are in the chain of command. Are you a peon or a "shot caller".
As to the person who writes:
"wish I could convince a certain someone to quit trying to get out; I'd rather have him alive".
If he's going to quit then there are three ways to quit: 1)you roll and go all the way, 2)you parole to another state and make your destination unknown and take your loved ones with you, or 3)you ask the EME for your walking papers and they "accomodate you".
Seriously, you certainly don't walk up to the brothers and ask, "Say Homes, I would like to put in for my retirement. Is there any severance pay?" THAT, you do not do for sure !!
If he wants to roll, there is an FBI Task Force as well as the Special Services Unit of the CDC that will gladly guarantee his safety. If he needs assistance getting over the psychological hurdle of "turning", that is also provided. Bottome Line: He will indeed live.

Tijuana Jailer

Anonymous said...

TO THE GUY THAT OWN THE EME CHAINLINE REGINO DE HARO WAS NOT FROM ONTARIO HE WAS FROM SANTA ANA HE WAS FIRST FROM LOGAN ST WHEN LOGAN WAS FTROOP THEN GOT JUMP IN INTO DOGTOWN HE HAD CONNECTIONS IN ONTARIO BUT WAS FROM SANTA ANA.

Anonymous said...

TijuanaJailer...thanks for the advice. I don't see any of those as a real possibility; no way he'll roll; he's got too much invested here to leave the state right now; and they basically said, no way to the third. Like I said, I wish he'd just quit pushing it and do what he needs to do. thanks for all the answers, though, I appreciate it.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
(TijuanaJailer...thanks for the advice.)

Part One: There once was an EME soldier who was highly respected by the name of Carlitos "PieFace" Ortega. One day his wife told him to leave the EME or lose his family. He approached Robert "Robot" Salas (PieFace had sponsored him into the EME) and asked for his "walking papers" from the organization. Robot, who was especially close to him, warned him to NEVER bring that topic up again. Sensing this "weakness", the EME in Folsom told Carlitos to accompany Armando "Mandi" Varela on a mission. He did his duty in the yard execution of Thomas "Elmo" Duran but his future was still "up in the air". Why? Because he had already shown weakness by asking to leave. Fortunately, his brain cells were minutes ahead of the EME. He "locked up" literally minutes before a hit team was to take him out. He lost his EME family but regained his wife and kids and lived. No one went after other members of his family (mother, sisters, etc.). Why? Because EME doesn't really do that and also for another important reason: the EME has family too. If Carlitos family is touched, who better knows where many of EME's family members live than Carlitos himself. ..... and, I might add, although he ran from a life he no longer desired, that doesn't mean that his trigger finger no longer functions. Everyone knows the game in this crazy world.
Part Two: There was another soldier named Alberto "Beto" Valles who likewise "requested" to be released from his commitment to La EME. In his case, Beto was not as popular as Carlitos, he was assured that all was cool and that he should spend some time thinking about what he was asking. While they reassured him, a "setup" was being put together. He was kept involved in EME activities and one night in La Puente, Beto was to meet another carnal on a drug-related movida and the carnal indeed was at the rendzevous .... with a sawed-off shotgun. Beto received his "walking papers" and died.
The WORST thing you can do as an EMERO is to ask to leave. You have already taken the first step in the wrong direction (by showing "weakness") and often times you cannot undo this. It's like being assigned to hit someone and developing a case of "cold feet". No matter what your future intentions are, you are history.
Like you, we don't want this guy to become a "Beto" and would rather that he look at the "Carlitos" story. No matter how much a person has "invested" into this scene, when you come to a crossroads in life where you are considering a choice: La EME or your family and loved ones, you've already shown weakness; you've already violated that one rule that states: La EME comes first, before your barrio and even before your own family. Sadly, those who chose to remain (sooo many do even in the face of impending death), also take many many victims with them: their family members are the silent victims!

My best to him. Something tells me he will make the correct decision. Keep me posted if "In The Hat" is still functioning (smile).

Tijuana Jailer

Sancha said...

TijuanaJailer...
I truly appreciate your insight and experience and will keep you up to date...guess that makes me Sancha to the "wife" of Eme, huh? Ya gotta laugh, or else you'd spend too much time in tears.

Anonymous said...

Everyone knows Sana is one of the most respected among gangsters. People talk a big game but they know not to cross him. If being a crimanal has a code of crimanal ethics Sana has followed them all. He is a leader and a good man to have on your side. He has never ratted in all his years in being in the game. People listen when he talks. He has survived being shot, stabbed, and incarseration. Not very many men can be him. Sana means the best and that is what he is as far as gaining respect. No man in Orange County has as much respect as hedoes.

juan said...

OK CHECK THIS OUT I HAVE A QUESTION IM A LIL YOUNGDTER FROM SANTA ANA
AND WELL MY OLDER HOMIES ALREADY TOLD ME THAT TO GET READY FOR WAR
THAT WORDS IN THE STREETS ARE
THAT WE ARE GONNA SATRT FIGHTING FOR TERRITORIOS IS THAT TRUE OR WHAT ?
IS EVERYTHING GONNA GET CRAZY?
AND THAT WE ARE GONNA START GANG BANGING IN OC COUNTY??

juan said...

yeap thats true
well there's rumors that the fxtroop youngsters and the fstroop older heads are going at it is that true?

Sharp Shooter said...

leason fucken stupid ass youngster we have always been fighting for fucken teritorio
and about us gang banging in the county jail that is not true
who ever told you that is stupid
also i've heard that the youngsters and the older fools from fxtroop are not going at it
they just been bumpin each other but is nothing mayor.
and about what you said about the koas in oc well it's gonna get crazy
just like back in early 90's
what they called the black years.
drive by'sand everything,well im sorry to tell you youngster but kids and womens are gonna end up dead
the crime will go up
and its gonna be k.o.a.s
im HAPPY I DONT KNOW ABOUT YOU
cuz we are gonna start gang banging like before
so hold ur balls tight and get ready cuz oc is going wild lol

Anonymous said...

well yeah sharp shooter is correct but i dont think its gonna be like before this youngsters are lames
twickers and everything nobody is puttin in work
theirs 2 many rats and that sucks
the youngsters now days are lames

Anonymous said...

have you people no clue shut up !!!! the government is reading every thing u write. my ouestion remains the same.......... WHOS WHO IN O.C ?????? I THINK EVERYONE IS IN OUESTION ...
I SAW WE ALL STOP DOING DOPE/CRIME THAT WOULD REALLY FUCK THE GOVERMENT!!!!!

Anonymous said...

I WILL LIKE TO KNOW WHY IS THERE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT RULES SOME PEOPLE BREAK THEM OVER AND OVER AND NOTHING HAPPENDS TO THEM LIKE A GUY NAME SLIM MARCOS RODRIGUEZ WHOS SAYS HE IS FROM LIL STANTON BUT THE VATOS FROM THAT VARRIO DENY HIM THAT VATO HASNT EVEN BEEN IN THE COUNTY FOR 30 DAYS AND HAS ALL KIND OF SURENOS TATS ON HIM,ALSO HE HAS BEEN COLLECTING TAXES IN THE STANTON AREA AND STABBING INOCENT BYSTANDERS IF THEY DONT PAY HIM THAT INCLUDES A HYNA WHO HE STABB IN FRONT OF ALL KINDS OF KIDS, HE IS ALSO KNOW TO THROW A RAT ON THE VATO WHO STABB HIM AFTER HE TRY TO KILL HIS LIL KID AND NOBODY HAS EVER CHECK THIS SO CALLED SURENO I AM SURE THE HOMIES UP STATE WILL LIKE TO HEAR ABOUT HIM.

Anonymous said...

FUCK THE GOVERMENT AND FUCK THAT SLIM BITCH IF LIL STANTON DONT TAKE CARE OF HIM THE CARNALES WILL HE CANNOT BE TAXING PEOPLE THATS STEALING FROM THE CARNALES UP STATE. FUCK THAT BUSTER.

Anonymous said...

I heard someone mention that Sana had trouble with FXTROOP but a house divided cannot stand so there was no problem because He is from FXTroop and Sana never worked for Art Romo, Big Homie was always Big Homie and Art got in becuase of Sana. The one who called all the shots while Sana was in the feds was "Big Sluggo" who is now in the system. I grew up with all these vatos and FXTROOP will always be involved in it some way or another.

Anonymous said...

FTROOP will always be in it, that is a fact. Lots of good vato's from that click. It is the biggest one in OC, and so it will always be what it is. I just thought Sana was from SN. I said that befor and this guy says " No he is not from Santa Anita" I ment the ckick Santa Nita not Santa Anita, is there still a gang called Santa Nita off of first and Jackson?

Anonymous said...

"Hey by the way what happend to Scottish?"

AL or Chuck Sherwin...PEN1 or NLR?
Anaheim or Long Beach PEN1 wtf
HBHC X skins. knew scott, AL & chuck in 1986 BOZ, ZIG, Scott Collins.

Back from IRAQ. Lookin up the woods.
seems some are 88, others got.

WORD

Anonymous said...

"ICH HATTE EINER KAMERADEN" 88
(I Once Had A Comerade-> SS)

Der Deutscher Allegmeine. FxTROPA.
5th & SULLIVAN, SANTA ANA, O.C.

-STUgII-Pzkpf S.A.

Anonymous said...

Collins is locked up in LANCASTER.

Anonymous said...

I DUNNO WHAT HAPPENED TO YOR COMRADE OR WHATEVER AND SCOTISH TOOK A POOL TABLE OR SUM SHIT AND HE WAS GOT. LOOK MOST WOODS TAKE CARE OF THER OWN BUSINES SO I DONT KNOW WHY YOU CRAP OUT THAT FOREN STUFFS LIKE WE KNOW IT CUZ THAT FUCKUP IN VISITAS MESSED UP ALOT OF HOMIES CHAPO AND CHUCO POPEYE BABY AL SHERWIN TAKES CARE OF AB BUSINESS TALK TO HIM

Anonymous said...

Some things are jaded. Personally, at one point or another in my life I have come across alot of the figures discussed here on this blog. Be it by chance, or just in passing, it is what it is. I'm beyond that level in my life. I'm not above it all, but I am older now, and I see things in a much different light. I grew up. I had to serve my country. No longer was the late night beers, party shit...pussy and rat-packing the people who FSU.

Instead I get to see "Hair & Flesh"
hanging off of what ONCE was a head.
Somebody's Son, Daughter, Grandson.

A Brown STAIN in the sand...

Makes NO differentiation of life or
death...THAT was STILL a HUMAN BEING

And NOw...it's NOT.

A Mother Cries, who cares?
A Sister whines---> Who cares?
The TARGET held an RPG....

POINTED AT OUR Bradley.....

Snuffed out by a 50cal."We LIT em' up" ---> THAT IS THE ENEMY, HOLMES!
Insurgent minds of another dimension
preaching the 7th century mentality.

FxTROOP, NLR, PEN1, no. Marines, AF
THESE are my brothers...white...Blk & LATINO homies.

People like "Baby Al" and "SHARKY"
don't play here. Sand ain't the way
here...POLITICS on the inside rule.

My world, has changed. Our life has
changed. But, death is always near.

Last time I saw "Baby Al" I was
amazed at his Tats. Last time I saw
Chuck...I was walking the line at
OCJ. Last time I saw scottish was in
the grave. It makes no sense to me.

We were surfers, one time. His mom
cried at his funeral, and THAT is
real time for me.

One time I saw an IRAQI mom crying,
and holding her child. I cried too.

Not because I cared...but because I
knew better. It won't stop. The damn
whole mess won't stop. I'm home...
for 18 weeks. Back I will go....but
damn sure of one thing..........

My prayers to St. Christopher....
the killing will one day stop.

Peter Ojeda means nothing to me.
I didn't even fuckin' know the guy.

But those who draw carga n2 venas..
are the ones that draw cards on...
peeps that I once knew. That's sad.

For what?

b'cuz he had a latina wife?
a white mix latina child?

B'cuz he was an Aryan?

His child has "BLue Eye's"?????

Like him?

What gives?

So what if he was NLR...

The shit was between him and tortuga

Settle it fist to cuffs. Don't bring
Albert into it. That ain't right.

The guy had people who loved him.
A daughter that will grow up without him. How right...is that?

I guess what I am saying...

b4 I "Light" somebody up w/50cal
FORCED representation of intent is
followed...

Not a .22 to the back of the head.

Look em' in the "face" and give em'
the "Respect" to fight back.

eMe business is straight up-
We understand that. Was there any
other way?

E-6 hoorah!

"We LIT em' up"---> and we regretted it. Life is too short. Back 2 IRAQ!

Cya there. Think about the moms...
think about the youngsters...

Shit's gotta stop somewhere.

Wood on woods...get's me angry.
Settle it another way. I say.

Anonymous said...

HEY HOLMES MAN THAT WORD MAKES SENCE
YOUNGTSERS NEED HUEVOS CARNAL THATS IT

Anonymous said...

www.stormfront.org

search NLR

this blog is for posts regarding eMe.

all others hit up storm oK peckerwood.

Anonymous said...

IS IT TRUE THAT THE HOMIES FROM W.MYRTLE ARE STAYING WITH THE KEYS AND WHATS GOING ON UIN THE COUNTY WHO IS RUNING IT.

Anonymous said...

DELHI BIG JOE OR VETERANO CROW VILLAGW

SNIPER ORANGE COUNYT said...

WHO IS IT BIG JOE OR CROW VILLAGE,THE WORD WAS IT WAS EITHER WEST MYRTLE O WEST TRECE, BIG JOE IS BURN WITH THE JURA ALLREADY,CROW VILLAGES VETERANOS ARE IN THE HAT,WHAT ABOUT SOME ONE NEW THAT IS NOT BURN.

Anonymous said...

My comment to everyone is-No one knows Pete Ojeda like I do. He is very gentle,caring,big hearted man.He loves children and family,alot of people love him for alot of reasons. He has been invloved in preaching to youngsters and there families. Pete Ojeda is the only person I know that hasn't had any officials or any civilians hurt or killed in orange county from any part of his back ground. He needs everybodies prayers .

Anonymous said...

My comment to everyone is-No one knows Pete Ojeda like I do. He is very gentle,caring,big hearted man.He loves children and family,alot of people love him for alot of reasons. He has been invloved in preaching to youngsters and there families. Pete Ojeda is the only person I know that hasn't had any officials or any civilians hurt or killed in orange county from any part of his back ground. He needs everybodies prayers .

Anonymous said...

FxTROOP and SANA are historical trends that have found the end. Personally, I see nothing but heartache from SANA.

You might find his "Comforting" ways as a "Peaceful" man....

But, mothers who have lost loved ones might tell you a different story.

Standing aside the grave, of the "Fallen" next to "MoM" as she reads from the good book..LooK...I CANNOT GIVE A SHIT about anybody. My friend is dead. I cannot hold FxTROOP responsible, nor SANA.

My OWN BRAND is responsible. By order of La eMe. Sure, SANA is a nice man. I'm sure he is a SAINT.

So, I guess we tell THAT--> to Mom..

Grieving for a "SON" that has passed

THAT IS A KODAK MOMENT.

Sure, SANA is a GREAT MAN.

Tell THAT to a grieving mother.

What's wierd, is I used to watch a comedy called "FTROOP" when I was young....

I NEVER believed it could befall a friend. How "Ironic" is THAT?

5th St. S.A. ---> O.C.

StuG II

Anonymous said...

You known what surprises me is that people act like pete had control of other peoples actions.I do grieve with the mothers don't get me wrong-But every has to act on the there own actions. Don't forget he had a gang truce-not a gang war. We all need prayers.

Anonymous said...

"WE ALL NEED PRAYERS"

Amen, to that.

I sincerely believe that WE ALL are responsible for "Our Actions"....and here I must admit, I do not fully understand the circumstances surrounding scottish death.

I know this thread is "Old Hat" so, having said that I will deduce to the mere fact that scottish met his untimely fate as a DIRECT result of HIS actions.

Why it happened, is anybody's best guess...but it was at the hands of his own brand. That drives me to anger. Well, I'm enjoying my final days of R&R and rotate back to duty.

MINUS----> one friend. Scottish.

StuG II

Anonymous said...

SANA A SAINT LOL TELL THAT TO THE FAMILIAS OF ALL THE PEOPLE HE GOT KILL AS A SHOT CALLER A GAMG TRUCE THATS BULLSHIT THAT GANG TRUCE HAS TO STOP GANGS FROM SHOOTING DOWN FTROOP WHEN FTROOP WAS LOSING POWER,AND IT WAS ART ROMOS IDEA,NOT SANA,HE MIGHT HAVE BEEN A GOOD MEN DEEP DEEP INSIDE BUT THE DAMAGE HE DID WILL NEVER GO AWAY.

Anonymous said...

Sana es responsable de las matansas de mucha gente. Si el ordeno esas matansas por BABY AL SHERWIN y su hermano CHUCK entonses todo esto es pura mierda. LA EME y SERENO ordenan "hits" para tortuga y los Black Angels. SHARKY tambien hacen que lo maten porque LA EME ordena "hits" por parte de los NAZI LOWRIDERS y ARYAN BROTHERHOOD. Todo esto es pura mierda. Los negocios del SERENO deben ser hechos por LA EME y FxTROOP y no por NLR o ARYAN BROTHERHOOD.

LOS QUE MATAN VAN AL INFIERNO!!!!

Anonymous said...

all you cats got the game twisyed.yo soy de la tropa (FXTROOP)WERE DO YOU CATS GET YOUR INFO C.D.C. FILES? ALL YOU CATS THAT CLAIM TO BE SURENOS AND SPEAKING OF "S",CHAPS,TUDO(A.ROMO),GABBS,AND A FEW OTHER OF THE FELLAS ARE WRONG!!NOW I SEE HOW THE SHIP GETS SUNK.IM SURE THE CAMARADAS WOULDNT LIKE,OR WOULD LIKE TO KNOW!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

YOU GUYS ARE A BUNCH OF COMADRES SPEAKING OF THINGS YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT IM GOING TO SCHOOL YOU ON ALITTLE SAYING, HEAR NO EVIL SPEAK NO EVIL AND SEE NO EVIL.

Anonymous said...

ALL I GOT TO SAY IS FUCK THE REST

Anonymous said...

I JUST CAME INTO THIS SIGHT AND ALL I READ IS A BUNCH OF BULLSHIT WRITTEN BY SOME IGNORANT ASS PEOPLE IN MY HEART THIS SIGHT SHOULD NOT EXIST THE ONLY TRUE SURENO HERE JUST LOGGED OFF

Anonymous said...

ALL YOU M/F'S NEED TO GET OFF PINCHI NOVELEROS IF YOU DONT LIKE IT YO MAMA BITCH

CHONCHIS said...

A I GOT A HOT ASS WILA LAST NIGHT WHEN I OPENED YOUR MAMAS PUSSY SANA JUMPED OUT :)

MICLO said...

BLOOD IN BLOOD OUT LA ONDA POR VIDA

Anonymous said...

That last exchange of words is vague, but seriously to the point. FxTropa and HOW it relates to SANA is clear.

How this ties into baby al sherwin, the aryan brotherhood or even nazi low riders is pretty vague. It's true that surenos are backed by SANA.

Others speak of family members got by AB or NLR. One can be certain that someone connected to SANA was close to the action. To what degree is anybody's best guess.

One thing I have noticed is the level of intensity when spanish bloggers hit the points.

Pretty rare.

Anonymous said...

HEY STUPID MOTYHER FUCKERS IM FROM FXTROOP AND WELL I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU BITCHES FUCKEN RATS KNOW THAT U GUYS ARE FUCKIN UP BY TALKING ALL THAT NON SENCE ON THIS WEB SITES ARE YOU FOOLS STUPID OR WHAT EVERYTHING I READ IS NOT TRUE U GUYS GOT EVERYTHING TWISTED STUPID ASSES LET THE HURAS KNOW EVERYTHING PENDEJOS

Anonymous said...

yo soy de la tropa, carnal

5th st. carnalgas, we fear nothing.
FxTropa took many hits from the man
and still we hold our head high. so
dont listen brother becuz we know the
senor ojeda will take it to the box and yesterday will pass.

grizzly de la tropa SANTA ANA FxTROOP OC

Anonymous said...

yo soy de la tropa, carnal

5th st. carnalgas, we fear nothing.
FxTropa took many hits from the man
and still we hold our head high. so
dont listen brother becuz we know the
senor ojeda will take it to the box and yesterday will pass.

grizzly de la tropa SANTA ANA FxTROOP OC

Anonymous said...

DELHI IN THE MIX IN SANTA ANA CARNAL

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FLACA said...

you fucken punk ass rat, sniches dont know shit you are straight dry snitching you think that the feds arent looking on this sight you got to be some dumb asses

IM OUT TROOPER STYLE SAYING FUCK THE REST!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

IM ZAHLOSSEN ZUM SCHLACTEN EICHENLAUSS
FUR MIT ABZEICHEN SUR VON FxTROPA UND EINER KAMERADEN AUF ALICE BAKER UND SURENO FREUER ZU NLR/DIRTY WHITE BOYAS
DU BIST EINER NACHT KLASSEN. SEIG HEIL

WHITE POWER/BROWN PRIDE.

ALL KNUCKLEDRAGGERS MUST FUCKING DIE.

Anonymous said...

AH SHIT! LIKE THAT HOMIE! YEA

Anonymous said...

TO EVERY ONE ON THE SITE KEEP IT REAL JUST PLAY IT BY EAR AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS NEXT EITHER WAY NO ONE WINS CAUSE EVERYONE GET TAXS

Anonymous said...

Warum sind Sie schreibend auf Deutsch? Sie denken Ihr das einzige, das deutsch spricht, oder was? Sie denken Ihr intelligentes? Sie denken, daß Sie wissen, aber Sie nicht wissen.

Anonymous said...

Was denken Sie an das? Stummer Esel

Anonymous said...

Die Partei, die in diesen Posten verwickelt worden ist, wurde von weißen Reihenfolgen wegen mexikanischer Maffia ermordet. Sie wissen, was diese germanische Beschreibung bedeutet, täuschen nicht sich sonst. Schottisch wurde von alic Bäcker Zweigorganisationen und peni Tod Gruppen ermordet.

We had RESPECT for "Baby AL" before.

No longer. They are now the enemy.

Wir Haben Zeit, Wir Haben Zeit!

Stay out of it.

Anonymous said...

Dumb Donkey?> u----> SCHWEINHUND.

Anonymous said...

No exceptions are made for dogs.
Swine, dogs, and vermin are made.

Hethans, are no better than swine.

We make NO EXCEPTIONS for either.

Betrayal, is simply just that.

We have time. No threats, promise.

A day will come. Rest assured is that.

Anonymous said...

SCOTTISH RIP SO IT IS WAS AND HAS BEEN
BETWEEN TORTUGA AND EME AND THE BRAND.
IT IS WHAT IT IS AND ITS DONE NOW.

Anonymous said...

Ist es wirklich?

Anonymous said...

WHAT ABOUT DAVID YORBA FROM FTROOP. I SEEN HIM HAVE PROBLEMS IN LANCASTER A FEW YEARS AGO. BUT I THINK HE'S BACK IN THE MIX.

AND MIKE SALINAS???

AND JOE FROM ALLEY BOYS??

I KNOW GERONIMO FROM WEST 13 AND SOME OLDER CAT FROM MIDWAY HAVE BEEN MAKING A PLAY FOR THE LLAVES IN THE COUNTY AD SEG. BOTH RECENTLY GOT THEIR BLESSINGS.

Anonymous said...

Dave was always too smart to stay outta the mix for too long. Lancaster is overcrowded place. Yorba, hhmm..

Long time, since that name kicked out.

Anonymous said...

yeah i was there at that time the vato just got caught up

Anonymous said...

dum ass mutha fuckers! you put all this shit up on this sites while your all tweeked out and then ask, How did the feds or placa now! They have penche computers too!
Here is FOUR fuckin' things to remember
1.SEE NO EVIL!
2.HEAR NO EVIL!
3.SPEAK NO EVIL!
4.TYPE NO EVIL!!(NEW ONE)
PENCHE RATAS,LEARN THIS,AND REPEAT IT TO YOUR SELF EVERY DAY!!!

Anonymous said...

1. SIEHT KEIN ÜBEL!
2. HÖRT KEIN ÜBEL!
3. SPRICHT KEIN ÜBEL!
4. TIPPT KEIN ÜBEL!

Ein Prosst vier bitburg Pils lasse!

Seig Heil!

Anonymous said...

dumb ass mutherfucker

the placas know a lot more than gets put on this board dumbass.

They got fools like you that tell them everything they need to know.

Anonymous said...

Werke is soft candy, or hard candy.

A down FxTROOPER knows that carnal.
Placas drive the digit harder down the line up the ladder...

"Sie haben Narren wie Sie erhalten, der erzählt ihnen alles sie wissen müssen."

You should remember that carnal.

Blackhand

Anonymous said...

zig fuckin cool it, now. it's over. I was released December 17 nobody had paperwork on scottish that iknow of.

this typewriting bullshit about it is fucking wrong. you fellas ned to shutdown this right fucking now.

shanrock

Anonymous said...

HEY SHAN! MAN! GEEZ ITS YOU! PDS DOWN BROS WONDERIN WTF? WRE IN LONG BEACH SO ATALNTIC NEAR PIKE, BACK TO 63RD.
CALL TILLMAN, OR ZIG. WHITE POWER!

Anonymous said...

ZIGGY IS IN HUNTINGTON BEACH/SURFSIDE OR YORKTOWN/BEACH BLVD CROSS. ADAMS.

Anonymous said...

OK MOTHA FUCKERS WHY THE FUCK ARE U FUCKEN
TYPING SHIT IN THE STUPID COMPUTER ALL TWICKED OUT STUPID ASSES
I READ ALL THIS STUPID SHIT AND I CANT BELIVE U STUPID IGNORANT STUPID PEOPLE THAT KNOW NOTHING
BUT BULLSHIT CUZ ALL I READ WAS BULLSHIT
STUPID FUCKS
THIS IS THE SAME SHIT ASS TROWING RAT
FUCKEN RATAS
ALL U PUSSY RAT MOTHA FUCKERS
MAKING ORANGE COUNTY LOOK BAD
FUCKEN COMADRES
ALL U BITCHES ARE FUCKEN LAMES
FUCKEN RATS
U BITCHES THAT SAY THAT U BEEN TO THE PINTA U GUYS WHERE PROBABLY PC UP
LOL
FUCKEN RATS

Anonymous said...

What about FATTY from PENI
or SOLDIER from NLR and remember that fool BABY RON form VENICE or POISON from V13.

where these fools at---this Big turtle from the big ANAHEIM

Anonymous said...

Dunno bout FATTY from PENI (He must be ANA click PENI) but SOLDIER is on our side and last I heard he was in the shu.

Anonymous said...

I WAS WITH SOLDIER IN CHINO, SO FUCK THE REST, BATO IS FIRME GENTE. WE PASSED KITES, UNTIL THEY RUSHED OUR PAD. THAT CAT IS DOWN HOLMES.

Anonymous said...

BIG TURTLE "ANAHEIM"

hey check it out that dude thats in here wil e. coyote hes a straight snitch--everyone be thrucha on that dude, he's from O.C. did some skandelous shit in Ahm and the homies have been lookin for him ever sense. Thats a trip that hes in here runnin his mouth!

Hey Wil E.---payback a mutherfucker

Anonymous said...

This Big Turtle again

I got a lot of respect for this forum, lot of good things happenin'

I'll keep all the homies from O.C. in my prayers--

Whats the time in Anaheim
seven fourteen, where the homies got the cortez an the ladies got the low jeans!

Anonymous said...

"Eisen in der Diät findet ein den Jäger, das der Jäger gejagt wird"

Be Careful Of What You Wish For.
Your Wish Might Just Be Answered.
Value Life, Family, and Loved Ones.

The Hunter, Becomes The Hunted.
Read it. Know it. Live it. Learn it.
"Let the Fingers Do The Walking"
"Reach out and TOUCH Someone"

There is "IRON" in your Diet.

NO EXCEPTIONS. None.

Anonymous said...

all the motherfucker in o.c are straight bithches from brown to black to white to yellow, get some balls and bring your wannabe O.C shit to corona mother fucker.

This LIL Phil signin off--fuck the rest crwntown on the map

Anonymous said...

RIGHT NOW ITS MUSCLEHEAD...HES THE ONLY ONE OUT...

THE HOMIES FROM WEST13, MIDWAY CITY AND CROW VILLAGE ARE NOT HIGH ENUFF ON THE LADDER. GABBY IS A LIFER AND GERONIMO IS JUST A SOLDADO. OTHERS WHO ARE OUT RIGHT NOW ARE JUST ASSOCIATED. MUSCLEHEAD IS THE ONLY ONE ON THE OUTS WHO IS A CARNAL.

Anonymous said...

lil phil apologizing to the homies im just a punk an i know it now----please forgive me

Anonymous said...

I'm sure glad the internet was'nt popping like this when I was putting in my time in the streets, or all the homies would be torcido! As for Sanas, just for the record, He's from BARRIO ARTESIA SANTANA, which is now ARTESIA FXTROOP, and for those that are worried, dont worry, Feds already know this. Happy hunting youngsters!

ARTA*FTR*13

Anonymous said...

get down get down the wodds are all around fuckin niggers up and beatin surenos down

for real--lil phil back in the blog what you wanna do brown bitches

Anonymous said...

this big turtle back on the scene send my respect to all the o.c homies

blood and respect

Anonymous said...

WHATS UP ALL YOU SURENO LOCOS OVER IN CALIFAS.. I WANT TO SAY KEEP YOUR HEAD UP HOMIES.. TO ALL THOSE RATS WHO LOOK FOR LAST RESORTS GIVING UP THE PEOPLE WE ARE FUCKEN PUNKS YOUR FAMILYS BETTER WATCH OUT ... FOR YOU WHO DONT KNOW WHATS UP THE YNOSTROZA'S DONT FUCK AROUND QUE-VO TO MY PRIMO PUTTIN IT DOWN FOR FLORENCIA... AND TO ALL THE REST...

Anonymous said...

N-E ways, IM TIRED OF ALL THESE FAKE AS PUNK ASS SURENOS THE TRY TO USE THE RAZA AS A CLAIM TO FAME. FIRST OFF REALIZE THAT IT AIN'T SHIT, YOU AINT SHIT, AND YOUR THE COLOR OF SHIT! SPEAK ON IT ALL THE PROUD PECKERWOODS--LET THESE BEENERS KNOW WHAT TIME IT REALLY IS

OUT 1 TIME--LIL PHIL

Anonymous said...

All I wanna know is what dumbass motherfucker let these LMP rejects in?
LMP was rolling it up back in the day and most of them two bit half ass lazy drug induced motherfuckers were leva.

Fuckin hesh wannabe motherfuckers play up like the hero poke for puttin the iron in his bros head, what the fuck?

Im sure when the brothers see this rat snitch bullshit dropping names the shits gonna hit the fan and any motherfuckers standing will know what the fuck is up. that socal car crash peni fucks too. someone let in too many unreliable dry snitch LMP lazy ass druggy motherfuckin punks.

at last check those motherfuckers were rolling it up cause they owed. You motherfuckers talking up the shit dropping names will get you hurt. who the fuck let LMP in???

huh?????????????????????????

Anonymous said...

KNOW THIS...NAME DROPPERS DONT KNOW ANYBODY AND ALL OF YOU ON THIS SITE ARE SUSPECT...ENOUGH SAID...I'M GONE

GONSAVLO said...

LYING FUCKING COMEMIERDAS. VATOS CULONES. HABLANDO BABOSADAS COMO LOS MARICAS. PINCHES COMADRES DE LAVADERO. CULONES.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone remember back in the 70's and early 80's,when the Chino Sinners were busters/

Anonymous said...

orale a las eMe carnales,

hay mucha gente que esta hablando pura mierda. Quien es pokey? es un down sureno carnal o un punk gabacho? Los carnales estan cansados de toda las mentiras sobre este tipo y sobre quien es! Alguien aqui puede decirme donde esta este tipo. brothers, a las Brand gente, de donde es pokey la mirada punk rock ese, o la habra que no?

Anonymous said...

Pokey punk ass wannabe pen1 calls it,

when is it possible for a guy to kill his brother? real punk ass
How must it feel? pokey poker joker brand flunky punk ass knows.
a day too soon is not soon enough and hell can freeze over and
that motherfucker will get got. what goes around comes around eh poke?
suppose ranking up forgot you ranking out and rolling it up eh poke?
a real punks punk eh poke? you pile of shit. human debris. some here
play it up. some here know whats up. nobody rides for free.

my name is pokey. i am a punk ass motherfucker that loves gettin fucked in the ass.
i wanted to be authenticated member of the brand but they said my punk ass wasn't
good enough to ride with. i guess i have to ride out without my pride since i sold
out and fucked my brother. pokey the punk ass piece of shit i am and will always be.
i guess even hell has forgotten me. my life sucks and i love to kill my friends.
signed,
pokey the poked fag punk that kills my friends and rides for free and owes everyone.
I guess my friends really hate me now since i fucked my brother and shot him in the head.

Anonymous said...

just wanted to know if anyone remembered chico from myrtle

Anonymous said...

THIS COMMENTS FOR THE HOMIE WHO WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT TUPI HERNANDEZ. I LIVE OUT IN ONTERIO OFF SUNKIST AND BEEN BANGIN BLACK ANGELES SINCE THE AGE OF 13. I'M 21 NOW AND TO KEEP IT SHORT HOLMES WORD HAS IT THERES A GREEN LIGHT AND THERES PRESSURE ON OUR VARIO. HE MADE BAD MOVES. LOOK AT IT THIS WAY A... YOUR CONFINED IN A CELL FOR A GOOD 23 HOURS A DAY WITH NO ONE TO TALK TO AND YOU HAVE TO DO THIS THE REST OF YOUR LIFE. YOU START LOSING YOUR INSANITY AND CAN'T THINK RIGHT AND YOU MAKE BAD DECISIONS. SHIT THEY EVEN LET ANIMALS HAVE A FRIEND BEHIND A CAGE. YOU GET WHAT I'M SAYING HOLMES? IT BREAKS YOU DOWN.

Anonymous said...

younall just need to shut the fuck up and grow-up... stop playing "godfather movies" hahaha

Anonymous said...

I dont really know but if he said that about him then you know he was what he said.And if that other guy was right about the one guy then he was the the man. I think I saw him at Taco Bell getting a taco 10 pack and there is no way he could eat all 10 him self so that only means that that one guy and that other one guy were really hungry

Anonymous said...

IAM AN EX-INVESTIGATER I COULD TELL YOU THE REAL STORY ABOUT PETER 'SANA' OJEDA BUST. HOW THE SANTA ANA G/U AND F.B.I ALONG W/THE CI TOOK DOWN FTROOP & ALLEY BOYS DOWN.

Anonymous said...

hey does anyone know Bobby from La Mirada Punks LMP they call him Pirate? he's probably around 34 years old now. i'm an old friend trying to make contact. if someone knows him, please reply here.

Anonymous said...

wasup wit the two fractions in la eme? is this the cause for the problems between IE and LA?

Anonymous said...

YOU VATOS SHOULD NOT BE TALKING ABOUT THIS STUFF ON THE NET OR ANYWHERE ELSE.YOU GUYS ARE EXPOSING GAME AND EVENTULLY IT WILL CATCH UP TO YOU.SO IF I WERE YOU I KEEP MY MOUTH SHUT .SOME OF YOU OLDER VATOS TALKING ABOUT THE HOMIES ARE PROBABLY WANTED AND YOU YOUNGER KIDS DONT KNOW WHAT TIME IT IS.DONT MAKE OUR COUNTY LOOK BAD YOUGSTERS FIND SOMETHING ELSE TO DO.

Anonymous said...

if iam not mistaking conex is conejo art blajos

Anonymous said...

I know sharky from Redlands.

Anonymous said...

I grew up in Santa Ana and pretty much got along with everybody but I can't stand those racist white fuckers I'm white but grew up with Mexicans yes I'm proud of my race but I will always be attracked to gangsters..I get BS at times cause my last name is Lopez but oh well they came kiss my ass...lol

Anonymous said...


Anonymous said...

I heard that sana wanted to change or did change fxtropa rag color to pink

Anonymous said...

Look man I'm an OG from second street FxT Sana lived with his mother and 3 brothers freedie eddie and tommy so get it right .And before it gets out of hand he never moved because he had problems with the homies it got to hot,bottom line.I'm 67 and I only know of a handful that are still living from the beginning of FxT So stop guessing and say what you know.

Anonymous said...

what about monster from 17th street what's the deal with him?