Saturday, October 01, 2005

FAILURE OF THE VICTIM SELECTION PROCESS
Four individuals tried to carjack a vehicle early Friday morning (Sept. 31) but got a big surprise. According to the LA Times, the attempt carjacking happened on the corner of Corbin and Vanowen, a quiet neighborhood way out there in the West SF Valley. Just FYI, this is CPA territory, a neighborhood that has a long, long history in the area but likes to lay low and stay out of politics.

When one of the carjackers pulled a gun on the guys inside the vehicle, one or more of the occupants fired back with their own straps. Turns out the men in the car were FBI agents doing a surveillance detail. The result was one dead carjacker and three in custody. Ooops! It's unknown at this time if the four car boosters are associated with the neighborhood or just some freelancers.

Here's a question for you LEOs out there to help fill in my trivia database. When something like this happens, does it automatically become a Federal beef or does local law enforcement take over? Both agencies obviously have jurisdiction so what's the procedure here? Just curious.

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Anonymous said...

Hey Tijuana Jailer, here's another quiz. Which carnal just died this passed week?

PS: You are still a little off on the Moreno brothers info.

Anonymous said...

anytime a fed is involved it is a fed time beef wally just in case you didnt know..

Anonymous said...

Car jacking is a federal crime now anyways, so even if the victims were not feds, it's still a fed crime.

StillNoScript said...

Would CPA mean Canoga Park? Man, when you think CP, you think "Valley Girl".

No disrespect to anyone from CPA. I'm merely just making a joke about pop culture and the image of L.A. they try to give us through the tube.

On T.V., it's Nicolas Cage yelling at a girl's window.

In real life, Ventura Blvd. at night can be as dangerous as anywhere.

Gotta watch your back in the City of Angels. With the exception of a few secluded, wealthy communities; It's a gang member's world, and the rest of us are just breathing in it.

However, in CPA territory, I think it's going to be the FBI's world for a couple of years, if you know what I'm saying. Talk about a neighborhood being hot. Whoah.

Anonymous said...

it seems that carnales (dont mean the biker club) are dying each month. there is one in Northern Cal (Concorn) that died just last month. Hey TJ! can you at least keep us inform of the Obituraries, since you can give any new news.

con respeto,
Wolf

Anonymous said...

Hey TJ! can you at least keep us inform of the Obituraries, since you can give any new news.

con respeto,
Wolf

So what prevents you from gracing us with your "obituary knowledge". Sounds like you are biting at the bit to let us know whazzzup??

Roadrunner

Anonymous said...

So what prevents you from gracing us with your "obituary knowledge". Sounds like you are biting at the bit to let us know whazzzup??

Roadrunner:

I can tell we are definitely not from the same "area."
When I hear something is a "rumor", but when LE knows it, its common knowledge.

Me entiendes ese?

wolf

Anonymous said...

I can tell we are definitely not from the same "area."

As you say, I believe we are definitely not from the same "area". In fact, I haven't a clue what you are talking about.

You are asking t/jailer to give us all an obit that you seem to know but yet you don't share this information with the blog???

Is this a game we're playing or do we get to "escuchar" your hot info. Or, is this "secret shit"?
If it's secret stuff, why would you ask t/jailer to reveal something that you seem afraid to do?

"Juegitos de chavalito"

Roadrunner

Anonymous said...

come on man who else is going to investigate the feds but the feds, looks like those guys diung the job werent ready for an old style shot out

Anonymous said...

You guessed it. It's a game we are playing.

Anonymous said...

"Juegitos de chavalito"

Roadrunner

Yo, Roadrunner, there are plenty of kids on the Internet so don't be surprised. They got nothing better to do.

Anonymous said...

I will kill Roadrunner with some ACME TNT!

Wil. E. Coyote

Anonymous said...

car jacking is a federal crime with a fire arm is automatic 25 years by a gangmember automatic 25 to life assulting a federal agent in the process KISS YOUR ASS GOODBYE STUPID!

Anonymous said...

(I will kill Roadrunner with some ACME TNT!

Wil. E. Coyote)

I think he runs too fast for us, Uncle "M" .... He's also afraid of chickens.

Anonymous said...

(He's also afraid of chickens)

I've got a photograph of RR on top of a vehicle trembling at the sight of a "funky chicken". Bring out the TNT and let's blow his chicken coup !

Anonymous said...

Looks like somebody got very silent all of a sudden. Keep going for people's kneecaps, buddy and watch your closet get emptied on National T.V.

Whoooooooosh

TijuanaJailer said...

(Hey Tijuana Jailer, here's another quiz. Which carnal just died this passed week?)

Good to be back, guys. There was indeed a LE "rumor" of an EME old timer dying in Victorville or something to that effect. His name was/is Robert (Black Bobby) Ramirez.

The only EME "old timer" by that exact name is Robert "Black Bobby" Ramirez. He entered the Federal Prison System in the late-1970's and is still comfortably incarcerated there.

On November 11, 1978, EME members "Black Bobby" (Canta Ranas), Adolph "Champ" Reynoso (Hazard), and William "Willie Bobo" Gouveia (Redondo Beach)
were "arrested" at the Lompoc Federal Correctional Institution for the brutal execution of a fellow carnal named Tomas "Japo" Trejo (East Side Clover).

Each was convicted in March-1981 and given parole dates into the mid-2020's !! That means they are "eligible" for parole in about twenty more years. A lot of calendars to cross out!

I noticed that Roadrunner, Wolf and a few others had some exchanges and my suggestion is that we all "chill out". You all sound like well informed and good guys.

First of all, my information does not need defending. It is what it is and, as a human being, I'm subject to err at any time. If I do, I am more than willing to correct my error and move on.

I surely don't have "all the answers" and many of us have their versions to contribute, I'm sure.

My information is limited to my exposure to mostly "older" EME activities and you young bucks can handle the current stuff. I love to hear the latest scoops from the guys who are working hard to pursue the bad guys.

If investigations are ongoing, or if lives can be endangered, you can bet that it will NOT be gotten into by most (if not all) of us in the LE community.

Peace ...........

Tijuana Jailer

Anonymous said...

Hey Tijuana Jailer, this is the mysterious anonymous that gives you the little quizes now and then. Just having a little bit of fun and making sure that I don't say anything that you don't already know. I don't know who those other vatos are who are arguing back and forth. I think that it's pretty harmless to discuss guys who are either dead or washed up. You hit the nail on the head as far as "Black Bob" from C/R except I heard that it's real. Like you said, he had been in the Feds forever and he was one of a handfull of "Big Homies" serving time at the new "USP Victorville". It must be one hell of a rumor, because everyone thinks there's gonna be a funeral. I guess time will tell. Do you think the news crews will show up like they did for Topo's funeral?

TijuanaJailer said...

Hello Quizzer (and, by the way, keep them coming .... they're fun -especially when you get into the older days).

That is quite a lonely road to hoe, isn't it? Your carnales embrace you when you're kicking and abandon you when you're gone. I suppose you're useless when you check out to The Big Homie in the Sky.

Topo became very unpopular at the end of his "criminal career" and the paparrazi would have been very disappointed at his funeral.

Something tells me that today's EME funerals might, depending on how they feel at the time, not be what we would maybe want them to be.

For example, maybe the carnales fear identification (or arrest) at these events these days. They aren't totally stupid and I would think that any wanted brother would surely stay away.

The last big EME funeral that was chronicled big time with several photographs was the 1976 funeral of Jesus "Chuy" Fraijo (Norwalk) who died of a heroin o.d. in Nor Cal. It was a Who's Who of EME heavy hitters. There's a photo of the players in Mundo's just-released CD.

As for active members and associates - maybe a funeral gathering (or lack of the same) tells us something about their standing with their boys at the end. But, then it's too late, right?

Thanks for your enlightenment, Quizzer. Also, it should be extremely easy to confirm with one phone call. At present, I'm too busy with the rest of my "vida loca" to know where all the players - old or new - are taking up residence.

In "Black Bobby's" case, it surely looks then like he must've got an early parole.

(PS: You are still a little off on the Moreno brothers info.)

There is no "little off". You said I kept getting the wrong name for "Pelon". His name is/was Eddie "Pelon" Moreno and ALL the old vatos looked up to him no less than they admired "Cheyenne" Cadena.

In the criminal mentality, his brothers - younger and older - also looked up to him.

Peace .......

Tijuana Jailer

Anonymous said...

Speaking of victims, last night on a show called Kitchen Confidential ( I was too stoned to look for the remote or change the channel manually) this Chef was being bullied by a cholo. The vato had genuine tatoos. On his shoulder he had a vato with a sombrero and AMV through the brim. He had a large M on one shoulder and a large V on his other shoulder. Then he had the same thing on his backarms. The vato was a real banger at one time. The other chef's had to end up buying the vato who was being bullied from this vato because he was a dishawsher in the show and they didn't want a chef being owned by a dishwasher. it was a trip to see how the chefs looked down on the dishwashers, even ones from Maravilla.

Anonymous said...

Thats now how it was at all. The young chef guy was being hazed by all the other senior chefs and they told him he was low man on the totem pole, and shit rolls down hill. So he thought who was lower on the totem pole than him that he could pick on. He tried the cholo dishwasher and realized this was a gangster and the senior chefs basically looked at him like "you fucked up now" and told him that was the wrong totem pole to pick on.

Anonymous said...

He tried the cholo dishwasher and realized this was a gangster and the senior chefs basically looked at him like "you fucked up now" and told him that was the wrong totem pole to pick on.
THEY ENDED UP BUYING HIM FROM THE DISHWASHER BECAUSE THEY WERE COOL WITH HIM BEING THEIR BITCH ( EXACT WORDS) BECAUSE THEY WERE CHEFS, BUT WERENT COOL WITH THE YOUNG CHEF BEING A DISHWASHERS BITCH! (EXACT WORDS AGAIN)

Anonymous said...

ANYWAYS, CONEX DO YOU KNOW THAT VATO? WAS HE DOWN ?

Anonymous said...

ANYWAYS, CONEX DO YOU KNOW THAT VATO? WAS HE DOWN ?

Anonymous said...

I saw that yesterday. Vato was from Arizona Mara. Is he from that crew "Suspect Entertainment"? Some dude put together this company that hires ex-gangsters, current gangsters, etc. They're getting into films and music videos (Training Day, Christina Aguileras' "Dirty" Video, etc) Anyone know of this company? Good to see that thier using REAL(for lack of a better word) vatos than the old time pendelton, hair net, mojado that is portrayed. "Green Lighters" in Hollywood, imagine that...

Anonymous said...

Yes I know of Suspect Entertainment Im cool with the movies they play parts in but What is up with these vatos in 50Cent and MobbDeep in the 2 of these videos it show mexican gangsters like pelons getting jacked by black fools, COME ON NOW! when I see this it pisses me off!

Anonymous said...

^^^Co-Signed... I wouldn't sell my soul for 15 minutes of fame and a little cash, as in said 50 cent/Mobb Deep videos. Them fools need to get touched up for doing some shit like that... one coming from the lifestyle should know better.

REAL homeboy from the southside said...

Co-Co-Signed Yep those homboys on the videos are doing us dirty DISRESPECT? Are these vatos in the green zona? whats up? thats not cool and everybody knows it. where is the enforcement on such things? oh but dont sell dope in the varrio without paying taxes, but go ahead and go on the videos and show mayates jacking raza like thats how it really goes down. PURO PEDO

Sancha said...

I am so glad I wasn't seeing things. I was even wondering if it was makeup, but then I thought, why the hell would they put makeup on someone to make them look like EME? Thanks for making me feel ane again, guys...Lemonade all around!

Anonymous said...

curious suburbanite seeks info on history of Whittier-area gangs Jimtown, Southside Whittier, etc.

Anonymous said...

"To Make them look Eme"?

You mean Cholo... Eme is not a look... don't get it twisted!

Anonymous said...

to make them look like mexican gangsters, yep you see it all over mtv they make us look like punks when i say us i mean our culture of lowriders, varrio etc. even the blacks on their raps say things like black barrio, excuse me no such thing the Varrio/Barrio is just that these dude piss me off I got in to a fight once at a club because these mayates where yelling at this hyna hey come here i like tacos so needless to say the homeboys and me served these vatos good we didnt even know the hyna its just when they see that shit on mtv and in their videos they think they can direspect in real life that is always they are having all those mayates getting done up in Los because they think they are on a video or something

Anonymous said...

Vatos from Los act like negros and raza have always been at war. That shit didn't start until the EME told you fools to act that way. Before that, vatos from eighteen would back Hoovers against any mexican varrio. They weren't the only ones either, a few other chicano gangs were tight with negros as well and even rode together against other black and chicano gangs. Palm Hall is probably having a fit reading this . We know its you writing in caps about the sur/ab alliance. Damn, dude, you act like a girl afraid of losing her man.

Anonymous said...

thats not true we have been fighting with the mayates for a long time but they knew their place they didnt act up because the knew they would have to go to county at some pint and didnt wanted to get rolled up by the southside your trippin fool

Anonymous said...

Go ask a older vato from 18 street if the hoovers werent their tightest allies at one time.

Anonymous said...

maybe for a brief moment during some pedo but the mayates never acted the way they do now they think or raza as second class people more and more direspectful im just saying i agree with the comment up there about the mayates in the videos making raza look bad

Anonymous said...

[Before that, vatos from eighteen would back Hoovers against any mexican varrio.]

As a general rule, and you can go back as far as you want, Chicano gang members have "interacted" with black gang members mostly when it came to drugs.

If Chicanos barely hit it off with each other, how does anyone expect us to believe that Chicanos were really "tight" with Hoover or any other black gang?

It didn't take the EME to tell us all to back off from being friendly with mayates. That's a natural rivalry already and a keg looking to blow!

All the EME did was stir the pot and "raised the bar".

Anonymous said...

i dont think the eme did shit to get that ball rolling like homeboy said thats just a rivaly that been there and if you go and back mayates over southside raza then your a BUSTER yourself

Anonymous said...

THATS MY STORY AND IM STICKING TO IT! HOOVER AND 18 WERE TIGHT AS THIEVES. i MET PEOPLE FROM BOTH SIDES AND THEY ALWAYS PROCLAIMED LOVE FOR ONE ANOTHER. THE EME DIDN'T STIR THE POT, THEY TOLD YOU TO FUED JUST LIKE THEY DICTATE EVERY OTHER STEP YOU TAKE!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Did you read in the LA Times today regarding that shooting in some liquor store in So. Central? Apparently, a store owner (Guatemalen) shot and killed two mayates. Now, some Crip pandilla sprayed "187 Mexicans" in front of one the store.

Lets see who wins this little "batalla".

Anonymous said...

Eh fellas, speaking of obituaries
i just had my compa die this last week.
anybody out there know Frank Forgione,of orange county, a veterano alice baker bro. he was tight with more than a few carnales in quemas, p-bay an everywhere else.(77-93) if you did,
he went last week. im looking for pics or anything else to contribute to a memorial.mucho respecto,
gracias

Anonymous said...

Now, some Crip pandilla sprayed "187 Mexicans" in front of one the store.

Lets see who wins this little "batalla".

Of course the surenos will. The white man has locked up or killed most of the blacks already. Surenos didn't wipe them out, shit I bet most of you fools were on hush when gangs of them still lived in LA. If any of you pendejos look at statistics, you'd know there are alot less blacks in LA than there used to be and you'll also know that the raza population has blown up because of immigration. You guys were united with the blacks that lived in your hoods until you got deep enough to talk shit. Most of you wouldn't bust a grape if the odds werent 50 to 1 in your favor. Keep it real! The man got rid of the blacks in LA , not you. As for the AVES killing blacks, the fucking vato in the LA weekly story was a square, not a hardcore crip or blood. That would have been too hard.

Anonymous said...

thats not true either ese southersides run the yards and the calles so dont try to give me that pedo and the eme didnt tell homies on the calles to ride on the mayates this has been a long time coming the mayates and getting sloppy and trying to start shit they know they cant handle like homeboy said they gonna have to hit the yard at some point if they are putting in work and when they do they will be in for the shock of their live pinches crip/blood pedo and another thing is these hoodrat raza hynas with these vatos disrespecting the raza thats why shit is going down

Anonymous said...

fuck no loco in L.A. the RAZA has always been the majority stupid whose pinche side are you on stupid

Anonymous said...

fuck no loco in L.A. the RAZA has always been the majority stupid whose pinche side are you on stupid

Im on the razas side, but im fighting on a different front than you vatos. Tha raza may have been the majority in LA but they were the minority in compton/ southcentral/watts. Now raza is the majority in southcentral and compton and thats a new thing. It hasn't always been like that.

Anonymous said...

dont you vatos realize that lame ass nigger loving ass whole is a buster cant you tell he dosent no shit about los except what he's been brain washed to think i bet that mother fuker never even been passed the grapevine while southsiders are all over your fucken wanna be called varrio's acting like mayetes dressing like them hair long and nappy like them go to hell you fucking inpersonators you dont no shit about us puro southside no vale mas put us all together ese will see who run's things

Anonymous said...

put us all together ese will see who run's things

last time i seen that, 18 street ran things and banged other southsiders, such that they had their own dorm at nelles. Them and the hoovers you mocoso. I love raza, but you fools don't qualify, probably beat and rob ice cream vendors huh?

Anonymous said...

your a buster fool all the hoods you named are in compton compton in a small part of L.A. stupid east L.A. has been around for ever stupid and by the way have you forgotten a a place called MEXICO that is a short drive away go back to the field and pick guey or else be down for your raza and stop making stupid comments puro LOS guey!

chuks said...

haha damn this vato is a famero or what trying to hang on the mayate's nuts get off you mayatero

Anonymous said...

either way you dont side with the terones, remeber the rodney king riots when all the negros where beating up the mexicans, you remember that those mexicanos wrent gangbangers they were civilians let them try that shit on the pelons fuck the terones

StillNoScript said...

Just felt this earlier comment by "Anonymous" was worth a bump:

"Eh fellas, speaking of obituaries
i just had my compa die this last week.
anybody out there know Frank Forgione,of orange county, a veterano alice baker bro. he was tight with more than a few carnales in quemas, p-bay an everywhere else.(77-93) if you did,
he went last week. im looking for pics or anything else to contribute to a memorial.mucho respecto,
gracias

2:46 PM"

Anonymous said...

you vatos must have little dicks, instead of hating on blacks, worry about doing something to make mexicans better. Maybe when you vatos get somewhere in life, you'll realize there's alot more to life than worrying about the blacks. You represent the raza by going to school and becoming a doctor or lawyer, not by sitting here talking shit about blacks. One last thing, WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU VATOS DOING WATCHING RAP VIDEOS?????? AHAHAHAHA ITS YOU MOFO'S ON THEIR JOCK! IT HIT ME YESTERDAY YOU VATOS WERE STUPID MOCOSOS BECAUSE I CAN'T THINK OF ANYONE WHO HAS ENOUGH FREE TIME TO SPEND IT WATCHNIG RAP VIDEOS. SO KEEP TALKING SHIT ABOUT MAYATES WHILE YOU ARE GLUED TO THE BET STATION. I KNOW THEY DON'T SHOW THOSE VIDEOS ON SABADO GIGANTE. AHAHAHAHA!

Anonymous said...

I agree you with you on the first half of your comment homie... that raza should better themselves instead of trying to put down others. As far as watching rap videos, it's part of society... blacks entertain, it's what they do... since the days of Mr. Bo'jangles homie... and now we have raza playing the fucked up role in the videos, which is a fucked up thing to do for a little money and 15 minutes of fame.
All ratas up on here can eat a dick, hope you get hit by a bus today! :)

Anonymous said...

As far as watching rap videos, it's part of society... blacks entertain, it's what they do... since the days of Mr. Bo'jangles homie... and now we have raza playing the fucked up role in the videos, which is a fucked up thing to do for a little money and 15 minutes of fame.
All ratas up on here can eat a dick, hope you get hit by a bus today! :)


its part of society when your young, but come on ese, at some point its time to grow up and try new things. watch the news, see whats going on in the world.

Anonymous said...

Wow, you guys are stupid. Don't you realize this is what "The Man" wants?
Read your history books and realize this is a classic example of "Divide and Conquer".
The common factor is both Black and hispanic communities is poverty. They get you all to kill each other off and you are doing their job for them. In the 70's there was the rise of Black Awareness and at the same time there was Chicano unity, or do any of you not remember some dude named Caesar Chavez?
Back in the day, Chicanos and Blacks were more unified, lets face it, in the eyes of whites, we are all niggers.
And during the Rodney king riots, who was looting more? Blacks or Mexicans?
Instead of inciting a race war just so you can see who can run priosns why not unite and make your neighborhoods better or do you enjoy having the largest ratio of Liqour Stores, check Cashing and Gun Stores?

Anonymous said...

I hear what you're saying homie, but negros are in all aspects of entertainment now a days. We can't just be watching telemundo all day long, sabes. I hear what you're saying (as far as rap goes)... and orale, I agree to an extent and ain't nuthin wrong with listening to 'different' music. Back in the day it was rare to get a rap song on MTV, but it's so mainstream now, it's rare to not see a 'nigga' singing or rapping. I don't have a problem with mayates doing their thing, it's with the vatos who come from the lifestyle and portray themselves as cholos getting played like levas in the videos.

Anonymous said...

I first witnessed divide and conquer when prop 187 was on the ballot. The powers that be really courted the blacks against raza in that one. It wouldn't have been enough to pass that ballot on white votes alone because it would have came across as racial, but when all the blacks voted to pass it, the ballot acquired a sort of legitimacy. I knew in my gut that the moment the blacks signed onto prop 187 because they were happy the man found a new nigger
( mexican immigrants), that they would be next. Sure enough because of the division between us, the man took affirmative action away the next year. Stuck it right to those blacks for their support of prop 187. It hurt raza to lose affirmative action, but blacks were hit hardest by that. Both sides lost for not standing together for minority rights.

Anonymous said...

I like that shit... we the new niggers!

Anonymous said...

I like that shit... we the new niggers!

15-20 years back, politicians would try to get elected by taking a tough on crime stance. The guy running for office would show a bunch of black criminals and tell us to vote for him because he was going to protect us from them. The last few elections have had campaign commercials depicting cholos as the victimizers of society and the persons we need government protection from. The commercials don't show all the hard working farm workers saving republican farmers money, but cholos in jail. its not the blacks the politicians promise to protect us from, its mexicans.
Turn off the RAP videos and watch the news, then read between the lines. that should be enough proof raza is the new blacks.

After 9/11 I thought the muslims would take our place as the new blacks, but with the media focus on MS13 , its obvious were not done playing the villian in campaign commercials.

Those fucking campaign commercials depicting all mexicans as illigal,gangsters, lazy, dirty, and detrimental to society should have you vatos way more pissed off than a rap video showing gangsters getting jacked (im sure it happens both ways sometimes), maybe it did at the time and we forgot. I dont think guliani is above smearing us to get elected in 2008.

Anonymous said...

With prop 187, the media made a big point of showing how many blacks voted for it.
It made me smile to see them crying over affirmative action being lost within a year.

Anonymous said...

Hey,

I asked where Freddie "Veneno" Gonzales was on this site a while back, well I found him....

"I'm doing time for guys … who want to kill me," said Freddie Gonzalez, a Mexican Mafia dropout from Pomona who is serving a life sentence for killing a Nuestra Familia member on mafia orders. "Some of us older guys get together. We say, 'What did we do all that stuff for?' I don't know."

He and Blackie Amya stabbed some NF DO at CRC and Veneno got made and Blackie rolled over and then all the sudden Frddie was in the hat?
Palm Hall

Anonymous said...

LISTEN UP STUPID!I can watch the videos if I want I have time to do that IN MY HOME I OWN WITH MY BEAUTIFUL CHICANA WIFE AND MY BEUTIFUL KIDS IN MY YARD I LANDSCAPE MYSELF IN MY GARAGE NEXT TO MY CHEVY AND MY WIFE BMW! Bitch I am Raza and a proud representation of it and I am from the barrio the the mayates are disrespectful these day and the videos show the raza in a bad way STUPID I aint know chump and I will hold court so Tell that to your mayate friends ESE!

nondescriptfriend said...

hey stillnoscript,
thanks for the bump.Frank was amazing individual, i take it you may have known him?

Anonymous said...

LISTEN UP STUPID!I can watch the videos if I want I have time to do that IN MY HOME I OWN WITH MY BEAUTIFUL CHICANA WIFE AND MY BEUTIFUL KIDS IN MY YARD I LANDSCAPE MYSELF IN MY GARAGE NEXT TO MY CHEVY AND MY WIFE BMW! Bitch I am Raza and a proud representation of it and I am from the barrio the the mayates are disrespectful these day and the videos show the raza in a bad way STUPID I aint know chump and I will hold court so Tell that to your mayate friends ESE!

Is this the best you can come back with? what do i care if your wife has a 1977 bmw (trying to bait you)? what do i care if you landscape your own yard? I don't know too many blacks, but the ones I do are doctors, lawyers, engineers etc etc and believe me, they don't waste their time talking shit about mexicans or the white man(too much going for that). So fuck it, go ahead and waste your time watching rap videos and being pissed because they don't agree with your ideas. P.S. Its pretty fucking lame for a grown man, especially raza, to waste their time watching rap videos. Read chuco's book instead, sounds like you can afford it, a 77 bmw only costs about 500.00

Anonymous said...

Hey stupid you know what I mean and nothing in my possesion is as old as 1977 I wasnt even born yet IDIOT! Damn you really like defending the mayates dont you, PURO LOS PURO 213 AND PURO LA RAZA PEOPLE OF THE SUN and sorry your forefathers where slaves!

Anonymous said...

your stupid ese a grown MAN can do what he wants I want to know why the eme doesnt put green lights one the mayates for portraying the raza like that???????????

Anonymous said...

that fool is syupid he just like sucking niggers dicks

Anonymous said...

DAMN!

Anonymous said...

Im laughing while you all you vatos are pissed off. Thats a sign of weakness in the pinta homie. You can't be letting other vatos play with your emotions. I even said I was baiting you and yet, you still bit hook , line and sinker. As for that 213 los sur cheerleading you got going on, it just proves my point your immature.

Anonymous said...

"PURO LOS PURO 213 AND PURO LA RAZA PEOPLE OF THE SUN and sorry your forefathers where slaves!"
So your so called ancestors, sorry what do you call them, ah, yes, "People of the Sun"? So you are not desecendent of slaves? What do you call what all the mexicans were when the Spaniards took over? Were they not slaves? Are you not a slave to Eme's will on the streets? Are the Eme shot callers not slaves to thier Tecato habit? Are you not a slave to this blog? What makes you better than any nigger on the calles? Are they all dumb and lazy? probably not, but are all mexicans hard working? Probably not.
IF you complain about someone pissing on you, you are in some way or form a slave. Its the American way. If you don't like it and think Mexico is such a nice play to be, go back then, carnalito.

Anonymous said...

NO WAY FOOL IM FREE I have enough sense not to get jumped in because i wanted things later in life which is what I got just like this computer im sitting in front of I just get mad when your out to say the mayates are better than my raza as people becaus they are not FOOL

Anonymous said...

Hey go put your high water red dickies on and have the mayates corn row your hair fool thats your preference QUE NO!

Anonymous said...

oh by the way my jefe already owns land in mexico and i will someday too so go back to your dirty neighborhood

Anonymous said...

Hey guys in case you havent noticed this ia a blog site for the news on crime, gangs etc. in los angeles can we get back to that, quit fighting please

Anonymous said...

I think the super sur cheerleader needs a hug. You ain't no banger so enjoy life. And by the way you ever even seen a Norte?

Anonymous said...

Hell yea I seen them in sacramento and in fresno red dickies and all corn rows too ANd yes this site is about LOS ANGELES, southside fool

Anonymous said...

*crickets*

Anonymous said...

I just get mad when your out to say the mayates are better than my raza as people becaus they are not FOOL

WHEN DID I SAY THAT ? I said you can do alot better representing raza by uplifting yourself than you can by trying to put down others. You really need to get a grip on your emotions carnalito because one day, some vato may say something knowing how you'll react and when you do, he'll spring his trap, then, pobrecito, ya estufas. Like I said, In the pinta, being a stress case is considered as having weakness of character. Thats when the finger probes start getting mentioned. hahahaha

Anonymous said...

Hey young bucks, calmate. We are fucking up this blog by all this non-sense. Lets not turn into streetgang or allhood. Let's get educated and have some respect here. Use facts instead of insults. Use knowledge instead of stupidity. This vato that runs this sito has done a great job of informing all of us. Let's respect this sito by not turning it into a pissing contest of "who's harder/who's badder or who's a nigger" Tu sabes locos. Chale homie, everybody relax and sip on a pisto. Or do your homework and make your jefita proud. Let's stick to the topics here. If someone wants to start another blog on nortenos and the mighty SUR, then go on. It's free. Let us know the address. Until then, keep it real and show some respect. Alrato...LONG BEACH NORTH SIDE VETERANO

Anonymous said...

SI'MON LOCO Ill kick back PURO SUR13

Anonymous said...

you a fuckin lame ese this aint the pen you like it so much go back guey no mamas
213 SURENOS 13

Anonymous said...

you a fuckin lame ese this aint the pen you like it so much go back guey no mamas
213 SURENOS 13

so your a banger thinking he wont hit the pinta?

Sabes que wannabe loco? If any of you sorry cheerleaders get torcidos, it wont be the nortenos or blacks fucking you up, it'll be the surenos. you know why, because they are deep and don't need side busters making them look bad. thats all you fuckers are, straight side busters riding the sur's nuts. Believe me, if you fags get locked up and want to cheerlead for the SUR, there will be dues to pay for membership and judging by how weak you vatos are here, i dont think you can afford the price.
the vato who's post im responding to isn't even a sureno, he's a paisa. stick to what you know plastico!

Anonymous said...

213 SURENOS 13

I'd say throw your hood up but I forgot you ain't from one.

Anonymous said...

Can anyone verify this content. Alot of info floating around.

http://www.geocities.com/chicanoinformation/index.html

Anonymous said...

213 SURENOS 13

I'd say throw your hood up but I forgot you ain't from one.

thats not a hood pendejo, a hood is white fence, maravilla, columbia lil cycos, clant14, nuevo estrada, florencia, etgc, rolling 0's etc etc.
the fact all you can claim is
213 surenos 13 tells me your not even from a varrio. put it on hush lil vato because every time you speak, you only show how weak you really are to the real gangsters. trust me, your making the sur look bad.

RASKAL2 said...

EAST SIDE 18 ST. LS RIP DOPEY
YOU FUCKIN PUTO FUCK YOU WHY YOU TRYING THE GANGBANG ON THE INTERNET

Raskal2 said...

FUCK you again puto BIG BAD 18 ST. EAST SIDE!

Anonymous said...

Fuckin leva

Anonymous said...

BEBITTOS!

Anonymous said...

http://www.streetgangs.com/graffiti/pics/norte14.html

Anonymous said...

EAST SIDE 18 ST. LS RIP DOPEY
YOU FUCKIN PUTO FUCK YOU WHY YOU TRYING THE GANGBANG ON THE INTERNET

Im not banging on the net , your the one doing all that. oh yeah, your homie crip-dog from 94 hoover said " what up my nigga, remember when we used to ride on dem florencia's together? damn those were the days"

Anonymous said...

FUCK you again puto BIG BAD 18 ST. EAST SIDE

sorry to hear about the homies in those South American pintas, MS really put it down. Have you retaliated on the MS in Los for that pedo?

Anonymous said...

your fuckin stupid, anyways what else is going on in the beautiful city of Los Angeles? The sun is out the women are fine. Damn its great to be a L.A........

Anonymous said...

Angel? Anaheim Angel?

Anonymous said...

Hey this is Pam Hall and I havent written anything on this site in about a month.
Well that must mean that the Sur is the girl because I aint white... I aint writting in caps either....

Anonymous said...

no such thing as arizona mara. never ever heard of them.

Anonymous said...

disregard that last statement, messed up.

Anonymous said...

DOES ANYONE KNOW ABOUT TOMAS MUNOZ..HE PASSED AWAY IN QUENTIN
AND DANNY MUNOZ,OLD TIMERS

Anonymous said...

what the hell does that mean palm hall? hey wally what up with a new headline? have you heard about the beef that been going down in downtown L.A.?

Anonymous said...

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StillNoScript said...

nondescriptfriend said...

hey stillnoscript,
thanks for the bump.Frank was amazing individual, i take it you may have known him?
1:33 PM


Absolutely not. I'm just an observer here. I just thought the death notice was special and I didn't want it to get lost in the little flaming dispute going on.

Anonymous said...

Hey Buster lover you know better than to attempt to cover the mayates ass with your Rodney King riot ramble...buster boy lover WRITES:

"Back in the day, Chicanos and Blacks were more unified, lets face it, in the eyes of whites, we are all niggers."

How do you disrespect the RAZA by saying that? Calling sureno nigger?

Well, Buster boy, I'm white, and my sureno brothers don't quite see things that way buster. Your entitled to your opinion, but we see hard ass working latino's making the grade everyday...passing your lazy ass negro friends up by doing the right thing. Hard work man, that is LABOR! You can't be latino, they work hard. Alice Baker knows better.

We respect hard work. Not government paychecks, waiting at the post office that just got burned down because some mayate fool saw fit to torch it. Then watch all the mothers screaming 'Where's our check!"....

Well, look around now. Those hoods are building up...looking ok. And its NOT because of mayate's HARD LABOR. Chican's know the grade man.
Latino's are about some of the hardest working motherfuckers I know. I have Helluva respect for em'

You blame the "White Man" for all of your woes..thinking that chicano's will follow blindly like sheep. Your dead ass wrong buster. It's the 21st Century man...get with the program.

Hard work, american dream and money.
Own a home, raise your kids, own nice cars and do it all legally.

It's better than visiting friends at OCJ or worse the gravesites at Rose Hills. Chicans are amongst the finest people I know. I have grown up around them my entire life. I've scrapped, fought, loved and lived with them. They are my sureno brothers, and I respect them, they respect me. It's that simple buster.

Anonymous said...

RIP Frank Forgione

"Just felt this earlier comment by "Anonymous" was worth a bump:

"Eh fellas, speaking of obituaries
i just had my compa die this last week.
anybody out there know Frank Forgione,of orange county, a veterano alice baker bro. he was tight with more than a few carnales in quemas, p-bay an everywhere else.(77-93) if you did,
he went last week. im looking for pics or anything else to contribute to a memorial.mucho respecto,
gracias

Anonymous said...

Might have an old yard Photo of Frank Forgione and Bobby Ray Sheilds along with Barry Mills and some others. Have to look.

Anonymous said...

What that was, a responce to a previous post that some one entered saying I would get mad and that I was the one writting in CAP's bitching about about some anti Brand/eMe brotherhood.
Palm Hall

Anonymous said...

Hey they Miss spelled Franks Name in the Obit's on the REgisters web site...

Anonymous said...

They Miss spelled Franks name in the obit's on the OC registers web site.....

Anonymous said...

Hey Buster lover you know better than to attempt to cover the mayates ass with your Rodney King riot ramble...buster boy lover WRITES:

"Back in the day, Chicanos and Blacks were more unified, lets face it, in the eyes of whites, we are all niggers."

How do you disrespect the RAZA by saying that? Calling sureno nigger?

Well, Buster boy, I'm white, and my sureno brothers don't quite see things that way buster. Your entitled to your opinion, but we see hard ass working latino's making the grade everyday...passing your lazy ass negro friends up by doing the right thing. Hard work man, that is LABOR! You can't be latino, they work hard. Alice Baker knows better.

We respect hard work. Not government paychecks, waiting at the post office that just got burned down because some mayate fool saw fit to torch it. Then watch all the mothers screaming 'Where's our check!"....

Well, look around now. Those hoods are building up...looking ok. And its NOT because of mayate's HARD LABOR. Chican's know the grade man.
Latino's are about some of the hardest working motherfuckers I know. I have Helluva respect for em'

You blame the "White Man" for all of your woes..thinking that chicano's will follow blindly like sheep. Your dead ass wrong buster. It's the 21st Century man...get with the program.

Hard work, american dream and money.
Own a home, raise your kids, own nice cars and do it all legally.

It's better than visiting friends at OCJ or worse the gravesites at Rose Hills. Chicans are amongst the finest people I know. I have grown up around them my entire life. I've scrapped, fought, loved and lived with them. They are my sureno brothers, and I respect them, they respect me. It's that simple buster.

you were doing good until the sureno brothers part. Hey, i notice all the construction crews are mexican and know it must be for a reason (we have a reputation as hard workers). I just don't see where having to be pissed at the blacks all day is constructive. And I dont blame the white man for all my troubles, sure i think he looks out for his own before us, but i know any poor minority can get a free college education. Im all for hard work, i'd like to see raza not only working hard but smart. What do you mean ALICE BAKER knows were hardworkers? Do we work for Alice? We'll since you said sureno brothers, I guess it don't apply to me. Im must be one of the lazy mexicans because im out of the area.

Anonymous said...

Hey Whiteboy Sureno Lover,
You dumb piece of white trash. How many Sureno's do you know that are hard working? So killing gente is hard working eh? Preying on your own people is hard working? You're a fucking lop talking out the side of your neck. And yes, most of the you wannabe cholo sureno types are considered niggers by LE and they establishment. Why do you think LE doesn't give a shit when you kill one another? Just like the niggers.
Genocide, holmes. Look up the word.
So which is it? Raise a family, own a house or be a sureno? Because rarely its both.
Look around homie, do you know any all latino colleges in the US? Now have you ever heard of Grambling or Howard university? The niggers learned and they all try to uplift themselves now. But vatos like you who claim the gangster life and try to call it Raza is just full of shit. Instead of claiming Sureno, claim a job and help your community instead of bringing it down, you dump truck. Don't forget to put the emergency brake on your trailer home, The santa ana's can kick up a lot wind, wouldn't want to see your house rolling down the 110.

Anonymous said...

Dude you are juat a leva blaming white people for your lap of potenial that why you could never ride is this car.

Anonymous said...

"Hard work, american dream and money.
Own a home, raise your kids, own nice cars and do it all legally."
Then you say Sureno Brothers in the same breath? Which one is it,white boy? You can't have both. Sureno soldier and living the american dream legally? You been watching too much Blood In, Blood Out, snowflake.

Anonymous said...

Yea, Paisa's are hard working,fucking Sureno's are lazy ass pelons. How many Sureno's hold down jobs? Kinda hard to hold down a normal job with SUR tatooed on your forehead. Too funny.
How many Sureno's will take the landscaping, Janitor and fast food jobs? You fools on this blog are talking too much shit. Paisa's take those jobs, and you look down on them but when this arguement comes up all the sudden the Paisa is now your own "Raza"? Selective Amnesia?

SD HOMIE said...

TRIPPING! There is alot of surenos that own shit like house and cars it aint that hard to do, BESIDES HOW ELSE DO YOU THINK THOSE EME TAXES GET PAID STUPID!

Anonymous said...

I think there are alot of surenos who are hardworking because i've worked with them in addition to nortenos, and bulldogs. There not the ones on the street pushing hate and evil though. Every group has its fuck ups and good people. Once, when i was younger and careless, i went into a gym full of surenos while my team was outside playing handball, I did too many bench presses and couldn't get the weights off my chest, the biggest sureno in the gym came over and pulled them off me. I said thanks, he nodded and walked away. several weeks later i kicked off a riot against the other surenos and he hit me hard. still ,i think he was a good vato and is probably working somewhere doing good and represting the sur.

Anonymous said...

I think there are alot of surenos who are hardworking because i've worked with them in addition to nortenos, and bulldogs. There not the ones on the street pushing hate and evil though. Every group has its fuck ups and good people. Once, when i was younger and careless, i went into a gym full of surenos while my team was outside playing handball, I did too many bench presses and couldn't get the weights off my chest, the biggest sureno in the gym came over and pulled them off me. I said thanks, he nodded and walked away. several weeks later i kicked off a riot against the other surenos and he hit me hard. still ,i think he was a good vato and is probably working somewhere doing good and represting the sur.

THINGS HAVE CHANGED , IF YOUR A BONAFIDE SURENO, YOUR PUTTING IN WORK. EVERYONE ELSE IS SIDE BUSTING.

Anonymous said...

Putting in work AND getting paid my brother

Anonymous said...

exactly, how do you keep a full time job and do everything legally if you are full fledged Sureno Gangster Killer? You vatos on this blog have a warped sense of reality.
The vato who bashed the whiteboy about hard working surenos is right. I don't know any surenos that put in work on the streets with a full time job with a timecard let alone a house they own.

Anonymous said...

then you only busters with no game shot callers put in work all the time without getting their hands dirty

Anonymous said...

Hey doesnt anyone know about the cop Tony Moreno who is supposebly the real pacman from the movie colors was based on he goes around giving speeches

Anonymous said...

Hey if you dont ahve any INPUT ABOUT LOS ANGELES and shit going on around HERE the kick rocks Because this blog is about L.A. gang news and polotics fuck anywhere else

Anonymous said...

politics...you dumb fuck.

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Anonymous said...

Hey if you dont ahve any INPUT ABOUT LOS ANGELES and shit going on around HERE the kick rocks Because this blog is about L.A. gang news and polotics fuck anywhere else

Sorry homie, Did anyone see the new Carlito's Way Movie? It has the PR's and Blacks Killing off a Italian Mafia crew. It really has the italians getting played. I wonder if the italians have a blog like this one where they are all pissed off too? I wonder if anyone has suggested a hit on puffy for that? probably not

Anonymous said...

Im sure puffy was already targeted for other shit when they hit Biggie he got lucky.

Anonymous said...

Hey fool are you in the game or what or you on the sidelines monday morning quarter backing because ive been through alot of shit and im glad to be here today thats why i take offense and if someone is talking out the side of their neck and im somewhere i tell them to calm daon if they say smart ass shit to disrespect then its on im a good man and descent but it is possible to push peoples button to the point of where you are just asking for it you know

EL pedro rojo said...

I would just like to say that I am from northern california I am a norterno XIV and I love the scraps they are so sexy with their bald heads and muscles and tattoos everytime I head to the jopint I try to bunk with one so they can push my shit in, i love it. please dont get mad my norte brothers

Anonymous said...

whether you pushing it in or getting it pushed in both sound gay to me.

Anonymous said...

ive been through alot of shit and im glad to be here today thats why i take offense

what offended you?

Anonymous said...

who cares, yea really GAY!

Anonymous said...

Ga. Locals Criticize Mayor on Flying Flag 45 minutes ago



TIFTON, Ga. - A south Georgia mayor said Friday he will continue flying a Mexican flag at city hall for the six immigrant farmworkers slain in robberies — despite complaints from residents.

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Seven people called WTIF radio station Thursday, saying the gesture was inappropriate and that the Mexican and U.S. flags should not fly together.

"I did that as an expression of sorrow to the Hispanic community," Mayor Paul Johnson said. "For those who we offended, I apologize, but I think it was the right thing to do."

The red, white and green Mexican flag, donated by the Colombian-born priest of Tifton's only Roman Catholic church, was first raised Monday and taken down Thursday because it was damaged by Tropical Storm Tammy.

The mayor has requested a new flag and pledged the display would last six days, one for each man slain.

Johnson said he considers immigrants to be a part of the community, who do very important work. "They're here to find the hope of America," the mayor said.

WTIF station manager Chris Beckham said the callers who opposed the display "just thought it was the wrong thing to do."

The six men were killed with guns and baseball bats during a crime spree authorities blame on an armed-robbery gang that preyed on immigrants. Three people have been charged with first-degree murder.

Anonymous said...

The Mexican Mafia, also known as the New Family, is a militant revolutionary group in the California Prison System. They are known to use violent and disruptive attacks against the California Department of Correction Authority. They engage in rebellion, insurrection and destruction of Prison property. This group is made up of primarily Mexican-American convicts from the barrios of East Los Angeles. They have expanded power outside of the penal facilities and are organized into ethnic groups who are trying to control narcotics, contract killings, robbery and forgery. This group is antiblack and has aligned itself with the Aryan Brotherhood, a white supremacy movement .

Anonymous said...

LMAO... "The New Family". Please kill ur self... don't post stupid shit! Eme is not known as the New Family!

Anonymous said...

"Revolutionary" group???

Anonymous said...

"The Mexican Mafia, also known as the New Family, is a militant revolutionary group in the California Prison System."

What genius gang investigator came up with that analysis?

Anonymous said...

I read that that is from an fbie file Ill try to find the webpage..lol

Anonymous said...

OK Here it is read and weap


http://foia.fbi.gov/foiaindex/mafia_mexican.htm

Anonymous said...

that was probably an original assessment back in 1969 when the Govt. didnt really know what was going on. The fact they still can't update the info just goes to show how hard your tax dollars are working. well those of us that work anyways.

Anonymous said...

haha yea is say like 1974 in there somewhere and the heading of the page is current date were they wrong or what

Anonymous said...

The state's worst prison riot in more than a decade began in the morning of Wednesday, February 23, 2001, a dark overcast day, after guards at Pelican Bay State Prison had frisked more than 200 maximum-security inmates and sent them outside for routine exercise in the recreation yard. They had been outside less than an hour when one group of inmates converged on another, and the three-acre yard erupted in a rolling series of vicious battles - pitting black inmates against whites and Latinos. Guards shot 13 inmates, killing one. An additional 35 inmates were treated for less serious injuries - primarily slashing and stabbing wounds inflicted with approximately 50 homemade weapons smuggled into the yard in apparent preparation for the fight. The dead prisoner was the 56th inmate to be killed by gunfire in California state prisons in the past 30 years.

Anonymous said...

They actually show footage of that over the weekend on The Nation Geographic channel. Some special about Prisons and Gangs. I think the prison they showed in the special was Folsom, just outside Sacra.
They showed the footage from the Pelican Bay riot and the one guy that was shot and killed by guards was a Southsider.
The mayates were outnumbered but stood their ground throwing haymakers. There was some big ass niggers standing toe to toe against 2 or 3 fools.

Anonymous said...

you can watch it on the ccpoa website under code three/bloodsport. There's one vato who has about four guys on him and he's getting off wonderfully until someone catches him from the side. I wonder if the north backed the mayates or stayed out of it

Anonymous said...

looked, it wasn't there. Are u sure?

Anonymous said...

Hey, any Nortenos on here who now live in So Cal?

Anonymous said...

nah the north stayed out of that one i seen the footage too and talked to a homie that was in there and still is they let all the mayates out first on the yard then the southsiders came out kicked it for a minute then all the woods came out and just rushed the mayates they were shanking fools left and right that was some crazy ass shit the footage i heard a mayate was shot

Anonymous said...

im born and raised in southern califas and moved to northern cali in my adulthood for business reasons then came back cause it was too fuckin HOT up there like 110 degrees in the summer fuck that shit

Anonymous said...

LOL yea it gets hot up there

nerd said...

you can watch that on the LOCK UP series on msnbc channel on the weekends they always show crazy ass shit on there too

Anonymous said...

Hey any of you guys believe in angels?

Anonymous said...

looked, it wasn't there. Are u sure?

it was there last week. I should have checked to make sure it was there before sending you guys there. I couldn't find it anymore. They had that and a video called "hardtime" you could link to in the past. The riot in the bay was on a video that was all clips of shit kicking off. I'll keep looking and if I find it, I'll post a link. dispensa for the misinformation

Anonymous said...

110??
Man, its only that hot where the boonies near Sac Town are. Where towns like Modesto, Stocktone, Tracy, Merced and Turloch are.
But In the bay, like San Fran, San Jo, and Oaktown, it never gets that hot.
I saw the video too and it was a pelon that got shot, not a mayate. They actually showed the body laying there will blood just oozing out. The footage is nuts though, you see a wave of fools just running at these niggers and they basically have nowhere to run but I will tell you this, Mayates in the pinta have more heart than those niggers on the street, they stood their ground even though they were outnumbered.

some vato who is tired of being tired. said...

yea ive been to sac its that hot and the bay stays cool and i seen that footage its a mayate hes just light skin..lol I agree the terones on the street would not have half the heart i never said i didnt give respect to the mayates in the joint i just said out here they trip i always come across mayates trying to speak spanish to relate like i bump into them and they say "oh spensa pordona mi..." i respect that but when its time to ride its time to ride...que no its sad its that way but like the firme oldie sing....."what can i do?".....you all know and i am sorry for my part in society but ....PURO SOUTHSIDE CALIFAS...and my hood doesnt matter....

Anonymous said...

its sad anyone know Victory Otreach's address?

Anonymous said...

where at nortern cali or southern califas?

Anonymous said...

Let me put this pedo to rest. The riot in Pelican Bay was between SURENOS and mayates. The carnales rushed the blacks and all hell broke loose. The vato that was shot was Miguel Sanchez. Vato was doing life. Mayates were outnumbered and huddled against a fence with their backs to the fence. They were throwing basketballs at the raza. And no the nortenos didn't jump in. You have to remember, when pedo pops off, no one helps anyone out. It's usually one set verses another. Just cause nortenos are cool with mayates doesnt mean they are going to help them. Everyone has to earn their own keep in the pinta. If the nortenos were to jump, that would make the mayates look like chumps. Needing help and shit. Same thing with the Raza. Whites will back the SUR'S play if somethng big goes down. Tu sabes? The RAZA though, gave it to them knuckle draggers real bad. Sent a bunch of them to the hospital. Mayates really dont want none with the SUR. We are too thick in the pinta and the real chance they have is on the calles. So settle up young bucks. Lets keep this sito firme. No more net banging. Be cool and have some respect. Alrato ~NUTTY NORTH SIDE LONGO 13~

sd homie said...

ORALE! Finally some truth to the madness. I understand do the rest you you?

sd homie said...

oh, SD= SAN DIEGO HOMEBOY(probably the only one here, right Lizerd)

Anonymous said...

FINALLY, Truth in WORD has spoken.

"The RAZA though, gave it to them knuckle draggers real bad. Sent a bunch of them to the hospital. Mayates really dont want none with the SUR."

Mayate numbers require sur/ab cooperation. clearly, norteno's got the picture and mayates bear the result. You have one sureno...you have a "Soldier".....

bring 2 surenos....you have
familia carnalgas...

You Have TRECE Surenos.....
You have a WAR...reinforced by alice baker cameradas, a bloodbath.

Norteno's aren't STUPID.

They know what's up.

Anonymous said...

DAMN! HOMEBOY! LIKE THAT!

Anonymous said...

DAMN! HOMEBOY! LIKE THAT!

Anonymous said...

I JUST GOT OUT OF OCJ AND HERE IS THE LIST OF GENTE WITH A GREENLIGHT
west side compadres,maravilla,slim,new bmls that was up to the day of yesterday.
PLAYBOY
KILLER SOUTH SIDERS.

Anonymous said...

OH SHIT! Now that is something to read! Homeboy just put it out there for your ASS!
Where is that faggot ass snorte talking about he loves the mayates so muchy, you fuckin civilian.

Anonymous said...

LIKE I SAID ME VALE MADRE , PURO TAXFREE GREENLIGHT EAST LOS MARAVILLA,OPAL STREET,LOWELL,TOWNSEND STREET LOKOS,LIL EAST SIDE, CIOWW AND WHAT FOOLS. QUE RIFA MI..

the reverend said...

i wake up everyday wondering if another brother will die things change every day but nothing is new. some times we have no choice but to set an expiration date of another but why must we pay to train the government to kill us. they are trained to shoot to kill, my sister married a cop and let me add that i did not attend the wedding although hes good to my sister hes not my brother. my nephew not his blood son asked him why dont cops use smaller caliber weapons like 22s to shoot and injure instead of big calibers and shoot to kill. his answer was a cop was shot 5 times in the face with a 22 and didnt die they dont kill easily. how does it make him a better roll model then the average gang member who who goes toe to toe.

JORGE R. said...

MARAVILLA IN OCJ? OR IS THAT JUST I CASE A GREENLIGHT PUTO GET BUSTED IN OCJ,WHAT DOES NEW BMLS STAND FOR? AND SLIM WHO THAT FUCK IS THAT DOES ANY HOMIE FROM THE 5150 KNOW HOW TRUE THIS LIST IS AND DIDNT COMPADRES PAID OFF THEIR DEBT AND WERENT CHINOS ON THE LIST TOO.

Anonymous said...

I JUST GOT OUT YESTERDAY TOO,AND I KNOW CHINOS DO HAVE A GREENLIGHT AND ALL THE GREENLIGHT GANGS TOO,WE TAX A SLIM FROM WEST SIDE SANTA ANA I THINK THAT IS WHO THAT VATO IS TALKING ABOUT HE WAS IN J MODE,I DIDNT KNOW ABOUT COMPADRES,BUT THERE WAS TALK NIGGERS WERE GOING TO GET I TOO BUT THE LISTA CHAGE DAY TOO DAY.
NO ONE MAN ALONE HAS A GREENLIGHT THAT I KNOW LIKE I SAID WE TAX THAT VATO BUT IT WAS A MODE THING.

Sancha said...

I was watching American Me last night and wondered if anyone knows what cemetary the scene between Santana and his father was shot it? There's an old one in East Los called Oddfellows, and I wondered if it was that? Also, and I know this for a fact...it is possible to be in the life, hold down a full-time job legally, and make your house payments. It may not be the norm, but it is possible. You do the best you can with the cards you're dealt; some of us bluff better than others...

Anonymous said...

TijuanaJailer,

I've been reading your posts here and it's obvious you know your stuff.

I was wondering if you'd ever heard of a guy named Vincent Jackson. He's from a gang called Varrio Centro Sacra, which is a Norteno gang in Downtown Sacramento.

He was a big time drug dealer for years, and finally got nailed a couple of years ago. The Sacramento Bee did a HUGE article on him, like 5 pages.

Any info. would be appreciated. If not, I must say I still enjoy your posts. Hope to read more from you.

Anonymous said...

^^^^^the last 2 post sound like sum law enforsment trying to get sum info....nice try,,,but then again..these lames run at the fingers...

Anonymous said...

tijuana jailer..can u rat out sum jente here on the blog?....thats what u do all fukin day...

Anonymous said...

LOL TIJUANA JAILER IS NOT A RATA ACCORDING TO THE HOMIES YOU CAN NOT CALL A RATA OVER THE INTERNET GROW UP LIL MOCO BEFORE YOU CALL SOMEONE A RATA THIS IS INTERNET BULLSHIT WHAT IT IS SAID IN HERE IS NOT PAPERWORK YOU ARE MORE OF A RATA IF YOU THINK THIS IS OFFICIAL EME PAPERWORK TO BE OFFICIAL IT HAS TO BE COURT PAPERS MAYBE YOU HAVE SOME OF THOSE RATA.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

"tijuana jailer..can u rat out sum jente here on the blog?....thats what u do all fukin day..."
1:37 AM


From what I've read, it's pretty obvious TijuanaJailer is a retired corrections officer. Since he is law enforcement, how could he be a snitch too?

FYI, I'm not a cop. My interest in Vincent Jackson is related to a book an associate of mine is writing on California street gangs. I myself am involved in new media; similar to this blog. I just happened upon this site this evening. It's a fine blog. I guess the net banging is par for the course, but there seems to be a few seasoned veterans here, both LE and gangsters, who speak clearly, know what they're talking about, and have some interesting things to say. I'll be checking in here often.

TijuanaJailer said...

(tijuana jailer..can u rat out sum jente here on the blog?....thats what u do all fukin day...)

I'll be happy to take this one. A "rat" - in the Chicano street definition - would be a member of your world who "turns" against his own. I have never been part of "your world" to begin with but I believe I understand what you are trying to communicate.

Some folks on this blog - very few - have a criminal lifestyle they wish to uphold. In doing so, they wish to perpetuate this "aura of secrecy" that's supposed to similarly exist in the barrios.

Their rules: You don't talk about the existence of the EME (or else ...), you don't name names (or else .....), you don't expose the EME's inner workings (or else).

There's absolutely nothing new and secret about what we discuss on this blog and it is actually "a matter of public record". There are public police reports, court transcripts and other information that makes this non threatening to your Big Homies.

So don't worry, Samantha. Your bro's have bigger problems than paying attention to some internet gossip. I can further tell you this much: if an EME member were to log onto this site, he would probably get a kick out of how accurate many of the folks are here about much of their history.

With all that said and done, information will continue to flow on this blog site and wherever the good guys conduct their "warfare" with the bad guys. Folks - law enforcement, churches, schools and other interested parties - will be that much wiser and informed about activities in their venues/regions.

Peace .........

Tijuana Jailer(AKA: The Rat)

TijuanaJailer said...

(I was wondering if you'd ever heard of a guy named Vincent Jackson.)

No information on this person, sorry.

Anonymous said...

THis will be interesting, it is done by a British Documentary Film Maker so it might not be slanted too far toward LE aspects of the case..... I hear that he will have some stuff on the working relationship with La eMe...


Channel 4 Commissions Aryan Brotherhood Documentary
12/01/05

Danny Cohen, commissioning editor, Channel 4 documentary department, has commissioned Aryan Brotherhood, an extraordinary longitudinal access film from Leopard Films.

Leopard Films have secured exclusive access to a young US attorney who, backed by the FBI, police and U.S. prison service, is attempting to convict the Aryan Brotherhood, a secret network of lifers in jails that rule the prison system with murder and violence.

Assistant DA Jessner is currently seeking to break the clan by calling for 23 simultaneous death penalties - the largest ever in American legal history. This film reveals the complex secret codes, videotapes and forensic clues leading to next year's landmark trials of what Jessner calls "the most murderous criminal organisation in the United States".

This 1 x 60 min documentary will be directed by Emmy award-winner Jeremy Marre and executive produced by James Burstall.

The film is co-commissioned by Danny Cohen in the Channel 4 documentary department and Court TV in the USA.

RetiredJoker said...

How can TJ be a rata when all the names he drops have either died or already been convicted of those crimes and are a matter of "public record"?
Now there are some other "Anonymous" posters on here that drop names of people who are currently in the mix.
And if any of you fools think that LE doesn't pay a least a little attention here you are sadly mistaken. Trust me, if they wanted too, they can track you down by your IP address if the feds were to get involed.
So keep this blog as it is, people exchanging ideas and opinions, while others soak up the info for their menta.
As far a BMLS stands for. Its Barrio Mas Locos.
Question about the Greenlight on Chinos... is that greenlight in the pinta and on the streets? And how does it effect the streets? There not many asian gangs in East Los but in areas like Long Beach, OC and San Gabriel Valley there are quite a few ones.
Cambodian Crips in Long Beach are big as well as TRG (Tiny Rascal Gang) in OC and San Gabriel.

nondescriptfriend said...

Regarding Frank,
anonymous, if you find any them pics of Frank Forgione, my email is seasidewino@hotmail.com. i got some pics i can swap with you. mucho respecto, gracias.

R2K said...

Thats funny as hell :)

R2000

Anonymous said...

Russian teens!

Anonymous said...

Retired Joker,

I've read some of your past comments and I can see you're from San Jose. Have you ever heard of a Vincent Jackson from Sacra? He was a big time dealer in Norte, and played cat and mouse with the cops for years. They finally nailed him a couple of years ago. It was a huge story in the Sacramento Bee. Did his name ever pop up in San Jo?

RetiredJoker said...

When I was in the mix, it was the early to mid 90's and no, the name doesn't ring a bell.
I know there was a lot going down In Stocktone at the time, since NF moved most of thier business out there since San Jo was getting too hot, but I don't think he was ever involved outide of Sac Town or at least I never heard of him. Sorry, Holmes.

Anonymous said...

What does 5150 mean?????

Anonymous said...

condado naraja little homie.

StillNoScript said...

Anonymous,

I went to high school with some guys from Centro Sacra, but never heard of Vincent until that Bee article. They apparantly kept him on the hush.

That article played him up to be the Godfather of that neighborhood, which had me thinking; Either the article eggarerated, or he had the younger homies in check. Cause I had classes and played football with some Mexican dudes who were from the Zapata Park area in downtown, in the heart of Centro turf. They never mentioned him. Then again, all I ever talked about with those dudes was parties and girls. They didn't talk shop with me. lol.

Good luck with the book. Keep me posted.

Anonymous said...

has anybody heard about of adrian zapata from echo park?

Anonymous said...

chente was devil himself

Anonymous said...

[MONGOL - MANIA .. Continued]

Anonymous said...
Hey Mongols!! Know you know the truth! Dic has been telling you that the problem between you and th eme was dying down and he was taking care of it! You never believed he was paying did you? You heard the rumors all along but you didn't belive it! Well it is true, the world know about it and you thought that asshole was telling the truth! He is paying to save his own ass because he is doing dirty business and making money off you. Look in mirror and ask yourself! why do I allows a man who runs when shit happens to control me! I challenge anyone in your club to stand up and ask him what is going on? he paid for stepping on toes!! not because the eme wanted to tax you!! How much money has he shared with you? NOTHING! How much money did he collect taxing your own? How much did he share with you? NOTHING! Rumor has it he has shown bitches aot of money, thousands of dollars of your money in his safe to impress them. The vehicles he has, you paid for them. People around him know it! ow much did you get when he sold them? NOTHING! He lives off the hog! Yet when you guys pai those dues and you could not afford it! what id he say? Fuck you Me & my want the money!! When you guys go on runs, who pays for your room! That's right! you do! Who pays fo his? You! When your own, what does he give you? Thats right! NOTHING! Wake the FUCK UP! stop being afraid of him!! Your in danger of getting killed by people who used to be like familia for Him! He is a legend in his own mind! He braggs about what he does for you while making money off you guys!! Be men again!! The guys a bitch!

8:59 AM

Anonymous said...

Rumor has it he has shown bitches aot of money, thousands of dollars of your money in his safe to impress them.

how do you know what he shows people and why rat him out like that, im not a supporter but sounds like you like to air peoples laundery

Anonymous said...

"OH SHIT! Now that is something to read! Homeboy just put it out there for your ASS!
Where is that faggot ass snorte talking about he loves the mayates so muchy, you fuckin civilian."

Hey Nutty Side Longo, Im giving you and the blog here the respect and maturity you asked for. So please check this wannabe sureno mocoso as he attempting to ruin the blog. He doesn't seem to understand that when he disrespects, he gets disrespected in return and makes the sur name look bad.

Anonymous said...

Its trip no one seems to care about the biggest death row case in US History. There should be more publicity regarding the AB death penalty trials if for nothing else than to insure they get a fair shake. Well, it just goes to show even the Aryans in prison are looked upon as blacks by the establishment.

Anonymous said...

whats the hardest federal prison to do time at? which one kicks up the most dust

Anonymous said...

the one in north carolina

Anonymous said...

The SHU In Pelican Bay.

Anonymous said...

The Bay SHU is not a Federal Prison.

Anonymous said...

what an idiot, my homie is doing fed time in north carolina he said shit jumps off all the time with raza vs. cubano's and puerto ricans and the mayates

Anonymous said...

Florence, CO., and Terra Huate , ID., have reps as hard pintas.
The state pen shu's have reps as being hard but shit dopesn't pop off therebecause everyone is locked down. Is Florence a lockdown facility?

Anonymous said...

Lancaster overcrowding.

Anonymous said...

This sez it all...

"raza vs. cubano's and puerto ricans and the mayates"

Mayates make such good friends, eh?

Y yo pensaba que los gabachos eran malos. Yo preferia tener los gabachos en mi lado que los pinches mayates.

Lo unico que necesitamos es tener los salvadorenos o centro americanos arreglarse con los mayates.

Surenos and Alice Baker at the very
LEAST know every BRICK that alliance
all around them require.

Bricks=Foundation.

Grounded in familia, & cameradas.

curious suburbanite said...

Hey Sancha

The graveyard scene in American Me looks like Evergreen Cemetary between Cesar Chavez and First

Anonymous said...

notice all the other towns are mostly black populated towns too



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