Thursday, September 29, 2005

BOXER APPEARS ON THE BBC
A friend just sent me this from the BBC (British Boradcasting Co.) It seems they've been running a series called "I CHALLENGE" that examines individuals who have challenged authority. I'm running the whole story to save you from clicking over and maybe not being able to access it. Nothing most of us didn't already know, but it's worth a read anyway. Especially the part about retaliation on families. You might even call it rat-alietion. Bad joke, I know.

BBC September 27, 2005
As part of the "I Challenge" series looking at individuals who have challenged authority around the world, Rene Enriquez - a former leading member of the Mexican Mafia, a notorious US prison gang - tells the BBC about his experiences as a Mafioso and his decision to quit the organization.
Rene rose to the highest ranks of the Mexican Mafia In an old arrest photograph, Rene Enriquez stands defiantly, his criminal history boldly stamped across his torso.
One tattoo on his chest shouts for attention. It's a black hand, symbol of one of America's most violent gangs, the Mexican Mafia.
Rene, 43, formerly known as Boxer and once ranked as a Mexican Mafia "Godfather", is serving several life sentences for killings committed in the name of the gang.
For nearly 20 years, nothing stopped Rene in his climb from street thug to top leader in the Mexican Mafia.
He killed men and ordered hits, ran elaborate drug rings, laundered money, and mobilized thousands of Latino street gang members for battle.
Remarkably, Rene committed many of these crimes while serving a life sentence in one of America's most fearsome "Supermax" prisons using complex systems of communication and subterfuge.
But after years of this way of life, he began to question what he was doing.
"I was a leading member of the Mexican Mafia until one day, I decided that I'd had enough," he explains. "I decided to defect."

The Mexican Mafia is one of the "big five" prison gangs that turned California's criminal justice system on its head, operating with near-impunity behind bars.
California runs America's largest prison system, with more than 160,000 inmates. For years gangs controlled drug sales, extortion and other criminal networks in prisons.
US prison gangs operate with near impunity behind bars "You were immediately elevated in your position in your neighborhood once you got out of prison," says Rene, who joined the gang in his late teens.
"The girls loved you, the guys respected you and you learned a lot in the joint. It's crazy, but that's the way it is."
He says he became addicted to the violence.
"The more notches you have on your belt, the more ferocity people see you as possessing, and the greater you become."
As tough sentencing laws packed the prisons, the gangs grew larger. So they looked to the streets to increase power and profits.
California responded by confining gang leaders like Rene in harsh isolation. For 13 years he was locked down, alone, in a windowless cell with only an hour of solitary exercise in a concrete pen.
"Killing Boxer off was the hardest part. That's all I ever knew. That's who I was." But instead of being "broken", Rene deepened his commitment to the gang. He learned complex secret codes to communicate with other members and on the streets.
He adopted the gang's punishing exercise routine and plunged into study, reading hundreds of books on philosophy, leadership, modern corporations and military history.
He learned how to harness the power of fear under the most extreme conditions. But life in solitary took its toll. The gang descended into internal strife.
Exhausted, Rene says the final straw came when some members proposed widening the war against rivals by targeting their families.
"That's when I knew it was time to leave," he says. But killing "Boxer" off was the hardest part. That's all I ever knew. That's who I was".
"I was ashamed of leaving the organization, something that I've killed for, dedicated my life to. Twenty years of my adult life, and I'm walking away from it."

In gang culture, defection is the ultimate disloyalty and anyone who leaves risks being killed by other members of the gang.

"[Rene] has become their number one priority. They want him dead for what he's done," says Gang investigator Robert Marquez. To get out of the Supermax, Rene was forced to betray his comrades and reveal the gang's innermost secrets to authorities in a thorough de-briefing process.
Rene's information proved vital in prosecutions of top Mexican Mafia members, in understanding how the gang infiltrated other organizations, and manipulated the prison system's rules.
But it also put him on the gang's hit list.
"He has become their number one priority," says gang investigator Robert Marquez, of the California Department of Corrections. "If ever they get a chance, they want him dead for what he's done."
He now lives in Lancaster State Prison, a special unit north of Los Angeles in the Mojave Desert designed to protect gang defectors from retaliation.
He runs a prisoner outreach group to educate children about the realities of gang membership and helps the authorities increase their knowledge of the Mexican Mafia.
Rene's hopes are focused on making parole. But redemption is a daunting task, given his bloody history.

"The reality is that I believe that I will die here," he says. "I believe that I will never get out." END OF BBC STORY.

The most interesting thing to me about this article is the reference to killing people's families. Traditionally, my understanding is that's been taboo. I'm not sure if Boxer's statement ushers in a new policy or if it was just talk that never evolved into policy. There have been instances where family members were taken out, but that's been the exception rather than the rule. Thoughts anyone?

82 comments:

TijuanaJailer said...

The Link is:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4261004.stm

Anonymous said...

Is your name really Wally... your parents must've hated your ass! My thought... Boxer is a wetback, and this article was stupid! Advice for you... change your name!

Anonymous said...

Its always been that unwritten law that you dont involves people's familia, but now days they are getting sloppy out here on the street more lawless and more disrespectful, i dont know

Anonymous said...

Is your name really Wally... your parents must've hated your ass! My thought... Boxer is a wetback, and this article was stupid! Advice for you... change your name

to the pendejo that posted this, if you hate chicanos get the fuck off a chicano website, or better yet go tell off a chicano, sounds like your parents are white trash to me i could imagine what kind of hillbilly you are billybob

Anonymous said...

LMAO... Wally's blogspot is a "Chicano" website? Typical Wetback response, haha! Get the fuck on home skillet... you're frustration is leading you astray... if you only knew who was writing this pendejo... *hint*, I'm not white dumb fuck... quit being a rata punk ass lame!

Anonymous said...

pendejo proves it doesnt matter what race you are you can still be an asshole

Anonymous said...

Sounds like more farmeros

Anonymous said...

More like a fool than a asshole

Anonymous said...

back to the blog how do you think boxer is living and what about targeting families

home depot said...

who was the most recent member who debriefed then was elimated?

TijuanaJailer said...

There's a saying in sports that goes thusly: records are made to be broken.

With the EME, there are "unwritten rules" that they adhere to in general:

1)do not target law enforcement;
2)do not hit innocent bystanders;
3)do not go after a target's
family member(s);
4)do not recruit an EME member's
family member without first
checking with the made member
first (the one related to the
recruit being considered).

There are more but if there is one thing you learn along the way is that "rules are made to be broken" and you are never surprised when someone does something against the "unwritten rules".

The obvious problem with going after family members is (like going after straight cops) obvious: it generates unwanted heat. A dirty cop is another story because (in our definition) he is NOT a cop anymore!

The EME does not desire this unwanted heat. Neither would they want their family members targeted for retaliation hits from the dropouts or enemies they would be seeking to hurt.

Furthermore, most of them have a weird sense of "scruples". They are "respectful" of religious people and churches, especially those of the Christian persuasion.
They all received a generous dose of Christianity and Catholicism when they were being reared in their communities.

They prefer to "isolate" their targets whenever possible in order to a)make certain that they hit the right target and b)eliminate "collateral damage" (as one former EME once said).

The deterrent factor of hitting a person's family or the threat of the same would likely generate more antagonism from their sureno "constituents" than what they would have to gain.

In El Monte, Raymond "Huero" Shryock ordered the execution of "Dido" Moreno, an EME member who had fallen from grace. When the dust cleared, several innocent people (including 2 infants)were taken out.

This overkill was NOT what Huero Shy had in mind and NOT what he had instructed these gang members to do. But it happened and this is an example of another "exception to the unwritten rule".

But, we are in the 21st century and the younger vatos seem determined to maybe carve their unique niche in their criminal life.

In their pursuit of "outperforming"
their predecessers we cannot place our limitations on what these characters will and will not do.

In their crazy world it's "what have you done for the EME lately". The demonstration of their continued loyalty to their brotherhood is expressed in the ultimate criminal deed: Murder. In their way of looking at it, the more you kill for the EME, the more you demonstrate your loyalty.

"Raising the bar" may or may not include criminal deeds that previously were considered taboo - who knows?

If an EME member were to blow away two L.A.S.O. deputies - a "violation" of their unwritten rules - do you think they would hit one of their own? NOT. They would probably congratulate him ("Good job, carnal") and maybe discourage him from making this a habit (hitting cops) and life goes on.

So, a cop; an innocent bystander; a family member of an EME target; can never rest with any certain security that the EME would not violate an "unwritten rule".

There are NO consequences for a made member violating an unwritten rule. If an EME member violates a "written rule" then he can be executed by his carnales.

Showing weakness, politicking vs. another bro, not carrying out an assignment, assaulting another brother, placing a carnal in danger by blatant and unconcerned negligence, banging another brother's wife/girl without his permission (smile), are examples of rules that EME has pretty much etched in stone in which, violation of any of these, can result in immediate execution.

So, in concluding, I would simply advise any family who stands to potentially suffer the EME's wrath due to what a relative has done or intends to do (such as "turn", testify against, etc.), I would NEVER advise them that the EME would not target them. I would ALWAYS proceed as if they would in fact become EME victims. I would not gamble with your life/lives and I don't think you would wish to gamble with your loved one's lives either.

Peace ........

Tijuana Jailer

Anonymous said...

once again TJJ you have graced us with your knowledge

Anonymous said...

And once again... you suck cock!

Anonymous said...

And once again... you suck cock!

to the liitle boy whos been letting us know how old you are, stop f@#$ing up the site

Anonymous said...

anyways, so what do you think the qualifications are now days to become a full pledge member, just raise your hand and do some dirt is that it? is there any rituals involved?

Anonymous said...

to the liitle boy whos been letting us know how old you are, stop f@#$ing up the site

How bout you stop letting us know how much you love sucking cock!

And stupid ass... you mean "Full Fledge" member. Fuck all these dumb ass lames that try to come off educated... fucken rata's.

CONEX said...

someone needs to remove this immature kid off the blog please....

CONEX said...

someone need to remove this immature kid off the blog quick hes getting on my nerves real fast...

Anonymous said...

Is your name really Wally... your parents must've hated your ass! My thought... Boxer is a wetback, and this article was stupid! Advice for you... change your name!

to the lame who doesnt know how to spell "must of", kick rocks bitch

Anonymous said...

I CAN SEE THIS HAPPENING MORE OFTEN AS IT ALREADY HAS , THOSE OF US WHO REMEMBER TONITO FROM ESR AND SMILON FROM BH KNOW THAT THE EME IS CAPABLE OF DOING BODILY HARM TO FAMILIES OF WANTED MEN CAUSE THATS WHAT THESE VATOS WERE DOING IN THERE OWN HOODS AT THE TIME , IF YOU WERE THERE YOU KNOW WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT, IN THAT CASE YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE REAL CLOSE TO ONE OF THESE HOODS, REMEMBER BEFORE THEY KILLED TONITO THEY USED TO CALL HIM TOMATE ? DOES ANYONE REMEMBER WHY ? I DO BUT I JUST WANT TO SEE IF ANYONE REALLY KNEW HIM THAT GOOD OR WAS FROM THE HOOD..

Anonymous said...

HEY WALLY HAVE ARE YOU EVER GOING TO BLOG MORE ABOUT THE OLD AVES LIKE HALFMAN,JELLYBEAN JOE ,BLACK BOB IT BRINGS UP OLD MEMORIES, I STILL GOT OLD 45 RECORDS WITH THE LIL AVES PLACASOS THAT WAS THE OG NAME BACK THEN WHEN MOST OF THE HOOD WAS WHITE..

lil smokes said...

PURO WHITE FENCE GANG!

Anonymous said...

I read this in a article regarding the AB,in the article they touch on a attack on a inmate by a EME brother for talking shit about the AB. Does the AB back the EME up on the same level? Here is a bit of the article:

The case, due to its complexity and also because all the defendants cannot be held safely in one courtroom, will encompass four or five trials spread out across seven Southern California counties over the next couple years. The first seven defendants who will make their pleas this month in Orange County face non-capital RICO charges. One, Joseph Principe, is a former guard at a federal “Supermax” prison who allegedly arranged for the gang’s leaders to meet unobserved to discuss their affairs. Manuel “Larry” Jackson, a reputed member of the Mexican Mafia, allegedly beat and stabbed another inmate to within an inch of his life for merely making disparaging comments about the AB.

Anonymous said...

I remeber this that vato was talking shit about the ab and eme

Anonymous said...

anybody ever hear abbout a vato named cruz "boo" or "dumdo" from 22nd st

Don Quixote said...

Orale Tijuas, another great blog as usual but being a cynical vato I found one of your statements a little nebulous " A dirty cop is another story because (in our definition he is Not a cop anymore)" Hmm, whats your definiton consist of? What are your unofficial "reglas"? I'm not being critical just curious, as over the years my experience with the Juda leads me to believe that you guys bend the rules all the time if need be, so are you saying that only a Rampart Division Renegade taking feria on the side and doing hits is crooked? I understand the way the world goes around,when I was a kid in Lincoln Hts there was a cop called "Indio" who I'm sure is still remembered by many.(A cop told me he was called Indio because he stabbed some vato in a bar in Boyle Hts. one time just for GP's) but Indio when he busted us young gangsters, would always stop on the way from the old Highland Park Station to Georgia St. or Juvie up on "flatop" and with his homies would take us out of the squad car and say "allright you tough guys whose going to talk! Then he would always hone in on the weak link, I remember one of the guys I was with one time after Indio slapped him up against the car yelling "I did it,I did it!" I'm not whinning as we probably deserved what we got, and besides it was good training for us,learning to keep your mouth shut no matter what. But I also can recall an old tough cop I knew later in life who when commenting on a famous police brutality case in the 50's where a chicano put a cops eye out during a brawl, then had his ass beat all the way up the city hall steps 25 story's so bad that another cop ratted, who said to me "that fucking snitch, shit the first thing we were taught in the academy was that even if you have the city hall sticking out of your asshole you deny, deny, deny!

Anonymous said...

Whats up with all these drop outs coming out of the woodwork to go on t.v and try and make a quick buck? Sounds like the some of the Raza is starting to act like mayates. Before, when someone dropped, they went into hiding or Victory Outreach, or got their cover blown and were killed. Now, vatos are running to publishers, law enforcement, t.v stations trying to sell their identity and past reputations for the "almighty" dollar. Damn shame. That's what mayates do. People like Kody Scott aka Monster, this other mayate from harlem 30's, hit the pinta and write a book telling of their war stories. Then they want to come out and preach and be recognized for being a gangster. It's a fucken joke. To all the drop outs, tax free's, traitors, has beens, etc, keep this shit in house. We aren't niggers and we don't need to be acting like them. Niggers sell their soul for a dollar and are the biggest fucken rats out there. They are the quickest ones to brag about banging and shitting in their own hoods. But they want that dollar and they'll do just about anything for it. Sounds like these drop-outs are on the same path. If the Raza really aspires to be a mayate, then start wearing your boxers backwards and say cuzz when you hit county. You'll be on your way. Then you can write a book about being bitch slapped and being some terones bitch. Serio young bucks, keep your mouth shut and handle your buisness. But's that's just my opinion. NS Long Beach~Uptown Locos~Baby Gangsters!!

TijuanaJailer said...

[as over the years my experience with the Juda leads me to believe that you guys bend the rules all the time if need be]

In referring to:

"A dirty cop is another story because (in our definition) he is NOT a cop anymore! .....

I'm specifically talking about a cop who is "in bed" with the bad guys. If, for example, I'm involved in criminal activity with the Mob (a dirty cop) and I "piss backwards" on them, then I deserve to be hit by the EME and this "don't hit cops" unwritten rule would not apply to me since I did them wrong and chose to play by their rules.

I agree that many cops do bend the rules in what we do but that's life in the Big City and we simply do what we do. If I think you have drugs in your car and I pull you over for a "faulty tail light" (even though your taillight is NOT faulty) and find drugs, I'm pleased to book you.

If I don't find drugs, I send you on your merry way. If I get caught making up this faulty tail light reason for stopping you, then shame on me. If I get away with it then life goes on; no blood, no foul.

Yes, DQ, it happens all the time in various ways and you know that's the "real" world.

Peace .........

Tijuana Jailer

Anonymous said...

TO THE VATO FROM LONGO YOU ARE SO RIGHT SOME OF THE HOMIES ARE STARTING TO ACT LIKE MAYATES,THEY START TO BELIEVE IN JESUS ONCE THEY HIT THE PINTA.

Anonymous said...

SO YOUR SAYIN YOUR FROM SERENO?
OR YOUR TRYING TO MAKE A POINT?
WICH IS IT?

Anonymous said...

I AM FROM SERENO AND YES I AM ASHAMED OF ALL MY CRACK HEAD HOMIES LIKE GUARDIA STREET ITHACA STREET AND THE DUMB LOPS FROM LOCKE STREET STONERS WHICH WE CANT EVEN REGULATE..,

Anonymous said...

WHAT ABOUT ALL OUR VETERANOS THAT HANG AROUND THE LIQUOR ON EASTERN AND AT MICKEYS , ALL THEY DO ALL DAY IS BUMM FOR FERIA QUE NO. WHAT A DISGRACE TO THE VARRIO..

Anonymous said...

ORALE!! BIG FUKN HUEVOS QUE NO! YOU GOT A PROBLEM WITH THE VARRIO?
WELL THEN TAKE A STAND ESE!! BESIDES HOMER...I BET YOU WON'T EVEN SAY WHO YOU ARE FOOL,YOU WANT TO TALK ALL THAT CRAP?..WELL GO AHEAD!!TALK ABOUT DISGRACE!!! YOUR JUST A FUKN DROP OUT THAT DON'T KNOW SHIT!!IF ANYTHING YOUR THE ONE THATS CRACKED OUT,BESIDES THE OLDER CROWD THAT BEGS FOR FERIA PROBABLY HAVE MORE STRIPES THAN YOU!!!AND WHY SHOULD SERENO REGULATE ANYONE FROM LOCKE ST.STONERS!!SOME ARE FROM THE HOOD YOU DUMB FUCK!!AND THE REST DON'T EVEN CLAIM IT ANYMORE!!SO SHUT THE FUCK UP!!YOUR A DISGRACE!! THE HOMIES MUST OF PUT A SLUG IN YOU,RIGHT? SO STEP YOUR GAME UP!!
PUT YOUR PLACASO UP FOOL!!
YEAH THAT'S RIGHT YOU WON'T!!!!
HEY EVERYBODY!!THIS FOOL WANTS TO TALK SHIT!!BUT HE WON'T PUT HIS NAME BEHIND IT!! FUCKEN CHAVALA!!
SHUT THE FUCK UP!!! AND PUT YOUR NAME UP!! HEY HOMER, PUT YOUR NAME!! YUP YOU WON'T!! LOL!
AND I DON'T EVEN BANG!! AND I KNOW MORE THAN YOU!!! YOU SHOULD HAVE SHAME ALRIGHT!!

Anonymous said...

SAY MY PLACASO , R U A FOOL OR WHAT ? LIKE YOU SAID YOU DONT EVEN BANG SO WHY DO YOU EVEN WANT TO KNOW MY NAME ? SO YOU CAN GO AND PULL RATA TO EARN SUM STRIPES OR WHAT, JUST CAUSE IM DISGRACED BY ALL MY HOMIE CRACKHEADS AND TECATOS IN THE VARRIO DONT MEAN IM GOING TO DROP OUT IT JUST MEANS IM PROBABLY THE ONLY ONE DOING WORK FOOL AT LEAST I GOT ENOUGH PRIDE IN MY VARRIO TO IRON AND CREASE MY TRAMOUS AND SHINE MY CALCOS FOOL,YEAH IF YOU EVER BANGED THEN YOU PROBABLY KNOW ME I HUNG OUT WITH BOY, STONEY, UP ON RANDOLPH TILL THEY PASSED AWAY AND THEN I HUNG OUT AT THE DITCH TILL THAT SHIT DIED OUT NOW LOOK AT THE VARRIO YOU GOT ITHACA STREET TALKING SHIT ABOUT LOCKE WHEN THEY ARE ALONE ON FRIDAYS THEN YOU GOT THE STONERS BACK STABBING US WITH ROSE HILLS FOOL, AND GUARDIA DOES THERE OWN THING AND IS EVENTUALLY GONNA TAKE OVER LOCKE STREET, SO WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE AND GET THOSE LOWLIFE HOMIES IN SHAPE IF YOU CARE ABOUT THEM SOO MUCH..

Anonymous said...

Someone mentioned Tonito. I remember him as a collector for PeeWee. I think he was using some of the money he collected on his rides and that's why he got wacked. Don't forget Tonito never hit the pen. (Still Cherry). I wonder why he never hit state prison........

Anonymous said...

tonito from sereno was wacked,by lowell,use to be a click from sereno,untill they wacked the big homie,thats why they are green lighters,but they are all clicked up with the mongols now,ant they still putting it up,mayor out of state dope dealers,rolling in money.met them about a week ago.....panson...florida bikers......

Anonymous said...

FOOL WHAT THE FUK YOU TALKIN ABOUT!LISTEN HOMER...THOSE LIL VATOS FROM THE STONERS THAT GOT INTO THE ROACHES WEREN'T BACK STABBING NOBODY! IF YOU SOCALL STILL CREASE YOUR CHONIES,YOU'D KNOW A CERTAIN HOMIE,WAS TO BLAME FOR THAT!! AND ITHACA DON'T TALK SHIT ABOUT LOCKE!
THEM FOOLS BE UP THERE WITH THEM ALL THE TIME!!AND GUARDIA WILL STILL PUT IT DOWN,AS ITHACA,AND THE OIGINALS! LOCKE STREET BABY!!
THE HOMIES MAY NOT BE AS ACTIVE AS THEY ONCE WERE,BUT WHEN PUSHED THEY STAND UP,YOU MUST HAVE A GRUDGE WITH SERENO,CAUSE YOU SOUND JUST LIKE THESE G.E.D.'S,JUST STARTING SHIT,TRYING TO PUT TENSION BETWEEN LOCKE ST,ITHACA,AND GUARDIA,BUT GUESS WHAT IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN! EVERYONE IS UNDER THE SAME FLAGSHIP,
SERENO!!! EVERYBODY WILL FIGHT AND SHOOT AT ONE ANOTHER ONCE IN A WHILE,DUE TO THE FACT THAT GUYS LIKE YOU AND THE G.E.D.'S(GANG ENFORCEMENT DETAIL)WICH IS THE POLICE,GET REAL PERSONAL WITH EVERYBODY,THEY GO TO GUARDIA AND TELL THEM THAT ITHACA THIS AND LOCKE THAT,THEN THEY GO TO THE OTHER SIDE AND DO THE SAME,STIR SHIT UP.COPS SAY EVERYONE'S GOING AT IT WITH EACH OTHER,IT'S STUPID!!THEY WANT TO MAKE IT SEEM THAT WAY SO THAT THEY DON'T GET SENT TO WHERE THERE'S A REAL GANG PROBLEM!!
CAUSE IN SERENO,NOTHINS BEEN POPPIN SINCE A YEAR AND A HALF,BACK THEN SERENO WAS GETTIN LIT UP EVERY OTHER DAY!..WHERE WAS THE POLICE?THEY SHOULD CHECK THE REPORTS AT THE HOSPITAL OF WHO GOT SHOT AND WHERE!BUT NOTHINS POPPIN NOW AND THEY WANT TO MASH ON EVERYONE?THAT'S STUPID!!JUST LIKE YOU!!STRIRRING SHIT UP!!YOUR TALKING OUT OF YOUR ASS HOMER!AND BOY DIED ALONG TIME AGO! WAY BEFORE STONEY!!SO DON'T USE THEIR NAME IN HERE!!THERES NO NEED FOR THAT!IF YOU WANT TO PROVE YOUR POINT STATE YOUR NAME!OR TAKE A STAND!!!!SOMEBODY HAS A GRUDGE!!LOL!CAUSE IF YOU DIDN'T YOU WOULDN'T BE PUTTIN YOUR VARRIO ON BLAST!! AND ABOUT TONITO,HE NEVER HIT THE PEN,ONLY THE COUNTY FOR A FEW DAYS,AND IT IS WHAT IT IS,BUT LOWELL ALREADY HAD THE GREEN FOR BEING IDIOTS,BEFORE TONITOS PASSING,SO DON'T GIVE THEM CREDIT FOR SHIT!!LOWELL KICKS IT WITH THE MONGOLS,SO DO OTHER DROP OUTS,LOWELL IS NO MORE!!THEY DRIVE AROUND IN THEIR TRUCK FOLLOWING THE BIKERS,THEN THEY GET OFF AND PUT ON THEIR MONGOL VEST!LOL!!YOU GUYS GOTTA SEE THAT SHIT!!!
WELL ANYWAYS,STATE YOUR NAME OR DON'T SAY NOTHIN AT ALL,YOU WANT TO SAY YOUR ASHAMED OF YOUR HOOD,WELL MAYBE YOU ARE,..BUT DON'T PUT IT ON THE NET!THIS ISN'T THE PLACE,YOUR ASHAMED CAUSE YOU HAVE A GRUDGE,IF NOT CAUSE YOU CARE,AND IF YOU CARE,DON'T FRONT OFF YOUR VARRIO,TAKE A STAND,YOU SAID YOUR PROBABLY THE ONLY ONE PUTTING IN WORK!!RIGHT?...SO RAISE YOUR HAND!!..NICE AND HIGH!!
THAT'S IF YOUR SURE!!
SO DON'T CRY OR WHINE,
LEAD BY EXAMPLE!

Anonymous said...

good comment anon, many shit stirrers dropping names on peeps and talkin masa on chit they think they know about..

Anonymous said...

yeah that guy don't know shit,i also live in sereno,everybody is cool with one another,they won't trip on each other,they don't even go trippin on their enemies,as long as you don't come to sereno starting,it will be all cool,they don't trip,but their not punks either,many varrios tried to set trip and move in,but it never worked,cause when push comes to shove,sereno always wins! i've seen it many times!so that drop out thats scared to put his name shouldn't put sereno out there like that,he must have something against someone from sereno,he should settle it with him,and not with the internet, that guy is dry snitching!he shouldn't even mention
that varrio any more!! technology
is a mother fucker!

Anonymous said...

Hi! My name is Sapato from Sereno. I love my Varrio, we are united killers... if you come set trippin... we will blast your ass into outerspace. We are Cyber Gangsters from the year 2013, we talk the talk, and sometimes walk the walk... only when push comes to shove, otherwise... we're a friendly hood. You should come visit, take a tour through the city... you'll see what I'm talking about. Hope to see you soon 'ey! Gooooo Sereno!!!

Anonymous said...

LOL!!...EL SAPATO!!!EL SAPATO APESTOSO!!! PINCHE NINO!!! LOL!!

Anonymous said...

That's right... I am the Nino... the mutha fucken godfather from Sereno. I will blast you back to yo mama's mama's pussy. We love to gang bang so don't try and act cool. I am a killer... I will kill this blog.

Anonymous said...

SOUNDS LIKE SKRILLA!!!!

Anonymous said...

SERENO LOCKE AINT SHIT THATS WHY METRO IS TAKING OVER THERE VARRIO ON THE STOCKBRIDGE SIDE , THEY CANT EVEN PROTECT THERE OWN CARNAL TONITO WHO GOT DOWNED BY LOWELL IN THE HEART OF THERE VARRIO IN BROAD DAYLIGHT , NOW WHAT FOOL.. GREENLIGHT FOREVER QUERIFA...

Anonymous said...

LOL!!! YOU DUM ASS!WHAT METRO? FOOL!! TONITO DIED BACK IN THE MID NINETIES!! SO SHUT THE FUCK UP! SCREW YOU AND YOUR WANNA BE LOWELL CLIQUE..FAKE AS BIKERS!! LOL!! AND AS FOR METRO THEY HAVEN'T TOOKIN OVER SHIT YOU FUCKEN LOOSER!! AHAHA!!! YOUR PROBABLY JUST A WANNA BE!!! HEARING SECOND HAND STORIES!!! I KNOW THE FOOLS FROM METRO,AND THEY HAVEN'T TAKEN OVER SHIT,JUST CAUSE ON LIVES IN EL SERENO?...AHAHAAA!! GET A LIFE LOOSER...LOWELL ISN'T TAX-FREE!! THEY PAY TO THE BIG DIC FROM THE MONGOLS!!!LOL!! YOU MORON!!!
AND STOP USING PEOPLES NAMES!!ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THEM!! YOUR INFORMATION IS ALL SCREWED UP!!
JUST LIKE YOUR SEXUALLITY ON A TUESDAY NIGHT!!LOL!! RIDE ON GREENLIGHTER!!! BORN TO WILD!! LOL!! VIVA MEXICO CABRONES!!

Anonymous said...

ISN'T THAT WHY YOUR A GREEN LIGHTER! BECAUSE YOU COULDN'T RIFAR
TO BEGIN WITH...LOL!!! HE CAN'T EVEN SPELL..HE PUT THERE INSTEAD OF THEIR..ILLITERATE!!!DAM CRYBABIES!! GO SIT IN THE BACK OF THAT HARLEY,HOLD ON TIGHT TO YOUR MONGOL!!BA BA BAD TO THE BONE!!!!

Anonymous said...

Boxer made that move when he was given a hot shot in the County, he was on a walker for months... He knew he was in the hat and made that move pure and simple. The old " I DO'd when they started going after families is Bullarky.Every one says that, the truth is he knew he was going to get got. I think it was over something with Quate from La Rana, but not sure.....

Anonymous said...

BOXER A WETBACK? HA HA, I'VE KNOWN HIM SINCE HE WAS A CHAVALO. HE WAS A HOMIE FROM ARTESIA'13 (CALIFAS)... BET YOU WONT CALL HIM A WETBACK FACE TO FACE...LOL.

Anonymous said...

ISN'T THAT WHY YOUR A GREEN LIGHTER! BECAUSE YOU COULDN'T RIFAR
TO BEGIN WITH...LOL!!! HE CAN'T EVEN SPELL..HE PUT THERE INSTEAD OF THEIR..ILLITERATE!!!DAM CRYBABIES!! GO SIT IN THE BACK OF THAT HARLEY,HOLD ON TIGHT TO YOUR MONGOL!!BA BA BAD TO THE BONE!!!!


Whats funny about this post? Oh yeah, he calls out someone for not being able to spell yet spells the word "damn" like this..."dam".

Anonymous said...

I WAS USING "DAMN" IN A SLANG TERM "DAM" SO EXCUSE ME FOR BEING DUM!...I STAND CORRECTED! :)
BUT SAME SHIT!...DIFFERENT SMELL!!

Anonymous said...

ISN'T THAT WHY YOUR A GREEN LIGHTER! BECAUSE YOU COULDN'T RIFAR
TO BEGIN WITH...LOL!!! HE CAN'T EVEN SPELL..HE PUT THERE INSTEAD OF THEIR..ILLITERATE!!!DAM CRYBABIES!! GO SIT IN THE BACK OF THAT HARLEY,HOLD ON TIGHT TO YOUR MONGOL!!BA BA BAD TO THE BONE!!!!


Whats wrong with this post, Part 2...your wrote "your" instead of "you're".

Anonymous said...

ISN'T THAT WHY YOUR A GREEN LIGHTER! BECAUSE YOU COULDN'T RIFAR
TO BEGIN WITH...LOL!!! HE CAN'T EVEN SPELL..HE PUT THERE INSTEAD OF THEIR..ILLITERATE!!!DAM CRYBABIES!! GO SIT IN THE BACK OF THAT HARLEY,HOLD ON TIGHT TO YOUR MONGOL!!BA BA BAD TO THE BONE!!!!


Whats wrong with this post, Part 2...your wrote "your" instead of "you're".

4:13 PM
no dice chino, he had it right

Anonymous said...

ISN'T THAT WHY YOUR A GREEN LIGHTER! BECAUSE YOU COULDN'T RIFAR
TO BEGIN WITH...LOL!!! HE CAN'T EVEN SPELL..HE PUT THERE INSTEAD OF THEIR..ILLITERATE!!!DAM CRYBABIES!! GO SIT IN THE BACK OF THAT HARLEY,HOLD ON TIGHT TO YOUR MONGOL!!BA BA BAD TO THE BONE!!!!

Sorry... whoever posted this should have spelt 'your'... you're... as in 'you are' a green lighter.

No dice back atcha ese!

Anonymous said...

No dice back atcha ese

la raza is bored, here on the blog trolling for dialouge

Anonymous said...

I feel your pain homie! =o)

Anonymous said...

BECAUSE YOU COULDN'T RIFAR


what does this mean?

LOCKE ST STONERS said...

VARRIO LOCKE ST STONERS!!!

Anonymous said...

does anybody here know of any sites like this one that deal with Riverside County

Anonymous said...

LOL!!! THAT SHIT IS FUNNY!
SOME FOOL PUT VARRIO LOCKE SREET STONERS!! THATS NO VARRIO,THE REAL VARRIO IS EL SERENO LOCKE STREET!! ISN'T IT? WELL EVERYONE I KNOW SEEMS TO AGREE!

SERENO said...

I BECAME A CHRISTIAN WHEN I HIT THE STATE, BUT THAT DIDN'T KEEP ME FROM RIDING ON BUSTERS IN WASCO STATE PRISON DURING A RIOT IN 1998. THE HOMIES FROM THE SOUTH WERE MY PRISON BROTHERS, AND UNTIL THIS DAY, EVEN AS A YOUTH COORDINATOR AT MY CHURCH, I HAVE RESPECT FOR THOSE VATOS; NOT FOR WHAT THEY DID TO GET THEMSELVES LOCKED UP, BUT TO HOW THEY TRIED TO KEEP FROM GOING INSANE AFTER YEARS BEHIND BARS. THOSE THAT HAVEN'T BEEN UPSTATE CAN'T RELATE. I THINK THAT ANY DECISION MADE IS CRUCIAL TO HOW YOUR LIFE WILL TURN OUT. THOSE THAT RAISED THEIR HAND TO JOIN THE MAFIA KNEW EXACTLY WHAT THEY WERE GETTING INTO. THOSE THAT CHOSE TO REMAIN IN THE SIDELINES UNLESS THE CRAP HIT THE FAN, LIKE ME, DID SO BECAUSE OF THE HOPE TO ONE DAY HAVE A NORMAL LIFE. TO EACH HIS OWN. COMMITMENT IS THE KEY. DROPPING OUT ISN'T THE ISSUE. IT'S THOSE THAT BEGIN TO SPILL THE BEANS JUST TO MAKE MONEY THAT I CRITIZISE AND LOSE ALL RESPECT FOR. IF YOU'RE GOING TO SHARE YOU'RE EXPERIENCES, SHARE YOUR OWN, AND DO IT TO HELP YOUR COMMUNITY. DON'T START MENTIONING NAMES, OR HOLDING OTHERS AS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MISTAKES YOU MADE. LA "EME" IS FULL OF SCANDALOUS KILLERS? WHAT ORGANIZATION ISN'T? YOU'VE GOT PRIEST MOLESTING AND RAPING KIDS, DOCTORS THAT GO INTO THE SURGERY ROOM STONED OUT OF THEIR MIND, AND COPS KILLING THOSE THEY ARE PAID TO PROTECT. WHO EVER THOUGHT THAT JOINING THE MAFIA WAS GOING TO BE A PIECE OF CAKE, MUST HAVE BEEN RETARDED OR DOPE FEENS WITHOUT A LIFE TO LIVE FOR. ALL OF THESE VATOS COMING OUT OF THE WOODWORK, ACTING LIKE VICTIMS, SHOULD NOT BE REGARDED AS HEROES. THEY WEAR NEVER CUT OUT TO MAKE IT, AND SHOULD HAVE KNOWN WHAT IT WAS THAT THEY WERE GETTING INTO. THOSE THAT DROPPED OUT, BUT TURNED TO GOD TO HELP OTHERS OUT, WITHOUT NAMING NAMES OR GOING TO TRAIL AGAINST THEIR OLD CAMARADAS, I CAN UNDERSTAND. I JUST HOPE THAT THE BIBLE ISN'T JUST A FRONT TO HIDE THEIR WEAKNESS.....BY THE WAY.....MY NICKNAME IS SERENO....I'M NOT FROM THE GANG SERENO (NO DISRESPECT INTENDED...JUST CLEARING THINGS UP)....

Anonymous said...

SERENO said...

I BECAME A CHRISTIAN WHEN I HIT THE STATE, BUT THAT DIDN'T KEEP ME FROM RIDING ON BUSTERS IN WASCO STATE PRISON DURING A RIOT IN 1998.

(I think any Christian can understand that it's not easy to leave the "scene" until a person becomes a mature Christian, which is something you should have mentioned here, Sereno. "Riding on Busters" after "becoming a Christian" does not go hand in hand and I would hope you aren't glorifying this position. Jesus commands us to be either hot OR cold, not having one foot in the "homie scene" and the other in the church house).

THE HOMIES FROM THE SOUTH WERE MY PRISON BROTHERS, AND UNTIL THIS DAY, EVEN AS A YOUTH COORDINATOR AT MY CHURCH, I HAVE RESPECT FOR THOSE VATOS;

(Respect for them or for what they do? Obviously, if you are a youth coordinator involved with your church, you can't respect and condone what a "homie from the south" does. You need to explain yourself, my church going brother because you come across as wanting both worlds)

NOT FOR WHAT THEY DID TO GET THEMSELVES LOCKED UP,

(you just answered my question above!)

BUT TO HOW THEY TRIED TO KEEP FROM GOING INSANE AFTER YEARS BEHIND BARS. THOSE THAT HAVEN'T BEEN UPSTATE CAN'T RELATE. I THINK THAT ANY DECISION MADE IS CRUCIAL TO HOW YOUR LIFE WILL TURN OUT.

THOSE THAT RAISED THEIR HAND TO JOIN THE MAFIA KNEW EXACTLY WHAT THEY WERE GETTING INTO.

(What a statement! What a judgmental statement. In other words, if you make that decision (to join), you should stay put? Why can't a Mafia dude, even a hard core Mafia dude, be able to come to Christ and pull away from that life?)

THOSE THAT CHOSE TO REMAIN IN THE SIDELINES UNLESS THE CRAP HIT THE FAN, LIKE ME, DID SO BECAUSE OF THE HOPE TO ONE DAY HAVE A NORMAL LIFE.

(So you have a separate set of rules for those who were not hard core and those who were? I don't think the God I know would discriminate like that)

TO EACH HIS OWN. COMMITMENT IS THE KEY. DROPPING OUT ISN'T THE ISSUE.

(From Christian Biblical history, it was the worst of the worse -- like Paul -- that He used precisely because of their evil position! They had that much more to be thankful for!)

IT'S THOSE THAT BEGIN TO SPILL THE BEANS JUST TO MAKE MONEY THAT I CRITIZISE AND LOSE ALL RESPECT FOR.

(It isn't your place to criticize or "lose respect for". It's God's call! Spilling the beans can mean many things ...... some view this as a way to make a complete and definite break from that previous lifestyle. By talking, they know they can never go back. You seem to say that "spilling the beans" is not a good thing because of the criminal code???? So you are still thinking like a criminal if you are using the standards of the streets, are you not?).

IF YOU'RE GOING TO SHARE YOU'RE EXPERIENCES, SHARE YOUR OWN, AND DO IT TO HELP YOUR COMMUNITY.

(That's called "witnessing". When you share your experiences you don't honor an underworld code in doing so).

DON'T START MENTIONING NAMES,

(If I didn't know better, this sounds like a threat. I mean, I know it isn't, but what gives you the right to place limitations on someone else?)

OR HOLDING OTHERS AS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MISTAKES YOU MADE.

(So if you and "Juan Lopez" both kill a dude, and both of you get arrested, Juan Lopez should never talk about this because you define this revelation as "holding others responsible for the mistake you made"?? Funny. Sounds very self serving to me, Sereno)

LA "EME" IS FULL OF SCANDALOUS KILLERS? WHAT ORGANIZATION ISN'T?

(So we should NOT talk about molesting priests nor should we talk about murderous prison gang members, correct?)

YOU'VE GOT PRIEST MOLESTING AND RAPING KIDS, DOCTORS THAT GO INTO THE SURGERY ROOM STONED OUT OF THEIR MIND, AND COPS KILLING THOSE THEY ARE PAID TO PROTECT. WHO EVER THOUGHT THAT JOINING THE MAFIA WAS GOING TO BE A PIECE OF CAKE, MUST HAVE BEEN RETARDED OR DOPE FEENS WITHOUT A LIFE TO LIVE FOR. ALL OF THESE VATOS COMING OUT OF THE WOODWORK, ACTING LIKE VICTIMS, SHOULD NOT BE REGARDED AS HEROES.

(Which vatos are acting like victims and which ones are we looking to as heroes? Let me ask you a question, Sereno. If your brother were executed by a bad guy and someone came out and gave up the killer, would you be indignant at this guy for "naming names"? Would you be grateful or would you apply your street code of "silence"?)

THEY WEAR NEVER CUT OUT TO MAKE IT, AND SHOULD HAVE KNOWN WHAT IT WAS THAT THEY WERE GETTING INTO.

(I say they were smart to make that move, my preaching friend. You tell Kilroy, Conejo, Dano, Mundo,and Boxer Enriquez to their face about never being cut out and I'll show you vatos who made great moves in their lives to forsake their awful lifestyles. You sound like a simple gang banger when you say they should have known what they were getting into. The next time a hardcore tecato dies of an overdose, tell their family that they should have known what they were getting into. Tell them that those who just 'chip' are worthy of a new life .... but those who are considered hope to die tecatos are NOT).

THOSE THAT DROPPED OUT, BUT TURNED TO GOD TO HELP OTHERS OUT, WITHOUT NAMING NAMES OR GOING TO TRAIL AGAINST THEIR OLD CAMARADAS, I CAN UNDERSTAND.

(What a message you send: You can turn to the Lord, but don't testify in court against the bad guys! Don't criticize ... even if you've been there ..... you should not generalize without knowing the individual circumstances involved.)

I JUST HOPE THAT THE BIBLE ISN'T JUST A FRONT TO HIDE THEIR WEAKNESS.....

(Once again, it isn't your call, my friend. It's the Lord's call and He will deal with them. The important thing is to come to Him!)

BY THE WAY.....MY NICKNAME IS SERENO....I'M NOT FROM THE GANG SERENO (NO DISRESPECT INTENDED...JUST CLEARING THINGS UP)....

(Oh, yeah, and nickname is East L.A. Boy and I am from East L.A. "Just clearing things up")

SERENO said...

IT'S GOOD THAT YOU TOOK THE TIME TO BREAK DOWN MY COMMENT AND TRIED TO FIGURE ME OUT, BUT THERE IS SOMETHING THAT MAYBE I DIDN'T MAKE CLEAR, AND THAT IS MY MISTAKE. I DON'T CONDONE ANY CRIMINAL ACTION, AND BOTH MY FEET ARE DEFINITELY IN THE CHURCH. WHAT YOU POINTED OUT IS TRUE. I WAS NOT A MATURE CHRISTIAN, BUT I MADE A CHOICE. WHETHER IT WAS A GOOD OR BAD ONE, THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES THAT AROSE FROM THAT DECISION. NEVER ONCE HAVE I SAID ONE CAN'T REPENT, BUT
WHAT I AM STATING IS THAT NO ONE ELSE IS GUILTY OF YOUR SINS BUT YOURSELF. THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE HARD CORE OR THE CLAIMER. BOTH ARE EQUALLY RESPONIBLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS. BOTH HAVE HAD OPPORTUNITIES TO RECIEVE CHRIST, AND BOTH CAN DECIDE WHETHER TO DO SO OR NOT. AND WHAT HAPPENS TO THOSE THAT DON'T, AND DIE? IS THERE A SECOND CHANCE AFTER DEATH? THIS IS NOT ABOUT DOUBLE STANDARDS. THEY CHOSE TO CONTINUE LIVING THAT LIFE. THEY'VE SEEN SOME OF THEIR OWN BREAK AWAY FROM THAT LIFE BY THE POWER OF JESUS CHRIST, AND YET THEY HAVEN'T GOT THE POINT. I CRITIZISE (I CAN CRITIZISE AS YOU ARE DOING TO ME) THOSE THAT LEAVE FOR THE WRONG REASONS. THEY ARE NO BETTER. THEY HAVE NOT CHANGED. THEY ARE MANIPULATING PUBLIC OPINION TO MAKE MONEY AND BE PROTECTED. THEY ARE TRUSTING IN MAN AND MONEY, NOT IN GOD...
REVELATION Chapter 22:11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is FILTHY, let him be FILTHY still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be....EVERY MAN ACCORDING TO HIS WORK, UNLESS HE REPENTS WITH ALL HIS HEART AND ALL HIS MIND AND ALL HIS SOUL. THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE... 2 CHRONICLES Chapter 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their WICKED ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land...YOU THROW EVERY SINGLE DETRACTER IN THE MIX WITH THOSE THAT HAVE TRULY BEEN CONVERTED TO CHRIST.
WHEN I STATED THAT EVERY ORGANIZATION HAS IT'S MONSTERS, WHAT WAS MEANT IS THAT IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN OBVIOUS TO THOSE GETTING INTO THE MAFIA FROM JUMPSTREET THAT IT WAS FULL OF KILLERS. TO HAVE THESE GUYS ACT AS VICTIMS, OR TO PRETEND TO THINK THAT THEY HAD NO IDEA OF WHAT THEY WERE GETTING INTO, IS DOWNRIGHT OBSURD. YOU SEEM QUICK TO DEFEND ANY MURDERER ON THE BASIS OF NOT KNOWING THE SITUATION. YOU SAID SOMETHING VERY TRUE. YOU'RE EITHER HOT OR COLD. DOESN'T THAT APPLY IN EVERY SENSE??? DOESN'T THAT APPLY TO THE MAFIOSO WHO KILLS FOR THE MAFIA WHEN CONVENIENT, BUT TURNS STATE EVIDENCE WHEN HIS OWN GOOSE IS COOKED? THAT'S NOT REDEMPTION. THAT'S POLITICS. I CAN STATE MY OPINION OF NOT RESPECTING THAT. I'M NOT PLAYING GOD. I AM WELL AWARE OF HIS POWER AND REDEMPTION, HIS LOVE FOR THE SINNER, BUT NOT FOR SIN, HIS WASHING AWAY OF SINS THROUGH HIS BLOOD SPILLED FOR US ON THE CROSS. THAT'S THE REASON I WORK WITH THE YOUTH OF MY CHURCH. THEY ARE BLESSED TO HAVE PEOPLE BY THEIR SIDE TO CARE FOR THEM AND TEACH THEM THE WORD OF GOD. THEY ARE BLESSED TO HAVE PERSONAL RELATIONSHIPS WITH CHRIST. I DON'T MAKE THE CALL, BUT I AM CLEAR ON THE FACT THAT EVERY MAN REAPS WHAT HE SOWS. EVEN IN THE WORST SITUATIONS, GOD TEACHES US AND MOLDS US. YOU TYPED THAT,".. When you share your experiences you don't honor an underworld code in doing so." I LEARNED TO LISTEN AND TO GET MY FACTS STRAIGHT IN THAT UNDERWORLD CODE, AND NOT REACT ARROGANTLY, THINGS WHICH ARE BIBLICAL, SOMETHING THAT I THINK YOU COULD BENEFIT FROM...JAMES Chapter 1:
19 Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to WRATH....AND I ALSO LEARNED THAT THOSE WHO TRY TO PROVE THEY'RE HARD CORE ARE THE QUICKEST TO FALL...ECCLESIASTES Chapter 7:17 Be not over much wicked, neither be thou FOOLISH: why shouldest thou die before thy time... SO IT DOESN'T SEEM FITTING FOR YOU, SOMEONE WHO APPERENTLY SEEMS TO KNOW THE BIBLE, TO PLAY JUDGE IN THIS. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEN OF GOD AND THOSE THAT HIDE BEHIND SHEEP'S CLOTHING, AND WE ARE TOLD TO POINT THEM OUT. THAT'S WHAT I AM DOING. I REALLY HOPE THAT WE CAN COME TO SOME KIND OF UNDERSTANDING. THE WHOLE POINT OF MY COMMENT IS TO MAKE A DISTINCTION BETWEEN ACTUAL REPENTANCE AND A POLITICAL CHANGE OF HEART. I HOPE THAT YOU CAN ALL SEE THE THAT, AND I APOLOGIZE TO ANYONE WHO WAS CONFUSED BY IT....

Anonymous said...

fuck that, I can read between the line and what i read in between the lines of your original post was a guy hiding behind the church when convenient and calling others busters when you thought it would gain you support on this blog.
you were being judgemental and arrogant in spite of this last posts claiming yourself otherwise.
save that shit for the sorka buying beachfront real estate in arizona!

SERENO said...

WELL....SORRY I CAME OFF THAT WAY. IT'S NOT ABOUT GAINING SUPPORT. I REALLY DON'T NEED IT. I'VE GOT FRIENDS AND FAMILY, AND OVER ALL, JESUS IN MY LIFE FOR THAT....I WAS JUST STATING A COMMENT.

Anonymous said...

Boxer was definetly a solid member but he rerally lost a lot of power when topo fell into bad graces with other brothers, so that faction was on it's way out and it was only a matter of time when something would have caught up to Caja.I knew him personally and to be straight up, he seemed to carry himself too hard, I should say exaggerated ruthlessness. Chuco was the same way. He made his bones but on the inside he was'nt all that he portrayed himsel to be.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know what is going on with Thomas "Wino" Grajeda? He
was a big EmE member at one time.
The last I heard was that a couple
of years ago he put some guys to do some work. They all rolled on him. Can anyone verify?

tuffskin4080 said...

an un written law not to involve the family members..Lets just pump that dope to them lets shoot up the fuckin varrio and lets kill each other but dont involve the family? domino game the shit just hits the next one and we all fall down!wher is this man of treason? in the custody of the state eating ,sleeping,apeering on t.v dicussing a way of life he promoted and pledged allegance to..He has achange of heart and now he trys to push the gospel? in my world any man pushing these poisons is a ghost ..and i don't see ghosts!

tuffskin4080 said...

being from the north from what ive heard northerners are far out numbered by the surenos and when there are fools jacking there slacks or flea flicking they get cancelled real fast! i wonder how come the eme is so deep? And nortenos keep small numbers? I was told that nortenos keep a tight regime and do not put up with smut period..and that the job calls for a few good men not a nation of them that turn over like clock work! whats the big deal with putting up your user name? we all know thugs don't own computers right?every one on this forum besides me is dry snitching!all of you are speaking on shit that shouldnt be spoken of !but hey you open the lid on the trash can theres gonna be rats and flys on big piles of shit!lil blue birdies singin in the trees...im just here enjoying the picnic eating this big bowl of northern californias best grapes and enjoying the sweet music the birds are giving...praise jesus and victory outreach the rest haven for lost angels and my tired farmers..i still believe in us...fight the power loco and get the mans foot out your ass!!!!we shouldnt be killing each other at all!

Anonymous said...

xiv norte la nuestra familia

tuffskin4080 said...

Just wondering if any of you have heard of the documentary based on Nuestra familia i hear it had a few showing's at film fest's i believe it was showcased around the L.A area some time back..Investigative reports channel is soon to be releasing the d.v.d. I recently read a book about nuestra familia writtin by a fellow member it was a good read.

Gambino said...

Fuck Boxer bitch ass punk !!

Anonymous said...

im not in a gang but i grew up on the streets and i know about unwritten law and being down or whatever, but i think boxer didnt sell out cause he dropped out i think he jus figured things had gone too far and he was making a very concious choice on his own terms for his own reasons that only god can judge as write or wrong if someon was to take out his family that would be worse than what he did cause they are not guilty if people are going to go that far they should think about what is most important in life i mean if they were to do something like that then they should think about how wrong it was and how far they had went and maybe consider dropping out themselves, these days its very hard to know who is the bad guy and who is not i have served time and never ratted out my brothers but it was because i respected them and where is the brotherhood if they were the type to kill my family even if i did rat them out they were never down to begin with then is my opinion

Anonymous said...

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R.I.P BOOBOO'BLACKY'LIONEL'BULLET'SHARKY'TONITO'SNAKE'BOY

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

SAN JOSE KILLA SHARKS BITCH. MAINTAIN THE FLAME.
NORTE SIDEN HOMEBOY.
LIKE IT WAS SAID B-4 " BUSTA SCRAP IN HIS LIP AND LET THE TRU COLOR DRIP "
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Anonymous said...

Is it true that the late Robert "Robot" Salas was given a "hotshot", that has been mysteriously covered up by all including the county morgue and law enforcement officials. My source is a insider with Robot's crew and swears this is true.

Anonymous said...

Sounds like something I heard a year ago. Can anyone confirm or deny?

Anonymous said...

Kacuuie said: I can't sit quiet on this too; the "little boy" or who knows It could be MR. Gratton yaking to play off he's pretending to still be in the mix (yeah right) or as stated it probably is a young and I mean very very young "Famero". I know some of the 20 plus year old "N's" may make say some'n stupid as such but a down for the cause older convict status individual won't enter into convesation as such. A D.O. 80% will. Anyhow, youngster better hit the books and stay off the puter, because you're going to end up giving up your little homeboys and/or yourself and then what. Yeah someone in the house will have to get a mop and clean up after you have lost blatter control. Hey "hatters" you know I'm just stating the fact and youngster several have warned you already in there own respected ways. Stay alert, Kacuuie

Anonymous said...

Kacuuie said: I posted this also on the most recent 2007 blog just in case you didn't pull it up in here.
Anony: you asked about Wino G. He's been trying for about nearly 4 years to get back in good grace with the MM and even La Rana. Quate isn't even giving him a pass. Yeah he jumped up and wanted to be somebody. Things happen. He also had some cosmetic surgery. Seems he was being transferred to court from Corco Pen in the winter and it was mighty soupy (fog) that morning and the cruiser hit
(t-boned) a trash truck. Cops in the cruiser rec'd some serious injuries along with Wino, his face hit the cage. Pilled his cap huge. Underwent some lengthy plastic surgery. He's orig., aka in no longer but has been changed to "Waffle Face". Geeez guys don't take that seat-belt off while in transport. They do it all the time, says it's real uncomfortable and can't move around on that plastic seat. Kacuuie

Anonymous said...

All but one grajeda are done. cuate is the only grajeda still in good standings with the big homies. They're grip on the harbor area has faded and wilmington gang members from east side wilmas and west side wilmas have taken they're place in the game. Tonito from the east side and raul molina from the west side got shit on lock, not to mention little man from the west side who was just released from federal prison and is a hardcore EME member.

Anonymous said...

My dad NANO from sereno was there in the ally when they killed tonito. He took the money from his pocket when he was dead and gave it to the big homies.

Anonymous said...

Well, what's worse is chicanos or any other race using the word niggah and that's sickening so why not beat these fucks down and make it a rule to not act like a black? I'm not against the race but I know it's stupid for people and I'm going say chicanos because supposedly there's always race tensions on who's dick is bigger but yet all the time in every city i hear nigga or niggah from people who aren't black!