VALLEY STABBING SIGNALS WAR
You don't usually hear much going on in the SF Valley. But something's about to kick off. Last week a carload of alleged CPA homies rolled up on four alleged Haskell Streeters in broad daylight in the 20000 block of Sherman Way. Fists flew, a knife came out and one Haskell paid the ultimate price for living the life. The usually wrong media attributed the incident to rival tagging crews. Haskell apparently is moving West, and CPA is claiming more streets to the East. Result? You figure it out. Somebody ought to clamp a lid on this before it gets crazy.
Friday, April 28, 2006
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Problem: Every other race, dislikes/hates/discriminates against “Latin” people.
Solution: “Latin” people, dislike/hate/discriminate against themselves and wear it with pride!
Oncome: That’s why we are still selling Oranges and washing cars.Wake the fuck up!
Problem: Every other race, dislikes/hates/discriminates against “Latin” people.
Solution: “Latin” people, dislike/hate/discriminate against themselves and wear it with pride!
Outcome: That’s why we are still selling Oranges and washing Cars. Wake the fuck up!
There is a saying; the enemy of my enemy is my friend! Learn it, live it, do it!
Again...
"the dogs bark but the caravan moves on"
Arabian proverb
Interesting good post. Welcome back Don Q.
Jimmy Mack
Here's this same culo cagon that's always chillando que dame mas y mas, give it up! Sabes que paso? I'm thinking this lloron is either a lazy cop or is the return of LA Times reporter "Sam Quinones"!
Hey ese why don't "you" give it up?
Tell us whats up with the annual farm crop estimates in NoCal or what's the skinny on the "police blotter" maybe get a kick up from your CO. back at the station.
Go get your own info and share it with us Wallistas.
Oh I forgot you like to scam blogs from Wally and then be a hero to a bunch of 14 year old's on "Brown Pride" when you post up as "Latino". what a world!
What you primo's think? here's a typical blog from this juirijuiri.
"Anonymous said...
Hey are you guys out there really a bunch of bofos????
do you really need wally, tj, dq or any of those monkeys nuts to give you current info.
com'on lets get it together, if you any of you know any thing happening out give it up.
current shit about your hood shit about your cuosins hood tu sabes shit!!!
dont wait around for these vatos to hand you something, mobolize yourselfs bring in some shit of your own and we'll kick this motherfucker off ourselves.
dont be salves to the shit.
Anonymous, go stick a dart up your nose?
Funny post! Thanks for the laugh DQ.
Hey "don quixote",
What do you know about Vickys Town starting off in the same area as Clover. I have heard from several sources that they started off of "Victoria St" in Lincoln Heights but cant confirm that a street named Victoria ever exhisted. If it once did its not there anymore
WB DQ --- It must be nice to just charge off on vacation, go down to San Felipe and feast on shrimp while the rest of YOUR country is trying to wrest some changes out of the grasp of the current tyrants.. If you had to, I hope you helped to diminish the Tecate and Dos Equis surplus while you languished with your compadres..
I took May 1st off and kicked back with some Michoacan I've been hording for a few yrs..I flew the Italian flag at the house. The wife made a mess of chicken and beef tamales and I had friends over for eats and beers.. I even got a Muslim friend to drink one while his wife was out..He's Pakistani and another guy was Chicano, 2 Paddys and a Sioux..Redneck friends got introed to tamales (big hit)and remarkably, they brought the Cabo Wabo.. I wore my tye-dyed overalls for joker, and miles davis and Charlie Parker blew horn on the box.. It was a good day.. What did Los Lobos say? One More Day In America..............
Hey DON Q and JOE...
SHUT THE FUCK UP!!
this isn't a "what I did for summer vacation" blog. You old vatos needs to just end your lives so we don't need to hear about you fucking lame ass lops!
THIS BLOG HAS GONE TO CACA
Hey! Fuck You Anonymous. Your ASS is boring! You got nothing but your stupid rant, and it's moldy so go climb a stick, and shove a dart in your eye.. Fuckin MORON..
Anonymous asks about what I know about VickysTown in Lincoln Hts.
They never existed when I was a youngster, I first heard of them in the late 70's when a youngster from Clover told me he got rat packed by some vatos who said they were from "VickysTown". Later I worked with a few Paisas who said they started a clique called "VickysTown" around 5 points in Lincoln Hts.. They were good vatos and all were from "Ensenada BC". Unfortunately they started feeling thier "Wheaties" and got on the bad side of some of the old varrios in the area and got fucked up real bad. Only thing I know about "VickysTown" hope it helps.
Hey Gava Joe it sure is a small world, we stayed in a home (San Felipe,BC) on the beach south of town thats owned by an Italian guy from Sicily. He had the Italian, Mexican, and US flags up. It was beautiful, barbequeing fish, fresh tortillas from the local joint,Pollo Rostisado, fumando buena grifa, good vino, Tecate con sal y limon, and also enjoying some good music.
Nightime, wood fire burning, waves on the beach, Miles blowing(All Blues), Bird on fire blowing (east of the sun west of the moon) Lee Morgan (Sidewinder) feeling good and everyone singing along with Jimmie Reed, (Bright Lights, Big City) and closing out the night tripping with the Moonglows (In my Diary, We go together) The Dubs (In the Chapel of Dreams).
Viva la Huelga!, Viva Mexico!
For my summer vacation, I went to the in the hat blogger and read what other people did on their vacations.lets see how many more useless of subject posts we can get to!with DQ,GJ and Anonymous Truckos, I'm sure we can hit 1200 or so off subject posts!!!
Thanks carnal - I had to go to my translator for "fumando buena grifa" - A phrase I plan to implement in the future.. Gracias
I went to 7-11, got a microwave burrtio and listened to Huey Lewis and News..."I need a new drug" and tried to watch the sunset but the smog off the 10 was pretty thick so I just watched TV....
That smog is the very reason why you need to take a vacation, then come back and tell us about it.. As for that huey music, well he was good when he played the fillmore back in '70 but you prolly need to upgrade, joker....
PS those Speedy Mart burritos'll kill ya quicker'n Agent Orange..
O.C. can you say ... 'anti-Mexican'?
By Gustavo Arellano, GUSTAVO ARELLANO is a staff writer with OC Weekly, where he writes the "¡Ask a Mexican!" column.
May 8, 2006
I TEND TO SNORE during plays, but my peepers didn't flutter once when I attended a staging of "The Mexican OC," a new play highlighting the history of Mexicans in Orange County. Though the vignettes jump from the 1892 lynching of a Mexican laborer by Santa Ana civic leaders to the student walkouts of this March, the theme remained the same: If you're a Mexican in the county of milk and Mickey, expect mucho discrimination.
"The Mexican OC" retells many familiar yarns — about the Minutemen, gentrification battles, Mendez vs. Westminster (the 1945 legal case that desegregated schools in Orange County and that Thurgood Marshall cited in arguing Brown vs. Board of Education). My only complaint with the play was that it only scratched the surface of my county's bizarre history of hating the Mexican.
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For instance, it didn't mention the late INS Commissioner Harold Ezell, a Newport Beach resident and local GOP stalwart who once told reporters that "illegal aliens shouldn't be deported; they should be deep-fried." Or the recent incident in which a Rancho Santa Margarita woman accused three maids of stealing her purse and got the Orange County Sheriff's Department to help deport them before officers determined that this Desperate Housewife had left the purse at a McDonald's.
Truth is, Orange County is the Mexican-bashing capital of the United States. Our racist sneezes become national hurricanes.
County residents birthed both the notorious Minuteman Project and Proposition 187, the 1994 initiative that scared us with images of shadowy Mexicans crossing the border and spawned copycat measures nationwide. Costa Mesa Mayor Allan Mansoor and O.C. Sheriff Michael Carona are seeking to transform their respective police and sheriff's departments into la migra, a plan other municipalities across the country are considering. And members of our Republican congressional delegation — some of whom boycotted President Bush's recent amnesty-touting speech in Irvine — played a crucial role in crafting the notorious Sensenbrenner bill, HR 4437, which would make assisting an illegal immigrant a crime. Orange County is even home to the headquarters of Taco Bell and Del Taco, the worst apings of Mexican culture since a brown-face Charlton Heston hammed it up in "Touch of Evil."
What explains our Mexican-bashing ways? The old stereotype of Orange County as a bastion of wealthy white conservatives doesn't suffice; a Mexi-phobic streak even exists among assimilated O.C. Mexicans, who use a unique-to-Orange County slur —"wab" — to deride recently arrived Mexicans. The deep well of racism stems directly from the county's foundation.
Unlike East Los Angeles or other regions with significant Mexican communities, the lords of Orange County never let their Mexicans become anything other than Mexicans. After receiving generations' worth of cheap Mexican labor to power the county's chief industries — citrus before World War II, real-estate development afterward — the O.C. psyche is wired to view brown-skinned folks as perpetual peons. City ordinances forced Mexican immigrants like my great-grandfather and grandfather to live in shoddy citrus camps instead of the good parts of town for decades; the resulting barrios still exist and account for our continued housing segregation. Orange County's recent emergence as a gateway for Mexican immigration — the county seat, Santa Ana, is percentage-wise the most Latino city in the U.S., with a population of more than 100,000 — also ensures that the trek toward assimilation and acceptance won't begin anytime soon.
Ask the haters, and many will insist that some of their best friends are Mexicans; it's illegal immigrants they despise. But the slope here between "Mexican" and "illegal immigrant" has always been a Slip 'N Slide. And even if immigration stopped tomorrow, Orange County would still look down on Mexicans.
I'm a fourth-generation descendant of naranjeros (orange pickers), barely speak Spanish and am lighter-skinned than most of my gabacho friends. Still, a couple of years ago, I attended a fundraiser at the Balboa Bay Club — the Musso & Frank's for O.C.'s old money, and John Wayne's favorite drinking well — and while I was standing in line for a horrid Mexican buffet, a skinny, prissy thing approached. She asked if I could serve her some beans. I laughed. While I waited for the valet later that night, the same woman asked if I could grab her car. "Not unless you want it on cinder blocks," I replied. My Camry arrived. I paid the $5 charge and slipped the Mexican valet an extra $20.
The Mexican-hating here isn't all bad, I guess — it does provides for delicious, ironic comedy. Minuteman founder Jim Gilchrist has a Mexican son-in-law and owns a Chihuahua named Tia. An Anaheim club that used to be host to white-power rock shows is now one of the county's most popular Mexican nightclubs. And two days after viewing "The Mexican OC," I got to watch a group of about 60 prune-faced white folks do their comical worst to counter-protest the tens of thousands of Latinos demonstrating in downtown Santa Ana at the "Day Without Immigrants" rally. Under the cover of mounted police, the furious fogies hurled chants of "tacos," "welfare" and "amigos" to the bronze-skinned moms and dads, kiddies and abuelitas.
Orange County, as always, was itching for its Mexicans to riot. But most of the marchers were too busy waving American flags to notice.
(Like I said, Orange County sell out weenie punks!)
:)
To Don Quixote,
Gracias for the heads up. I heard from a couple people that VST started in Lincoln Heights. Im still trying to figure out what the origins of the name are. Ive been told it comes from Victoria St but havent found any street like that in all of NELA. The 5 points is where Daily/Pasadena/Ave26 meet correct?It seems fitting that it was started by paisas. Most of the vatos from VSt I ever rain into in the other Heights, Boyle, were paisa types tambien. Any thought on where the name comes from? Victoria Baja?
No one wants to hear about your San Felipe, "fuck my drinking buddy" weekend.
When you broke motherfuckers take a real vacation to ie.... France, China, Spain, Russia, or butt fuck Egypt, then give us some details. If not, then shut the fuck up!!!!
I'm in San Felipe and La Paz every two to three weekends. Take a Picture, Write it down, who gives a FUCK!!!
We know your mother didn't give a fuck...she had you. Big Baby Boy. Your brain cells need more oxygen.
Apparently daddy didn't give a phuck either...
It's almost seven, good nite Big Baby Boy.
whoever is putting up that "Big Baby Boy" black romantic bullshit ....must be either a sister or a solid flaming faggot...
Ahhh... have you an angry brow Big Baby Boy? ...Grumble, grumble!
pinche vatos homosexuales........
Big Baby Boy, your command of the English language (fuck, shit, and fuck) evinces that evolution has hit a cul de sac in your regards. Do let us hear some more.
FUCK THE NOODLES!
fUCK THE nOODLES, FUCK THE GUY WHO SAID THAT MAYATE FAGGOT SHIT, "BIG BABY BOY" AND FUCK WHOEVER MAKES A RESPONSE TO ME !
TAKE THAT BITCHES AND HOMOS
Stick a dart up your nose Baboso. Dont you know when to stop? Are you a glutton for punishment?
This guy really loves darts.....
probably stuck a dart up his hairy ass and tramatized himself.
Maybe his mom played "pin the donkey" on his left butt cheek
lol
Amigo, I actually *do* wish you were a lttle smarter so you could then see how stupid you come off sounding. What say you?
Don Q = a fucking idiotic child molester jerkoff that sits in front a computer twiddling his nuts to internet animal porn.
Big Baby Boy, I'm going to take a big fat guess and say you didn't quite make it to Middle school?
...Don Q is someone I have high regards for. Tijuana Jailer and Gava Joe are also very cool. You on the other hand are wonderfuly primitive.
Jimmy Mack... when are you comming back?
old fat fucks, budweiser drinking cock suckers.....
you forgot finger gray hair ass scatchers......
:)
What's wrong with scatching your hairy ass?
Under the American Constitution, its our right and sometimes an obligation.
:)
Can you really grow gray hairs out of your asshole? ....
This is an important question....
If this is a known fact, I want to know!
If true, I need to tell my hyna to stop licking beyond my balls and down in and around the asshole....
She always said that she would cure my hemorrhoids....but never seemed to work!
I feel guilty......!
better yet tell your "hyna" to lick my bolas!
Better learn to be nice.
Hey dq your such a fucken hypocrete,
you and those other foolios.
a while back i posted about the meeting where the cops tossed out a young vato were people were protesting shit on Mexican treatment[bad].
then you and your nutsack buddies posted back, how fucking funny it was that the vato got tossed.
i posted back the shit would hit the fan and the tide would turn,
you cocksuckers just laughed.
Now i read that you spend your vacas in Mex. along side Mexicanos showing solidarity towards one another, you're a puto fagged son.
nothing more and nothing less, just a pimple on this earths ass motherfucker.
and please gava shit can ever start off any fucking posts without any of that backward kansas
shit about sunsets and sweatlodge blue skies and whatever the fuck else you deem post worthy.
and for all you buffons who are always backing these harpos up,
plaese let me when was the last time any of them came up with anything worth noting.
I'll say this, the vato here i can say that has come through with the nuevas is tj jailer, i have to admit it.
having said a bid you adu motherfuckers.
ps. hey puto
[dq] i'm not northern asshole.
Open your dyslexic brain and view your post, Nimrod!! It's F- work.. Go to detention and get out your Dick and Jane books... Again!
Rather than spew all that jealous hate, try and make a point. Nobody cares how primitive it may be.. we're tolerant to transitional humanoids.......... GJ
wow, that fucker said "Nimrod"!
When is the last time you heard that shit?!?!??? HAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!
What a fucken leva!!!!
ITS EERIE HOW ALOT OF THIS DIALOUGE SOUNDS LIKE PEDO ID SAY. FUNNY SHIT! GIVE EM HELL!
Sometimes the old words just fit, Retired Joker, Latino, etc..Nothing you put up here generates anything but discourse. I searched and never found ANY substance that you've brought to this forum. It's all second-hand kiss ass tired rhetoric.. I figure you must be getting a little squirmy what with your yng fella Trukos absent.. Kid probably found him a little Nortena, and did'nt need any of this pedo what with you creating shit at every turn..
You got problems, you're flawed, but it can be fixed.. Get help, ese. And maybe think about that rhinoplasty your wm was hinting at... GJ
Cant keep my name out your mouth, just like my dick. No wouldnt fuck with no tore up ass buster ho's, sorry ese. What I have up too is reading and kicking back watching some MLB. Havent seen anything worth commenting on in a while, so there it is there, life is good as a young chicano in California!
Oh shit that was my last comment forgot to put my famous name, you fuckin lop ass faggot!
Peace
DAMN GAVA JOE,
WHY TRUKOS TURN ON YOU?
Damn! It's great when you go off joker, splittin all those anonymous personalities and just kinda fragmenting before the very blog..The impotent rage is comical.Your buttons are SO accessible..You'll prob go off "gay" on the button reference..Such a boring piece of work.. So predictable.. Such a waste of mother's milk!! HAHAHAHAHA.. GJ
Joker, finally getting smart in your old age Ah?
Big Baby Boy, still in a state of cheerful stupidity today? Que no?
Talk to me.
[don quixote said...
Also just a historical comment and correction. The person posting on the early "Avenues" being a social club formed along Figueroa St. in Highland Park is wrong.]...he just posted what was an article that was in L.A.weekly called''avenues of death'' and the avenues DO have a new clika named after alex....
Some parts of the valley are pretty crazy. I moved from a pretty shady area in Venice to North Hills for about two years in the early nineties and I saw some crazy shit go down there. The local gang where I lived was Langdon Street. The neighborhood was right off the 405 fwy which made for easy access (quick in and out) for all the crack heads. There was gunfire almost nightly, and there were a few occasions of straight up gun battles that lasted up to 10 minutes. That place was like the wild west. Definitely changed my perception of the valley being a sleepy suburb of L.A.
8:24 PM
Anonymous said...
"If guns and drugs weren't carted into American cities by the boatload (literally, as Oliver North proudly confessed a couple of decades ago), and more effort was made to make the American middle class job market more accessible to those in the inner city, we wouldn't have shit like what happened in San Francisco, nor would we have the kind of shit we've seen out of gangs in the past 3 decades."
San Franciso creates it's own problems with it's idiotic liberal ideology. Quit blaming the government for your failures you liberal dickweed.
Article Last Updated: 05/09/2006 06:55:43 AM PDT
Change of plans proves fatal
Man killed in Oakland shooting after skipping Cinco de Mayo festival
By Kristin Bender and Harry Harris
OAKLAND — Artemio C. Matias tried to go to the Cinco de Mayo celebration in the Fruitvale district Sunday, but because some 100,000 other people had the same idea he couldn't find parking near the festival.
Instead, he headed east on Foothill Boulevard to take a relative home.
His route proved deadly.
Matias, 24, was caught in traffic gridlock in the 3700 block of Foothill Boulevard near Cesar Chavez Park about 2 p.m. Sunday when someone — possibly a gang member — sprayed his car with bullets.
Matias, who had no gang ties or criminal record, was taken to Highland Hospital in Oakland, where he died at 2:31 p.m. Two other men in the car were not injured. "They did nothing to provoke this," said Sgt. Rick Andreotti. He was "an innocent victim of senseless violence," Andreotti added.
Norteno gang members have tagged the park as their turf and police said graffiti there and the clothes worn by people hanging out at the park suggest the shooting was related to the Norteno gang.
Nortenos identify with the color red and the symbols XIV, X4 and 14 because "N" is the 14th letter of the alphabet.
The Nortenos' rivals are the Surenos who identify with the color blue and the symbols X3, 13 and XIII because "M" for Mexican Mafia is the 13th letter of the alphabet.
Police said Matias and his two passengers were verbally harassed by a group of 15 to 20 people in the park while they were held up in traffic. Although they never responded to the taunting, someone in the park shot at the car, police said.
Matias came from Guatemala five years ago to join a majority of his family and work in construction.
"He didn't have (any) trouble with the people," said older brother Octavio Matias, 25. "He listened to me. ... I'm so upset right now."
Despite being wounded, Artemio Matias drove the car about a block, where paramedics were summoned by a police sergeant making a traffic stop. The car belonged to a relative.
The killing was the 49th in Oakland so far this year. At this time last year, there were 28 homicides. At least half a dozen of this year's killings have been gang-related, police said.
Police and Crime Stoppers of Oakland are offering up to
$20,000 in reward money for information leading to the arrest of the killer.
Well theres a job opening for them people who are crying about immigrants taking all the jobs...
:)
If you think Langdon Street is bad, you should ask around and get the 411 on their historical enemy, Blythe Street 13. They shot at the Guardian Angels and local neighborhood security (citizens). Made the Guardian Angels grab their dicks between their legs and ran back to New York with that Karate bullshit. I wont be the one to tell you but the 411 with Blythe13 and the connecta with Primera Flats is out there.....
:)
YOU TALK ALOT OF SHIT MS. :) SMILEY ....BUT PROPS ESE... YOU KNOW YOUR SHIT.....
YOU'VE EVEN SCHOOLING ON GAME ESE
"San Franciso creates it's own problems with it's idiotic liberal ideology. Quit blaming the government for your failures you liberal dickweed."
Oliver North already confessed to allowing Manuel Noriega to deal drugs into American cities. Why should anyone be naive enough to believe that it stops there? Learn your history, idiot. When the government gets involved with shit like that, you'd better believe people are going to blame them for the consequences. Who do you propose should be blamed for North's involvement with crack cocaine hitting the streets in the 80s, the teachers' union? Snap out of your denial, you mindless fuck.
Wow "Liberal Ideology", now theres a adjective that used to be a real war cry heard from the "high pitched ranting" right wing radio personalities, the moral compass's of "Merica" before the "hillbilly heroin" "perverted phone calls","millions of $$ spent at the slot machine" "Abramoff bag men" floated these fascists to the surface like sewer scum.
Funny all the whinning from the right wing rings hollow now that they had the power and dropped the ball big time.
Now the big "one issue" of these right "wing nuts" is apparently going to be the "invasion of the Mexicans"!
Fucking phoney ass screwballs running around looking for an issue to take the heat off their ineptitude.
Heeeelp the "Liberals" are comming!
: )
guess I'm just too NYC-centric, I can;t picture a dope spot being easily accessible from a freeway, LOL. Since when do crackheads have cars?
Hey kansas blow hole, how the fuck do you know nobody wants to read my shit, who are you to make such a determination.
Your nothing more then an old heyseed northerner who puts out shit under the guise of being an old pinto.
Please chapete your just a fucking joke, oh yeah you got some fools following you and the other fuck, but not everybody concedes to your shit.
And for your untelented info chonie breath, i'm not the rj, yeah he's a different element here,
but the enemy of my enemy is a friend to me.
And if he rubs you the wrong, awhoa!!
To the vatos who wrote about the valle frime shit see we don't need or have a need for the old farts.
Hey tj like i said before i like the info you bring even though we don't see eye to eye.
I SAW A CRACKHEAD LAST WEEK WHO DROVE AN ESCALADE WITH A FINE ASS BIG TITTY BLONDE IN THE FRONT SEAT, HO WAS PRETTY TOO! MIDDLE CLASS GAVA. THE NEXT CRACKHEAD, A CHICANO, DROVE A BRAND NEW LINCOLN.
GAVA JOE, I DONT THINK JOKER IS PLAYING SPLIT PERSONALITIES. I THINK TRUKOS REALLY WENT OFF ON YOU. SEE THATS WHY I STARTED IN ON HIM, BECAUSE HE HAS NO CONTROL AND OFFENDS OTHERS BECAUSE OF IT. HE WASNT QUICK ENOUGH TO CATCH THE GJ AND THE END OF YOUR POST AND TOOK IT AS ANOTHER ATTACK. I SAID I'D WALK AWAY FROM ARGUING WITH YOU, DON Q, AND GAVA JOE AND AM GLAD I DID. SMILEY FACE FROM DOWN SOUTH CLOWNS YOU VATOS ENOUGH FOR EVERYONE.
NOW THAT SAID, GOOGLE NEWS/MEXICAN MAFIA PRODUCES A FEW ARTICLES ON THE P12 CRACKDOWN AND EME BEING CAUGHT UP IN IT. I WONT POST THE LINKS BECAUSE FUCK IT, IF YOU REALLY WANT TO KNOW, LOOK IT UP.
Test
This test has only one question, but it's a very important one. By giving an honest answer, you will discover where you stand morally. The test features an unlikely, but a completely fictional situation in which you will have to
make a decision.
Remember that your answer needs to be honest, yet spontaneous. Please read slowly and give due consideration to each line.
THE SITUATION:
You are in Florida, Miami to be specific. There is chaos all around you caused by a hurricane with severe flooding. This is a flood of colossal proportions. You are a photojournalist working for a major newspaper, and you're caught in the middle of this epic disaster.
The situation is nearly hopeless. You're trying to shoot career-making photos. There are houses and people swirling around you, some disappearing under the water. Nature is unleashing all of its destructive fury.
THE TEST:
Suddenly you see a man in the water. He is fighting for his life, trying not to be taken down with the debris.
You move closer. Somehow the man looks familiar. You suddenly realize who it is.
It's Jesse Jackson!
At the same time you notice that the raging waters are about to take him under forever. You have two options-- you can save the life of Jesse Jackson, or you can shoot a dramatic Pulitzer Prize- winning photo, documenting the death of one of the world's most powerful politicians.
The Question:
Here's the question, and please give an honest answer:
Would you select high contrast color film, or would you go with the classic simplicity of black and white?
THAT WAS FUNNY, RACIST, BUT FUNNY
Has nothing to do with the color of one's skin! But everything with ones politic's. Leave the race card out homes, I could have equally inserted Senator Reid's D-Nevada, name or our Lt. Governor Bustamante. Thomas Sewell is a black political commentator who I greatly admire and like (great mind). Hasta pronto muchacho's!
(IN OTHER WORDS, AND THIS QUESTION IS FOR YOU TIJUAS, WHO STARTED GOING BACK TO THEIR ANCIENT LANGUAGES FIRST?
EME WITH NAUATHL?
AB WITH WITH NORSE?
OR BLACKS WITH SWAHILI?)
Good question. I would say AB (tattoes and Norse rhetoric) and Blacks (as far back as one can remember with Swahili) would predate the EME, but not by much and probably to a much lesser degreee than the M's "indulgence".
Remember, the M formed in 1957 and the AB and BGF did not form until the mid-1960's.
The first documented EME use of ancient cultural phrases, including monikers was in the late 1960's -- 1969 at DVI to be more specific.
As was their conduct in other areas, the M took this Aztec and Toltec fanaticism to an extreme. The first member to dub himself was Ricardo "Richie" Ruiz from Bakersfield. Richie (who was Cheyenne Cadena's crime partner on the outside) dubbed himself "Tupac Amaru". Richie, the senior statesman at DVI at the time, was responsible for the recruitment of approximately 15 EME youngsters in Tracy including:
Raymond "Huero Shy" Shryock (Artesia);
Vincent "Chente" Gutierrez (East Los);
Arthur "Conejo" Blajos (Primera Flats);
David "O.C." Aguirre (Orange County);
William "Willie Boy" Bermudez (Colton);
Arthur "Little Artie" Duran (Varrio Nuevo);
Alejandro "Moe" Ferrel (Hoyo Mara);
Donald "Stoney" Galaz (San Pedro); Ralph "Pata" Garcia (Bakersfield); Desiderio "Desi" Gonzalez (Varrio Nuevo);
Steve "Stefano" Guerrero (Kern Mara);
Frederick "Duke" Gerhart (Canoga Park);
Ricky "Moon" Luna (San Fer); Tomas "Killer" Martinez (Dog Town);
Raymond "Chavo" Perez (Bakers) & Manuel "Smiley" Tristan (18th Street).
Arthur "Conejo" Blajos was "Tochin", Martin "Kato" Vargas was "Quetzalcoatl" and it went on and on. Kato tattoed a huge Toltec war emblem on his breast plate. More than the ethnic identification, which was an important component to the Aztec & Toltec names and language, there was this insatiable obsession with the violence and perpetual war significance.
In those days, if the M was not taking out BGF or NF members, they would be working hard to purge their own for not living up to the standards of a "Toltec warrior" (i.e., not living up to the expectations of an EME soldier).
If someone ever devises a blog with capability of posting photographs, I would be more than happy to share some of these older vatos' photos sporting these ancient tattoes.
(The L.A. lifestyle in the Chicano community is something that Nortenos (with all their anti-Sureno "talk") has endeavored to emulate.)
Comparing gangs may work well for the "cheerleaders" but I believe it is important to note that the gang plague is a major problem in many California communities. It is, in fact, an evergrowing problem which will continue to expand here (in Cali) and, unfortunately, this cancer is being exported outside of our state borders, not to mention outside of the U.S!
Not much this old guy can respond to these days. I scrolled down and reviewed about 100 or more comments and it was like watching a tennis match.
(Hey tj like i said before i like the info you bring even though we don't see eye to eye.)
The world would be a boring place if we ALL saw "eye to eye". ;-)
Peace ..........
Tijuana Jailer
I didnt turn on anybody you LOP! And why do you think your pushing buttons, I aint mad ese, I dont get mad over some blog on the internet, it seems like this is your only outlet to talk shit and be tough or something, and we all know your a homosexual, by all the comments you make. Everything is good for me, I aint trippin, and the sun is out and the hynas are showing their bodys and Im collecting numbers and notches! So on with the games, and my boy from east LOS! Beat mayorga ass and I won 200.00 Dollars on that one, PEACE! IM OUT!
by the way good post TJ that was truly insightful
THANKS FOR THE RESPONSE TIJUAS.
TRUKOS, YOU DONT EVEN MERIT A RESPONSE.
Kiss my ass foolio
Taken from here..
http://www.angelfire.com/ca5/ganglandexpress/
Northern California, in general, has a richer history than Southern California. This is due to the fact that California first became popular to Americans bacause of the Gold, wich was in Northern California. Southern California started its industrial period in 1928 at the earliest. Mexican, or better said Spanish history in Northern California is practically as old, and equally as important as that of Southern California.
' The first Spanish settlement North of the present day North/SOuth boundary was in Monterey, were they set up a Presidio. The government headquarters of California has always been in the North.
' Californias first major city was San Francisco, wich was a full fledged city 80 years befor LA had running water. It was a comercial center for the gold miners, wich housed all the banks and financial institutions needed to run the gold rush. It was also a major port for imprting goods and people to work the mines.
' The revolution wich freed California of Mexico and passed it into American hands, too, had its start up North. The famous Bear Flag revolt occured in the city of Sonoma, and led to the abolishment of Mexican rule. Vallejo, who was the leader of the Mexican army, sympathized with the revolution, and was elected Californias first governer. The treaties and laws he tried to set up for the native Californian people were iradicated however. The new Calfornia owners were against the Mexicans and any one else who wasnt white.
' California was invaded by thousands of American, who were for the most part non- christian, iliterate, and unwanted in their native states. They squated and overan previously prosperous ranchos, wich the Mexicans had previously established. The law was on their side, and they later made the Mexicans appear to be the ignorant barbarians. This is an image wich I have personally encountered from many Anglos. Since the only 2 Mexicans they have seen in their life were busboys, they assume the entire Hispanic race is a group of ignorant monkeys. In the begining it was quite the opposite, and it is actually recorded in California laws who was really the ignorant monkeys. They made laws wich made all Mexicans non-citizens. They also, conveniantly, made laws wich made it illegal for non-citizens to speak in court. This is clearly anti-constitutional, but they let it ride.
' The Mexicans who owned the large prosperous ranchos were expropriated. They made laws wich required them to get new land titles, wich was impossible due to the fact that they werent citizens anymore, clearly breaching the treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo. Thats nothing new in US history though. They have been breaching treaties since two days after they started writing them. Clearly the Americans wich set up modern California had no concept of the word 'honor'.
' One of the first cholos, in my opinion, was from Northern California. His name was Joaquim Murrieta. He was a bandido who robbed stage coaches, jumped claims, and killed white people at will. He has never been popularized in California due to anglos fearing him as an anti-white, wich he was. The story that was shown in the movie Zorro, although showing him as a hero, didnt show him in his full context. Joaquim Murrieta, who was half native american, had his moms family slaghtered by the American Army. They did not leave one member of her tribe alive. His brother was killed by the American army for presumably being a bandido. His brothers wife they hung for no reason. The era he lived in was very anti-everyone but white, after all he wouldnt even be alowed to speak in court. He had a very hard life full of hardship, and mainly hate. He started robbing stage coaches and killing all the guards that came with them. He also jumped claims, and over all lived up to the whole bandido image. A ransom was placed on his head, making one of Americas Most Wanted. He was chased by the American army throughout the San Joaquim valley. He was finally caught and beheaded. His head was allegedly preseved in whiskey and supposedly is still around, owned by a private party in San Francisco. It is clear that he was a criminal, but he was driven to it by injustice, wich is Californias state motto. There is a song in Spanish about Joaquim Murrieta sung by Vicente Fernandez, and later Lorenzo de Monteclaro. It contains my favorite verse of all time:"de Mexico es California, porque dios asi lo quizo, en mi sarape cosido traigo mi fe de bautizo," wich says basically: California belongs to Mexico or else god wouldnt have made it that way, and to prove it he has his baptism certificate wich states California, Mexico, because Joaquim Murrieta was baptized in California when it was still Mexico.
' The modern day barrios of Northern California sprung up much later. It is unclear to me wich is the oldest Norteno barrio. Wether it is older than any Sureno barrio is irrelevant, for the oldest Sureno barrio is not established. It is clear that Pachucos have been in Northern California a long time. I assume the oldest barrios in the Norte are either from Oakland, San Jo, or somewhere in the Bay Area. Barrios in the Norte have been around since long before the use of the number 14, or 13 for that matter. Their is a strong rivalry between the barrios of Northern and Southern California. The reasons they dont get along make little sense, like in most rivalrys.
That is totally inacurate, sorry dude
Cingular Pulls Offensive "Migra" Ringtone
The Associated Press
Tuesday, May 9, 2006; 10:48 PM
BROWNSVILLE, Texas -- Cingular Wireless LLC pulled a ringtone from its Web site Tuesday after learning that it carried a message the company called "blatantly offensive."
The cell phone company became aware of the ringtone, which uses mixed English and Spanish and threatens deportation, after an inquiry from a reporter for The Brownsville Herald.
The newspaper reported in its online edition Tuesday that the ringtone started with a siren, followed by a male voice saying in a Southern drawl, "This is la Migra," a slang term for the Border Patrol.
"Por favor, put the oranges down and step away from the cell phone. I repeat-o, put the oranges down and step away from the telephone-o. I'm deporting you back home-o," the voice continued.
Hispanic activists called the product racist.
"It's horribly offensive and a disgusting thing," Brent Wilkes, national executive director of the League of United Latin American Citizens, told the newspaper.
Cingular removed the $2.49 ringtone, among thousands available for downloading from its Web site, Tuesday afternoon, said company spokesman Mark Siegel.
"Needless to say, we deeply regret and apologize for it ever being there in the first place. The ringtone is blatantly offensive," he said.
The ringtone became available between late February or early March and was downloaded eight times, Siegel said. It was developed by Barrio Mobile, Siegel said. Barrio Mobile is a brand owned by Lagardere Active North American, the U.S. division of a French media company.
Cingular officials were reviewing the process used to screen ringtones, which are developed by several other companies, he said.
What part of it is inaccurate?
:)
Whoever writes that angelfire bullshit articles is full of shit (another wannabe fucking gang professor).
They need to take a course on California history and look into the missions of Sinaloa, Baja California, and San Diego (where the real story started)
Monterey and San Francisco weren't even founded yet....
The only reason why San Francisco/Monterey were founded was for the Spanish Aramada needing a stopping point before the long journey to the Phillippines.
No one gave a shit about northern california except for the pirates, shipwreak foolios, and ship traders looking for supplies (fucking lemons and oranges, vitamin C).
I can into the whole story.....but FUCK YOU! Go learn your history pendejos!
Calling Murrieta a Cholo tells you how much of a imbecile that guy is....pinche vato mamon!
:) lol
:)
Whoever writes that angelfire bullshit articles is full of shit (another wannabe fucking gang professor).
They need to take a course on California history and look into the missions of Sinaloa, Baja California, and San Diego (where the real story started)
Monterey and San Francisco weren't even founded yet....
The only reason why San Francisco/Monterey were founded was for the Spanish Aramada needing a stopping point before the long journey to the Phillippines.
No one gave a shit about northern california except for the pirates, shipwreak foolios, and ship traders looking for supplies (fucking lemons and oranges, vitamin C).
I can into the whole story.....but FUCK YOU! Go learn your history pendejos!
Calling Murrieta a Cholo tells you how much of a imbecile that guy is....pinche vato mamon!
:) lol
:)
That Angelfire Idiot forget the fight between Northern and Southern California (in the area of Los Angeles) prior to California being taken by the United States Army.
I hope the guy who writes that Angelfire donkey crap shit is some other nationality or white. If that vato is from a Mexican background, fuck!.... NO WONDER WHITE PEOPLE THINK WERE ALL FUCKING STUPID!!!
:(
Apprantly only smart people who read need to post the same shit 3 times. Good going, way to prove your point, idiot.
:)
I dont understand your discontent?
After I fucked your mother for an outstanding weekend of cheap hotel-monkey asspoking sex, I thought you were be proud of being the inheritor of above average intelligence.
I know your upset over missing the father figure presence in your life and not showing you how to defend yourself from being kicked in the balls....
But at least, minimum respect for the father that busted a nut in your mother's left eye socket....
Now that your above 18 years of age, I dont have to pay child support, so FUCK YOU and Jesus Loves You!
:)
Typical comment from someone who was molested by their girl scout troop leader.
Were you locked in a pastel closet by your Tio and forced you to listen to Reo Speedwagon and Air Supply?
Surely there has to be something wrong with your mental state. I will take a guess, when you were around white people you felt inferior because your penis was too small. Then you moved to an Asian neighborhood and felt inferior because your penis was too small and they drove better than you. You said fuck it, and moved to a black neighborhood where you got frustrated because you couldn't read or dance as well as they did.
You wound up where you are now. Just a kid on a blog, who types with one hand while watching episodes of Sex in the City.
The lack of an interesting monicketr brings up something interesting too. Could that smile face be a picture of your vagina with the two cigarette burns that your transexual mother put on your special place? :)
YOUR COME BACK SUCKS...
YOU HAVE NO SKILLS...
Air supply??? Either a white dude or a Hispanic high school uneducated sell out. hate to say it, but are you from Orange County??
Actually the comeback had all the power of the original blurb.. The illicite motel sex was original as was the pastel room. The mention of lack of father figure in the original post was dually trumped by the penis size comment in the response.. Overall we have a probable tie here as regards one-upmanship.. However the closing comment in the original: "Jesus loves you" brings true distinction to its emotional levity.. You've both run a close race and to declare a winner at this juncture would be premature and arbitrary.. There is the lingering possibility that BOTH posts could come from the same source, JOKER?? Are you promenading your multiples again??
happy face is halarious
:)+ ( = (:)
(:) what does this remind you of?
:)
reminds me of this
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you fucking jackass
;)
Touche!
You too are observant, and perhaps your thoughts not as prurient or salacious as mine!
Thanks for the laugh.
Oh' Mr. Lisps aka (:), :),(o)(O)
where are you?
:)
I'm right here....whats up??
This is nice. It's always exciting when two punctuation marks find each other and all the passion is so tangible.. Forget about what this blog is for, we've got sumthin bigger goin on here..
"Oliver North already confessed to allowing Manuel Noriega to deal drugs into American cities. Why should anyone be naive enough to believe that it stops there? Learn your history, idiot. When the government gets involved with shit like that, you'd better believe people are going to blame them for the consequences. Who do you propose should be blamed for North's involvement with crack cocaine hitting the streets in the 80s, the teachers' union? Snap out of your denial, you mindless fuck."
Listen here you chronological sage. Did Oliver North stick crack pipes in all those idiot's mouth and make them inhale? You would do much better at making sense of life's events by focusing on human behavior rather than your liberal-biased account of history. As long as there are liberal idiots like yourself to provide nifty historical excuses for crackheads, the tide of crack will continue. Crackheads don't need Olver North when they've got liberal enablers like yourself. Keep hitting that pipe moron.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO WISH A HAPPY BIRTHDAY AND MAY YOU REST IN PEACE TO " BLACK BOB " CANTA RANAS WHO RECENTLY PASSED AWAY, WITH MUCH LOVE AND RESPECT !!!!!!
Amen! (To the Happy Birthday sentiment regarding 'Black Bob' from CR)
His carnalito is a good, Christian brother and a friend.
Descansa en paz, Black Bob.
With respect,
Norwalquero
Orale the return of Tijuanero! Good post as usual.
Also just a comment on the Norte propaganda BS including the inane comment that Joaquin Murrieta (not Joaquim that's the Euro spelling) was the first norteno cholo?
Hey ese check out your history and you'll find that Joaquin Murrieta was born and probably returned alive to "Sonora" Mexico. He also spent a lot of time in the Southland as per the many cities and landmarks named after him in SoCal.
This post smacks of "Latino" or "retired jerker" along the lines of his NF psuedo history's on "Brown Pride" that caused Tijuanero to straighten his ass out.
Hey a funny story concerning "Joaquin Murrieta". A while back some old camarada's from LA were visiting and we took them on a trip to the Taos NM area. We stopped for a cold beer or two at a joint in Questa NM and on the wall there they had a "Mural" of Joaquin Murrieta with the "Dicho" underneath that said
"I steal from the rich! And to the poor I tip my hat!"
Fuck ese isn't it suppose to read "I steal from the rich and give to the poor?"
Typical of the NM Chicano Primo's, cabrones son bien "Codos"!
No te creo, puras curadas!
PS: Buy the way "mr anonymus, RJ, chester the trouser pilot, sodbuster in denial, I'm kind of hurt puto cause you don't refer to me anymore as "Don Camote" and my "Camote" is still there joto.
I never should have given this falso a spanish lesson! Que Calo?
My condolences to the friends and family of Black Bob. I did not know him but because he was from Norwalk does anyone know what happened to Eddie "Norwalk" Martinez. He had a Huge *Norwalk* tatoo on one arm and an equally large *Groupe* Tat on the other. We were friends many years ago.
Jim, Groupe.
can't you read? Black Bob wasn't from Norwalk. He was from Canta Ranas.
///can't you read? Black Bob wasn't from Norwalk. He was from Canta Ranas.///
Pac Man: I don't think anyone said that Black Bob was from Norwalk.
SO WHAT DOES BLACK BOB'S BIRTHDATE HAVE TO DO WITH THE SMOG IN L.A.?
After much investigating I found out what happen to WallyFay.
Walter "Wally" Dedrick III
DEDRICK-Walter "Wally" Reuben Dedrick III, 60, of Wallyland and formely of Pasadena died May 5, 2006, at home. He was born March 7, 1948, to Walter Dedrick II and Estelle Pearson Dedrick in Los Angeles. He worked for the CIA and FBI for 20 years and served in the Army from 1966 to 1970. He was a member of California peace officers union, Montebello Golf Club, former member of the Rotary Club of Pasadena, past president and founder of the So. Cal. Chapter of MANBLA and a volunteer at Eisenhower Medical Center. He is survived by his followers at Wallyworld. His expertise and knowledge will be greatly missed at "In The Hat".
A memorial service will be at 11:30 a.m. Saturday at the little chapel on the hill. Inurnment will be private under the direction of Youdiewebury Funeral Home. The family suggests that donations be made to a favorite charity.
Published in the Pasadena Star-News on 5/10/2006.
RIP "amigo"
LOL .... That one is funny. You must be retired with nothing better to do (like myself). I want you at all my parties.
i read in the mafia blog that ftroop gang have a greenlight in the county i guess sana isnt out to help.
that mafia blog has good shit.
http://sur13nationtimes.blogspot.com/
Hey TJ! Got any background on AB member Dale Bretches? He was Paul "Cornfed" Schneiders cellie at Pelican bay SHU when that dog mauling shit went down. I know Cornfed has since rolled but I was wondering what ever happened to Bretches since his name does not appear on the current AB RICO indictment.Did he roll as well?_THANK YOU
I know I am going to regret asking this but what does roll mean?
Good morning to all the gay caballero's of this blog. Gay as in alegre! Let no one misunderstand me please. I am typing from my closet using my mobile lap top via a router becaus I do not want my mother in-law to find me! I call her 'La Tortuga' (the turtle) because of the way she walk. Slow and hunched. And she an ugly women too. Anyway caballero's I enjoy your blog immensely and I feel you all like famiy. My new familia! I go now because I hear La Tortuga on patrol!
My name is Oskar(with a K).
//I know I am going to regret asking this but what does roll mean?//
To roll or not to roll. Also, to snitch or not to snitch. When a vato rolls, he turns informant.
To Roll Up also means to PC up or go to Protective Custody.
So, "Let's Roll!!!"
In regards to the sur13nation blog, don't believe everything you read. First off, a real man knows that you don't talk about things of such nature. Only an idiot would go posting pedo of that nature (so and so having a luz)on the internet. Check this out, the saying goes: Stir the waters to catch fish. Its probably some old juda or some punk who posted that 'bullchit' to see what kinda reaction they can get. All you need is some knucklehead to act on the bunk info and get himself in a wreck. Don't believe the hype fella's. Not saying it's true or not, sounds more like someone fishing for information that's none of their business, sabes? Con respeto...
~P~
Liberalism is an ideology, philosophy, and political tradition which holds liberty as the primary political value.[1] Broadly speaking, liberalism seeks a society characterized by freedom of thought for individuals, limitations on power, especially of government and religion, the rule of law, the free exchange of ideas, a market economy that supports private enterprise, and a transparent system of government in which the rights of minorities are guaranteed. In modern society, liberals favour a liberal democracy in the form of either a republic or a constitutional monarchy, with open and fair elections, where all citizens have equal rights by law and an equal opportunity to succeed[2]. Liberalism rejected many foundational assumptions which dominated most earlier theories of government, such as the Divine Right of Kings, hereditary status, and established religion. Fundamental human rights that all liberals support include the right to life, liberty, and property. In many countries, "modern" liberalism differs from classical liberalism by asserting that government provision of some minimal level of material well-being takes priority over freedom from taxation. Liberalism has it roots in the Western Enlightenment, but the term now encompasses a diversity of political thought, with adherents spanning a large part of the political spectrum, from left to right. In the context of economics, the term "liberalism" refers to economic liberalism.
Why are some of you so scared of liberals? Sounds like a good way to live. Maybe some of you fascists should give it a try.
i always called you don culote, you must have me confused with some other vato
Thanks to the two responses I got on 'roll'.
"Listen here you chronological sage. Did Oliver North stick crack pipes in all those idiot's mouth and make them inhale? You would do much better at making sense of life's events by focusing on human behavior rather than your liberal-biased account of history. As long as there are liberal idiots like yourself to provide nifty historical excuses for crackheads, the tide of crack will continue. Crackheads don't need Olver North when they've got liberal enablers like yourself. Keep hitting that pipe moron."
No, Oliver North never put the crack into anyone's pipe. And, guess what? Nobody forced Oliver North to conspire to sell dope, either. Therefore, he should be rotting in the same prison as Tookie Williams died in. Should only the poor do prison time for conspiracy to sell dope?
And, I like how you tell us that the, 'tide of crack will continue'. And, that it's only the fault of 'liberal idiots'. Never mind the corrupted high ranking military officials, cops, and politicians who look the other way as it floods the streets. If people just wouldn't smoke it, or fire the weapons that somehow find their way to the ghetto, we wouldn't have a problem, right?
To be perfectly honest, I actually agree with that point, even if you are using it to distract us while you duck from the argument as to how guns and drugs get here.
The guns and drugs are finding their way here; And, Lil' Spooky from East Los, or T-Bone from Compton, sure as hell aren't growing them all in their back yards.
Accountability must be held from top to bottom, and that means law enforcement should be applied to the top as much as the bottom. Not only is it not, but the bottom is getting the brunt of the tough prison sentences.
Some poverished teenager gets caught with a small chunk of crack cocaine in his pocket, he's state property. A rich guy gets caught with dope, he's in rehab, and, within a year, back on with his life.
If you want to defend such a bias system, or, lean on that same old crutch called, "It's the best system in the world...", suit yourself. Denial is easier than rational thought. I don't blame you. But, some people, like myself, are more interested in viewing the whole picture, not just one end of it.
Now, by all means, let's put aside the topic of one of the major root causes of gang violence in America, and go back to the titilating tales of war stories between...Haskell Street and Conoga Park.
//Some poverished teenager gets caught with a small chunk of crack cocaine in his pocket, he's state property. A rich guy gets caught with dope, he's in rehab, and, within a year, back on with his life.//
Inequitable application of our laws, for sure. That would be the ONLY valid reason to argue against the death penalty as well. I am a death penalty proponent but I still don't like the inequities in application.
Good thought provoking stuff. I still think the radically bad guys should be strung up!
Good a good lawyer and you too and beat the system!
"Now, by all means, let's put aside the topic of one of the major root causes of gang violence in America, and go back to the titilating tales of war stories between...Haskell Street and Conoga Park."
Well, I'm glad to see that we agree somewhat. The bottom line is that the last line of defense in this unfair and cruel world is our own individual sound judgement. But you're right, let's get back to our regularly scheduled program.
I concur amigo, let me turn my little burrito pepito around, so we can better see the screen.
good post OC half breed, and I wonder when the taxpayers are going to call these Fed Prosecutors out for their expensive (but career enhancing) farce of a trial against the AB.
Death Penalty for practically the whole AB? Based on a truckload of snitches and scumbags, and it all boils down to a "Conspiracy beef"? Come on! get real! the only thing of any consequence that's going to come out of this costly exercise in futility is that these Fed Prosecutors are going to get a lot of cheap career enhancement publicity, the AB will gain more power after the purge of snitches from thier ranks, and there will probably be a rash of murders in the next few years when these informers become obsolete and are fed to the wolves.
Just a question to "Norwalkero" who mentioned the old varrio of "Canta Ranas", which in my former life as a drug dealer, was one of the few varrios that had a no violence, off limits to varrio pedo rule. The other neighborhoods that I was familiar with that had the same reglas in place due to thier value as drug intersections and connections were "Rose Hills", Lopez Mara, and Wilmas to a lesser extent.
Down in your area there was an old neighborhood (I don't know if it still exists?) called "Carmelas" which was off Rosecrans and Valley View?, that had an incredible number of Tecato's there, "Hicks" in El Monte was the same, but it was like a vampire movie when I would happen to be there with what seemed like everyone there walking around like zombies all nodding out, men,women,young and old, all hypes it seemed.
Used to be a place there called "Marquez Mkt" that had the best food around (especially the Caldo de Camaron). Is that varrio still in existence?
IN REGARDS TO CARMELAS ...... THAT SMALL VARRIO STILL EXISTS , AND STILL THE SAME WITH HYPES EVERY WHERE THE EYE CAN SEE !!!!! AS FOR MARQUEZ MARKET STILL THE BEST COMIDA IN 90650 !!!!!
Carmelas....are not active, aside from breaking into cars to pay for their drug habits....
any neigborhood is free to take target practice at them....they wont fire back...too busy chasing the next hit.....but they do duck and bow...
kinda like canta ranta....but the rantas jump and hop....lol:)
Good stuff , keep it up.. GJ
Above said,
"but they do duck and bow"
Gentlemen one has to remember that in a crisis one omits a bow or two, so while pistol shots are being directed towards you ducking will suffice.
Como esta mi familia? I am on the internet now.
Oskar(with a K).
MONGOLS HELLS ANGELS
Caballeros,
I was just over at "Dave's World 81" web site (he is the president of the Nevada Nomads Hells Angels chapter) where I linked up to his "My Space" and was mildly surprised to see A "Bandidos MC" link on Dave's "my friends" adds, and once I was on this Bandido's page, he in turn Had two Mongol MC "friend" links. Both these two Mongol links had the usual PR pictures one expects to see but I guess I was surprised to see two signs with war overtures for certain. One had the HA's death skull fractured into two, then crossed out, plus the caption encirclingit that said "Fuck'em Til Their Feathers Fall Off!!". The second one, was similar but the caption read "AHAMD Adios". I am not taking sides, but my initial impression was that it was balsy, but what do I know?! One of the Mongol pages was http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=66632221
I would like to hear some feed back from those who are more tuned in as to the ongoing beef between these two clubs.
Oskar
Hicks" in El Monte was the same
Is this the same place the parolee's would end up at-or is the "hoyo" a different place. I heard about this place as a youngster growing up in NELA. Whatever happened to Cypress Park boys?
MONGOLS HELLS ANGELS
Caballeros,
yeah,i saw that shit too,aint nothing special about it,the only thing is that the HELLS ANGELS and BANDIDOS look like REAL BIKERS,and the mongols look like a bunch of WANNA BE BIKERS! FAKE ASS CHOLOS AND PRETTY BOYS TO ME!..and who gives a fuck about their fued! everone knows that in the biker world THE HELLS ANGELS have a history that would make the mongols shit in their pants,let alone kick their ass's in todays world!....mongols have to many cholo dropouts and bunch of wanna be's....their not a brotherhood,they talk shit about one another all the time!..
"Hicks" in El Monte was the same, but it was like a vampire movie when I would happen to be there with what seemed like everyone there walking around like zombies all nodding out, men,women,young and old, all hypes it seemed.
I grew up in El Monte "HAYES" my dad was from "HICKS camp" and yea he was a tecato, my sister still lives in that neighborhood but today its a lot nicer area, the old camp is long gone tore down in the 70's the original familys moved out and alot of Cambodians moved in to the new houses, you can actually see "normal" people out after the sun goes down. A few of the OG homies, friends of my dad still show up to the annual Barrio reunions. There were some bad motorscooters there back in the day 1940's, 50's 60's and early 70's the EMPD would'nt even venture into the camp, from the historia I hear just one cop named "Red" was allowed in. They even made an old movie there called "Carmen Jones" it was supposed to be shot in the jungle, so they filmed it right there and didn't change a thing.
"RIP" Mikeo,Paty,Eddie Garcia, Maton,Poli,Emilio,Felipe "Nibbles",
Goyo,Chivio,Chicle, and all the other "OG" batos de El Monte HICKS.
Growing up in Hayes wasn't much different as a matter of fact the only difference was that we had sidewalks, back in the days I could stand on my front porch, throw a rock in any direction and It would probably hit a tecato in the head once it landed. I remember tecatos from Azusa, Maravilla, Puente, Pico Rivera, Bolen, and all points in between would come to the Barrio and score. But thats all changed, for the better, I guess. Alot of the homies are either dead or doing life. You can still run into a few of them at the methadone clinic on Valley if you go early enough. There were some "tough cookies" my protoge's were guys like Mon,Chavito,Hivi,Pennyface,Joe Cariocas,David Mantecas,Casimiro, to name a few.
I my self have found a better way to live and I do it "1 day at a time"
Keep the stories coming and if anyone out there has any knowledge of the people I mentioned above or about the Barrios awritten about, let it be known.
AMERICAS - Deportation Feeds a Cycle of Violence in Central America (by Sam Logan, Ben Bain and Kate Kairies, IRC)
Thursday 11 May 2006.
Since the early nineties, criminal gang networks operating across the border between the United States and Central America have exploded in power and number. The gangs take advantage of loopholes in international immigration and deportation policies to spread their influence through extreme violence.
The Mara Salvatrucha, or MS-13, has become one of the “Most Wanted” of these gangs. What began as a loosely-connected group of Salvadoran immigrant youth banded together for protection in the join-or-die gang culture of Los Angeles has now grown into a transnational criminal hydra involved in murder, extortion, and some gun and drug smuggling.
U.S. deportation policies aggressively send undocumented gang members back to their home countries in Central America. They export U.S. gang culture and hardened criminals to countries whose internal security forces are ill-equipped to deal with the new threat. The street gangs have rapidly grown beyond being just a neighborhood problem to presenting a real national security threat in these countries.
Criminal deportees bring tactics, organization, and other criminal skills learned in U.S. prisons. These abilities translate into more sophisticated networks that have created a web that spans across Honduras, El Salvador, and Guatemala. Over time this network has made some links with organized crime, acting at times like foot soldiers to help with smuggling, assassination, and other duties.
Street gangs remain distinct from organized crime. But they have become a leading cause of insecurity in Central America. The region’s history with clandestine death squads, drug and gun smuggling, corruption, and violence during the U.S.-supported “dirty wars” provided a propitious culture for the gangs’ insertion into society. The U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation as well as national police in three Central American countries actively seek solutions to break this 20-year-old cycle, but U.S. authorities and their Central American colleagues face a difficult game of catch-up.
Born in the USA
The civil wars that ravaged Guatemala, Honduras, and El Salvador in the 1980s displaced tens of thousands of Central Americans from their homes into Mexico and the United States. Many of these families settled in cities in the United States close to the Mexican border. Cities such as Los Angeles absorbed large communities of Central Americans who sought to carve out a space in the city’s poor neighborhoods that had been controlled by Mexican street gangs since as early as the 1950s.
The word “mara” loosely translated from Spanish means group or gang. Salvatrucha, in Salvadoran Spanish slang, means a streetwise Salvadoran. Mara Salvatruchas is a term that refers to Salvadoran immigrants who formed gangs in the 70s and 80s to protect themselves from their rivals in the street gangs that dominated Los Angeles at that time.
The number 13 marks the position of the letter “m” in the alphabet and is a nod to the Mexican Mafia, a gang that controls the prisons in Southern California. Put together, the name “MS-13” states membership of a gang, primarily made up of Salvadorans, that holds allegiance to the Mexican Mafia in Southern California.
The MS-13 formed in California, but over the years has spread into Central America due to transnational movement of gang members through choice or deportation. Since the mid-90s, the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) has actively deported tens of thousands of convicted criminals back to their countries of birth in Central America.
After September 11, 2001, INS was absorbed into U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), under the umbrella of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS). ICE, working with the other DHS components, presents a more comprehensive approach to tackling transnational gang violence. However, years of questionable deportation policies have left the organization with a formidable challenge.
In many cases, deported individuals were brought to the United States at a young age. So when they are deported to Central America, they have little to depend on in their home countries, outside of gang connections.
The MS-13 is now an established presence in Central America. It actively recruits young men and women, who in turn eventually find themselves back in the United States as illegal immigrants. This cycle, fed in part by U.S. deportation strategies, has increased MS-13 numbers in both Central America and the United States, where there is now a significant MS-13 presence on both the east and west coasts.
Over the years, the MS-13 grew and members moved beyond Los Angeles into other U.S. cities. MS-13 presence has been spotted in over 33 U.S. states as well as the District of Colombia. There are an estimated 8,000 to 10,000 MS-13 members in the United States, according to the U.S. Department of Justice.
As the MS-13 grew throughout the United States their clashes with rivals from the M-18 gang, as well as other street gangs, earned MS-13 members a strong reputation for brutal violence. It is widely known that the MS-13 weapon of choice is a machete.
Recruitment is often self-selective, targets pre-adolescents, and more often than not leads to a life of crime where the only escape is through serious injury or death.
Gang Life
When he was nine, Luis, a former member of the Mara Salvatrucha street gang, started hanging out with gang members in Southern California. By the time he was 13 he was considered an unofficial member of the MS-13. His official membership began when he was “jumped in.” This process is part of gang law that requires that new members be jumped by a small group of peers who punch, kick, and otherwise pummel the new member for the duration of the initiation ceremony. Enduring the beating is a show of toughness and loyalty to the gang.
“ When it became law that everybody had to get jumped in, my homeboys said, ‘Hey, you want to keep chillin’ with us, you’re gonna have to get jumped in’,” Luis told the IRC Americas Program. “I was 16 or 17 when I got jumped in,” he said.
Once young men and women pass through this tough initiation, they join a large group of peers who provide support, protection, financial stability, and companionship. Luis explained that, although in the United States he has never seen kids as young as seven or eight jumped in, he has seen 7-year-old kids already covered with MS-13 tattoos in Central America. “They’re basically homeless children,” he said.
Street gangs create social networks that rely on crime to finance what is essentially a lifestyle that allows youths to survive in a world where there are limited opportunities, a lack of parental presence, and little to no hope for a chance at a better life.
Luis lived for a time in Virginia with his mother, and then eventually moved back to California to live with his father and aunts, but there was no central parental figure in his life. So his chosen family became his street gang.
“When I grew up and everything I joined the gang, I felt as though I owed something to them, because they were there for me when I actually needed someone,” Luis explained.
“They showed me love; they bought me shoes, clothes, stuff like that. So I felt comfortable with them. I didn’t sense any danger, or any fear that they were going to get me in trouble. I only had positive thoughts. I knew what they did, but they explained to me why they do what they did.”
In the slums of Los Angeles and other cities in California, the kids that come from broken or separated families in marginal immigrant communities quickly fall into gangs. It’s unavoidable, according to Luis.
“If you walk down the block, there is another gang there. Every block is a different gang, so people who live over there, especially in neighborhoods where there are gangs, it’s not like you really have a choice,” he said.
Getting Out
During a high speed car chase with police about five years ago, Luis lost his left leg after he flew through the front windshield of his car in a head-on collision. While recovering in the hospital, family members pleaded with him to see his survival of the crash as a miracle, and a reason to consider if staying in MS-13 was worth dying for.
“It did work. That’s when I decided to chill, and I did chill for a while because I was in recovery. But then I ran into some friends at a party a few months later, and they wanted me to come back into the game. I couldn’t say no, because I knew if I didn’t do something to prove I was still chillin’ with them, they would try and mess me up, even stab me, for not being loyal to them.”
When the other members of MS-13 asked Luis to do a car-jacking to prove he was still in the gang, they left him alone at the scene when a local cop approached and caught Luis stealing the car, landing him in jail. After being betrayed by his friends, “the last thing I wanted while in prison was to hear from MS ... I was so angry, and felt like I had been betrayed, almost like I had been set up,” he explained.
Back on the streets after serving some time for the car-jacking, Luis continued to question what kind of friends his gang buddies really were, guys who had forced him to commit a crime, and then abandoned him in the face of police heat. Even though his mind was now filling with thoughts of leaving MS, he continued to run with the gang, and was eventually arrested again, this time for possession of cocaine. Luis is still in the United States, working to stay there and break out of the cycle that has trapped so many other gang members.
Deportation Policy Exacerbates the Problem U.S. immigration authorities began aggressively targeting illegal immigrants within the U.S. prison system in 1996. Many prisoners were deported back to their home countries upon completion of their prison terms.
In many cases, young men who were arrested for assault, drug dealing, or other relatively low-level profit-making criminal activity entered the prison system. U.S. immigration authorities then identified them as not having proper documentation and tagged them for deportation.
Many of these young men came to the United States as children in the 1980s with their parents to flee the civil wars in Central America. They do not have strong familial connections in Central America, and in some cases do not even speak Spanish well. Often their “return” to their homeland is like arriving alone in a foreign country.
The growing problem of the MS-13 in Central America highlights inadequate immigration controls and poor deportation policies. To effectively tackle the problem requires binational efforts that combine immigration reform, changes in deportation policies, as well as domestic security measures. It also requires U.S. policies to effectively handle the realities of immigration as well as manage foreign nationals, both legal and undocumented, living in the United States.
In fiscal year 1997, the INS deported 111,794 illegal foreigners. Over half had been convicted of a crime in the United States. It was the first time the INS had deported over 100,000 illegal residents in one year.
“In that process [the United States] has managed to export U.S. gang-style culture, customs, and contacts,” said Geoff Thale, a Senior Associate for Central America at the Washington Office on Latin America.
Gang members that are sent back to their home countries bring with them more sophisticated methods, organizational strategies, and contacts in the United States-all facilitating a more aggressive and organized criminal enterprise. These factors combine to create a loosely-tied network of street gangs that have complete control over towns and suburban areas in Honduras, El Salvador, and Guatemala.
Their often illegal status in the United States has thrust the U.S. Department of Homeland Security’s section of Immigration and Customs Enforcement to the forefront of U.S. authorities’ strategies. This national security and international staging approach has caused some friction with local officials who would prefer to deal with it within their own security strategies.
Central American Security
Meanwhile, Central American governments have taken a zero-tolerance approach to dealing with street gangs. While many observers agree that the gang problem is a symptom of large-scale social problems rooted in poverty, unemployment, and limited opportunity, government officials have harnessed popular support among voters through promoting policies commonly referred to as “hard hand” and “iron fist” or mano dura in Spanish.
Mano dura policies specifically target street gangs, also referred to as pandillas. In El Salvador, the Super Mano Dura policy is made up of four axes, Salvadoran spokesman for the Ministry of Government, Porfirio Chica, told the Americas Program. They are: prevention, rehabilitation, combating crime, and reinsertion. Yet the policy, when implemented, often leads to national police officers targeting young men and women for arrest based on tattoos, loitering on certain street corners, or simply association with known gang members. Cops who arrest gang members see many of them released within 24 hours due to lack of evidence pertaining to real crimes. “Of the 10,000 street gang members currently located in the Salvadorian criminal database, over 3,000 currently reside in prison,” Chica said, adding that “because of a tendency for criminals to organize themselves in prison we have taken the leaders and placed them in separate maximum security prisons.”
These policies have spurred an unofficial war between gang members and the police. Politicians and other members of Central America’s elite social classes have also been accused of paying individuals, including off-duty police officers, to hunt down and assassinate gang members. The retaliation to these street vigilante actions from MS-13 members has been brutal, violent, and widespread.
Carmen Aida Ibarra, a researcher with the Guatemala-based Myrna Mack Foundation, told the Americas Program that “corruption plays an important role because it is the principal factor that impedes the deconstruction of clandestine groups.” Private individuals or interests perpetuate the illegal violent activities of these groups by paying them not to kill communists but young gang members.
Five years after El Salvador’s civil war ended in 1991, the country boasted the world’s highest death rate per capita, with over 150 deaths for every 100,000 inhabitants. Polls showed that during this time, some 46% of the population believed that citizens retained the right to deliver justice with their own hands.
While authorities have been targeting gang and criminal violence, the success of polices like mano dura remains debatable.
“El Salvador still holds the region’s number one spot for per capita homicides,” Ricardo Montoya, analyst with the Research Foundation for the Application of Law, a Salvadoran research organization, said in a recent interview. Montoya explained that crime, particularly homicide, has increased in El Salvador since the first application of mano dura politics in 2003.
In 2005 there were 3,812 homicides, the highest figure in seven years. This is an average of ten to 12 murders a day in a county of some 6.7 million people. According to the Legal Medical Institute, over 80% of those killed were shot in the head.
Guatemala currently registers over 100 homicides per 100,000 inhabitants, and many of those killed are young men believed to be associated with street gangs. In 2004 some 5,553 youths were killed in Guatemala, according to Emilio Goubaud, director of the Association for the Prevention of Crime, a Guatemalan organization.
Perhaps the most public display of street gang activity happened in Honduras in December 2004 when a group of MS-13 members attacked a bus with automatic rifles. They killed 28 civilians and wounded 12 more. Their attack is considered to be retaliation for mano dura policies promoted by the Honduran government. Specific death threats, left in a note found at the scene of the crime, were made to Honduran President Ricardo Maduro and Congressional leader Lobo Sosa.
Transnational Cooperation
“When [gang members] came out of the prison systems of the United States and went back [to their home countries], that’s when they became more formalized. Then what happened is that the environment down there was right for these kinds of criminal activities and it just spread,” Stanley Stoy, acting director for the FBI’s MS-13 National Gang Task Force, told Americas Program.
Stoy explains that the FBI began looking at the MS-13 more closely in late 2004 due to its level of violence and transnational presence. The FBI has been active in Central American countries, especially El Salvador, assisting with intelligence gathering and promoting professionalism in the national police. On Sept. 7, 2005 the FBI participated in a day-long, large transnational operation that included more than 6,400 federal agents and other officers in 15 U.S. states, Mexico, and Central America. The operation netted 659 arrests of MS-13 and other transnational gang members: 77 in the United States, 232 in El Salvador, 162 in Honduras, 98 in Guatemala, and 90 in Mexico’s Chiapas state, which shares a border with Guatemala.
The operation’s success demonstrated the benefits of transnational cooperation, but some analysts warn that there are still over 100,000 street gang members in Honduras. Other estimates show that there are as many as some 600,000 street gang members in El Salvador.
While these numbers may be inflated, they illustrate the extent of the problem. On Sept. 1, 2005, El Salvador even took the step of deploying 1,000 soldiers to reinforce police efforts to contain street gangs there.
Experts like Geoff Thale agree that military involvement is likely to exacerbate the problem, as other heavy-handed actions have done, rather than bring a rapid solution. Increased professionalism among Central American police officers is perhaps the quickest route to improving security there. U.S. deportation practices should be more sensitive to Central America’s street gang problems. But root causes based in poverty and limited opportunity in Central American countries must be addressed before this endemic security problem can be adequately combated.
The FBI says that there is no link between MS-13 and al-Qaida or other terrorist groups, but experts believe that the MS-13 and other street gang groups have become more and more involved with the elite organized crime groups that traffic guns and drugs in the region.
If this is the case, then what used to be a regional problem could very well stretch into a hemispheric phenomenon, where Colombian and Mexican organized crime elements outsource their dirty work to Central America’s street gangs. The recent efforts by U.S. authorities and their Central American counterparts represent a good start in tackling this complex, multi-faceted transnational problem. What remains to be seen, however, is whether this new concerted, multi-national approach can undo two decades of problematic, uncoordinated efforts.
“It may develop into something much greater if we didn’t address the problem,” said Stoy of the FBI. “We realize that if we didn’t do anything toward this problem or to prevent its entrenchment here in the United States it would overtake us.”
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ITS GOOD TO READ SOMETHING WORTH POSTING,AND I HOPE YOU DONT GIVE UP AND ABANDON US HERE,THERE IS STILL SOME OF US THAT WANT TO READ WHAT YOU AND A FEW OTHERS HAVE TO SHARE WITH US,SO THANKS FOR THAT LAST POST YOU PUT UP!AND KEEP THEM COMING! THANKS!
HOLLENBECK RESIDENT!
Thanks for the good responses to Hells Angels, Hick's, and TJ / Hollenbeck Resident. This is the way this blog should be all the time!
Thanks for the response's and info about "Carmelas", "Hick's" and "Hayes" and "Marquez Mkt" (I haven't been there in years but in the early 70's used to eat there all the time while on my "regular delivery routes", They were at first a pure Chicano/Mexicano joint where you got your own beer from the cooler and sat down at a small row of chairs in front of the steam table with all the food in front of you, carne asada, lengua, buche, tripas de leche, cabeza, and they gave you a big stack of hand made tortillas, or I would always order the "Caldo de Camaron" which to this day I have never tasted any better anywhere!
The last time I was there, which was 10 years ago probably it had kind of been "discovered" and was bigger and had tables with a lot of business people in suits from the new business parks that had been built in the area. I'm glad to hear the place is still good and God bless the owners for making some money. I still can picture the owners, a short little vieja prieta with glasses and a grumpy face, and her Marido an old Mexicano that was just there and never said shit about nothing!
Also Varrio Hicks in the day, "60's" when I was around, was a real trip. I and others from my neighborhood had done time with some good vato's from "Hicks" and we would sell or score (depending on who was holding!) drugs to each other, mainly carga but also pills, reds,yellows, rainbows,.
I recall vividly one time, a few of us were there on a Saturday night and the vatos from "Hicks" used to hang out at the end of a dead end, dirt street, there was a dirt lot with some big trees around and they had slaughtered a goat and were cooking it over an open fire! Everyone was drinking T-Bird wine, smoking mota and slamming right out in the open there with no apparent fear at all.
We being from the city and always paranoid about the "Ruco's" and getting busted were kind of uneasy about all the "pachanga" going on but were told by the "Hicks" vato's
"Calmado! the Jura never comes down here except on a Sunday morning to collect a body or two!
"Que Huevo's"!
Also the other El Monte varrio at the time was "Varrio Hayes", and we knew them because they held the power at the old "El Monte Legion Stadium".
That was a beautiful time when before the "San Bernardino Frwy" was built, we used to "caravan" from the Lincoln Hts and Eastside LA area all the way out on "Valley BLvd." to the "Legion Stadium", which was built like a giant red barn. It was a sight to see on a Sat. night when hundreds of low rider fine looking old "Chevys" all shined up, bien "aplanado's" cross bar or spider hubcaps on the whitewall tires, "Appleton spotlights" chrome shining like a motherfucker, would be cruising down Valley Blvd. all full of vato loco's all "Dressed down" creased Khakis, Counties, Long Sleeved "Sir Guy" shirts with Cufflinks (de riguer!) and many with the fine looking,smelling like gardenias, "Jainas" sitting close, and looking straight ahead!
You either had "Art Laboe" or "Huggie Boy" holding court and you could dance to groups like the Penguins, Medallions, Olympics, Paragon's, I saw the early "James Brown there falling out into the audience singin like a maniac and doing "Please,Please,Please,". And they always had "The Masked Phantom Band lead by "Handsome Jim Balcom" (they were masked because suppossedly they were famous musicians who had to play undercover),. Everyone who was anyone singing "Rythym and Blues" and "OLdies" performed at the old "El Monte Legion Studium".
They had around the huge dance floor, "bleachers" for seats, and the vatos from "Hayes" were always there in the best viewing area and deep in numbers.
We knew some of these vato's and were on good terms with them so we always went up in that area and shot the shit and smoked some grifa and nobody fucked with us.
They were so well known there that many of the performers would score from the "Hayes" vatos there. I remember smoking weed there with some of the performers like "Don and Dewey" (I'm leaving it all up to you"), "Bobby Day"(Rocking Robin"),"Little Julian Herrera"(I remember Linda), "Bo Diddley" (Bo Diddley's a gun slinger) and others.
It was a beautiful time and place and I'm sure many of the LA youngsters exist today because their parents met at the old EL Monte Legion Stadium.
Probably many don't give a shit but while I was on "Memory Lane" at the "El Monte Legion Stadium" I had a "flashback" and thought I would see if anyone else remembers that during the middle of the show they would kick up the energy by having "Handsome Jim Balcomb, and the Masked Phantom Band" do thier famous rendition of "Corrido Rock" where everyone would hold hands and swing around dancing and bumping into each other in a frantic display of energy. It was a perfect opportunity to cop a feel from the "fina's" and always guaranteed to start a few chingasos with everyone bumping into each other.
And then at the show's end they would always play the slow dreamy rendition of "Harlem Nocturne" by "Johnny Otis". THis was when if you were soltero you would have the chance to "hook up" and get a phone number from one of the "Jaina's".
im about to let you fake vatos know whats really going on and the real side,my side.i live in malibu ,you know p.c.h. representer.and i think orange county and l.a. are just catching up to us.we've been pioneering in this gangster shit for as long as my great grampa can remember.we need the respect we deserve,and earned.and if you pinche vatos didnt know,we got malibu originals,p.c.h.d.a.(pacific coast highway devils advocates),rich rollin riders.so go ahead and test us and you'll find out what time it really is.
Hey Don Q, thanks for the flash back, you write well and you have a style as does Tijuana Jailer that I enjoy reading. I was seventeen in 1970 but I remember always hearing announcements on KRLA and KFWB about the El Monte Legion Stadium dances in the early and middle 1960's. I lived in the SFV then and still do but I spent the 1970's with Groupe in ELA. Perhaps someday on a "pendejada" and share what was going on. I'd like to hear how it was with other readers. You _wally's warriors_ might think who would care? But I'd bet a lot of us would find it interesting if _you_ have anything to share.
JIM
Since were totally off topic...
rare deleted scenes from Star Wars!!!
http://howtorockstar.blogspot.com/2006/05/uncovered-scenes-from-original-star.html
So... when are the racist Federal prosecutors going to go after the BGF and the rest of "organized" mayates?
The FEDs are racist for going after white people? I have to let that one simmer for bit and see if I understand what you are trying to say.
"Organized" Mayates....Oxy Moron anyone?
Funny, how about
Aunt Jemima Light?
"Organized" Mayates....Oxy Moron anyone?"
That's why that shit was in quotes. So are the Feds going to step up or are they just a bunch of self-hating pansy ass white San Fagcisco bithces?
"The FEDs are racist for going after white people? I have to let that one simmer for bit and see if I understand what you are trying to say."
The Feds have gone after the whites and the browns that are already within the prison system. It seems odd that the blacks are somehow missing from this crackdwon. I guess with the crooked ass fuckers like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton running around and crying racism with the smallest of provocation, self-hating whitey is scared shitless and wont move against the BGF, DC Blacks, etc.
carmelas is call caca levas.
Quick note:
When mentioning Jesse Jackson you must preface it with "Reverend".
The RE-V-E-R-E-N-D Jesse Jackson...
Try saying it in a "nasaly" pompous manner, letting it resonate on your upper palate (roof of the mouth).
Impress your friends.
Oskar(with a K).
I HEARD EL MONTE DANCES SUCKED....
THE ALEXANDIRA HOTEL IN DOWNTOWN WAS WHERE THE FINEST HYNAS HANGED OUT....ACCORDING TO THE REAL OGs
PS - THE MIDNIGHTERS SUCKED!
ALL THE REJECT UGLY LOOKING CHICANOS HALF A NUT LOSERS WENT OVER TO EL MONTE LEGION FOR FAGGOT DANCES........
THE GIRLS WERE WHORES....TOO. THAT'S HOW MOST OF YOU FUCKERS ENDED UP BORN....IN THE BACK SEAT OF AN IMPALA STATION WAGON WITH A AIR LEAK ON THE BACK TIRE............
YOU MOTHERFUCKERS WERE PUSHING AROUND YOUR CHEVY DELRAY...WITH A BROKEN WINDSHIELD, NO HEADLIGHTS, TIED ON BUMPER WITH ELECTRICAL WIRES ..... DOWN WHITTIER BLVD......
YOU MOTHERFUCKERS STILL DRIVE AROUND YOUR MOTHER'S GREMLINS AND FORD PINTOS IN SAN GABRIEL AND EL MONTE....STAYING HOME AND SMOKING METHAMPHETAMINE, WATCHING BLACK ON WHITE GIRL PORNO VIDEOS....
CHEAP NAME "RIBBON" BEER DRINKING BOTTLE SIZE EYEGLASS WEARING HAIRY BELLY DISABLITY COLLECTING WRINKING MEXICAN WOMEN TATTOO CARNIVAL RIDING THREE FLOWER GREASE WEARING MOTHERFUCKING FAGGOTS....
WRINKLE****ERROR
Thanks for the helpful hint on how to pronounce Jesse Jackson's nombre'... I usually put it out with more of a chuckle at the end,because really in this day and age, the ol' rev needs more than the title to command any respect.. I mean just understanding him requires a minor degree in Speech Therapy, and then there's his penchant for attaching himself to any cause that will generate a smidgen of press.. Ol Boy longs for the "glory days" when he stood out on that balcony in Atlanta and pointed in the direction of James Earl Ray's rifle shot and sealed his credibility for the next 30 yrs.. But that's all wearing thin.. Your Raza had Cesar, his had Martin. Both men of peace, and their messages still resonate with your elders. As a designated "white" individual in this madcap society I have no mentor. Hell, Jack Kennedy porked Marilyn (that's a hero in my book) but then his bro punked at Chappaquidick, and he's nullified by mere relation to the weaker bro.. Oliver North's name came up earlier? Reagan called him a "modern American hero".. I'm sorry but he were'nt nuttin but a wannabe gun-runner and mindless drone.. There's something unsettling about a military without a conscience, but that's what makes warriors be they Marine or EME soldado doing the designated "work" for the big homies..
Find me a great white hero! Teddy Roosevelt had the huevos, with that horseride up San Juan Hill, but damn, everybody knows he was trying to emulate Emiliano Zapata with that mustache!
Floyd Patterson died today. If he was'nt black i'd give him my vote, for his sheer tenacity, having been "knocked down" more than anyone at the time.. But he got up. R.I.P. Aw fuck it! If ya'll have no one better'n Floyd Let's give him the "OSKAR" at least for the day.. He were'nt no Jesse and he were'nt no Kennedy. He was fast, had great footwork, and fought men 20 lbs heavier.. R.I.P.
JESUS!!! What got MR Anon's panties all in a bunch?? WE were doing so good.. There's no dealing with a psychotic mind when it begins to misfire..
"Marquez Mkt"
IF ITS AS GOOD AS YOU SAY?..THEN PLEASE LET ME KNOW EXACTLY WHERE IT IS,IM DOWN TO GET SOME CALDO,AND IM BEING SERIOUS TOO!SO JUST POST THE DIRECTIONS OR ADDRESS I'D APPRECIATE IT! THANKS!
AS FOR THE EL MONTE LEGION STADUIM,IVE HEARD PLENTY OF STORIES ABOUT IT,THESE OLD VETERANO FROM LIL EASTSIDE TOLD ME THAT WHEN HE WAS YOUNG HE USE TO GO PARTY THERE,AND HE HAD HOMEBOYS FROM DIFFERENT VARRIOS,AND HOW EVERYONE WOULD MEET UP THERE AND HAVE A BALL,PLENTY OF GOOD TIMES AND A COUPLE OF RUMBLES DUE TO THE FACT OF LIL PEDOS THAT WOULD HAPPEN THERE,I REALLY DONT REMEMBER IT ALL IN DETAIL,BUT HIS STORIES WERE PRETTY GOOD,AND IVE HEARD FROM OTHERS TOO,SO IM SURE IT WAS THE PLACE TO BE.
AS FOR ME WHEN I STARTED TO DRIFT INTO THE CALLES,IT WAS ABOUT THE CINCO DE MAYOS,4RTH OF JULYS OVER IN LINCOLN PARK,THERE WAS VARRIOS LIKE A MOTHER IN THERE,ALL KINDS OF VARRIOS!YOU HAD SERENO IN THERE WITH THE BLACK AND YELLOW JERSEYS,HAZARD AND THE RGBOYS WITH THEIR JERSEYS ON,CLOVER ALWAYS HAD A LIL GREEN ON,THE VATOS FROM ES18ST WOULD BE THERE,AND EVEN THE WS18ST WOULD ROLL UP ON THE BUS FROM DOWNTOWN,YOU HAD FICKET(NO LONGER ACTIVE)WALKING AROUND,VICKYSTOWN,HIGHLANDS WOULD BE THERE,BUT IN SMALL NUMBERS,THEY ALWAYS DID HOLD UP THEIR OWN EVEN THOUGH THEIR VARRIO WAS LIKE A CIRLED STREET UP ON A HILL,AND SO MANY OTHER VARRIO AS WELL,EVERYONE WOULD JUST CHILL AND BE DRINKING ENJOYING THE MUSIC FROM TIERRA,MALO
AND WHO EVER ELSE WOULD BE SINGING IT UP,EVERY YEAR IT WAS THE SAME FAMILIES AND VARRIOS JUST LISTENING TO THE MUSIC,THERE WAS SOME GOOD TIMES THERE,AS TIME GOES ON,THINGS ALWAYS CHANGE
BUT THE MEMORIES ARE ALWAYS GOOD,AND I DONT MIND HEARING ABOUT THE EL MONTE LEGION STADIUM OR ANY OTHER FUNCTION THE RAZA ENJOYED IN THE PAST,NOW YOU'LL NEVER SEE A PLACE LIKE THAT,I REMEMBER WHEN THE OLDIE CONCERTS STARTED TOURING SOME YEARS BACK,BUT IM TALKING ABOUT THE VERY FIRST ONES,AT THE UNNIVERSAL AMPHITHEATRE,AND ANAHIEM CONVENTION CENTER AND ALSO THE GREEK THEATRE,AND GLEN HELEN IN I.E.,THIS WAS ABOUT 12 YEARS AGO OR SO,I THOUGHT WOW! LOOK AT ALL THESE VARRIOS AGAIN,JUST CHILLIN HAVING A GOOD TIME,I SEEN GENTE I HADNT SEEN IN YEARS,OLDER VATOS WITH THEIR FAMILIES AND VARRIOS RESPECTING ONE ANOTHER,ROLLING UP IN THE PARKING LOTS IN YOUR RIDE!FEELING GOOD YOU KNOW!....BUT THEN THE NEWER GENERATION GOT WIND OF IT,AND THEN AFTER A WHILE THE MUSIC WAS STILL GOOD,BUT THE VIBE CHANGED,IT WAS MORE ABOUT THE STROLLING AND MADDOGG SHIT THEN THE MUSIC ITSELF,
I DIDNT SEE THE POINT IN PAYING GOOD MONEY TO SEE A SHOW,AND WALK AROUND THE WHOLE TIME ACTING LIKE YOUR HARD,AND AFTER A COUPLE OF YEARS THATS ALL IT WAS,YOUNGER CROWD,TO DRUNK,STARTING SHIT AND FUCKING IT UP...BUT ITS ALL GOOD! I MEAN,IF YOU KNOW WHERE YOUR ENEMIES ARE,THEN GO HANDLE YOU KNOW?BUT DONT GO TO A OLDIES CONCERT AND ACT HARD WITH THE SHERIFFS STANDING THERE! CMON! THATS PURO PEDO!...BUT ANYWAYS I STILL GO ONCE AND WHILE TO THE CONCERTS,GET FUCKED UP AND SING ALONG,AND I HAVE GOTTEN IN A COUPLE OF FIGHTS,NOTHING I STARTED
BUT I WONT BACK DOWN FOR A PUNK THAT THINKS HE'S GONNA PUT IN WORK! ESPECIALLY AT AN OLDIES CONCERT!!..AND IM NOT A VETERANO EITHER.....SO I COULD CHILL IN A ROOM FULL OF ENEMIES AND NOT EVEN SWEAT IT,JUST ENJOY THE MUSIC! CAUSE IF I REALLY WANTED TO PUT IN WORK I'D GO THEIR VARRIO,AND SHOW THEM FIRST HAND ON THEIR OWN TURF WHATS ON MY MIND!BUT LIKE THE REAL VATO THAT I AM,I DONT MIND HOMIE,ENJOY THE MUSIC,THATS WHAT CONCERTS ARE FOR!....BUT THATS A LIL OF MY RANTING AND RAVING..LOL!
AND AS FOR THE ALEXANDRIA HOTEL,IM SURE THE LADIES WERE FINE THERE TO!..I MEAN,A LADY IS FINE ANYWHERE QUE NO?....BETTER THAN A VATO! BUT ANYWAYS,.. IM SURE ALL PLACES HAD THEIR OWN CROWD,AND THEY WHERE ALL UP AND POPPING! ITS LIKE TODAY,YOU JUST DONT GO TO ONE CLUB ALL WEEK RIGHT?NOT UNLESS YOU HANGOUT AT TEQUILAS PERIOD!
DIFERENT DAY,DIFFERENT SPOT!
AND AS FOR THE MIDNITERS....C'MON BRO!..."WHITTIER BLVD" "THATS ALL" AND "SAD GIRL!!" CMON! HOMIE..IT'S "SAD GIRL!" IF YOUR A REAL VATO THAT STICKS TO TRADITION OR JUST A PLAIN ASS GEE! YOU HAVE TO LIKE "SAD GIRL!"... IT STILL GETS AIR PLAY TILL THIS DAY!
HOLLENBECK RESIDENT!
(excuse my spelling,was working)
MY AUNT DATED ONE OF THOSE PUTOS FROM THE MIDNIGHTERS......BACK IN THE DAYS GROWING UP IN ALISO PICO
SHE'S PROBABLY DOWNER THAN ALL YOU MOTHERFUCKERS PUT TOGETHER...
SHE SAYS THE SAME OLD SHIT I DO ....
"THE MIDNIGHTERS SUCK!"
THAT'S WHY I ALWAYS CARRY MY STRAP AT THE THOSE CONCERTS AND EVERYWHERE ELSE I GO.....
NEVER KNOW WHEN I HAVE TO SMOKE A FOOL FOR TRYING TO MAD DOG ME AND RUNNING THAT MOUTH!
There's a full moon out tonight --- and that aint no oldie-- GJ
Cesar Chavez was a dick and an asshole....
All you fuckers raise your fist in the air and yell out his name and protest for the UFW, not knowing what a fucking asshole Cesar Chavez really was. The Los Angeles Times recently wrote a series of acticles giving a glance to what really went down with the movement. My relatives from up north fought, starved, and gave their poverished lifes for the cause. They be the first to tell you how much hate they have toward that sob motherfucker. Growing up in their homes, no one was allowed to utter his name in their presence. Your ass get a lecture in real chicano history....
I'm not going to go into details....but you dumb asses should really talk to people that were there and experienced the shit before talking about how great that guy was or wearing those UFW shirts........
My relatives will be the first to tell you that chavez and the Huelga can go fuck themselves......just made them see how controlling and powerhungry one person can become....thinking he was Jesus Christ....
whats up everybody.any ab in here,im just here to take over and shut down this mexican circus.where are my brothers at.it will only be a couple of days in this shit is ours like every thing else we want we take.pince paisas.
WELL TAKE THIS MEXICAN COCK IN YOUR MOUTH .... PECKERWOOD !!!!!!
To AB Organizer:
Everyones at your smoking Meth head Mother's house....waiting their turn to give you a new step-brother. The fucking line goes outside your three flat tire trailer park home. All the way down to the end of the San Berno Riverbed......
Tell your low motel budget tatted up Aunts to stop fucking those big black retired BGF cadillac driving monkeys.....
i only do that when im locked up.i am also called vaccum cause of my skills with the pipe.so give me your name and address and ill be there to service youuuuuuuuuuuuuu
FUCKIN REDNECK INCEST PRODUCT .... DON'T YOU HAVE SOME UNCLE TO PLEASURE ......
Here is my address:
11000 Wilshire Blvd., 17th Floor
Los Angeles, Ca 90024
Ask for the Big Dog!
Anonymous said:....but you dumb asses should really talk to people that were there and experienced the shit before talking about how great that guy was or wearing those UFW shirts.......
I WAS there! Of course being gavacho I stood on the other side of the picket line.. My family and I watched crops wilt and rot in the field because the "unione" said not to pick. We recruited winos and survived that non-profit drama.Then we talked the old school Italians retired and comfy, to come out and lend a hand, perform the work they began with. To their credit they busted their humps, but they were OLD.....WE got hurt bigtime, missed our brazeros..
Really I have no frame of reference when you say Cesar Chavez was "unwelcome" in your latino home I have to shrug..
From my point of view he ran the show.. Our crops did'nt harvest without the UFW say so..LOL East coaster has plenty of cheese sauce w/no brussels sprouts to put it on..Of course I did hear some smut from the higher-ups that the man Cesar might have swung a quiet deal with the wine grape growers that kinda greased right by us food producers..But that too, is the American Way..So now I spose I gotsta take down cesar's pic in the hall.That'll leave Teddy Roosevelt all by hisself.
IN REGARDS TO THE GAVACHOS COMMENT ... WHAT ARE YOU WHITE OR BLACK ? YOU ENDED YOUR MESSAGE SOUNDING LIKE A ALABAMA MONKEY ....
That was Kansas Gavacho drawl. Sorry if it sounds nigger, or not..GJ
bitch i wish i could see your bitch ass.try and talk about the dirty south knowin your ass would get touched if you came down here.i know that the whole south is united and cant be touched unlike l.a. which is divided amongst itself.fuck you i kill people like you.your the only fuckin monkey im a gorilla.you just cant fuck with it
Dirty South Gorilla needs him a shot o Thorazine and thumb to suck on..
Stop behaving like a demented monkey - sambo. Go sit on a citrus juicer and suck dust motes.
Mr. gorlla,
I am going to pull your lower lip over your head like a cabbage leaf.
The burning question is...
Is there a Mrs. Gorilla? And if so who does her hair? (a cuisinart?) I don't know!? I'm just ask'in?
ONE QUESTION DIRTY SOUTH MONKEY / NIGGER / GORILLA / NAPPY HEAD / BOO BOO...
WHAT ARE YOU DOING IN THIS BLOG THEN .. WE DISCUSS L.A. MATTERS HERE .... OHH I KNOW, TRYING TO PICK UP SOME STYLE AND TRENDS FROM THE TREND SETTERS HUH !!!!
BEEN TO MANY STATES IN THE DIRTY " JUNGLE BUNNY " SOUTH, NOTHING ON THE BIG LOS !!! ONE NIGHT I WAS AT A CLUB TURNING DOWN SO MANY BLACK BITCHES PUSSY , SO MUCH FOR THE MYTH !!!
first of all a whore house doesnt count as a club and dirty south niggas dont dress nothin like you fuckin jotos,we got our own style and we proud of everything we do and take pride in how we do it.and like i said yall cant fuck with the dirty.i was just passing through when some bitch ass mafucker started talkin about the dirty so im definetly going to jump in.unlike mexicans that fight themselves the dirty will fight against any hater with each other.call it what the fuck you want and keep on with the racist shit but you know we some real ass bottom boys that would hurt cha-ya heard me.real talk.only that gorilla shit
NO , I WASN'T AT YOUR MAMMI'S HOUSE....
A CLUB PORCH MONKEY !!! YOU KNOW THAT PLACE YOU COULD ONLY GO TO WHEN YOUR MAMMI GETS HERE WELFARE CHECK !!!!
SO NEXT TIME YOUR SELLING YOUR FOOD STAMPS , PUT SOME A SIDE TO GET INTO THE CLUB !!!! YOUR CHROME SPINNER HUB-CAPS AND FAKE GOLD TEETH CAN WAIT !!!!
YOUR NAME WOULDN'T HAPPEN TO BE MASTER P .... ?
Nope Mr . Gorilla.
You are angry and thats not a true parallel!
That was a cheap retort!
Shame on you Mr . Gorilla.
Is there a Mrs. Gorilla?
We want to know!!
Mr Gorilla,
I drove by your house.
Is it Elizabethian or early Tudor?
i was at grand ave. club in downtown l.a. and i think i saw you with the fattest chica there,tryin to spit your weak ass game and she wouldnt take your weak as water ass home.if you think you can get down with me then bring all that mess to 15500 hartford dr.biloxi,ms 39530.thats south cedar grove if you aint know.so there you have it nigga its on the table so come get it nigga,ohhh weeee come get it.
YOU GOT IT BOO BOO ....
NEXT TIME I'M VISITING YOUR NEIGHBOR FOREST GUMP , I'LL CHECK YOUR WEAK BLACK ASS " BOTTOM BOYS " WHAT EVER THE FUCK THAT MEANS OUT !!!
THATS ENOUGH SPOOK, DON'T YOU GOT SOME BEAN PIE OR GRITS TO EAT....
A trifle better Mr. Gorilla.
But no banana.
Mr. Gorilla, that sounds like a looking over your shoulders comment. Don't punk out on me!
Mr. Gorilla,
Don't make me open the WUP ASS CAN.
Mr Gorilla,
Remember what I said?
About pulling your lower lipover your head like a cabbage leaf?!!
Mr. Gorilla,
That wasn't an idle threat!
Mr. Gorilla are you there?
I don't like taking to myself.
Are you there Mr Gorilla?
Maybe he's in the bathroom?
blah blah blah,thats alll you phonies is saying put it up there let me see the address cause i come to l.a. all the time and we can save the suspense and let me come to you ya heard me,and ill show you what the tru meaning of bottom boy is.i put my shit out there and i definetly aint scared of the beef stew cause i stay dealing with that so be a man and put that shit out there homeboi so we can see whats really going on,nigga please let me know cause im ready,762 for that ass boi.and all you other niggas with them stupid comments put your shit on the screen to so we caN all feel like men.its easy to talk when you cant see the nigga,real talk from mr gorilla.i earned my stripes from the streets to harrison county jail.
Mr. Gorilla,
did you go to the bathroom to get beautiful for me?
Mr. Gorilla,
I'm not gay,
but tell me something, are your feeling something for me, I can take the compliment but thats it!!
CHECK IT OUT BOO BOO...
187 KLU KLUX KLAN BLVD.
LOS ANGELES , CA
JUST PLAYING JIGGS .....
YOU MAY BE WELCOMED IN COMPTON , WATTS , INGLEWOOD ETC....
BUT TRUST ME YOU WOULDN'T EVEN BE ABLE TO ENTER MY BLOCK WITHOUT CATCHING A BULLET , CAUSE ALL SPOOKS ARE NOT WELCOME ON OUR BLOCK , COME CHECK OUT THE NORWALK AREA , WE FUMIGATE FOR ROACHES ON A REGULAR BASIS !!!
Mr. Gorilla,
May I suggest we cut to the heart of the matter.
Are you being naive or are you assuming I am? HUH!
All you talk is tired cliche's.
norwalk huh.well i stayed in norwalk on imperial hwy. next to a hotdog stand weinersnichel and aint nobody tested my nuts,i even was cool with this old ass cholo,the nigga helped me fix my stereo.but i got you nigga,your card just got pulled and we know you a pussy,i can even smell it on my pc.i still dont see that address bitch ass.cause you know once i get it im going to fumigate for a stinking cockaroach.pussy nigga,i bet i can take your hoes if you got any,your life and whatever manhood you thought you had.real talk from the nigga in a ski maskwith the white gold teeth shining
Mr. Gorilla,
I heard that the chicks from Biloxi are all strictly from the U.S. Kennal Club. Is, is that true?
anonymous stop all that intelectual bullshit cause aint nobody trying to here that bullshit.i might not be able to do triganometry but i can kill you real quik so whats up with that address
THE ONE WAYS ... FUCKING SPOOK...
NAVA ST. COME CHECK ME OUT !!!!
Mr Gorilla,
I'm still hear but I sense your afraid to answer me. Am I too smart for you Mr. Gorilla?
Mr. Gorilla,
We're gonna be in the papers tomorrow maybe, but we have to have a dialogue. I just can be doing all the talking.
alright were almost there homeboi now lets get some numbers and i dont want no mafuckers house number that you drove by and seen the nigga outside thinking he was real,i want your house numbers,like the other nigga said bout to make the papers the obituaries,be happy nigga you gonna be famous,face all over the news.and if theres no dialoge why u still trying to get at me nigga,i aint your girlfreind is you gay.
i know what your gonna do,post some more racist sayings you seen on the kkk sight and beat around the bush ,pussy
Mr. Gorilla,
You stood up and answered like a man.
Are you tired?
Mr. Gorilla,
Are you tired from typing yet??
Mr. Gorilla,
I'm getting a little tired from typing. I'm going to go make a sandwich.
Mr. Gorilla,
Did you hear what I said!!
yeah thats what i thought.that nigga is as quite as a fucking mouse.hiding behind that computer.fuck this im taking my nigger ass to popeyes,did i say that right anonymous
O.K. Mr. Gorilla,
I was starting to like you, but I take it real personal when I address someone and that someone doesn't answer back. I'm going to make me that sandwich but I would pray we never meet Mr. Gorilla because I have some big strong hands and I don't like cabbage leafs.
JIM
Mr. Gorilla,
I forgot to say God Bless.
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