VALLEY STABBING SIGNALS WAR
You don't usually hear much going on in the SF Valley. But something's about to kick off. Last week a carload of alleged CPA homies rolled up on four alleged Haskell Streeters in broad daylight in the 20000 block of Sherman Way. Fists flew, a knife came out and one Haskell paid the ultimate price for living the life. The usually wrong media attributed the incident to rival tagging crews. Haskell apparently is moving West, and CPA is claiming more streets to the East. Result? You figure it out. Somebody ought to clamp a lid on this before it gets crazy.
Friday, April 28, 2006
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«Oldest ‹Older 1201 – 1400 of 1462 Newer› Newest»"Some cause happiness wherever they go; others whenever they go."
-Oscar Wilde
Goodbye S, aka Mr. lonely.
By the way Mr. Wilde was gay like you S but he made a contribution to literature with his incredibly keen wit, where as you must be an experiment in Artificial Stupidity.
Just out of curiosity, are your parents siblings?
Much better Varrio Gang forums at this site...
http://www.igotzbanana^mi@ss&k@nt getitout/
s is back!fuck you busters!
Ah the return of the retrobate
Check it out - the squirrel's back.. But he's been back before. Whatever name he uses-- it's all lame..
The snortes and mayates work in tandem like an Abbott and Costello or a Beavis and Buthead, who's the bigger buffoon is in the eye of the beholder.
s said...
s is back!fuck me you busters!!!!
fool your mama lame. WELL PEOPLE ALL I SEE ON THIS SITE IS STUPID PEOPLE TRY TALK SHIT ABOUT ME! DAMN PEOPLE WHY YOU PUTING LAME SHIT ON THIS SITE? BUSTERS START TO ACT UP!FUCK THIS SHIT IS CRAZY!REMEMBER THIS SHIT RIGHT HERE IS MY YARDA! SO ALL YOU 25 IS GOING TO GET DELT WITH!
Mr. S
i WANT TO BE YOUR STEP-DADDY FUCKER.....I WANT TO FINGER FUCK AND ASS POKE YOUR MOTHER WITH MY BIG BROWN DICK.....
KICK DOWN YOUR ADDY HOMIE....I DONT NEED YOUR MOTHER'S NAME, IT AINT GOING TO MATTER FOR WHAT I'M GOING TO DO TO HER....
LET THE HOMIE HAVE SOME OF YOUR MOTHER'S TITTY LECHE....DONT BE TIGHT WITH YOUR MOTHER'S PUSSY HOLE......EVEN IF ITS HAIRY, i'LL CONVINCE HER TO SHAVE THAT LITTLE MONKEY THEN I'LL SLAM IT AND BANG IT! QUE DICES GUEY...
SOY EL MR. HORNY Y QUE/SAPOS PUTO
C/S PUTO!
ANONYMOUS GET OFF MY NUTS !
S said... %#*&@!?":<>??
Hey you little runt, if I want any lip from you I'll pull down my zipper.prjdrkc
S (sugar)
YOU DUMB SHIT. YOUR A WANNABE AND A PENDEJO.
CONTROL YOUR EMOTIONS PENDENJO.
BIG BAD CRAZY ASS VARRIO FLORENCIA TRECE IN THIS BITCH!!!!!FUCK YOU S
ESE STOMPER HERE TO CHECK YOU PUTO.
S said...
ANONYMOUS LET ME LICK OFF YOUR NUTS PLEASE!
S said...
ANONYMOUS LET ME LICK OFF YOUR NUTS PLEASE!
S....
I'M NOT ON YOUR NUTS...
LET THIS FAT HORNY CHICANO GET SOME TIGHT PUSSY FROM YOUR MOMS....ESE..
YOU KNOW HOW THE GAME IS PLAYED....LITTLE PENDEJO..
i FUCK YOUR MOM ONLY AT NIGHT, CUZ THAT'S WHEN I GET DRUNK AT THE CORNER BAR ON LONG BEACH BLVD....AND GET THE URGE TO GO OVER YOUR LITTLE CASITA TO KNOCK ON YOUR MOM'S WINDOW, CLIMB IN, GET MY BANGING ON....AND LEAVE BEFORE SUN RAISE....
i PROMISE FOO, i'LL LEAVE AN EXTRA $20.00 FOR YOUR CANDIES AND ICE CREAM BIG STICK..OR FEET SMELLING TORITOS, CHICO STICKS...WHATEVER YOU WANT LITTLE BALD HEAD WEENIE LICKER....JUST DO ME THE FAVOR AND LEAVE THE FRONT DOOR OPEN.
MY ASS IS TIRED OF PUTTING THAT TRASH CAN UP AGAINST YOUR MOM'S WINDOW AND JUMPING IN.....
THE CENTURY SHERIFF DONT LIKE THAT SHIT, THEY GAVE ME ASS A WARNING ALREADY. I'LL KICK DOWN AN EXTRA VIENTE, IF YOU LET ME JUMP OVER TO YOUR SISTER ROOM AND STICK MY CHILITO IN HER CULO TOO ....Q DICES ESE......
THIS HORNY GAROTE MAN NEEDS YOUR RUKA MOMS PANOCHA MR. S (AKA SUCIO).....
NO SEAS PUTITO ESE....QUIERO MAMALE LA PANOCHA A TU MADRE Y HERMANAS.....
I GET YOU AND YOUR LITTLE CANALITOS OFF WELFARE BY THE END OF THIS YEAR, TE PROMETO LOKO!
tHE VATO FROM FAGGETES WANTS TO GET DOWN WITH YOU AND WRESTLE OVER A LONG BEACH BLVD TRANSVESTE WALKING DICK....THE WINNER OUT OF BOTH OF YOU, GETS A FREE NIGHT WITH A LONG BEACH BLVD WALKING TRANSEXUAL WITH A LONG ASS GAROTE.....AT THE LOCAL SANTA FE AVE MOTEL.....
S said...
I admit I am a joto but they kicked me out of the mafia times and I just need attention. My ex-old man used to beat the crap out of me to hard so I left him. I am loved starved and I am looking for male company. I want a big cbrone if you know what I mean (wink, wink).
the lapd blog sucks! they are never going to find shit out with the shit that's being posted. They need to stop editing all the blogs. then they cry that they cant find any leads, idiots. Just a bunch of dumb, no dont shit people are posting comments.
S said,
On my resume I put that I used to stroll the Greyhound bus terminal on 5th looking for men who would be anxious to taste my sugar a la Mr. Ben Dover, but I was put on disability for flbby ass syndrome.
I thought the grayhond bus terminal was on 7th, pinche idiota
Resume part II
S said,
After a while after too much cock sucking my teeth started to get black and rot out, and my gums were bleeding and starting to pus and my breath was so bad that nobody wanted my services. Then I stopped charging all together and was doing it just for the shear enjoyment.
CAN ANYBODY TELL ME WHAT HAPPEN TO VARRIO LOCO'S MONTEBELLO(VLS'M)IT WAS A VARRIO BACK IN THE 70'S AND 80'S AND IF SOUTH SIDE MONTEBELLO (SSM)STILL ACTIVE
I thought the grayhond bus terminal was on 7th, pinche idiota...
You know the landmarks well?
of course bitch...its my job to know all LA COUNTY ...
VNE13 almost runs all south side Montebello...
if you leave out the tag-bagging crews
the LOTT "Living on The TOP" has part of the west side of the city...
the rest are just old vets that dont bang....but their kids end up taggers or tag bangers.....
there is a crew named "FUK" and back in the days, police would detained them and fuck them up....
they be asked what they bang..or what crew they are from...they say, "FUC" and toma guey ...un garote a la cabeza...
:)
James Omos went to MOntebello ....
someone who grew up on the streets......knows where the greyhound is at...and where is used to be before it was re-located
CAN ANYBODY TELL ME WHAT HAPPEN TO VARRIO LOCO'S MONTEBELLO(VLS'M)IT WAS A VARRIO BACK IN THE 70'S AND 80'S AND IF SOUTH SIDE MONTEBELLO (SSM)STILL ACTIVE
of course bitch...its my job to know all LA COUNTY ...
Hey bitch where does bitch S live, so we can take a mananitas group tomorrow al amadrugar?
CAN ANYBODY TELL ME WHAT HAPPEN TO VARRIO LOCO'S MONTEBELLO(VLS'M)IT WAS A VARRIO BACK IN THE 70'S AND 80'S AND IF SOUTH SIDE MONTEBELLO (SSM)STILL ACTIVE
CAN ANYBODY TELL ME WHAT HAPPEN TO VARRIO LOCO'S MONTEBELLO(VLS'M)IT WAS A VARRIO BACK IN THE 70'S AND 80'S AND IF SOUTH SIDE MONTEBELLO (SSM)STILL ACTIVE
S
Since your back maybe you can answer my question.
What happened at L.A. High?
Did you ever have the balls to show up?
Mr.:) called you out.
The Sur needs us just like the Norte needs the niggers it's all about protection.
Danm this site has gone to shit!!!!!!!!
A bunch of verga heads going to and fro on one another with not one piont of validation or eddifacatiio for the rest.Wally you sadist end the pian and put this shit to rest.
Wood... who in the fuck are you protecting? You can't even protect your own.
"So is it any wonder that when a white man comes to prison, that blacks see him as a target. Stereotypes are prevalent amongst blacks also that cause bad thinking. The belief that all or most white men are effete or gay is very prevalent, & that whites are cowards who have to have 5 or 6 more to take down one dude . . . . Whites are prey and even a punk will be supported if he beats up a white dude."
http://www.hrw.org/reports/2001/prison/report4.html#_1_27
STOMPER CALM YOUR HAPPY AS DOWN!YEAH FOOL YOU SO CRAZY! STUPID FOOL! SO WHATS UP WITH YOU BUNCH OF FUNY BUNYS! AND WHATS UP WITH THIS HOMO JOKES!YOU FOOLS ARE STRAIGHT FAGS! WELL WHATS UP WITH WALY? AND ALL THE PEOPLE WHO WROTE SOMETHING UP IN HERE ARE ALL GONE! SO YOU FAGS NEED TO SHAKE THE SPOT! AND STOP WRITING NONSENSE UP IN HERE ! ALL RIGHT THEN! C/M/R S
YEAH I WENT TO LA HIGH BUT KNOBODY SHOW UP! FUCK THAT NIGER!
Anonymous said...
Danm this site has gone to shit!!!!!!!!
A bunch of verga heads going to and fro on one another with not one piont of validation or eddifacatiio for the rest.Wally you sadist end the pian and put this shit to rest.
1. piont ?
2. eddifacatiio ?
3. pian ?
Please get a spell checker.
S said...
YEAH I WENT TO LA HIGH BUT STAYED BEHIND THE BUSHES GETTING FUCKED BY TWO NIGERS!
Mr. S
i WANT TO BE YOUR STEP-DADDY FUCKER.....I WANT TO FINGER FUCK AND ASS POKE YOUR MOTHER WITH MY BIG BROWN DICK.....
KICK DOWN YOUR ADDY HOMIE....I DONT NEED YOUR MOTHER'S NAME, IT AINT GOING TO MATTER FOR WHAT I'M GOING TO DO TO HER....
LET THE HOMIE HAVE SOME OF YOUR MOTHER'S TITTY LECHE....DONT BE TIGHT WITH YOUR MOTHER'S PUSSY HOLE......EVEN IF ITS HAIRY, i'LL CONVINCE HER TO SHAVE THAT LITTLE MONKEY THEN I'LL SLAM IT AND BANG IT! QUE DICES GUEY...
SOY EL MR. HORNY Y QUE/SAPOS PUTO
STOMPER I WOULD BE HAPPY TO SHARE YOUR BUNK. CALM DOWN HONEY I AM COMING! THIS HOMO WOULD NOT MISS IT FOR THE WORLD (WINK, WINK).
C/M/R S
C - CHUPO
M - MUCHO
R - RAPIDO
S - SILENCIOSO
THIS HORNY GAROTE MAN NEEDS YOUR RUKA MOMS PANOCHA MR. S (AKA SUCIO).....
NO SEAS PUTITO ESE....QUIERO MAMALE LA PANOCHA A TU MADRE Y HERMANAS.....
I GET YOU AND YOUR LITTLE CANALITOS OFF WELFARE BY THE END OF THIS YEAR, TE PROMETO LOKO!
THE VATO FROM FAGGETES WANTS TO GET DOWN WITH YOU AND WRESTLE OVER A LONG BEACH BLVD TRANSVESTE WALKING DICK....THE WINNER OUT OF BOTH OF YOU, GETS A FREE NIGHT WITH A LONG BEACH BLVD WALKING TRANSEXUAL WITH A LONG ASS GAROTE.....AT THE LOCAL SANTA FE AVE MOTEL.....
S said...
STOMPER I WOULD BE HAPPY TO SHARE YOUR BUNK. CALM DOWN HONEY I AM COMING! THIS HOMO WOULD NOT MISS IT FOR THE WORLD (WINK, WINK).
C/M/R S
C - CHUPO
M - MUCHO
R - RAPIDO
S - SILENCIOSO
S said...
YEAH I WENT TO LA HIGH BUT STAYED BEHIND THE BUSHES GETTING FUCKED BY TWO NIGERS!
S said...
I AM BLACK. SURPRISE. I AM OUT OF THE CLOSET!
Yeah OK all Whites are gay.That's why we like being locked up with you Southern Boys , cause you give up the ass so easy.
Mother fucker we are the majority.If we left you wet backs to sink or swim you would surely sink.
Oh little sapling. There is much for you to learn. In what corner of imagination are you the majority? Alaska? North Dakota? Certainly not California.
Remember, Odin and Thor do not approve of giving or taking ass, much less ass outside of your race. And if you know the history of your own then you should know that neither did Hitler. Does Ernest Rohm and the Night of Long Knives jog your memory?
Being an open faggot will only get you greenlighted. The woods should do a better job of protecting their own from the mayates.
redwood said...
OK WE GET IT.
ANOTHER BLACK POSSING AS A WHITE THINKING HE IS BEING CLEVER USING THE NAME REDWOOD.
WHY NOT DAGWOOD, PINCHE MAYATE.
REDWOOD:
A modest little person, with much to be modest about.
STUPID GAVA I CAN TELL.YOU A STRAIGHT PICE OF SHIT ! YOU FOOLS ARE NOTHING! GAVAS DONT RUN SHIT IN PINTAS!MAYBE IN PC YARDS! BUT MAINLINE NO I DONT THINK SO! NAME ONE YARD WHERE GAVAS GOT ANY SAY SO!AND YOU FOOLS KNOW WHO RUNS ALL MAIN LINE YARDS! SO YOU STUPID PC SHUT THE FUCK UP!
STUPID GAVA I CAN TELL.YOU A STRAIGHT PICE OF SHIT ! YOU FOOLS ARE NOTHING! GAVAS DONT RUN SHIT IN PINTAS!MAYBE IN PC YARDS! BUT MAINLINE NO I DONT THINK SO! NAME ONE YARD WHERE GAVAS GOT ANY SAY SO!AND YOU FOOLS KNOW WHO RUNS ALL MAIN LINE YARDS! SO YOU STUPID PC SHUT THE FUCK UP!
I admit the Messycans are the majority in the California prison system but you can't walk the yard in any other states with out WOOD protection.
So, featherwood, we have gone from "we are the majority" to admitting that Mexicans are the majority in California. Now, let us try Arizona and Nevada.
How much time have you done in those states yourself no name?
I'll tell you what , I'll give you Nevada too but Arizona? Your trippin you have to copete with the WOODS and Redskins in Az.
I meant compete
BRAKE THAT SHIT DOWN GAVA!YOU SOUND STUPID! I BET YOU GOT LIGHTING BOLTS ON YOUR ASS! TELL ME THE TRUE ARE YOU PC ? BECAUSE YOU SOUND LIKE ONE!I BET WOODS ARE DEEP IN CANADA! YOU A STUPID ASS WHITE TRASH PUNK! SO SHUT UP! AND STOP THIS WOOFING ! YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU TALKING ABOUT! SUR RUNS ARIZONA STUPID!
How much time have you done in Arizona?
GO PC UP DIRTY GAVA!
That's what I thought you little bitch.You just talk alot of shit but you don't have any facts.
FOOL YOU THE ONE WHO CHANGE THE SCRIPT! STUPID!
S said...
FOOL YOU THE ONE WHO CANGED THE SCRIPT! STUPID!
SUR RUNS ARIZONA STUPID!
STUPID GAVA I CAN TELL
NUT SACK KILLA ,NIGGA KILLA,SNORTE KILLA,CK BK PK HK KILLA
Your fuckin kidding me right?
Is this how you really talk?
THIS IS MY YARDA
Cmon homeboy .This is the fucking Internet not your yarda.
I'm gonna call you Special Ed.Cause you sound like a fucking retard and I think that's what the S is for Special fucking Ed!
The stories you are about to read today are true; the names have been changed to protect the innocent. This is the city... Los Angeles, California on this Saturday, 10th day of June.
The good old days, when a nickel could buy something of value at the corner drug store and the soda jerk was an important guy.
There was a time when every town had an old-fashioned ice cream parlor with wispy metal chairs around glass-topped tables and shadowy booths where studs took their girls. Ceiling fans whirred overhead and as you entered you were met by sloping glass cases filled with candies and chocolates.
Then there was the soda fountain with its marble top in front of a massive mirror, shiny spouts and gleaming metal work area where a prince in white jacket presided. No mere soda-jerk was he -- that defaming term had not yet been coined. He was, rather, a fellow of infinite skill, able to produce a milkshake with a few deft moves with large containers and a mixing machine. His sorcery done, he poured with a flourish, usually at arm's length from a great height. Then he set the frosty treasure before his customer as one might proffer a cup of ambrosia to a king. Lou Lipshitz remembers working as a soda jerk: "When the girls from Holy Family, A Catholic school across the street, piled in, things got pretty frantic for a while. The girls all dressed alike but they didn't all look alike. Some of them got extra syrup in their cherry Cokes. And if the owner wasn't looking, some extra ice cream went into certain milkshakes. Being a soda jerk was a wonderful work experience.
Ok Lets all wax nostalgic for the "good old days".. Along with those cherry phosphates and black cows, banana splits and egg creams tuberculosis was running rampant and the only car coming out of Detroit with seat belts was Ford's Highway Patrol Interceptor..LA's weekly murder rate ran in single digits and a sitdown steak dinner in a swank nightspot was $2.50, less drinks of course which could run up to a buck apiece from the blender.. DDT was just beginning to take a strong run at wiping out the bald eagle, the black-footed ferret, and the sea otter.. Thalidomide was still on some scientist's drawing board. Yes the same drug that Mr. S's Mom took while she was carrying him. The very same drug that caused him to be born with his gaping mouth, and a tendency to mutter "yarda" obsessively. I'll bet, just from a quick scan of his writings the fellow has a serious tic, maybe a tendency to drool some. Not enough to make him a total outcast, but should seriously affect the level of women that find any attraction.
Overall prognosis is to continue with the meds and EST may be required in the future..
Yawn. Featherwood. You are like a one trick pony. Your trick is to make an outlandish claim in one post and then to agree how wrong you were in the next post. You have two strikes. A third one and your trifecta for the exhibition of inferior intellect will be complete.
You are (by your own admission) wrong about California and wrong about Nevada. You are also wrong about Arizona. Who, pray tell, do the Mexicans needs protection from in Arizona? The mayate/tinto factor is near zero in Arizona. We should also throw in Texas and New Mexico.
What does the mayate/tinto factor in the Tri-States have to do with the smog in LA?
Everything.
The Mayates in the tri-states generate all the smog with their filthy living habits that settles into Los Angeles. This smog then gets in the eyes of featherwood, causing blindness and dementia. This in turn leads to outlandish posts from the same with incorrect information.
Maybe its time to start a new fund - the Save the Featherwood Fund. Perhaps we can take donations to help Featherwood and his people ride in the pinta by paying the Surrenos to protect them from getting turned out by the Mayates.
this blog has turned into a piece of shit, no tj,wally et al and a bunch of net bangers that are real net gangsters GBG the gay boy gangsters
Pretty Pete & S dance this one wearing their purple Barney underwear before turning the lights off and bunking together to the sounds of Gomer Pyle sings the classics.
The farmer in the dell
The farmer in the dell
Hi-ho,The derry-o
The farmer in the dell
The farmer takes a wife
The farmer takes a wife
Hi-ho,The derry-o
The farmer takes a wife
The wife takes a child
The wife takes a child
Hi-ho,The derry-o
The wife takes a child
The child takes a nurse
The child takes a nurse
Hi-ho,The derry-o
The child takes a nurse
The nurse takes a cow
The nurse takes a cow
Hi-ho,The derry-o
The nurse takes a cow
The cow takes a dog
The cow takes a dog
Hi-ho,The derry-o
The cow takes a dog
The dog takes a cat
The dog takes a cat
Hi-ho,The derry-o
The dog takes a cat
The cat takes a rat
The cat takes a rat
Hi-ho,The derry-o
The cat takes a rat
The rat takes the cheese
The rat takes the cheese
Hi-ho,The derry-o
The rat takes the cheese
The cheese stands alone
The cheese stands alone
Hi-ho,The derry-o
The cheese stands alone
That "derry-o" shit pretty much cinches the fact that this place has gone bonkers. The fact that anybody would waste the time to type that toddler crap out is pitiful..It's like the foolio who bothered to do up that "hokey pokey" shit.. Get lives! Since simple thinkers like this are rare, I'm prone to thnk it's the same vato making some point known only to him/her..At any rate the content here does'nt warrant the hassle of beating down both doors to read it.. The original Wally has abandoned you because you have no quality. Nothing says boring like what is written here.. Your constant banter over Sur/Norteno rights and wrongs appears so damned elimentary to the rest of the world. You're fucking embarassing! Do you think anyone but the simple minded few of you give a piss about what goes down in your "barrios"? There's bigger fish frying on the planet. Sweet justice would decree that your entire cholo/gang culture sinks into the Earth like so much spilt menudo.. Your style is outdated, your strange mannerisms have been "universalized". Wanna-bes in China are giving gang signs.. But that fact does'nt put you in the forefront; it makes you a cliche pure and very SIMPLE.. Another fad that will succumb to natural degradation. Adios Cholitos.
And now a word from Pocket Fisherman by Ronco
What does the mayate/tinto factor in the Tri-States have to do with the smog in LA?
Everything.
The Mayates in the tri-states generate all the smog with their filthy living habits that settles into Los Angeles. This smog then gets in the eyes of featherwood, causing blindness and dementia. This in turn leads to outlandish posts from the same with incorrect information.
Maybe its time to start a new fund - the Save the Featherwood Fund. Perhaps we can take donations to help Featherwood and his people ride in the pinta by paying the Surrenos to protect them from getting turned out by the Mayates.
CAN ANYBODY TELL ME WHAT HAPPEN TO VARRIO LOCO'S MONTEBELLO(VLS'M)IT WAS A VARRIO BACK IN THE 70'S AND 80'S AND IF SOUTH SIDE MONTEBELLO (SSM)STILL ACTIVE
That "derry-o" shit pretty much cinches the fact that this place has gone bonkers. The fact that I would waste the time to reply to this toddler crap is pitiful. The original Wally has abandoned you because you have no quality. Nothing says boring like what is written here. Sweet justice would decree that your entire cholo/gang culture stinks the Earth like so much menudo.. Your style is outdated, your strange mannerisms have been "universalized". Wanna-bes in China are giving gang signs.. But that fact does'nt put you in the forefront; it makes you a cliche pure and very SIMPLE.. Another fad that will succumb to natural degradation. Adios Cholitos. I am proud & glad I am from Nicargua!!!!
SUR 13 runs pintas ! FUCK ALL OF YOU WHO IS NOT DOWN WITH US!
s said...
SUR 13 runs pintas ! FUCK ALL OF YOU WHO IS NOT DOWN WITH US!
Nicaragua rules big boy. Sorry to give you the bad news sweetheart.
fool go back to nigerraqua !fool you nothing but other ! lame!
SUR 13 ! fuck busters!
Nicaraguans are like little mayates. The look the same but without the tall stature... Sorry, but it's a fact...
They got Popeyes in downtown Managua? I mean those Third World peasants can grow watermelon, right?
And they can still be monkeys, even without the porch, right?
And the fact they're closer to the ground means they can drag their knuckles easier, right?
And they can name their kids Tyrone and Kalishaka-Khan, right..
And they can use Magic Shave and stink up the whole Equator, right?
nigerraqua! damn other everything i say up in this site is true look at other people they on you to ! well other ! you just became pc ! you on the leva list! today is time to drink some white lighting ! and have fun so iam gone !get my new blues on !put my new nikes! get my super 3! and go to party! yeah people ! SUR x3 RUNS THE SHOW !!!
Anonymous said...
And now a word from Pocket Fisherman by Ronco.
I bought one of those. Here's the the rap sheet on this guy...
Ron "Ronco" Popeil is one of America's unique inventors. Over the past 40 years, his products have pulled in more than $2 billion in sales. Ron was voted by Self Magazine readers as one of the 25 people who have changed the way we eat, drink and think about food. And, he's still going strong. One of his latest inventions, the Showtime Rotisserie & BBQ, is selling by the thousands every week. It wasn't always this way, however. Like many a self-made man, Ron Popeil didn't have a normal childhood, at least not the kind of childhood enjoyed by a lot of us. In fact, he says, he has blotted most of it from his memory.
Born in 1935, Ron and his 17-month older brother, Jerry, were shuffled off to a foster home in upstate New York between the ages of three and four when his parents were divorced. Ron remembers Christmas time when other parents arrived at the foster home to pick up their children for the holidays. Ron would stand in the middle of the street and look down what seemed to be an endless road waiting to see his mother or father's car approach. It never did.
Before he was seven, his grandparents rescued Ron and his brother from the foster home and took them to their aunt's home in Florida for about 2½ years. But it was a case of "out of the frying pan and into the fire." His grandfather, a Polish immigrant, was dour and sour without any redeeming human qualities. At the age of 10, Ron's grandparents moved to Chicago and he and his brother moved with them. Six years later, Ron would move and go on his own.
Ron's father, Samuel Popeil, was an inventor who sold his inventions thru major department stores and chain stores throughout the U.S. including Sears, Walgreen's, and Woolworth's. Ron's role was to help his father in that endeavor by demonstrating the products in those kinds of stores. His purpose was to persuade the store owners, managers, and buyers that customers would purchase these unique inventions in large quantities. "I used to drum up business for my father's company by showing how easy it was to sell his products," Ron says. "Because sales were significant, the stores would jump on the bandwagon and order more product from his father."
The turning point in Ron's life came when he took a walk down Chicago's Maxwell Street one day. As he recalls in his autobiography, The Salesman of the Century, " Maxwell Street was a Chicago's tourist attraction as well as a place to sell all sorts of goods. The first time I went there, the proverbial light bulb went on in my head. I saw all these people selling products, making sales, pocketing money, and my mind went racing. I can do what they're doing, I thought, but I think I can do it better than they can.
"So, I gathered up some kitchen products from my father's factory, he sold them to me at a wholesale price so he made a full profit, and I went down to Maxwell Street on a Sunday to give it a try. I talked, I yelled, I hawked, and it worked! I was stuffing money into my pockets, more money than I had ever seen in my life. I didn't have to be poor for the rest of my life. Through selling, I could escape from poverty and the miserable existence I had with my grandparents. I had lived for 16 years in homes without love, and now I finally found a form of affection and human connection through sales.
Note that Ron's father didn't give his son a price break on his purchases. Samuel J. Popeil was a hard working man who expected everyone around him to work just as hard and to take the same financial risks he was taking. This was okay with Ron. He didn't expect any special treatment and he didn't need any, for he found he was a natural born salesman.
When he wasn't selling on Maxwell Street, he was demonstrating and selling his father's products (and some made by other manufacturers) just inside the front door of Woolworth's flagship store in Chicago. Among his wares were food choppers, shoeshine spray and plastic plant kits. Ron's deal with the manager of that store was simple. In return for demonstration space, the store received 20% of all the money he took in. This was another gold mine for Ron. At Woolworth's alone he was making $1,000 a week at a time when the average salary was $500 a month.
During the summer months, Ron was able to get out of Woolworth's and Maxwell Street and work the State Fair circuit. As well as being another lucrative sales venue, it also, perhaps more importantly, taught him salesmanship lessons that he would later put to use in his TV commercials. By demonstrating his products in front of masses of real live people who asked silly questions and broached objections, he was able to learn what the silly questions and objections were and build the answers and counter-arguments into his presentation. For example, he says, "before I went on TV with the Chop-O-Matic [precursor to the famous Veg-O-Matic], I spent several weeks selling the product at Woolworth's. After several days of demonstrating the product, I learned what features consumers were particularly interested in."
By now, Popeil was raking in lots of money. But, he got to wonder how long it could last. His entire income was dependent on him selling day after day. What if something happened to prevent him from pitching products at Woolworth's, Maxwell Street, or the fair circuit? A long-term illness, maybe. What then? Back to poverty?
His success as an in-person pitchman was at its height in the mid 50s. Coincidentally, television was just starting its rise to stellar heights and Ron was intrigued by the medium. "In those days," he says, "you could advertise empty boxes on TV and sell them. But, we all know only undertakers can sell empty boxes and get away with it."
Popeil found he could produce a 60-second commercial for $500 at WFLA, a Tampa, FL television station, and did so. Actually, Ron would produce four commercials from one. From the two minute came the 90-second, the 60-second and the 30-second, a habit he got into over the years with all his short-form advertising.
"We always had a philosophy that, whether we need it or not, [we] do a two-minute commercial," he says. "Even in those days, two-minute time was hard to come by, but we always did all of them at one time for financial reasons.
Ron's first TV product was the Ronco Spray Gun. The Spray Gun was one of the few products Popeil has sold over the years that wasn't invented by either his father or himself. Basically, it was a gun-shaped garden hose nozzle with a chamber in the handle for tablets of soap, wax, weed killer, fertilizer, insecticide, or.. "Of course, sooner or later, the tablets would run out," he says, "and I was per se in the razor blade business, the business of selling tablets."
A real long-term plus for any product.
Although the commercial was produced in Florida, Popeil ran the spot on small stations in Illinois and Wisconsin, near Chicago, because the retail stores carrying Ron's products were in those TV markets. The commercial was a great success and Popeil was on his way to being one of the first people, other than a network president to make millions of dollars from the medium.
From the Ronco Spray Gun, Popeil moved on to using television to market several of his father's inventions. The first of these was the Chop-O-Matic. This product would institute a practice Ron has continued to this day - the unscripted presentation. Because Ron had demonstrated this product at Woolworth's, Maxwell State, as well as the State Fairs, Ron had refined the pitch. Popeil didn't write a script for the commercial. As Ron says, "Why bother? If I've been chopping away for 10 hours a day, giving the same pitch over and over again refining it a little bit each time, why would I ever need a script?"
By the early 60s, Ron was selling products exclusively over television. Ron and his father became wealthy from sales of kitchen gadgets that have become household words: Dial-O-Matic, Veg-O-Matic, Mince-O-Matic, Pocket Fisherman. In 1964, through TV Ronco pulled in $200,000 in sales. In 1968, the company's revenues were $8.8 million. But, now he used less of his father's products and more of his own.
The company continued doing business on TV throughout the 70's and early 80's. Then, disaster struck. An Chicago bank keeled over and Ronco's bank didn't want to follow suit. So, the bank called in all the company's I.O.U's. Ronco couldn't cover them because of the specific time period the bank wanted their money back. So, the bank took over the company's assets which consisted of products as well as accounts receivables. Now, Popeil didn't have control but he did have his personal fortune intact. When the bank prepared to auction off Ronco's assets, Ron offered the bank $2 million to buy it back. The bank said "thanks, but no thanks" and held its auction. The aggregate bid came to $1.2 million. The bank said "uh, Ron, does your offer still stand?" Ron said it did and he bought his company back for $2 million and put it back on its feet. Ron could have legally offered $1 more than the auction price but chose to keep his word with the bank.
At 52, Popeil went into semi-retirement and left most of the arduous operating tasks of Ronco to others. He still created product for the company. One of the products bought in the banker's auction was Ron's Electric Food Dehydrator. This product brought him back into more active marketing in 1990 when Fingerhut asked him to help sell it through an infomercial. Ron agreed to work with Fingerhut on the project but, because of some internal problems, they subsequently backed out of the deal at which time Ron decided to do the infomercial himself.
Today, Popeil is still going strong but he does find time to indulge in his favorite pastime, fishing. Whenever he can, Ron takes out one of his two fishing boats, one is called Popeil's Pocket Fisherman I and the other is called Popeil's Pocket Fisherman II. One is kept in California and the other is kept in Alaska. "The water's clean," he explains, "and I only attempt to catch fish I can eat. I just love fishing and, yes, I really do love and use my Pocket Fisherman."
Ronco/Popeil, now based in Chatsworth, CA, is more than just the Ronco Company. "We have a bunch of companies," Ron says. "We have Ronco Corporation, Popeil Inventions, R.P. Productions, Castle Advertising, etc.We advertise and promote all of our names. In marketing, it would be foolish not to." Altogether, these companies have 180 people on the payroll. Quality now is one reason Popeil prefers to sell only items he has developed. "I'm an inventor first and a marketer second," he says. "Other people in our business take the spaghetti approach. They throw a lot of stuff against the wall and hope something sticks. The failure rate is dependent solely on what you're throwing up against the wall. I don't operate that way. If I believe in a product idea, I'll put my time, money, and marketing skills behind it. It might take two-and-a-half years of my life to create and sell a product
hey f! you dont get the hole picture or you just want to be a revolutionary ? you put ese infront of your name .then act like one ! and homies inside dont use the other homies ! you watch to much movies ! and suck up to much lies!and to write something like that is not realy wise! it just say about you ! and i hope you have some kind of feed back !allright tell your demons to calm down!
damn, some of this shit is so fuckin true
lil trukos you dont have no say so either !you on leva list fool! so go and shoot your self!
Special Ed
SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY!!!
YOU DON'T RUN THIS SITE.
THIS ISN'T YOUR YARDA.
NOBODY WANTS YOUR LOP ASS HERE.
GO AWAY ! GO BACK TO MAFIA TIMES.
fuck you leva! look at your number !is 25 stupid! and you know what you just at the same level as punk as lil trukos ! so shut up stupid!
SURENEOS!buenos noches!
Hi Guy
Great stories (except for "S" showing up). I am from India. Here the game of cricket is huge, often leading to intense product advertisement wars. When India hosted the World Cup, Coke bagged the official sponsor rights. Pepsi promptly responded with a campaign that had the tag line: 'Pepsi: Nothing official about it'. In one fell swoop Pepsi converted adversity to opportunity and emerged the winner. The campaign is remembered till this date as Pepsi's most successful one in India. Maybe when all seems lost [as it does here] a surprise will appear.
:^)
1.
I'm goin' to leave old Texas now,
they've no more use for the longhorn cow.
2.
They've ploughed and fenced my cattle range,
and people there are all so strange.
3.
I'll take my horse, I'll take my rope,
and hit the trail upon a lope.
4.
Say adios to the Alamo,
and turn my head toward Mexico.
I hope your happy asshole Mrs. s
"ay te miro chamiro"
I say we all leave S alone to play by himself.Don't respond to the idiot.
Anonymous said...
I say we all leave S alone to play by himself.Don't respond to the idiot.
This has been suggested once before - however I'm in now!!
YES --- LIKE A TAPEWORM..
What do tape worms have to do with the smog in LA?
Some uninformed dork said:
What do tape worms have to do with the smog in LA?
You obviously just got here. the "smog question" is one that we've supplied over the topics at or close to the incremental hundredth post..It came up periodically ON THE HUNDREDS not whenever you braindead lops have a cranial fart or ca'nt conjur some of your own clever...
Like everything else around here, you've deflated the energy.. The Thrill is Gone.. Wally - pull the plug.. GJ
yes pepole S is back ! and i will never go home because this is my yarda! and to all you lames i dont trip keep on wofing! but waly probably got shoot! or got sick ! or got run over! so all you good pepole stay tune! S is stil here! c/m/r S
So this Mac Daddy wanna be wanted tintito is yet squalling from the playpen he calls his "yarda"?
This moron takes the cake for chest-banging stupidity. It's no wonder we lack any "quality"posts here. The retards have taken over the "yarda"!! HaHaHa If it was'nt so pitiful it'd be entertaining, but some of us knew this site when it had some class. There were knowledgeable folks putting down quality comments. The world took a look........Kiss THAT goodbye..
The "yarda" Mrs. S, is all your's..
fuck you stupid! bitch you aint got any class ! shut your snitch ass up ! you triple old fag! if you get of my nuts ! maybe pepole start posting info for your bitch ass! but for now go ahead and shoot your self !
s said...
I admit I am a joto but they kicked me out of the mafia times and I just need attention. My ex-old man used to beat the crap out of me to hard so I left him. I am loved starved and I am looking for male company. I want a big cbrone if you know what I mean (wink, wink).
On my resume I put that I used to stroll the Greyhound bus terminal on 7th looking for men who would be anxious to taste my sugar a la Mr. Ben Dover, but I was put on disability for flbby ass syndrome.
STOMPER I WOULD BE HAPPY TO SHARE YOUR BUNK. CALM DOWN HONEY I AM COMING! THIS HOMO WOULD NOT MISS IT FOR THE WORLD (WINK, WINK).
C/M/R S
C - CHUPO
M - MUCHO
R - RAPIDO
S - SILENCIOSO
Walter Mercado and Juan Gabriel are waiting for me so I have to go, you know - a girls nite out (wink, wink) oh honey I just love it when Walter and Juan play ruff with me!!!!!!!!!!!
THIS HORNY GAROTE MAN NEEDS YOUR RUKA MOMS PANOCHA MR. S (AKA SUCIO).....
NO SEAS PUTITO ESE....QUIERO MAMALE LA PANOCHA A TU MADRE Y HERMANAS.....
I GET YOU AND YOUR LITTLE CANALITOS OFF WELFARE BY THE END OF THIS YEAR, TE PROMETO LOKO!
THE VATO FROM FAGGETES WANTS TO GET DOWN WITH YOU AND WRESTLE OVER A LONG BEACH BLVD TRANSVESTE WALKING DICK....THE WINNER OUT OF BOTH OF YOU, GETS A FREE NIGHT WITH A LONG BEACH BLVD WALKING TRANSEXUAL WITH A LONG ASS GAROTE.....AT THE LOCAL SANTA FE AVE MOTEL....
I had to get on my knees and...
They made me.
s said...
s said... I admit I am a joto but they kicked me out of the mafia times and I just need attention. My ex-old man used to beat the crap out of me to hard so I left him. I am loved starved and I am looking for male company. I want a big cabrone if you know what I mean (wink, wink).
On my resume I put that I used to stroll the Greyhound bus terminal on 7th looking for men who would be anxious to taste my sugar a la Mr. Ben Dover, but I was put on disability for flabby ass syndrome.
s also said...
STOMPER I WOULD BE HAPPY TO SHARE YOUR BUNK. CALM DOWN HONEY THIS GIRL IS COMING! I WOULD NOT MISS IT FOR THE WORLD (WINK, WINK).
A lot of times I will sign off using these secret letters,
C/M/R/S
C - CHUPO
M - MUCHO
R - RAPIDO
S - SILENCIOSO
s said...
Walter Mercado and Juan Gabriel are waiting for me so I have to go, you know - a girls nite out (wink, wink) oh honey I just love it when Walter and Juan play ruff with me!!!!!!!!!!!
THIS HORNY GAROTE MAN NEEDS YOUR RUKA MOMS PANOCHA MR. S (AKA SUCIO).....
NO SEAS PUTITO ESE....QUIERO MAMALE LA PANOCHA A TU MADRE Y HERMANAS.....
I GET YOU AND YOUR LITTLE CANALITOS OFF WELFARE BY THE END OF THIS YEAR, TE PROMETO LOKO!
THE VATO FROM FAGGETES WANTS TO GET DOWN WITH YOU AND WRESTLE OVER A LONG BEACH BLVD TRANSVESTITE WALKING DICK....THE WINNER OUT OF BOTH OF YOU, GETS A FREE NIGHT WITH A LONG BEACH BLVD WALKING TRANSEXUAL WITH A LONG ASS GAROTE.....AT THE LOCAL SANTA FE AVE MOTEL.....
And now a word from Pocket Fisherman by Ronco
We are going to use these to fish your paltry ass Mrs. s
Anonymous said...
s said...
s said... I admit I am a joto but they kicked me out of the mafia times and I just need attention. My ex-old man used to beat the crap out of me to hard so I left him. I am loved starved and I am looking for male company. I want a big cabrone if you know what I mean (wink, wink).
On my resume I put that I used to stroll the Greyhound bus terminal on 7th looking for men who would be anxious to taste my sugar a la Mr. Ben Dover, but I was put on disability for flabby ass syndrome.
s also said...
STOMPER I WOULD BE HAPPY TO SHARE YOUR BUNK. CALM DOWN HONEY THIS GIRL IS COMING! I WOULD NOT MISS IT FOR THE WORLD (WINK, WINK).
A lot of times I will sign off using these secret letters,
C/M/R/S
C - CHUPO
M - MUCHO
R - RAPIDO
S - SILENCIOSO
s said...
Walter Mercado and Juan Gabriel are waiting for me so I have to go, you know - a girls nite out (wink, wink) oh honey I just love it when Walter and Juan play ruff with me!!!!!!!!!!!
THIS HORNY GAROTE MAN NEEDS YOUR RUKA MOMS PANOCHA MR. S (AKA SUCIO).....
NO SEAS PUTITO ESE....QUIERO MAMALE LA PANOCHA A TU MADRE Y HERMANAS.....
I GET YOU AND YOUR LITTLE CANALITOS OFF WELFARE BY THE END OF THIS YEAR, TE PROMETO LOKO!
THE VATO FROM FAGGETES WANTS TO GET DOWN WITH YOU AND WRESTLE OVER A LONG BEACH BLVD TRANSVESTITE WALKING DICK....THE WINNER OUT OF BOTH OF YOU, GETS A FREE NIGHT WITH A LONG BEACH BLVD WALKING TRANSEXUAL WITH A LONG ASS GAROTE.....AT THE LOCAL SANTA FE AVE MOTEL.....
i didnt know this blog was turned into a prison yard, hey s, hoe many times you raised your hand in real life, i vote none. But i bet when you were torcido, you were the vato they slapped the playboy on his back and went to town, then you cleaned up the mess, que no. Homie you sound like a wanna be, get the fuck outta here with your faggot ass prison talk, go back to the joint.
damn fagets i got you hot ! you fools lost a dictionary or what ! you fagets keep on writing same shit over and over! you fools are retarded triple cms pice of shits ! as for leva trukos ! fool you aint south sider ! keep sur out your buster mouth! YOU JUST NUTHING BUT LITLE PUNK!YEAH FOOLS GET SOME JOKES YOU BUNCH OF LAMES!ALL RIGHT THEN FUCK YOUR DEAD ONES!
What's the word on the street about the Mayate attack in Venice? Are the shoreline crips going to get away with the shit that they pulled?
Also - what is the news about the following:
"(Los Angeles, CA) -- An alleged gang member was shot and wounded by LAPD officers yesterday in South LA when two gang enforcement cops attempted to break up a crowd of suspected gang members. Police say that crowd was standing near 108th Street and Avalon Boulevard, and when approached by the officers one man fled. During the short chase police say the suspect pulled a gun and pointed it at them, one officer fired off two rounds hitting the suspect. He was taken to a local hospital with non-life threatening injuries. Police say they expect him to be charged with assault with a deadly weapon."
And also:
"(CBS) PALMDALE, Calif. Two parolees were behind bars Sunday after sheriff's detectives found guns, drugs and Nazi paraphernalia in their home.
Acting on a tip that a parolee had a firearm, detectives from the Los Angeles Sheriff's Department's Operation Safe Streets unit went to the home last night.
"In the location, conducted a parole search and ended up recovering 16 firearms, a large quantity of methamphetamine and snakes," sheriff's Detective Robert Gillis said."
OK!...LOL
1. fagets
2. litle
WHO LOST THEIR DICTIONARY!
damn ese go back to school. see don q, education is important, you were right.
oh yea, ms. S.......SUR 13!
trukos pukos what is pice of shit! its you trukos! lame ass punk! thats why you move up to bustervile cant hang in la leva! anyways your ass on leva list ! and fool you aint south sider! you just wanabe loca! and to anonymous! shoelaces got smash on back in a days ! for something like that ! they actuly move to gear gang! and i hope they get dealt with this time too! c/m/r/ s
trukos pukos what is pice of shit! its you trukos! lame ass punk! thats why you move up to bustervile cant hang in la leva! anyways your ass on leva list ! and fool you aint south sider! you just wanabe loca! and to anonymous! shoelaces got smash on back in a days ! for something like that ! they actuly move to gear gang! and i hope they get dealt with this time too! c/m/r/ s
^ this is your brain on crack ^
or what a retired jerker becomes after he's been rode hard..
Listen here little girl, Number 1 Im moving back to LOS in one month, so tell your sister to get the pussy tight for me, And number 2 its takes more balls to rep the sur up here then in your home turf, because everyone up here is an enimiga, faggot ass, and you still cant spell.Hey ms. S, dont look at me, dont look at me little puppet, you fake ass wanna be gangbanger! QUE VARRIO?!
Could these two posts have been the harbinger of these to come on this blog as far as net banging?
In post # 1 one calls the other a "bitch".
In post # 2 one claims his gang as # 1 and rhetorically asks "who is the dumb ass?"
It seems that after this date of Friday, August 05, 2005 the cancer started to grow??????????
Friday, August 05, 2005
# ONE
Anonymous said...
"San Quentin riot was Woods vs Busters from up North"
your a bitch for net banging!
why didn't the southerners get involved on the whites behalf?
# TWO
702GangSta said...
--Vegas Gangs--
In The Hat
Let me clear something up for yall. 28st is the biggest and oldest gang out here in Vegas. Dont believe everything you hear these people dont know shit about what goes on out here. This is our back yard we run this shit We are the most feared gang out here in vegas so dont get it twisted for one sec. And who is the dumbass who said we aint go no youngsters man whoever typed that up i can tell you dont know shit. And 28st is dead because on san chucos? I laughed so hard my ribs were hurting and shit. Well anyways about the SUR we dont have nothing against them but we will be damed if we BOW DOWN to LA fuck fleas this is NEVADA 13. Fleas hate us because we punmk them all da time on the strip when we see some mothefucka with a flea hat's on. LA hates 28st because we the only gang who dont bow down to LA get that shit outa here I mean dont get me wrong we dont have nothing against surenos who keep it cool when they come out here and know where they at. But we dont like fleas who come out here thinking this there HOOD Never will that happen. And far as turf wise we still run the eastside East Las if your from vegas you should already know that
12:52 AM
las vegas is a big ass wanne gang town, full of tweekers
Friday, August 05, 2005
From Wally's archives
QUESTION TO ALL:
Could these two posts have been the harbinger of the "fuck fest" to come - as far as net banging on this blog?
In post # 1 one calls the other a "bitch".
In post # 2 one claims his gang as # 1 and rhetorically asks "who is the dumb ass?"
It seems that after this date of Friday, August 05, 2005 the cancer started to grow??????????
From - Friday, August 05, 2005
# ONE
Anonymous said...
"San Quentin riot was Woods vs Busters from up North"
your a bitch for net banging!
why didn't the southerners get involved on the whites behalf?
# TWO
702GangSta said...
--Vegas Gangs--
In The Hat
Let me clear something up for yall. 28st is the biggest and oldest gang out here in Vegas. Dont believe everything you hear these people dont know shit about what goes on out here. This is our back yard we run this shit We are the most feared gang out here in vegas so dont get it twisted for one sec. And who is the dumbass who said we aint go no youngsters man whoever typed that up i can tell you dont know shit. And 28st is dead because on san chucos? I laughed so hard my ribs were hurting and shit. Well anyways about the SUR we dont have nothing against them but we will be damed if we BOW DOWN to LA fuck fleas this is NEVADA 13. Fleas hate us because we punmk them all da time on the strip when we see some mothefucka with a flea hat's on. LA hates 28st because we the only gang who dont bow down to LA get that shit outa here I mean dont get me wrong we dont have nothing against surenos who keep it cool when they come out here and know where they at. But we dont like fleas who come out here thinking this there HOOD Never will that happen. And far as turf wise we still run the eastside East Las if your from vegas you should already know that
12:52 AM
This blog has been hijacked by youngsters who want to net bang.
Don Q, Gava Joe, and the others like him that used this blog to relive old times must be Jones'ing like a motha.
But the best thing about it being taken over by new blood is that the arrogant, abrasive, antagonistic asshole StillNoScript
hasn't posted in awhile. He used the blog (in a very feeble attempt I might add) to show us how smart he was. When he really is just a self-hating white boy who wishes to hell he could be a minority, ANY MINORITY.
Oh, make no mistake about it, he has posted lately under the "anonymous" label. His arrogance was too much for even the other liberals and they started checking him. So then he went the anonymous route. But now he's been silent for quite awhile.
THANKS YOUNGBLOOD for shutting him
up. Sorry Don Q, Gava Joe, TJ Jailer and all the rest of you who had something to say worth hearing.
You had to fall on your sword to shut StillNoScript up, and it was well worth it in this liberals mind.
mr s you have already shown yourself to be full of shit,your a fake nobody beleaves your bulshit your just some little kid talking shit, you make lil trukos look hard.roll it up your a bitch, you just want people to stat doing the s poke cause your jelous of liltukos but nobodys interested.
s you have proven to be no more than refuse, waste matter, sweepings, and leavings.
s your writing is worthless, your talk is worthless, you are a cliché pure and simple.
s you are dull. Really dull.
s you posts are forever unvaried, and forever monotonous.
S you are incredibly boring, and a selfish sloth.
"You had to fall on your sword to shut StillNoScript up, and it was well worth it in this liberals mind.
3:28 PM"
Nobody's going to shut StillNoScript up because, as you pointed out, he now posts anonymous. Smart move, considering that most who angrily object to his posts hide under the anonymous label, too.
And, stop calling yourself a liberal. You're a cop, or a conservative journalist. And, since you've invested so much into protecting Whites and villifying minorities, you're amazed that there are actually White people out there that would try harder to identify with Black or Mexican culture than their own, something that's unheard of in the decade you're obviously still living in, the 1950s.
No real liberal would ever hold it against a White person for not wanting to be White, believe me.
I may be wrong on this but I don't think Wallace has ever taken so much "time" in posting as now?
Wally has not posted in 45 days. We know he took a vacation in july of 2005 as referenced by these old posts:
Tuesday, July 26, 2005
OFF THE AIR FOR THE NEXT WEEK
There won't be any posting until August 3. Ithehat is going on vacation. Until then, stay safe and catch me up in if anything happens while we're kayaking.
posted by Wally | 5:54 AM | 219 comments
Thursday, August 04, 2005
BACK FROM VACATION
Before I left for the ultra-montane serenity of the Grand Tetons, I was thinking of asking a guest blogger to carry on. When I got back, I realized you all kept the chatter going at a high pitch. Awesome! I didn't realize so many wise-guys checked in. I got huge laughs from the sniping and I didn't even mind the un-PC jokes. But then again, I've got a thick skin. I did a quick tabulation and it seems like every ethnic and racial group got its turn in the barrel. So I guess that makes it fair.
For those who wondered where I went, the answer is Wyoming. We kayaked, hiked, camped out, got rained on, sunburned, hailed on in Yellowstone, bitten by a zillion bugs, went into lakes cold enough to stop your heart, drifted down the Snake River, and had close encounters with moose, elk, marmots, bison, bald eagles, otters, ospreys, grouse and hawks. And no, we didn't witness or hear about any float-bys.
The biggest crime story in the papers the week we were there involved a streaker at the Jackson Hole demolition derby. Like Mutton Bustin' and greased pig wrestling, streaking the demo derby is some kind of annual tradition. Hey, it's Wyoming. And July is the only month when they don't get snow. This year, there was "huge" controversy when one of the streakers grabbed a fire extinguisher off the firetruck that was hosing down the dirt between demo heats. A Teton County deputy sheriff and a security guard tried to wrangle the naked guy. When it looked like nude boy was getting ready to spray the cop, the copper tased him with 50,000 volts. The crowd went nuts, booed the cop and threw beer cups and trash into the arena.
The streaker was arrested and released and could face a $750 fine for indecent exposure. A lawyer in the crowd volunteered to defend the guy for free. Chances are, that'll be the biggest crime story of the year. Nothing much happens in Wyoming compared to LA. The entire state has less than 500,000 residents. And at last count, there were 1,500 inmates behind bars in the entire prison system, and that includes juvi, half way houses, honor ranches etc. Barely enough to qualify as a decent sized single neighborhood in LA.
Vice President Dick Cheney flew into town the day after we landed. He's a resident and avid fly fisherman. A fishing guide told me that local anglers get bent out of shape when the Veep goes fishing. When he's on the river, Blackhawk choppers do security sweeps and that scares the crap out of the trout, ruining everybody's fishing.
With so much land and so few people, you'd think real estate would be a buyer's market. Think again. Raw land in "desirable" locations can go for a million per acre. A modest house in downtown Jackson will run you half a million to $600,000. Right on the corner of Cache and Broadway in Jackson, Sotheby's has a real estate office where you can look at ranch property on the Snake River that goes from 5 to 10 million dollars. Kinda makes Highland Park look like a bargain.
Gotta go. There's 143 emails I need to read and a pile of mail that needs sorting.
posted by Wally | 10:31 AM
did you here about the shooting at Venice High. A mayate from Venice shoreline crips shot and killed a seventeen year old. The seventeen year old was mexican and was trying to help his younger brother who was being mugged by two or three mayates. The mayates were trying to steal a chain from the younger brother when the older brother tried to help him. The brothers may be affilated to Venice 13 or the Culver City
Boyz and people and the cops suspect it might start a war like in the early 90s where over 24 people were killed
ck said...
did you here about the shooting at Venice High. A mayate from Venice shoreline crips shot and killed a seventeen year old.
OK mrs s WHY DON"T YOU GO TO VENICE HIGH AND SHAKE SOME BUSHES??
You know - this story really makes one sick and angry.
The story is a tragedy and I feel for the parents and siblings. I have no idea what will come.
I did a quick google...
Fatal Shooting at Venice High School
Los Angeles Times, CA - Jun 7, 2006
Alejo Contreras, 16, received a knife wound under his eye during a struggle with five males in the faculty parking lot of Venice High School on Monday. ...
Teen Killed In Shooting At Venice High School
Standard-Speaker, PA - Jun 5, 2006
... parking lot. A teenage boy was shot and killed in the Venice High School parking lot. The shooting occurred at 3:10 pm, police said. ...
Shooting Reveals Venice Tensions
ktla 5, CA - Jun 9, 2006
... LAPD detectives are searching for the gunman in the Venice High shooting. They say that a black teen — possibly an Oakwood gang ...
Venice High Shooting
Santa Monica Mirror, CA - Jun 8, 2006
Monday’s shooting death at Venice High School has left that community awash in confusion about the details of what happened, trepidation about what it may or ...
Teen killed in Venice High shooting
Long Beach Press-Telegram, CA - Jun 6, 2006
... junior at Venice High, but no other details were immediately available, said Susan Cox, a spokeswoman for the Los Angeles Unified School District. The shooting ...
LOS ANGELES POLICE: Shooting Death at High School
noticias.info, Spain - Jun 7, 2006
... asking for the public's help in locating any witnesses to a shooting in which ... 3:10 pm, 17-year-old Augustine Contreras was on campus at Venice High School, in ...
Mar Vista: Student shot, killed at Venice High
Marina del Rey Argonaut, CA - Jun 8, 2006
... Los Angeles City Councilman Bill Rosendahl, who was at Venice High School after the shooting, said city and school officials need to "take a hard look" at what ...
Student Fatally Shot at Venice High
Los Angeles Times, CA - Jun 5, 2006
... The racial and gang overtones of the shooting raised concerns among community activists ... officers usually are on campus, six will be at Venice High today as a ...
Police Presence in Oakwood Does not Snare Killer of High School ...
VenicePaper, CA - Jun 6, 2006
... The shooting occurred after an argument broke out between Latino and African-American students in a Venice High School parking lot around 3 pm Sand said the ...
Gentrification Divides Venice's Oakwood Area
Los Angeles Times, CA - Jun 8, 2006
... Monday's shooting death of Agustin Contreras, 17, at Venice High School has brought residents' simmering fears and resentments over this gentrification spewing ...
AM news: Oakwood, Glendale, teachers and students
LAist, CA - Jun 9, 2006
death in venice - The shooting death of 17-year-old Agustin Contreras on the ground of Venice High prompts the LA Times to look closely at the Oakwood ...
Teen Shot to Death at LA High School
Forbes - Jun 5, 2006
... The victim was a student at Venice High School, where the shooting occurred shortly after school let out. No other details were ...
Student Shot Outside LA High School
Guardian Unlimited, UK - Jun 5, 2006
... The victim was a 15-year-old student at Venice High School, where the shooting occurred shortly after 3 pm No other details were available, said Ellen Morgan ...
Student fatally shot outside LA high school
WALB-TV, GA - Jun 5, 2006
... old died at a hospital. The victim was a student at Venice High School, where the shooting occurred shortly after school let out. ...
High School Student Shot
VenicePaper, CA - Jun 5, 2006
... City Councilman Bill Rosendahl went to Venice High School this afternoon and, as we post ... The shooting comes just a day before Councilman Rosendahl is to hold a ...
Councilman To Host Town Hall on Racial Tensions
VenicePaper, CA - Jun 5, 2006
The meeting is set for the Oakwood Recreation Center, 767 California Avenue, and comes one day after a fatal shooting at Venice High School. ...
Berube: Growing up quickly
Hernando Today, FL - 9 hours ago
... the group by a wide margin after shooting nine hole ... idea where she will end up in high school, but ... Briana Carlson, Inverness 13; 2. Casey Kennedy, Venice 8; 3 ...
Slain Teen Was Trying to Protect His Brother
ktla 5, CA - Jun 7, 2006
... who was not involved in gangs, was shot to death at Venice High School as he ... It was the first fatal shooting on a Los Angeles Unified School District campus in ...
Student fatally shot outside LA high school
WKYC-TV, OH - Jun 5, 2006
... hospital. The victim was a student at Venice High School, where the shooting occurred shortly after school let out. Police chased ...
Police believe shooting of LA student gang-related
San Diego Union Tribune, United States - Jun 6, 2006
LOS ANGELES – The family of a student fatally shot in a Venice High School parking lot said Tuesday the teenager was killed over a fight for a diamond ...
Can't We All Calm Down?
LA Weekly, CA - Jun 7, 2006
... Venice High felt as normal as could be expected for a multiracial big-city school a day after a gang shooting. It was ditch day. ...
High school student shot and killed after campus fight
Press-Enterprise (subscription), CA - Jun 5, 2006
... a 17-year-old junior at Venice High, was taken to a hospital in critical condition where he later died, said Officer Mike Lopez. The shooting occurred around 3 ...
Police seek suspect in killing of LA student after campus fight
San Diego Union Tribune, United States - Jun 6, 2006
Augustine Contreras, a 17-year-old junior at Venice High, died at a hospital following the shooting, which occurred shortly after school let out Monday ...
LAPD: Calif. school shooting gang-related
San Jose Mercury News, USA - Jun 7, 2006
... Agustin Contreras, a junior at Venice High School, died shortly after school let out Monday afternoon. Police said Contreras had ...
Police believe shooting of LA student gang-related
KESQ, CA - Jun 6, 2006
LOS ANGELES The family of a student shot to death in a Venice High School parking lot says the teenager was killed over a fight for a diamond necklace. ...
LOS ANGELES -- The family of a student fatally shot in a Venice High School parking lot said Tuesday the teenager was killed over a fight for a diamond necklace.
Police searched for the gunman, who they believed to be part of a gang.
Agustin Contreras, a 17-year-old junior at Venice High, died after being shot during a fight shortly after school let out Monday afternoon. Police said Contreras had gone to the aid of two brothers, who were fighting with at least five young men.
Agustin's 16-year-old brother, Alejo Contreras, said two students approached and told him to hand over the diamond-studded cross around his neck.
"They came out of nowhere and said something like 'I like your chain, homie,' " Alejo told The Los Angeles Times.
Alejo said the assailant grabbed for the chain and yelled out the name of a local black gang.
In the scuffle, one of the men shot the boy in the upper torso and the group fled on foot, police said. No arrests have been made.
Worried about retaliatory attacks, police and community leaders Tuesday called for calm and organized community meetings.
Some activists said the killing could cause an escalation in tensions as Hispanic gangs seek payback. Police said the assailants were black, while the victim was Hispanic.
"There are all-black gangs, there are Latino gangs that have black gang members," said Oscar de la Torre, founder of the Pico Youth and Family Center, a facility for at-risk youths. "Still, that doesn't keep them from retaliating. It's gang-related, it's race-related. There's a lot of layers to it."
Venice High has long experienced problems linked to gang-plagued neighborhoods surrounding the campus.
In the early 1990s, several killings in the Oakwood neighborhood were connected to violence between black and Hispanic gangs.
"The kids that feed into this school come from a community that has active gangs, and the schools are a reflection of this," said school Officer Jose Santome.
The neighborhood, about a mile inland from Venice Beach, has been experienced gentrification in recent years as the area becomes a prime spot for middle-income families wanting to live near the sea.
The Contreras family, Agustin's parents and four brothers, live in a modest apartment just east of Venice. Agustin's older brother, Jesus, 18, graduated from the high school last year.
The two brothers who survived the fight said they believed their brother was a victim of a routine school fight. But Jesus, the eldest brother, believes it was a reflection of the school's problem with gang violence.
"There's all sorts of gangs," he said. "It's always been like that. There's no control in that school at all."
No real liberal would ever hold it against a White person for not wanting to be White, believe me.
And there it is there. You admit it. What a loser.
rEALITY!
MAYATES HAVE BEEN CRYING LIKE LITTLE BITCHES ABOUT THE MEXICANS-CHICANOS-PISAS....AND EVERYONE INCLUDED IN THIS BIG ASS BEANER BOWL...I'M A BEANER AND PROUD OF IT......LIKE THE VATO STATED EARLIER "Y QUE PUTO".
sO, REALITY....MAYATES ARE UPSET THAT THE GOVERNMENT WONT GIVE THEM ANY MORE FREE HAND OUT JOBS TO CALM THEM DOWN FROM RIOTING, LIKE IN THE 196OS.
sO, REALITY....THEY COMPLAIN ABOUT THE MEXICAN FOR TAKING EMPLOYMENT AND OVERCROWING THEIR SCHOOLS......
MAYATES DONT EVER TALK ABOUT HOW ALL THE WHITE GOOD EDUCATED TEACHERS LEFT THE INNER-CITIES DUE TO DIS-SEGREGATION...."WHITE FLIGHT" THE WHITE PEOPLES SOLUTION TO SAYING "FUCK THE NIGGERS". ALL THOSE WHITES ARE NOW IN NEWPORT BEACH AND THEIR KIDS ARE THE LAST TWO GENERATION OF NIGGER HATE....
rEALITY, MAYATES ARE FUCKING LAZY AND WANT A FREE HANDOUT WHEREEVER THEY GO. mAYATES REFUSE TO READ BOOKS AND MOVE ON TO COLLEGE....
rEALITY,
NO TINTO WANTS TO DO A JOB FOR $8.00 AN HOUR, THEY THINK THEY DESERVE A FUCKING $40.00 JOB WITH NO EDUCATION, NO EXPERIENCE, AND NOT WANTING SOME WHITE OR BROWN DICK BOSS AND TELLING THEM WHAT TO DO....
reALITY, CRY BABY BITCHES....
MAYATES BLAME THE GOVERNMENT FOR PLACING THEM AT A LOW LEVEL INCOME AFTER THE CIVIL RIGHTS....
BIG FUCKING DEAL, MEXICANS CROSS THE BORDERS, IMMIGRATED, AND BECOME SUCCESSFUL....NO ONE GAVE A PISAS A HELPING HAND A BUCKET TO PEE IN...........
DID A PISAS TALK ENGLISH?
DID A PISAS COMPLAIN ABOUT GETTTING A LOW PAYING PIECE OF SHIT JOB?
WHAT THE PISA ABLE TO GO TO COMMUNITY COLLEGE A GET A GED?
DOES THE PISAS STAND IN LINE ASKING FOR FREE GOVERNMENT HAND OUTS OR GENERAL RELIEF?
FUCK NO
WHITES SHOULD BE MORE UPSET OVER THE MAYATES THEN THE ISSUE OF MEXICANS CROSSING THE BORDER....
rEALITY!
THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT COMPLAIN ABOUT THE MEXICANS CROSSING THE BORDERS ARE THOSE TRAILER TRASH WHITES WHO NEVER MADE ENOUGH MONEY TO LIVE IN A NICE HOME OR RETIRE IN COMFORT.......VERY SIMILAR TO THE MAYATES ....CRY BABY'S BITCHES...
rEALITY, THE MAJORITY OF THESE WHITES HAVE DRUG ADDICTED METH HEAD WHITE CHILDREN AND TRY TO BLAME THE MEXICANS AND EVERYONE ELSE BUT THEMSELF FOR BEING FUCKED UP REJECT DISFUNCTIONAL PARENTS....
MAKING EXCUSES FOR PARENTAL FAILURE AND GETTING DOCTORS TO SAY THAT THEIR KIDS ARE A.D.D.....BULL SHIT.
rEALITY, THE ONLY WHITES i HEAR COMPLAINING IS WORKING CLASS WHITES WHO GET UPSET THAT A MEXICAN IS MAKING EQUAL OR MORE MONEY AND STILL TALKS MORE SPANISH THAN ENGLISH....
rEALITY,
1ST GENERATION MEXICANS ARE GOING TO COLLEGE, GRADUATING, AND ENTERING/COMPETING IN THE WORK FORCE AGAINST WHITES........CAN NOT SEE OR ACCEPT A BROWN COLLEGE EDUCATED MEXICAN TAKING ON A HIGHER PAID JOB.....
-dIVINE dESTINY CAN NOT BE ABANDONED.
rEALITY, WHITES WANT THE MEXICAN TO GO HOME DUE TO THE ECONOMICAL PRESSURE THAT THIS COUNTRY IS PASSING THROUGH....
rEALITY, LIKE ROME, USA, WILL FALL APART WHETHER I SEE IT IN MY LIFETIME OR NOT....WHO IN THE FUCK CARES WE ALL WILL BE DEAD AND ALL THIS CONTROVERSIAL BULL SHIT WILL BE WORTHLESS.......
rEALITY,
GOING BACK TO THE FUCKING MAYATES....
aLL HISPANIC GANG MEMBERS HAVE A RIGHT TO RETALIATE ON THIS BLACK GANG WHETHER THE COMMUNITY LIKES IT OR NOT....
tHE BLACK FAMILY MEMBERS OF THE SHORELINE CRIPS CAN CRY LIKE BITCHES FOR THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT TO ASSIST IN STOPPING THE RETALIATION....FUCK YOU
yOU ARE THE REASON WHY YOUR MAYATE SONS DIDN'T LEARN RESPECT AND PRINCIPLES. ....
THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND POLITICIANS HAVE NO RIGHT TO STICK THEIR FUCKING NOSE IN A TOTALLY RACIAL MOTIVATED ATTACK....
THE MAYATES PARENTS ARE CRYING LIKE BITCHES FOR HELP BECAUSE THIER FUCKED UP KIDS ARE ALL SHORELINE CRIPS....FUCK THEM...!!!!!!!
rEALITY!
A "BLACK" PERSON THAT HAS BROUGHT UP THEIR KIDS PROPER WOULD NOT BE CRYING ABOUT RETALITATION, DUE TO HAVING SELF ASSURANCE THAT THIER CHILDREN ARE NOT GANG BANGERS AND ARE IN NO HARM...
rEALITY,
WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO PULL THE FUCKING PLUG ON TALK RADIO STATIONS.....WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO GET THE MESSAGE THAT WE DONT WANT TO HEAR ANY FURTHER CONSERVATIVE ISSUES AND WE CARE LESS ABOUT SOME UNKNOWN RADIO HOST........
LIKE ANY POLITICAL PARTY, CONSERVATIVES ARE THIEVES...CROOKS.....AND POCKET MORE MONEY THAN ANY LOS ANGELES GANG MEMBER 211 BANG ROBBERING SUSPECT....
CONSERVATIVES ARE BIGOTS....AND AMERICA DOESN'T GIVE A FUCK....
CONSERVATIVES ARE UNDERCOVER CHILD MOLESTERS AND FAGS....
CONSERVATIVES ARE AGAINST ABORTION BUT REFUSE TO GIVE MONEY TO WELFARE.........hyPOCRITES ..
CONSERVATIVES WANT MEXICANS TO BE DEPORTED BUT BIG BUSINESS CONSERVATIVES BEG FOR THE MEXICAN TO STAY (CHEAP LABOR)........HYPOCRITES......!
cONSERVATES SAY THEY ARE RELIGIOUS AND BELIEVE IN GOD'S WORDS....HOLY BIBLE BULL SHIT
THEY GET CAUGHT FOR EMBELLZLEMENT ....WHAT HAPPENED TO SHALL NOT STEAL?
i'M SAYING THAT LIBERALS ARE ANY BETTER BUT LETS NOT BE FUCKING HYPOCRITES...PUTOS...
your right, I never see mexicans family getting help from the local politicians, sheriffs, lapd, when they are threaten by black retalitation. black politician and peachers dont care about the hispanic community. hispanics dont attend or economically support black churches nor do they vote for blacks politicans. In my view, black politicans and local peachers are mostly all racist against latinos. they only care about one color, "BLacK".
I hear them advocate for the "black community" and not for the "entire community".
I believe Lee Baca is a disgrace to LASD.
baca only cares to make the black community happy to gain votes. The black community dont even like him, they just tolerate him. he should just let compton gang members kill each other. who cares about a uneducated black drug dealer.
s,
WHY ARE YOU NOT THUMPING YOUR CHEST OVER IN FRONT OF THE VENICE SHORELINE CRIPS? YOU APPEAR ONLY WHEN IT'S CONVENIENT FOR YOU? WE UNDERSTAND YOU - YOU DON'T WANT TO GET YOUR NOSE BLOODIED!!!
YEAH, SAVE YOUR BREATH ON A REPLY PAL - YOU'LL NEED IT TO BLOW UP YOUR DATE TONITE.
THERE ARE R-E-A-L BROWN WARRIORS WHO WILL TAKE CARE OF THIS!!!
YOU SAID YOU WERE AT PELICAN, REMEMBER??
MUST OF BEEN AT THE RUSTY PELICAN SEAFOOD AND STEAK RESTAURANT IN GLENDALE. QUE NO?? PAYASO!!!
HOPE YOU ARE ENJOYING YOUR "NEW NIKE'S"?? I'M SURE YOU BOUGHT THEM FOR THOSE FAST GETAWAYS FROM GHINGASOS!!!
s,
WHY ARE YOU NOT THUMPING YOUR CHEST OVER IN FRONT OF THE VENICE SHORELINE CRIPS? YOU APPEAR ONLY WHEN IT'S CONVENIENT FOR YOU? WE UNDERSTAND YOU - YOU DON'T WANT TO GET YOUR NOSE BLOODIED!!!
YEAH, SAVE YOUR BREATH ON A REPLY PAL - YOU'LL NEED IT TO BLOW UP YOUR DATE TONITE.
THERE ARE R-E-A-L BROWN WARRIORS WHO WILL TAKE CARE OF THIS!!!
YOU SAID YOU WERE AT PELICAN, REMEMBER??
MUST OF BEEN AT THE RUSTY PELICAN SEAFOOD AND STEAK RESTAURANT IN GLENDALE. QUE NO?? PAYASO!!!
HOPE YOU ARE ENJOYING YOUR "NEW NIKE'S"?? I'M SURE YOU BOUGHT THEM FOR THOSE FAST GETAWAYS FROM CHINGASOS!!!
HERES YOUR FIRST POST ON THIS BLOG:
S said...
THIS STUPIT COMENT PLACE BY A BUSTER THATS PELICAN BAY AND SOLEDAD RUN BY BUSTERS IS BULSHIT I DID 9 YEARS AT PELICAN BAY SHU AND MAIN LINE AND I DID TIME AT SOLEDAD JUST GOT OUT FROM NORTH FACILITY B YARD SHASTA HALL .AND ITS ON WITH MAYATES AND TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH ITS ABOUT 15 BUSTERS ON \THE YARD SO STOP WOOFING STUPID
4:01 PM
PURO CUENTO.
Danm! Bill Crosby is right!
Little Trukos,
My fingers are cold ese. Can we play hide the dedo?
sick them in your mom's pussy, like evryone else does, besides you said thats a norteno thing
Acapulco Jailer says:
Actually Youngtruck the dedo en el culo con mucho gusto is more a San Joaquin Valle thing.. Fresno Bulldogs appreciate the appropriate poke in the ass. It makes them feel "closer" to their carnales..
For Racial Unity... "Look to the cookie".
-Jerry Seinfeld while eating a chocolate/vanilla cookie.
lil trukos ill poke you than you can poke me
Listen to me; you're all stupid. You should all be sucking my dick right now. I'm done posting. Wally, I've put better shit on this blog than you... but fuck this, I'm starting a new blog. Alright then dumb fucks... I'm done... if anyone is looking for me, I'll be getting my dick sucked by 'Sancha' sipping on her lemonade. You all should get a fucken life... I'm out snitches.
Some good points there from the oc
My take on the racial divide is merely neuclear breakdown. You can say newcular if you choose. This is an unbiased contribution..
By neuclear I mean the FAMILY! I'm going to catch flak for saying that the closer the family- the more stable the neighborhood, and the more self-sufficient, socially responsible, etc.. Too many black kids from the last 30 yrs got raised "latchkey", single parents, the Welfare lazy syndrome, all the negative truth that gets blacks all in a frenzy, and keeps their corners full of dealers..
Chicanos have historically maintained closer ties within the family unit and the payoff is twofold: It promotes self-worth within the community and it helps to keep the govt out of your business (and that's a lg plus)..
The government has no right to your space if you keep the law and earn your own.. Simple - this IS a currency-fed govt. If we can stay off the handout rolls - they (the jura) will pursue the liabilities, not the assets.... Does that make any sense at all?
My alter-gavacho take is that the mayates see the Chicano coming strong. That they feel threatened as relates to their stronghold on the "freebies" that me and my card-carrying union workers have rendered unto them for time in memorial (forever).. I live in Kansas, redneck center of the country, but you'll play hell to find an hombre who denigrates a man who can do a day's work and is "standup".. These good old boys do'nt hate for no reason! If they see a neighborhood of shotgun houses in Wichita with weeds growin high as the windows, shoes hangin off the phone lines, barefoot rugrats runnin the streets, and an Escalade parked in every driveway, by Gawd they going to speak right up - and get judgemental...
That's America. My own immigrant strain came through Ellis Island, not the Rio Grande, but the journey's identical.. Keep your families strong and together we'll muddle through this mess..
Jesus, I sound like my late father.. Por Dios!!!!!
That was not our TijuanaJailer!
It was an imposter.
THE REAL...
TijuanaJailer will be in BLUE INK and UNDERLINED.
yeah its sumer time!the seson is on! RAZA taking over LOS ! tintos moving to desert citys! pigs are geting paranoid! walys back! pepole wofing ! parole agents try to lock pepole up ! riots cracking in pintas and county jails! partys every day! so to all homies dont be sleping on the streets ! because you my just become a memory in somebodys head !so pepole have a firme sumet! con mucho respectos S
puro SUR 13!!!
SURENEOS !!! buenos noches!
S
You are like a bad case of the crabs.You just keep comming back even though nobody wants you around.
fuck you stupid !wally welcome back! i hope you post something firme ! well homies buenos noches! and despensa for being on the tier after buenos noches!PURO SUR 13 !!! atodos camaradas !!! buenos noches!!!
FUCK SUR 13.
BOOM.
I love these comments.You guy's are Humorous to say the least.
- A "Black" person that has brought up their kids would not be crying about retaleation,due to the self assurance that their children are not gang bangers and in no harm.
YES , SO YOU MEXICANS MUST RAISE YOUR CHILDREN WITH THE BEST MORALS AND STANDARDS BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THAT THE GANG PROBLEM IN LA IS ONLY A BLACK PROBLEM.THEIR ARE NO MEXICAN OR LATINO GANGS IN LOS ANGELES.
-Does Pisas stand in line asking for free government assistance or general releif?
HELL YES!IT'S CALLED WELFARE.AND YOU GUY'S ARE STANDING IN THE SAME LINE I AM TRYING TO SELL YOUR TAMALES.
- The only people complaining about the Mexicans crossing the borders are the trailer trash whites.
DO YOU REALLY BELIVE THAT?AMERICA DOESN'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THOSE TRAILER TRASH WHITES ANY MORE THAN THEY CARE ABOUT YOU OR ME.AMERICA HAS GIVEN UP ON THE TRAILER TRASH WHITES TOO.DO YOU REALLY THINK ALL THIS BORDER CAMOTION IS GOING ON BECAUSE A BUNCH OF RED NECKS ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE TO GET A JOB?HELL NO , AMERICA ONLY JUMPS WHEN THE RICH TELL THEM TO.
- Chicanos have historically maintained closer ties within the family and the pay off is twofold.
THIS ONE IS THE BEST."THE PAYOFF IS TWOFOLD" YEAH, CHICANOS OUT NUMBER ANY OTHER RACE IN PRISON BY TWOFOLD.JUST READ THE PREVIOUS COMMENTS.NOT ONLY DO YOU GUY'S OUT NUMBER EVERY OTHER RACE IN CALIFORNIA,BUT ALSO NEVADA,NEW MEXICO,TEXAS AND I WOULD DARE TO SAY COLORADO TOO.SO HOW DO YOU MAINTAIN THOSE CLOSER TIES? BY GOING TO SEE DADDY IN PRISON?
Get off your high horse every race has their Good ,Bad, and Ugly.
s said...
...well homies buenos noches! and despensa for being on the tier after buenos noches!PURO SUR 13 !!! atodos camaradas !!! buenos noches!!!
s,
are you really raza??
You write BUENOS instead of buenas??
...and DESPENSA instead of dispensa?? And you've made others.
Hey Mr.S
FUCK YOU STUPID !
Hey S, your a lop, you dont even got the program shut down list right, if you were real you would know howit really goes, go with the mayates and speak the swaheeli good night
Yeah and the makers of "Girls Gone Wild" videos are gettin rich behind all that FEMA money buying their vids.. More handouts - more greed...
Get off your high horse every race has their Good ,Bad, and Ugly.
True.
...but some way more - far more.
Como dice todo Sur America - los negros la joden todo.
Gava and Half Breed, you guys are both idiots. I live in Orange County and have gone to Santa Ana to take care of city business and the welfare lines are full of latinos. Don't give me that only blacks take handouts, fucking paisas take welfare like a Churro at the fair. Where was that family unity during the Rodney King riots?? There were more mexicans looting than niggers!
Gava if Latinos are so family oriented and helps foster a better communtiy, then explain to me why some of most dangerous places in California are in mostly hispanic areas of East L.A., Pomona. There are just as many dangerous black neighborhoods as well.
I'm a professional Latino and I see my own people dragging us down. You guys are so quick to point to Mayates being animals but turn you head when young latinos accindentally shoot innocents, or kill policeman, or prey on their own.
So stop trying to use the church and family to cover up the shame of our own people. Do we really value life more than blacks? Then why do hundreds of young latinos die every year?
There used to be a pachuco code, protect your nieghborhood and the peopl that live there and never involve civilians. That code is long gone with young cholos trying to prove their machismo. So how are they better than the crips or bloods?
Remember, an animal is something that does not have rational thought or repect for life. I see animals that both black and brown.
Our people need more that just "strong family ties". They need to use their menta and not their brawn.
Anonymous said...
Gava and Half Breed, you guys are both idiots.
Well that settles that?!?
Interesting theory. So far you are very unimpressive if I may say so, you big dope! Do you have like any experience in journalism, idiot?
Anonymous said...
Gava and Half Breed, you guys are both idiots.
Thank those idiots. We had 4 comments that were'nt "poke" oriented..
All that judgemental crap - calling out "idiot" on a contributor do'nt solve anything. Those guys are welcome to their opinions and any move away from the cacada that's been here is welcome in my book.
Sometimes I wonder if Wally even notices the comments section. He's probably just posting his little news tidbit once a month then back to his merry little world. For the bloggers on here, this site is bigger than then internet it seems but in Wallys world it could be just bookmark of 400 bookmarks he has in IE.
WarHippy1%MFFM said...
If you don't have the courage to post your name, you're just a chicken shit lame devils-advocate. Lu-Cifer the REAL MONGOL is my Brother, and my closest friend, and if he needs me I'll be fighting and dying along side him. And if you ever called yourself a MONGOL, which I doubt, then you've most likely heard of me, WarHippy, Phoenix Chapter, MONGOLS MC. You wanna talk shit about MONGOLS don't ride alone? Don't have a motorcycle? Are all a bunch of RUBS?Somebody was asking about anybody who spent time with LOS AVES. My best friends name was Ralph Munharrez(sp). When I was around, his uncle Bennie was the boss, and I forget the name of his 2nd but they used to get drunk and fight each other all over the barrio The only other name I remember clearly is Chinese Robert. And Ralphs beautiful little sister. Ralphs step-father was a paddy, he owned Tony's Transmission Shop 1 block off the corner of Verdugo Road and Colorado St in Glendale. They lived on Division about a mile up from either Verdugo or Cypress, and it was back in the late sixties, and right around the time I stole my brothers 45 auto, and went knockin on the door of some south american wanna-be gangster, and when he opened the door, I put the gun to his head and backed him clear thru his apartment, and up onto his bed, up against the wall, and he shit his pants and started crying. I was 15. I didn't join this club because I wanted to hide behind the patch, I wanted to belong to something and not be alone anymore. It didn't work out that way, I've been more alone in the past years than I ever have in my life, just me and my daughter. But, we've survived here, in the new HA capital of the world, not because I want to die or because I want my daughter to see me gunned down in front of her. When I put my patch on for the first time, I put it on for life and nobody is gonna run me off. I've stayed awake EVERY nite since Laughlin, because if they want a piece of me, I'm gonna show em what MONGOL PRIDE means, all the way to the box!! I've had to teach my little girl how to survive if anything happens, and kids shouldn't have to think about those things while they go to sleep at nite. If you WERE ever a member, then, most likely you were one of the Brothers who reassured my chapter that the club wouldn't just leave us with our asses hanging in tyhe wind here. Were you ever concerned enough to call me, and see if I was even still alive? F**K NO!! Lu-Cifer came and lived with me for 6 months. Thats what Brothers do for Brothers, not hide behind a monitor pissing amd moaning like some old BITCH, afraid to post his/her name because all you are is a big bag of wind, and I'd bet if you ever was in the joint, you were a catcher, right? You make me sick at my stomache, if you were a Brother at one time, the club is stronger now, just because you're not part of it anymore. And, I'll probably get in trouble for posting my club name, but at least I can say, "I'm WarHippy1% and I'm a MONGOL" HOOOAH!!!!
PS: Right or wrong, DOC is my PREZ, and as long as thats true, if you ever face him one-on-one, you better pray I'm not there because if you fight one of us, you fight ALL of us. Later LOSER!!
^What was that all about?
Estoy muy confondido, que paso con la gente que simpre anda diciendo que son muy chingones?
Orita es el timepo para chingar a los mayates, acavan de matar al morro en Venice paro nada se a hecho por que?
Si dicien que el sur es muy chingone y la gente del varrio muy deaqueyas,
Chale son puros putos!
Domas asen lo que les dicen que acesr sus mafiosos y es todo.
Nada pa la Raza.
Bola de putos.
What was that all about?
Close as I can tell it's a Mongol who is havin some tension over whatever karma came and shit in his lap. the guy has a child. His priorities are maladjusted . he might do well to cut his losses and disappear w/his child into another place and time... Fear sucks.It'll give you a serious crick in your neck.GJ
mongols are bunch of drugies!and they are scary!x3
What's a paranoid Mongol got to do with the smog in LA?
If you south siders think i am paranoid you have another thing coming i am just getting ready for anything you want to do.Fuck socal wetbacks.
WarHippy1%mffm
O Yeah we gonna thump ya bigtime mongolian.. we are siamese if you please sen0r mongoloid. we be descending on your threshold like so much red tide - stinkin up the area..the mighty big red 81.. now take what you love and leave the rest - but you should never have taken the velly best..your friend Ignacio from Dos Palos/Firebaugh..
WarHippy1%MFFM,
Look at your computer time. Is it correct?
When I was A young kid in 1962 in the SFV, Calif. I remember hearing enough of the Hells Angels and the Satan Slaves. I can't precisely remember what was said, aside from the fact that they were "rowdy" and "thumpers" and _I THINK_ I recall hearing they were arch rivals and had continual scraps??
Eventually the Slaves became the charter San Fernando Valley Hells Angels chapter. Anyone can add to this thread?
rEALity!
Mr. Professional Latino....
Bitch, I'm a professional too...
The major difference is that you dont know shit of racial demographics. It seems that you have no personal experience of growing up in a real ghetto. Why dont you come over to Compton and South Central and see who is in the welfare lines then compare it to those pisas/Mexicanos that have a 9 to 5 J.O.B. Get some fucking numbers before you talk out of your puny asshole brain.
I would love to kick the fuck out of a dumb motherfucker like you......
Typical mama-boy spoil Orange County bitch that attempts to speak perfect english and acts like your shit dont sink....
Your the motherfucker that stands in a market-line and acts like a upperclass white racist bigot. A fucking "sell out" that hangs out in Huntington Beach trying to surf and tells everyone your parents are from Madrid, Spain.......
I know your type, I've chined-checked pendejos like you before.
Your the type that looks down and ignores a dark skin non-english speaking Mexicano that is looking for a little bit of help with interpretability. The motherfucker who was ashamed that your dad wore Jalisco sandals shoes made of tires and wore that big ass Zacatecas Belt buckle. You know nothing of suffering and the reality of what life should be lived for. Someone needs to hit you over the head with a 2x4 and instill some core values, principles, and ethics.
On the LA RIots, bitch, you didnt see your local Clarks Market get burnt down......in front of your eyes, i did.
If you grew up with the anger, the killings, and experiences I got, maybe you would be preivilege to stand next to me and understand the self-conscious anger with watching uneducated assholes (black/brown) burn down your own community....whether its a fucked up one or not ...its your neighborhood and home. If your really a professional and have the cash, you would know the fucking feeling of returning home from Europe on an airplane seat and seeing out of the that little ass window watching the LA skyscrapers.....saying to your self, "fuck, it feels good to be home."
Ps bitch, I graduated from from the UCs systems and have published anthologies. My brother is a top notch professor at USC and a top level security US scientist. An addtional brother is a college graduated and so on and so on...
so you being a so called professional dont mean a drop of monkey shit....
If you talk that shit around us, my whole tribe will take turns kicking your ass, including my Jefita, even my dog will get a bite in............... professional or not.
:)
take that bitch
anonymous said,
so you being a so called professional don't mean a drop of monkey shit...
If you talk that shit around us, my whole tribe will take turns kicking your ass, including my Jefita, even my dog will get a bite in..............
and we will do it in front of your family you pencil necked geek. I will pull your lower lip over your head like a cabbage leaf - cabeza de mocajete.
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hey mongo lango fuck you and your bike hey dude why you guys ran like scary bitches last sunday at comerce casino? man that was funy ! and you talk shit about south siders ! you should be ashame of your club! bunch of low life bitches! and we smash on your ass mongolian bitch! so stop talking ! and go back to comerce casino! you pepole know who we are !
Ok this site gone to crap ! only mr S and some other pepole write good stuff! and welcome back big bety you always mad at pepole! go to anger managment. but most of you dumb fucks just write shit! and oc fucker shut your bitch ass up you sound like a niger! and mongols are white trash punks !
Your a stupid fuck.
"Mongols are white trash punks"
Where are you from? I don't know any white Mongols.They're all Chicano dumb ass.And Mrs.S has got to be the stupidest mother fucker on this blog!You must be him hiding under Anonymous. OC is a regular contributer to this site .Are you? If you don't agree with him than post some facts , don't resort to name calling That shit is weak minded.
Ok just go to mongols web site and you see plenty white trash!And iam sorry but iam not ms S! And not even mr S ! So slow your role fella! And i see OC got frends! But he sounds dumb! And you ^.fuck you ! And your mongols frends!
1500th comment!
Mr.Anonymous
You must be really interested in the Mongols if your surfing their web site.You must be a jelouse prospect that didn't get accepted.
Anonymous
Please direct me to the web site you are speaking of.I looked at the Mongol's Web site and seen nothing but Chicanos.Maybe the White Boys where taking the pictures.
Alex said...
1500th comment!
Thanks Alex. It's going to get up into the 90's here in LA, how is NYC temperature wise?
:^)
click on this link to see the snorte in action, some are kind of dark:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW-spG1MKfw&search=norte%2014
and anoe the sur version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=457bbL1EjXo&search=spanky%20locod
OC HALD BREED WHERE DID YOU GROW UP AND WHO DID YOU RUN WITH.
WHO DID YOU KNOW FROM SUICIDALS
i used to run with them suicidal crips down in long beach they hung wit sos, sometimes we would crip down to fenders and trip on them punkers.
Anonymous said...
"And there it is there. You admit it. What a loser."
10:24 PM
How is someone a loser for not wanting to be White? When you watch the news and you see some fat assed White guy complaining about gas prices, while the SUV he's pumping his 4 dollar a gallon gas into has a Bush/Cheney bumper sticker and a yellow ribbon on the back window, are you proud?
It's White people in America who DON'T question their identity and their culture that are the losers, and you can throw in Chinese wannabe Whites to boot. You're living proof of that.
wheres that coming from who was talking about whites
thats funny venice had blacks, oc hated blacks, and long beach where crips
GAVA JOE, DON, TJJ, SAN JO, SOME ONE PUT SOMETHING GOOD ON, I WILL EVEN TAKE SOME COMMENTS FROM LIL TRUKOS.
wally i just put you in the hat.....
yeah i use to hang at fenders and watched suicidals fuck up lmp peni south bay and anyone else who showed up.most of the time they could even make it in the door before suicidals where all over them.
Wallace was last seen hauling ass thru the Mojave. Seems he agreed to be "imbedded" with a coyote and his smuggling operation. things went awry, the Minutemen got wind of the caper, and a gava was spotted coattails in the wind high-tailing it over some dunes. Alleged illegals arrested at the scene mentioned that the "gava was real nervous and kept saying "in the hat" in broken Spanglish.. Pobercito! I hope he has water and trail mix would be nice.. Hurry Back Wally! We all appreciate your zeal.. GJ
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GAVA JOE, DON, TJJ, SAN JO, SOME ONE PUT SOMETHING GOOD ON...
Found this short vignette on the net.
Pachuco Story by
Alex Rodriguez
I, Roberto Gomez, was a pachuco. I bet the first thing you thought was big, violent, Mexican. All I can really say is that you thought wrong. I am 71 right now. I was born in 1926 and I was 16 in 1942. I grew up in the age of pachucos. I'm going to start my story when I was accepted into my so called "other familia."
The year, as I said, was 1942. I was hanging around the corner store when I saw one of my best carnales. Extending my hand he shook it as a gesture of respect, pride, love, and unity of our friendship. Jimmy and I have been friends since 1-C. We've been through everything together. I was stunned at the threads he was wearing. He had on a black suit with pin stripes and a chain that started at his hip and ended at his shin.
"Where did you get those clothes, carnal?" I asked.
"I got them downtown, ese."
He said it so nonchalantly that it seemed as if it were no big deal to be the best dressed in all of Barrio Hollywood. I remember I was about to say something else but that's when two other vatos walked out of the store like they owned the place. They were dressed the same as Jimmy. One of them asked Jimmy who I was. I remember the voice was that of a ruler or a leader. It had a distinct spark that made you listen to him.
Jimmy said, "This is my carnal, Roberto Gomez."
I nodded my head in his direction. He looked me up and down. Finally he spoke, "Do you like the way I'm dressed, ese?"
"Simon."
"Well, you want to be one of our carnales? You have to be down with our cliqua, but you can't be afraid to throw your fists up when you have to."
"Don't worry, ese." I guess he could read my mind because, you see, I wasn't much of a fighter -- I was more of a ladies' man. "We hardly ever fight," the leader said. "You think I want to get this suit dirty? Chale! I want to look good for the rucas."
"Simon," I said with a slight chuckle.
Jimmy spoke up, "Hey, ese, meet us at the river at five o'clock, we'll fill you in on what's going on in the barrio."
As they walked away from me I saw that the way they were dressed didn't fit with their environment-the unpaved streets, the cars spilling oil on the people's front yards. They seemed like they belonged in the real Hollywood, the one in California. I couldn't wait to meet them at the river. I went home and waited till five.
I remember walking out of the house at about 4:45. Walking through one of the alleys I saw Mrs. Lopez tending to her chiltepin plants and Mr. Romero working on his corn crop. Reaching the river I looked around and saw no one. Then I looked into the river and saw Jimmy and the two other vatos from the store standing around and looking dignified. They spotted me and with a gesture of Jimmy's hand, waved me down to the river bed. The leader's name was Beto, and his carnal was Frankie, a good fighter who was Beto's right hand man. Then I saw that they had an extra suit. "Here you go holmes." I took the suit with pride. I stripped down and put it on. It fit perfectly.
Beto said: "Now you are a true carnal."
Everybody shook my hand to welcome me into the cliqua. I remember looking at everyone and I remember them pointing toward the top of the river.
"Here comes the other Hollywood cliqua," Frankie said, disgusted. The five of them walked up to us and we all stood there staring at each other. Finally the one who seemed to be the leader spoke up, "Who's the chavala that joined the fake Hollywood cliqua?"
"Roberto Gomez, ese, and I'm not no chavala, punk."
"We'll see if you're not a chavala." He motioned to one of the guys behind him. "Paco, show this punk how we do it in Hollywood."
He nodded to me, and I nodded back. I took off my suit and handed it to Jimmy. "Watch out," he said. "This punk can fight."
We danced around each other while everyone looked on. "Let's go, chavala, make your move." Believe me, he made his move. He threw a straight right punch that landed on my nose. I shook it off but I felt something pouring down my mouth and my neck. Blood. He busted my nose. Filled with all the rage and anger that had been bottled up inside from all the discrimination against my Chicano people, I dove toward him, landing punches on his temple, nose, jaw, and neck. By the time Beto and Frankie pulled me off of Paco, he was bleeding from most of the places I had hit. Everyone from my cliqua shook my hands and were proud of me.
Now I am old and too tired to be running around in the barrio fighting other guys for recognition and respect. Jimmy moved to Northern California to get away from all the violence there is today; he grew old with five children running around the house. Beto was diagnosed with cancer at the age of 35, he died at the age of 38. Frankie changed his ways and became a college professor in Chicano history; last I heard he was working at Georgetown. I'm trying to take it day by day, trying to wake up alive in my old home. Trying to keep the spirit within my old body. As I look around at all the teenagers running around killing each other and using drugs, I see that all the cliqas have lost their meaning -- the meanings of unity, pride, love, and companionship.
Gang Life In Los Angeles: The East Side Story
Text and Photographs by Joseph Rodriguez
I see Los Angeles as a post-modern Wild West where everyone has a gun and they use it. It is like an uncontrolled and slightly scary place, a land of dreams and beauty, playing by its own rules.
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Chivo, an East Los Angeles gang member, teaches his daughter how to hold a 32-caliber pistol. Her mother, Yvonne, looks on.
For the last year, I’ve photographed gang life in East Los Angeles. My aim is to get to the core of violence in America, not just the physical violence, but the quiet violence of letting families fall apart, the violence of unemployment, the violence of our educational system and the violence of segregation and isolation.
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Chivo, who belongs to an east Los Angeles gang, counts his money the morning after a car-jacking. He stripped the car and sold the parts.
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Chivo plays with his son, Joshua, 2, as his sister looks on.
La Vida Loca, or the crazy life, is what they call the barrio gang experience. This lifestyle originated with the Mexican Pachuco gangs of the 1930s and 1940s. They developed their own style and language in the barrios of America. It was later recreated with the Cholos, or low life, a word appropriated by Chicano barrio youth to describe the style of local gangs.
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Chivo offers cocaine to a neighborhood girl.
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Chivo sits at the breakfast table with his mother (right) telling him he better get a job. His sister and friend, Boxer look on. His mother, a bus driver, then left for work.
The lifestyle became the main model and influence for outlaw bikers of the 1950s and 1960s, the L.A. punk/rock scene in the 1970s and 1980s, and the Crips and Bloods of the 1980s and 1990s. As Leon Bing commented in the book, “Do or Die,” (HarperCollins 1991), “It was the cholo homeboy who first walked the walk and talked the talk. It was the Mexican American Pachuco who initiated the emblematic tattoos, the signing with hands, the writing legends on the wall.”
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Gang family - a little boy withg his father in the background.
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Steve helps another addict shoot heroin in the Evergreen Cemetery in Los Angeles.
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"Scooby," a member of the Evergreen gang, sits in the shade as his nephews play. "Scooby" is unemployed.
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Chivo cuts the lawn in his Boyle Heights home. His mother promised to throw him out of the house if he wasn't finished before she came home from work.
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Chivo takes a break from cutting the lawn. He said he has never accepted the fact that his father, a member of the Mexican mafia, died four years ago. "I think if he were alive I might not have been a gang member."
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Seconds after a drive-by shooting in East Los Angeles, gang members still are not aware one of them has been hit by an automatic weapon and lies bleeding on the sidewalk.
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In a bar in Tijuana, Mexico, Chivo plays with a transvestite.
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Minutes later, gang members help get a member to the hospital. He was shot five times with an automatic weapon and survived. The week of the shooting was supposed to be the start of a gang truce among many Latino gangs in East Los Angeles.
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Steve and his ex-wife, Chris shoot up heroin in Boyle Heights. Steve and his family often visit his rich aunt in Altadena, a middle-class black neighborhood. "She used to pick me up and take me out there to get me away from the drugs and help me find work. I got a job working for the L.A. Times in the pressroom. I held that job for a few years until I got fired, because of drugs. We like coming to her home, it's the real American Dream.
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The toddler of a gang family looks on. His brother is a member of a gang in Boyle Heights.
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Steve and his ex-wife were both members of the Evergreen Dukes in the 1960s and the 1970s.
Although there has been a gang truce with several of the Crips and Bloods gangs in South Central and Watts districts in Los Angeles since the riots of 1992, on the other side of town in East Los Angeles the gang wars still continue. East L.A. has long been a neglected neighborhood, with a predominantly Mexican population. It has one of the nation’s highest school drop-out rates and youth unemployment hovers at 75 percent. Teenage pregnancy is at an all-time high in this community.
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Steve, 39, standing, and Albert, 41, who both live in their trucks, relax after they have taken their morning dose of heroin. Albert raises money for his drug habit by removing trash in his truck. Steve's grandparents came to East Los Angeles from Mississippi in 1933 "looking for the American dream." They found it. My grandfather worked for the California Gas Company for 35 years and was able to buy two houses in East L.A." Steve, a heroin addict, bought a new truck with the money willed to him by his grandmother. "The cops stop me all the time and ask me how I got that truck, they think I stole it." He uses the truck to support his habit by moving furniture, trash and serving as a taxi service to some drug dealers and their families. "Most of my cousins are successful, they have their houses and their jobs. I am the only one who messed up."
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A young girl in Boyle Heights play wedding.
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Albert and Steve remove grass from Albert's truck. Steve was a member of the first generation of the Evergreen gang, which was named the Evergreen Dukes. Both men have sons in the Evergreen gang. Albert grew up in Reynosa, a Mecian border town. "Most of my childhood I spent with my father in his truck." A roofer by trade, Albert came to Los Angeles as a teenager. He has had four children with Patsy, including Mark, 12, a gang member. When Mark was 5, Patsy one tried to put their son in the oven when she was smoking PCP and "became out of control." Albert has been hooked on heroin for a decade and long for Patsy to give up PCP. "I would go back to her just to have a family again."
There is an aspect of suicide among many of these gang kids. They are between 10 and 21 years old and their options have been cut off: no education, no work, no opportunities for advancement. They stand on street corns and parks, flashing gang signs, inviting bullets. It’s either la torcida (prison) or death. And if they murder, the victims usually are the ones who look like the, the ones closest to who they are---the mirror reflections. They murder and they’re killing themselves, over and over.
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Micke and Steve hang out in the Evergreen cemetery afterthey have shot up heroin. Steve is homeless, by his own choice. In the morning, he takes his daughter and nephews to school, they buy his heroin. It's a sticky brown paste sold in colorful balloons. The men have been friends since childhood. In East L.A. your friends as grown-ups usually are the same ones you had as a child.
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A young mother walks the streets of Brooklyn Avenue in Boyle Heights.
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A gun salesman in East Los Angeles works out of his car showroom. His selection ranges from a 22 caliber pistol to an AK-47 assault rifle. One gang member said gun purchases are as easy as buying mild at a grocery store. This .380 automatic pistol is fresh from a box stamped United States of America Gun Company. Sale price: $150.
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Unemployed youths in East Los Angeles with nothing to do writeon the walls of their housing project. These boys are not gang members, but belong to a tagger crew (graffiti writers).
http://www.aliciapatterson.org/APF1602/Rodriguez/Rodriguez.html
I think they put too much salsa in the tacos on this story....
1. - According to the old timers, at that age, you wont allowed to hang out with the older vatos....
2. - Some of the words that guy uses were not even invented or used.
3. - There was no such thing as a cliqua....in those days... only something called "la Polomia" (pigeons hanging out)
4. - Being Pachuco style, was not being a gang.
I have some respect for Rodriguez and his stories of growing up in Watts, Lynwood, and other ghetto neigborhoods....but i think this old vato is pulling his left nut hairs.
Back in the days and growing up, if my little carnal came around the homies.....I would give that pendejo the biggest ass kicking....
This old rule...I heard was strictly enforced to the extreme in the early years of the Pachuco.
THey get all that shit from the Movies....
"don't you try to pachuco me, ese!!!"
oh..shit, wait....i have to wrong Rodriguez....
I have Respect for Luis Rodriguez....the vato that wrote "Concrete River"..
I dont know who in the fuck is ALex Rodriguez....and I care less....
I heard that Transvesti sucked that vatos dick in Tijuana....
that's playing with an issued GrEEN Ball...!
If that vato was born in 1926, i'm suprise his family survived the Depression...and his family didn't go back to Mexico ...on the free trains....
plus, that vato is too young to be a Pachuco. He missed that shit by like 10 years.
STOP
POSTING
BULLSHIT!
FUCK RODRIGUEZ!
AND FUCK
JELLYBEENS!
FUCK ELA MONGOLS
FUCK WALLY
FUCK WHITTIER MONGOLS
FUCK (DOUBLE FUCK) MONTEBELLO MONGOLS
FUCK ALL MONGOLS
I DECLARE A GREEN LIGHT ON ALL MONGOLS AND BEST WISHES TO THE VATOS THAT TAKE THEIR MOTO FROM THEM
VERDE ON ALL MONGOLS ALL DAY
Does anyone know if varrios in ventura county pay taxes to the eme?
Gangster's Paradise Lost
~ By DENNIS ROMERO ~
“The officers were outmatched by the gunmen, who were firing a Ruger mini-14 assault rifle and a semiautomatic attack weapon...”
Losing the mural, it seems, was a sign of the times. In 2002, when the city renovated the recreation center at Stoner Park in West L.A., the last remnants of the Westside’s Latino gang culture were told that the building’s big Chicano-era mural would be temporarily removed to accommodate construction, but then returned. The big tableaux from the side of the building was an homage to the Mexican flavor of the neighborhood, and a point of homeboy pride.
But when Mayor James K. Hahn presided over ribbon-cutting ceremonies celebrating the completed makeover last summer, the mural was absent, and the homies still haven’t seen it. (A council district field deputy who keeps his eye on parks in the area said he has no idea what happened to the artwork.) Today, a few survivors of the Sotel 13 gang, which has claimed the park since the early 1950s, still congregate at the rec center each weekday at 3 p.m. – like clockwork. (“You can set your watch by it,” says one cop.) But they’re joined by yuppies walking little designer dogs and soccer moms tossing balls at their daughters’ feet. Their barrio is clearly no more.
The story is the same across the Westside: The vida loca in neighborhoods such as West L.A.’s Sawtelle district, Venice’s Oakwood area, and the Culver City-adjacent Del Rey barrio has turned into la dolce vita for high-income residents who are pushing westward. Thouhg LAPD still reports more than 50,000 gang members in the city, they have been shoved east by gentrification. For the Latino and black locals who called the Westside home for decades, dwindling gang membership is the inevitable result. Many neighbors and cops, of course, say good riddance (especially with gang crimes in West L.A. down 45 percent so far compared to last year). But some veteranos lament the end of an era, a time when taco-slangin’ lunch trucks were always around the corner and eses cast authoritative shadows on the street.
“It’s kind of sad in a way,” says Luis J. Rodriguez, author of the autobiographical Always Running: LA Vida Loca – Gang Days in L.A. “Chicanos have contributed a lot to these neighborhoods. For the most part, white people with money, they love their history, and they make sure everyone knows about it. But Chicanos don’t have the same resources to put that history down.”
Diligent policing and injunctions against gangs in Venice and Del Rey have had an impact, sending many older, hardcore members to prison for decades at a time. But the most often cited reason for the demise of gangs west of the 405 is gentrification. Housing prices in the Sawtelle neighborhood and in Venice start in the low $500,000 range and inch up from there. Rent for a one-bedroom apartment in those neighborhoods and in Del Rey starts at about $1,000 per month. While public housing remains an option (Venice and Del Rey are both home to federally funded apartment buildings), a 1997 U.S. Housing and Urban Development regulation pushed out many gang members living in such units. The “one-strike” rule stated that if any guest under a public housing beneficiary’s control were to “engage in or facilitate criminal activity … within a three-block radius of the property” the resident would be evicted immediately. That put out many gang families, despite a successful ACLU challenge that softened the rule the next year.
“The enemy of any gang on the Westside is the loss of affordable housing, greedy landlords, abusive police practices, and lack of city support for people of color,” says Oscar De La Torre, founder of the Pico Youth and Family Center, an activities and counseling center for at-risk youth in Santa Monica. “The gang members are fighting the wrong fight, killing each other and pushing themselves out of the Westside.”
Flight to Inglewood
In Del Rey, a Los Angeles city barrio east of Marina del Rey and surrounded on its other sides by Culver City, the local Culver City Boyz are rarely seen at the Mar Vista Gardens public housing project they used to call home. “Cops kicked everybody out,” says Pedro Valenciana, a 27-year-old former Culver City member who now counsels dropouts at the Mar Vista Family Center. “They were kicking out whole families.”
The Culver City Boyz are thought to be the largest and most active of the Westside gangs, often implicated in violent capers, including the 1998 murder of Los Angeles police officer Brian Brown, who, along with his partner, had confronted two suspects after a fatal drive-by in Culver City. “The officers were outmatched by the gunmen, who were firing a Ruger mini-14 assault rifle and a semiautomatic attack weapon,” Capt. Gary Williams said at the time. (One suspect was fatally wounded by officers at nearby Fox Hills Mall. Another man was shot by police near Los Angeles International Airport after a pursuit. He lived.) The mall, in fact, is a haven for the Culver City Boyz and other gangsters, and early last summer, drive-by suspects in a U-Haul led police on a pursuit from Venice to the shopping center, only to be caught.
Twenty-one-year-old Greg Martin Jr. has seen the changes on Slauson Avenue, Del Rey’s main thoroughfare. As a teen-ager, he came close to joining the gang, but the Mar Vista Family Center and its high school diploma program for dropouts helped him focus on attending Santa Monica College. “The gang has shrunk dramatically,” he says. “My grandmother lived down here for 30 years. I’ve been on this street all my life. Twenty of them lived on the street when I was 12. Now, I might see one once in a blue moon.”
For those growing up in the neighborhood, says Valenciana, joining the gang was a rite of passage. “You look outside your door, you see what’s going on, and you want to be part of that,” he says. “Before you were a gang member, you were friends.”
But six years ago, the West Los Angeles College student moved to Inglewood – which is now home to many displaced Westside gang members. “Housing around here is so expensive,” Valenciana says. “People are starting to overcrowd these apartments.
“Gangs isn’t the problem around here no more,” he continues as he surveys the dense Slauson Avenue corridor. “It’s all these outsiders trying to buy everything in sight. Look at Playa Vista. Everything is going up, but people don’t have a say. You have people coming in from other areas, but what happens to all the neighborhood people? It’s a nice neighborhood, but in another eight to ten years, you won’t see it like this no more.”
Venice for Life
In Venice, the transformation is even more obvious. Homes are fetching sometimes more than $1 million, and homies are being displaced every day. The area is claimed by Venice 13 and the Shoreline Crips, which coexist peacefully under a truce. Another gang, the Venice White Boys, died off decades ago.
“I know that the gangs are shrinking,” says a longtime Venice real-estate agent. “The property values have gone up, and people from New York are moving into Venice because it’s affordable for them. I’ve been listing properties for between $580,000 and $600,000 average, where they used be worth $250,000 ten years ago.”
Alejandro Alonso, a Ph.D. candidate at the University of Southern California’s Geography Department, is working on a paper about what he believes is a correlation between the city’s gang injunctions and areas where property values are increasing. In Del Rey, an injunction – which generally bars members from congregating, carrying spray paint, or hanging out after 10 p.m. – covers the Culver City Boyz. A favored crime-fighting tool of Hahn while he served as city attorney, injunctions cover the Mexican-American Venice 13 gang as well as the African-American Shoreline Crips in Venice.
“Venice is one of the most gentrified gang areas I’ve ever seen,” Alonso says. “The reason I believe injunctions are imposed is because of the property values. All the injunctions are either next to prime real estate or in prime industry areas.”
Eighteen-year-old Julio Ruiz sits on the steps outside an apartment building in Venice’s Oakwood area on a recent Saturday afternoon, pecking his girlfriend on the cheek. He lives with his mom and three siblings in a one-bedroom, $710-per-month apartment. He says the landlord could fetch at least $1,000 for the place and would be glad to see his family leave. But it’s a good price, based on their move-in rent of seven years ago. “They’re trying to kick us out,” says the Venice 13 member. “All my homies be moving to Inglewood.”
Ruiz, who’s known on the street as “Indio” because of his dark, Indian-esque skin, says he recently went to prison for “dope.” He says police have been storming his house at 5 a.m. to conduct probation checks. He thinks this is part of a larger attempt to get the gang to leave for good. He’s not leaving anytime soon, and he has plenty of animosity for the mostly white, professional newcomers in his neighborhood. “They come out here like Venice gang is nothing,” he says, “like we ain’t shit no more.”
He points at a large, gleaming property across the street: “That used to be a black church. Now they made it into a white house.”
A few blocks south, Rick Mejia lives in the four-bedroom, two-bath Venice home his family purchased in 1963 for $17,500. These days, real-estate agents routinely knock on his door on weekend afternoons, saying, “You have a buyer waiting right now.” Their offer: $800,000. “They also send letters making offers,” says the 43-year-old. “We just don’t want to leave.”
Mejia, who now has four children of his own, is a former Venice 13 member who started Venice Barrios Unidos in 1994 to help his homies leave the vida loca and find strength and respect in education, jobs and family. “It’s by god’s grace I’m not dead,” he says. “All I can do is show his spirit of kindness. We should be working together to make this world a better place.”
He remembers the old times when there were 100 core “V-13s” and at least half of those would congregate on weekends at nearby Penmar Park. (The “13” signifies a gang’s “sureño,” or Southern California, roots.) All the neighbors, Mejia says, were friends. “There were more of us together, but it was mainly all the families that had all these kids, nephews, nieces, quincineras, weddings,” he says. “We fixed our cars up together. Everything we did was a community thing. Going to Penmar and having weekend rides. Always the black and brown together. That’s what’s missing now, the togetherness.”
Mejia, however, spent much of the ’80s in prison, and after the birth of his son in 1980, he had plenty of time to sit and think about the future. “My children changed my life,” he says. “You can’t do this no more. There was a lot of death, too, and it came from mainly Venice and Culver City.”
Santa Monica’s Last Ghetto
The Santa Monica 13 gang has its rivalries as well. In the late ’90s, it was the target of the Culver City Boyz. On October 27, 1998, four people were shot, two of them fatally, at a street clothing store called Westside on Lincoln Boulevard in Santa Monica. The dead included two men from Northern California who had merely been visiting the store’s owner, their cousin. Although the suspects are still at large, suspicion centered around the Culver City set.
“I seen my cousin murdered right in front of me,” the store’s owner, who was also hit by the gunfire, said recently. He said the police have since pegged him as a Santa Monica gang member, although he says he’s not. “They labeled my family a gang family,” he says. “The police took pictures of me that are in their gang files.”
However, the number of active gang members is way down in Santa Monica’s last remaining ghetto, the strip of “Pico Neighborhood” that runs between Pico Boulevard and the Santa Monica Freeway (I-10), between Lincoln Boulevard and the West Los Angeles border. The Santa Monica Lil Locos and the African-American Graveyard Crips also claim the area, but experts say there are less than 25 active gang members in Santa Monica. Yet another Santa Monica set, the 11th Street Chavos, became extinct by the ’80s. The city’s active gang membership “is significantly less, if not half, of what it was 10 years ago,” says Santa Monica Police Lt. Pasqual J. Guido, who credits police and community intervention.
Although some of the Westside gangs have survived by recruiting new immigrants from the Mexican state of Oaxaca, newcomers who seem to favor settling on the Westside, it hasn’t been enough to overcome gentrification.
“These are some of the last black and brown communities in Southern California so close to the ocean,” laments De La Torre of the Pico Youth and Family Center. “People are being gentrified out. They’re moving to Inglewood.
“Venice and Culver City were the real rivals,” he continues. “Santa Monica and Sotel were real rivals. Those were some of the last gang wars you’re going to see. It’s dropped off tremendously.”
Sotel O.G.
The Los Angeles Police Department’s West L.A. Division, home to the lowest crime rate in the city, mainly keeps its eye on two gangs: the Playboy Gangsta Crips, claiming turf along La Cienega Boulevard less than one mile south of tony Beverly Hills, and the Sotel gang, which is named for Sawtelle Boulevard and the adjacent neighborhood.
The Playboys have been around for at least 30 years, but their numbers started dwindling after the city hit the gang with an injunction in 1987. At the time, the gang had 200 members. Today the set, which roams mainly between La Cienega and Robertson boulevards and Pico Boulevard and Cadillac Avenue, has about 20 active members, according to police.
“Originally, it was a break-dancing crew,” says LAPD gang officer E. Saidenberg. “As crack cocaine became more prominent in the area, they saw the money-making potential and evolved into a criminal gang lifestyle. It caused them to become more violent.”
Saidenberg says the injunction and police vigilance – cops and community-service workers both claim some credit for the cleanup – have had a greater effect than rising rents. “Their income is not minimum wage,” he says. “They’re making their income off robbing others, sales of narcotics and weapons, and things like that. Some of them make a lot more than you or I.
“Many have gone to prison,” he adds. “Others have been paroled or moved out of the area or wised up and moved on and started to raise family.”
There are a few other smaller gangs on the Westside’s fringes, sets like Helms Street, Rancho Park, and Criminals for Life, that are but minor troublemakers. And in West L.A. proper, the Sotel 13 gang has a half-dozen core members these days, an expert says, although police contend there are about 25 active members and 225 registered members in the five-year-tracking “Cal Gang” state database.
“The Westside being a predominantly white area, they even told me through interviews that ‘this is not like South Central, where we blend in,’” says gang Officer Tony Umansky, whose job it is to keep a close eye on Sotel. “‘We stick out like a sore thumb,’” he quotes them as saying.
Police say that at least one Sotel O.G. (original gangster) in his 30s who has moved to the San Fernando Valley is recruiting at nearby University High School and even Webster Elementary School in an attempt to keep the gang alive. The result is a handful of pee-wees who stroll Stoner park in crisp, white T-shirts.
Their barrio – Sotel claims turf from the San Diego (405) Freeway to the Santa Monica border and from the Santa Monica (10) Freeway to Wilshire Boulevard – has changed into a yuppie mecca with plenty of high-end sushi bars and grocery stores. Neighbors and shoppers are often surprised to hear that the area even has a gang, but you can still see a little piece of the ’hood in Sotel’s relentless tagging. The gangsters hit the Stoner Park bathrooms and walls with “Sotel X3.” Such graffiti is also found along Pico near the Santa Monica boundary, home to arch-rivals Santa Monica 13.
The shrinking Sotel set, some authorities believe, still has some criminal life left in it. In the summer of 2002, a triple homicide outside a Brentwood-adjacent Koo Koo Roo restaurant at Wilshire Boulevard and Bundy Drive shocked the neighborhood. According to police, four of the restaurant’s employees were waiting for a bus shortly before 11 p.m. on August 27, when someone walked up and opened fire, killing three of the four: Mario Cruz, 24, Avelinao Cruz, 23, and Jorge Rodriguez, 22. The West L.A. residents “were well known in the Sawtelle area as ex-18th Streeters,” says Umansky, referring to perhaps the world’s largest gang, 18th Street, which is spread throughout the region but calls the Pico-Union district near downtown ground zero.
He says one of the victims of the triple homicide had a brother who was fatally wounded following a dispute with a Soteler at Barry and Ohio avenues more than a year and a half ago. Since then, he said, the Koo Koo Roo trio stopped strolling while drunk and disrespectful through Sotel turf and started avoiding the area on their way home from work each night. But on that summer evening, even an attempt to catch a bus west to Santa Monica didn’t save the three. The shooter came looking for them on the edge of Brentwood.
“These guys would actually go out of their way to go to Santa Monica to avoid the Sotel area to and from work,” Umansky says. “They would even try to hitch rides. They were obviously in fear and knew that Sotels didn’t like them.”
The crime, however, remains unsolved, and there are three fewer boys in the ’hood. The area’s geography makes some sense for gangland: The train tracks of the old Exposition right-of-way run along the south end. The homeless-magnet Veterans Administration Hospital anchors the north. Just south of Stoner Park, an industrial corridor, including a city trash-truck lot, runs along Olympic Boulevard all the way through to Santa Monica gang territory. But the area, which also includes Japanese-American residents with deep roots and Zen-inspired gardens, is irresistible to wealthier home-buyers.
“Back in the days, it was happening,” says a 19-year-old Sotel member Monster, kicking it at Stoner Park. “You used to see like 50 homies out here. There were all kinds of Mexicans around here. Now they’re building condos that are all expensive ’n’ shit.”
Monster looks back and points to where the Chicano mural once stood.
“I think it should be there – the community did that,” he says. “They said they were going to put it back. They should.”
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