Tuesday, March 06, 2007

A FEW WORDS ABOUT THE LA MEDIA.
Since I already had something in mind about this issue, I'll start off with a comment from one of our many anon. commenters. I wish you guys would invent some interesting handles so I can keep you straight in my head, but whatever.

"To Wally,You used to tell us how the L.A. times did not cover gang news or racial motivated shootings but lately it seems they are giving a lot of coverage to all these topics. I’m not sure if it is because Mayor V., Chief Bratton, and Rocky D. are all trying to make gangs high priority and profile."

The commenter goes on to link the latest Times pieces on crime and gangs. Obviously, it's not just me that's noticing an increase in crime and gang coverage. And it's not just the Times. It's all the media in LA. I still stand by what I said back when this blog started. There was precious little coverage of the subject. There were stories (like the racial killings, the Eme's vertical integration initiatives, neighborhood expansions and various beefs) that were totally below the radar. This was one of the reasons I started blogging. It was to publicize stories that were being ignored.

When the city was looking for a new police chief, Rick Caruso said that addressing the issue of gangs and crime should be the new cheif's first priority. Dead silence. When Chief Bratton was hired, he said in one of his early public announcements that his first priority was addressing the same issue. Some of our local papers derisively started calling him Bill "War on Gangs" Bratton. As if trying to reduce the body count was something bad.

Now those same papers are writing stories about the Mexican Mafia being the 400-lb. Gorilla in the room, greenlight lists, taxation, regulation, shot-callers and, of course, ethnic cleansing. Big turnaround in attitude.

What happened?

Several things, the most prominent being the Federal hate crime indictment of Bird, Lucky, Sneaky and Dreamer from Avenues 43. Regular readers will recall that prior to that indictment, this blog was the only source of information about the Wilson, Bowser and Prudhomme murders. And it was the only source on similar events in Pomona, the SF Valley, Compton, Watts, Long Beach etc. When I approached some of the local papers about these homicides, I was given a less than enthusiastic reception. They basically showed me the door. That's a long story that will eventually be told.

It's easy to ignore one guy. It's impossible to ignore a Federal indictment. The media was frankly overwhelmed by events. When a release from the US Attorney's Press Office hits an editor's desk, you can't pretend you don't know. And you suddenly have to start caring.

Honest to God true story. I was sitting with a Northeast Homicide cop one day soon after the Avenues indictment came out. This cop knew I'd been trying to sell the thing to the media for years. It was somebody from a local free paper wanting to know about the Avenues case. He chatted with the person for a few minutes and when he hung up he looked at me and said, "Where they f*** have they been for the last three years?" Good question and rich irony. I'd been in the caller's office a month earlier in a futile and what proved to be my last ditch effort to get that paper to run my piece.

The truth is, I wasn't alone in banging on doors and rattling media cages. The families of murder victims were doing the same and getting the same "Not interested" response. Tony Prudhomme's mother got herself knocked silly having various media doors slammed in her face.

Over the next week, this cop's phone started ringing and wouldn't stop. The LA Times, Newsweek, CNN, Fox News, CBS, BBC, the local free papers (natch), and various freelancers all wanted in on the Avenues case. Then in the last week of the Federal trial, a Hispanic football player was shot and killed defending his black teammate on Avenue 40.

By then of course, after the world learned that "Avenue 43 Kills for Thrills," the media had given itself permission to go ahead and write about the thing that could not be named. In rapid sequence we had the Connie Rice report, the spike in gang crimes, four Hispanics executed Sadr City style on Harvard by black shooters with AKs, Kaytlin Avila wantonly shot in the chest by a guy who went out of his way to come back and kill her, the cop conference with LE from south, way south and way, way south of the border and then there was Cheryl Green. And after that we got Najee Ali with the phony truce, Bob Mueller, a Task Force, Feinstein asking for $1 Billion for gang suppression/intervention, Rocky sort of wanting and not wanting a gang Czar, the Drew Street dope house slamdown, Shadow Cambero from 43 making it to the Ten Most Wanted list, Garcia extradited back to the US, LA Bridges under scrutiny, Weasel getting shot, Tony V. lobbying the AG for money and bodies and now the Guv and Rudy G. meeting to get something done. That's not the exact order, but you get the picture. This confluence of events resulted in what the commenter has accurately assessed as increased coverage of the subject. "Holy cow, Batman. We got a real problem."

Is all this coverage a good thing or hysteria? I say it's about time.

91 comments:

Anonymous said...

To Wally,

I guess that Pan Blanco aka White Bread posted the story about more gang news. Because that vato always posts lots of links when he puts something here.


White bread you know him, Don Culo’s and Gavo Juto’s new gay friend posted this link about that vato Mario Corona from Communities In Schools organization. The funny shit is that vato Mario Corona was on the web-site of Southern California Catholic Weekly as the poster boy “cholo to church”. I wonder how long the church will keep his story posted. It looks like a new story about Mario Corona, the date is new.

I feel sorry for Blinky Rodriguez of CIS cuz Blinky has been working very hard get kids out of la vida loca. I am praying to GOD right now that the juras do not find my 8-ball when I am driving. Shit I have been trying to do it legit for many years, but it is damn hard to teach an old perro new tricks. It does not surprise me that a homie like spider slipped up. Shit we all slip up Que no.

http://www.the-tidings.com/2007/030207/gangs.htm


Buena Suerte Blinky

trukos aka lil trukos said...

Well Damn I just watched a Brand new episode of msnbc, and it was on the southsiders in the ranch in LA, and what a tremendous effort and great results they got from segrating the chicanos from the blacks, they had inmates on there speaking on how the mayates are loud, dirty and outspoken. All information that has been covered here from the get! LA media has no clue if they do, they sure have a fucked up way of showing it. puro pedo. im out.

Anonymous said...

Wally, there's a reason why we come to this blog, cause you get the info out there before the mainstream media. Keep it coming and thanks for doing it.

Hopefully this blog will get back to more of what Wally is bringing to us from the streets as opposed to the current who's a better citizen we have to go on about with our "law abiding" right winger friends who have taken over the blog.

OC HALF BREED

Anonymous said...

OC Half Breed said....
"Wally, there's a reason why we come to this blog, cause you get the info out there before the mainstream media. Hopefully this blog will get back to more of what Wally is bringing to us from the streets"


Not to offend Wally, but Half Breed can you give me some examples of the info Wally is bringing to us from the "streets". Lately I mostly see references to news stories from other sources and then opinions about that story. I would like to also get that inside “street” news info, maybe I have been napping or something. I have been reading here for about nine months and I have yet to get any inside scoop on a news story.

I would like to know how many arrests have been made of 204th gang members that have not been already covered in the local news.

Or maybe the whole point of this latest post by Wally was to tell us how this gang news was not covered back when he started this blog.

Waiting for my Chismes de la Calle

Wally said...
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Wally said...

Dear Chismes de la Calle,
Cut me some slack will ya? I'm only one guy and I'm doing this for free. If the information I provide isn't detailed enough or of sufficient interest, I'll be happy to give you a 100% refund on what I charge you for it. But if you must, here's one for you to file away for future reference. An alleged shooter currently under investigation for a notorious and well publicized homicide has a brother who's a cop and a sister who's a lawyer. I know that's vague but at these prices, that's all I can afford to give you. You'll read more about it in the other media eventually. But remember you heard it here first. Street enough for you, dude? And just for future reference, think of this blog as a splendid iceberg shining in the sun. Appreciate it for what it is but remember you're only seeing the top 10 percent.

Anonymous said...

Gang violence in the SF Valley has been going up for years especially after the Rampart and Crash scandals. I still remember when the LAPD Crash unit quit doing police work in the Valley. I am sure gang activity has increased since then.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/694000/posts
Published: Saturday, June 1, 2002
Valley killings up 80%
By Jason Kandel
Staff Writer

A two-year surge in serious crime in Los Angeles has sent homicides in the San Fernando Valley soaring by 80 percent in the first five months of this year compared with 2000, figures released Friday show.

Police recorded 54 killings in the Valley through Friday, compared with 36 through May 2001 and 30 during the first five months of 2000.

Pacoima gang members are fighting a gang known as the Vineland Boys based in North Hollywood. The two gangs have been crossing a dividing line at Saticoy Street and entering into enemy territory for more than a year, police said.

Police theorize that the current feud may be retaliation from shootings last year and an ongoing drug war involving the Mexican Mafia.

"We're hearing Vineland Boys have liaisoned with La Eme," said Lt. Gary Nanson, who heads the Valley Bureau's Special Enforcement Unit. "Word is that Eme have chartered Vineland to go and hit those who are not paying taxes. Vineland Boys are heavily financed through narcotics."

White Is Right said...

Not to offend Wally, but Half Breed can you give me some examples of the info Wally is bringing to us from the "streets". Lately I mostly see references to news stories from other sources and then opinions about that story. I would like to also get that inside “street” news info, maybe I have been napping or something. I have been reading here for about nine months and I have yet to get any inside scoop on a news story.





I can give you one example.I've been reading this blog for about 2-3 years now.
I live in Norther Calif.I have done a little bit of time locally like Juvi, ranch, County Jail, you know small time.A couple of years ago I started reading some talk of the PEN1's.I had never heard of these guy's.Sure up here we have SKINS and in County they have the WOODS and I've heard of the Nazi Lowriders.So I started looking up the PEN1's and started paying more attention to the blog when they were mentioned just to find out a little bit more about them.
Needless to say , I'm watching the News yesterday and they are talking about how the PEN1's are the new muscle for the AB and what not.Here I was thinking to myself " Damn, I was reading that stuff on In The Hat 2 years ago.
Maybe you are more aware of this stuff than I am , and being up North I obviously don't know what's going on down there, but this is an example of how Wally's blog has kept me informed ( Years in advance ) on what is going on in other places.
Not to mention the whole Brown Vs. Black drama that has been going on down South and in the System was mentioned here way before the News started talking about it.

Anonymous said...

I wait and wait and wait hurry up Wally!
Waiting for my Chismes de la Calle
7:00 PM

Time for this dudes rectal flush and recommended service to be performed Wallace.

Anonymous said...

Pacoimero, Steve ~Loco~ Garcia, Sanfer alumni and on city's top Ten, picked up in ensanada last nite.

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Anonymous said...

Don Q,
Since you're the expert on L.A. gang history and an old veterano I figured I would ask you.
When did gangs start in L.A?
What clique was the first one and when?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Don Q,
Since you're the expert on L.A. gang history and an old veterano I figured I would ask you.
When did gangs start in L.A?
What clique was the first one and when?
You shouldn't of stopped there green horn..
Who what when where why how..
Lets have dates, names, addresses,
We want it notarized corroborated and sealed with a kiss and promise to la Virgen Guadalupe.
You don't demand anything here, your not at your in-laws.
The parade of idiots continues here, geez gag me with spoon homes.

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Anonymous said...

anonymous asks ................
"When did gangs start in L.A?
What clique was the first one and when? "


http://www.nagia.org/Gang%20Articles/Hispanic%20Gangs.htm
http://www.gangsorus.com/
http://www.knowgangs.com/contact.php


The web has plenty of web-sites which cover the history of gangs in LA. White fence was one of the first Mexican gangs in east LA. Also look up zoot suit to get more history information.

White fence stared out as a group of men which would walk Mexican kids to school and provide safe passage for their kids to school. The Mexican kids were harassed by whites and other recent immigrants in East L.A. Now White Fence are the intimidators and harassers of the area, how times have changed.

The name White Fence was so clever back in the 1930s’, I have visions of little kids playing safely behind a white picket fence.

Tex – Mex

don quixote said...

Thanks for the nod, yes I'm an old veterano alright, expert quien sabe, and back as far as I have ever heard came directly from a real old veterano I worked roofing with as a kid 40 years ago, at that time he was over 70 years old and still worked like a mule.
This old Pachuco was named Manuel Dominguez, and he looked the part 100%. He was about 5'6", skinny, dark complection with jet black, full head of hair and sported one of those old time pencil thin bigotes. He used to wear his ropa in the old Pachuco style including a wide brimmed fedora hat like Cab Calloway the original zoot suiter.

Manuel was a native of Los Angeles and a OG vato loco from Temple St. varrio in the old Bunker Hill neighborhood.
Manuel had never lost his coraje and strutted around todo chingon even as an old man.
Interesting history he told me then.
He was busted and did time as a kid in Preston School of Industry and as I recall he said it was 1911, and told of the mexicans then getting the beatings by the CO's at the infamous "whipping post"
He also did time for various offenses including a 5 year stretch in San Quentin for holding. (3 or 4 joints of mota).
Thats as far back as I have ever heard. Old LA neighborhoods include Temple St., Clantone, Jugtown, Alpine St., Mateo St., Macy St., Colonia Watts, Clover, Hazard, Happy Valley/Rose Hills Dogtown, Flats.
This was around downtown LA but there were other old varrios in the outlining areas of the SFV, SGV, among others.
dq

Anonymous said...

StillNoScript said...
Wally, you're damned right Cudahy is not unique.

Read the Project for a new American Century's (PNAC) platform in 2000, about their need for a large attack so the they can get America to support a middle east military campaign, then read the signore list and see all of the people who wound up with positions in Bush's cabinet. If any of you are Bush supporters, you should be proud of Cudahy. They're fast learners.

This guy is obsessed. These continual rants and his inability to reason intellectually is AMAZING. Everything goes back to Bush\Cheney/Haliburton.
He really makes himself look stupid.

Anonymous said...

StillNoScript said...
Mexican Cartels have infiltrated the government of a city in Los Angeles county about the size of a football field? Good for them. The Mexicans there, who are the original Californians, will probably be safer with the cartel running the city than they would with whites running it.

Oh, how did the cartels pull this off? My guess is that they took a lead from Halliburton and George W. Bush's 2000 Presidential campaign. Is there a better textbook?

Obsession or just plain sour grapes?

Anonymous said...

And now for the topper.
StillNoScript said:
my spending limit at $50. That way, in case I did wind up giving my money to a criminal enterprise, it wasn't as much as you guys gave to yet another criminal enterprise, with the gas you pumped into your SUV.

Put the pipe down mijo.

Anonymous said...

Just wondering. If poverty and lack of social programs is the reason for these gangs, how come after some of them have made more money than most of us will ever see in a lifetime they continue in the gang?

It would seem to me they could move out to the burbs, join a country club, and do whatever they wanted.

Tell me, did Suge Knight have to keep hanging out with gangsters due to poverty?

IT'S A LIFESTYLE CHOICE. THAT'S WHY THEY KEEP DOING IT. THEY CHOOSE TO.

Anonymous said...

Tex-Mex that is a bunch of balony. you need to get your facts straight.....It started with the kids from the local church....

Anonymous said...

Wally, Why dont you post my material? I have more inside info than like 90% of your bloggers. Due to your rules, I stopped coming to your site and dropping legit 411.

don quixote said...

Hey Tex Mex, maybe you should stick to the story of the Alamo.

I happen to be very familiar with the "WHite Fence" varrio, my grandmother, and other family lived there for many years on 6th between Euclid St. and Lorena St down in the hole.
Those were people that were there from the get go and the history is actually that the area was an early land and housing development in Boyle Hts ,and the area was designated by a white fence that surrounded the development. When the Chicanos moved in it was called "White Fence"
The Boyle Hts area had other early LA developments like "City Terrace" and around Brooklyn Ave. that was inhabited by Russians and Jews mainly relocating from the eastern US.
Thats why many of the streets are named after cities and places in the east such as Brooklyn Ave., Mott St., St. Louis, Chicago, Wabash St.,
One of my family members from the White Fence neighborhood went to school at Hollenbeck Jr. High with a famous alumni "Mickey Cohen" the gangster, and another cousin was "Little Bobby" Alcaraz from the White Fence Gang who was famous for starting a major riot at Preston and another in Levenworth against he Mayates when he was at the very least an associate of the Carnals.
My Abuela lived in a small house behind the famous "Garcia" family who produced 3 Catholic Nuns, a Christian Brother, and Monsignor Garcia who is well known in LA's Mexican community.
Typical Mexican AMerican neighborhood, good and bad.
dq

Anonymous said...

The name White Fence was so clever back in the 1930's...
Tex – Mex

Not as clever as you cadet,
who asks a Don Quixote a question at 11:17 AM:
"Don Q,
Since you're the expert on L.A. gang history and an old veterano I figured I would ask you.
When did gangs start in L.A?
What clique was the first one and when?"

and Jazzzam - holy of holies - shut my mouth - I'll have another piece of that sweet potato pie,
answers his own question at 12:31 PM?
The out-patients are out in force this month Wally.
"Biff"

Anonymous said...

SV VBS said……………….
Hey Red, I just found out that in the Feds. you vatos get to ride in the car. The NFs are still fucked but you regular vatos are allowed to kick it. It's just one big Califas car that keeps getting bigger.
PS. Red since you are kind of a homie now can you check if it's true that there is a growing kliqua of my barrio up there in Stockton. Gracias homie.

don quixote said...
There never was a "veterano from white fence" it was this same norteno probably "retired joker" who claims that vatos from the south forgave some guy in YTS who was knob bobbing other homies. I called him out then and he's still asco about it. puro pedo de mocoso



Wally,

I thought this blog was NOT about gang banging. I see that these two old sureno “reformed” cholos love to represent their sureno colors here in Wally’s world. What a couple of hypocrites, they tell us about all the evils of gangs but when they feel a Norteno is talking about them the true cholo comes out again.
SV VBS and Don Culo quit net banging for the surenos we already know you love your barrio/gang.

Gotta love the old scrapas

Anonymous said...

This column is outrageous. You've got the ol timer who seems to know his shit and brings the history. Then you got all the runts scampering around the facts he brings tryin to signify, an lookin STOOPID homie, STOOPID..

Unless the naysayers are all jura they got no excuse for being so totally uninformed.. But if they are cops it's obvious they need to get with some of their own veterans and suck up some knowledge, because man, they only be coming w/the comedy...

Educated Vato With a "V".........

don quixote said...

Songanabitchi! I feel Vroooooom! The joton net stalker thats obviously smittin with my broomstick (he calls me Don Camote, "Verga like a Yam") but recently has gone back in the closet, only refering to me as "don camote during freudian slips like this one from him,

"and Jazzzam - holy of holies - shut my mouth - I'll have another piece of that sweet potato pie,"

There he goes again, I see certain tendencies there, if you know what I mean!
And don't worry Chencha it's all good.

Well ya mi voy a trabajar, hope to make some jando and be back safe de voladas.
ahorita vuelve!

Hey shout out to SV VBS, you said the Bulldogs are in the car now with the Surenos in the Feds, and I've heard the same thing recently.
Interesting development but not really surprising, they don't want to chest up against their own raza like the Norteno's do with the African Americans.

Like TJ Jailer and others have warned about for a long time. The growth of the Carnals and thier socio's is continuing and as long as the blinders are on the so called Penal experts, and nothing is done on the street level with the Plebe it's going to be a long hot summer.

PS: WHen the Nortenos give the new guys there mandatory Prostrate exam I heard they fail if more than three fingers can be inserted in a "finger wave".
Que barbaro!

Anonymous said...

Pacas, nice to have you back. Despensa about our old feud. I was new to blogging and came out in a stupid and disrespectful way. Peace.

Hey Tex-Mex I checked out your sites, and damn that vato Al Valdez needs to read up on his Chicano history. Is he really RAZA? The vato presents a good WHITE view of Chicano history, pretty much the same shit that every high school kid has in their history books. This vato never mentions Tiburcio Vasquez and his gang of Desperados. Nor does he mention the infamous Joaquin Murietta and his gang that included in it's ranks that other infamous bandido "Three-Fingered Jack". These vatos and their gangs were active in the mid to late 1800s.

To anyone truly intrested in real Chicano history you have to read Rodolfo Acuna. I am sure that many will agree that he is by far the best Chicano Studies professor of all time. His book OCCUPIED AMERICA is legend. All the editions are great but the later ones are toned down a bit. The first two editions are collectors items. I would also recommend ANYTHING BUT MEXICAN, this book really looks into all aspects of LA. Great book from a great man.

Come on my northern homie take it easy. I'm not net banging, I thought that I was giving you a good piece of info. I didn't know that we rolled together so it was news for me. If you don't want to do me that little favor it's okay. You can still kick it. By the way there isn't any veteranos in my barrio, we have only been around since the late 80s. I don't think that being in your 30's is old.
ALRATO
SV VBS

Anonymous said...

Waiting for my chisme from the calle said:

"Not to offend Wally, but Half Breed can you give me some examples of the info Wally is bringing to us from the "streets". Lately I mostly see references to news stories from other sources and then opinions about that story. I would like to also get that inside “street” news info, maybe I have been napping or something. I have been reading here for about nine months and I have yet to get any inside scoop on a news story.

I would like to know how many arrests have been made of 204th gang members that have not been already covered in the local news.

Or maybe the whole point of this latest post by Wally was to tell us how this gang news was not covered back when he started this blog."

You are an idio_a b_boso!!!

You have an awesome blogsite here wally, keep those blogs coming.

Anonymous said...

Vato “V” be careful because this blog is on the LAPD top 10 internet gang sites. The juras are here every day all day doing an internet wire tap. The feds have pulled out all the stops and are using every resource of the federal government to investigate all the cuentos and chismes posted here.

I noticed when I log into Wally’s blog my computer monitor does a quick flash, I know jura is using my monitor to a picture of me. Pero sabes que, I went to the 99 cents store and bought me a mask. You know those funny big glasses with the big moustache. So when jura takes my picture I will be fucking with them. I know jura is always on the internet instead of doing real police work, but I am too smart a Veterano to let jura spy on me.

The feds are not going to catch me when the RICO indictment of Wally’s gang goes down. I have been in the pinta too many times for little shit like stealing milk for my baby. The feds should be investigating President Bush and getting him with RICO indictments. But the fed they are fucking with our jente on the internet. SNS and Don Q. told me about this shit jura is doing to us, so keep thucha Vato V.

Veterano Big V

Anonymous said...

Don Q.
I have a picture from back in your time, around 1960 in LHTS. Shot Wally an email and he will forward you the picture.

Anonymous said...

D-Q,
I have much respect for you carnal, at least you know a better insight on a certain area of LA and the history of gang evolution. Nevertheless, some of your details and historical points on other parts of LA county are not correct or lack the root of the factual details. I admit that we all dont know it everything in this LA gang business. The area and parts that you do know, you do have good cross reference and legit facts. I do give you the highest of kudos on not being a bull-s-er and standing up like a man and admitting that your lost on information. But at this time, I want to give the biggest apology for calling you "MR. CAMOTE". I made that name up for you a long time ago and it seems now that everyone took it from me, or took credit for it and ran with it. My apologies again, mucho respecto pero tu sabes. Nuestra guente loca de CPT a veces la chinga ma-chine ese. You need to understand that using a name like Don quixote is not a title that I'm very respectful to or on top of my totem pole of ideal book characters. If you have visited or studied in Spain and Europe, you would get tired on hearing the Spainards repeatly state how they are the shit and better than the rest of the world. They are like the Argentineans of the Americas. After half an hour of hearing their rhetoric, you feel like kicking their asses LA style.
perdon!

Anonymous said...

Orale - There's peace in the valley. Bon Voyage Quixote...GJ

StillNoScript said...

Anonymous said...

StillNoScript said...
Wally, you're damned right Cudahy is not unique.

Read the Project for a new American Century's (PNAC) platform in 2000, about their need for a large attack so the they can get America to support a middle east military campaign, then read the signore list and see all of the people who wound up with positions in Bush's cabinet. If any of you are Bush supporters, you should be proud of Cudahy. They're fast learners.

This guy is obsessed. These continual rants and his inability to reason intellectually is AMAZING. Everything goes back to Bush\Cheney/Haliburton.
He really makes himself look stupid.

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Wow. You sure refuted that, didn't you?

Is the takeover of Cudahy by drug cartels any more dangerous than the takeover of our government by special interest groups, the most powerful of them by far being the energ and military industries, people blood thirsty for continuous war in the middle east, rather it's in the interest of national security or not?

Just say yes or no, and give examples to support your answer.

Are you capable of that?

If you aren't, just say so.

Believe me, I'll understand. It's par for the course for most of the cops that post here.


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Anonymous said...

StillNoScript said...
Mexican Cartels have infiltrated the government of a city in Los Angeles county about the size of a football field? Good for them. The Mexicans there, who are the original Californians, will probably be safer with the cartel running the city than they would with whites running it.

Oh, how did the cartels pull this off? My guess is that they took a lead from Halliburton and George W. Bush's 2000 Presidential campaign. Is there a better textbook?

Obsession or just plain sour grapes?

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Obsession, without a doubt. Should I not be obsessed with the complete corruption of our government?

And, what would the sour grapes be over? I dream of being a film maker one day, not of owning an oil company and sending kids overseas to kill other kids, in order to secure more profits.

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Anonymous said...

And now for the topper.
StillNoScript said:
my spending limit at $50. That way, in case I did wind up giving my money to a criminal enterprise, it wasn't as much as you guys gave to yet another criminal enterprise, with the gas you pumped into your SUV.

Put the pipe down mijo.

1:19 PM

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Put your drug chart down, Barney.

Is the gas that we use in America NOT funding terrorism? Are the entities that the gas profits in America going to more or less dangerous than the drug dealers that have taken over Cudahy?

The entire point I've made with those 3 posts, which was over a week ago, and that you have no answer for other than the typical headquarters cheap shots, was that the administration running America right now is far more dangerous, and has already put us in situations far more grave, than any situation a bunch of 3rd world drug dealers could put us in by taking control of a town so small that many people in the L.A. region don't even know where it is without a map, including, probably, yourself, considering the likelihood of you not being able to even read a map.

Considering your debating skills, which, thus far, don't even exist, I'm wondering if you even know the 4 cardinal directions. Well, as long as you can find your way to the SouthEast station, I guess.

Back to the poverty thing...you ever notice how you can only come up with a handful of examples to support the case that poverty has nothing to do with gang violence?

Suge Knight....wow.

Okay....there's one!

Now, what about the hundreds of thousands of poor kids who make up for the other 99.9% of gang members?

God, why don't they make you cops read books? Again, it is frightening how stupid some of you fuckers really are.

trukos said...

Hey Wally heard from Sam Quinones, yet?

trukos said...

Hey shout out to SV VBS, you said the Bulldogs are in the car now with the Surenos in the Feds, and I've heard the same thing recently.
Interesting development but not really surprising, they don't want to chest up against their own raza like the Norteno's do with the African Americans.




Whats this? Please elaborate.

Anonymous said...

Don Q said ...

Hey shout out to SV VBS, you said the Bulldogs are in the car now with the Surenos in the Feds, and I've heard the same thing recently.
Interesting development but not really surprising, they don't want to chest up against their own raza like the Norteno's do with the African Americans.



He was talking about Nortenos , pendejo.Go back and read it over again.But you heard the same thing recently eh? Yeah cause Don Q knows everthing that has to do with gangbanging.O.K OG Don Q Big Homie.
Grow up old timer.

Anonymous said...

WALLY,
Don't worry about no one listening to you, I have been telling people for the last 10 to 15 years that these little cities in SouthEast LA were the focus point and starting point of your heavy hitter drug organizations and enterprises back in the mid-1970s to today. I used the word "enterprises", because they are all small connected business fronts for EME and more specifically for the Mexican Cartel's drug distribution rings. The people in these areas were all multi-generational relatives of a past linage of the current Mexican cartel shot callers. You would be surprise to know how many people live or have lived in these small cities of Southeast Los Angeles and allowed to flourish by the local governments and untouched by your local PD. Not until one day an O.G. LE vet listened to what I had to say, he than said the magic words, "let me look into it" and BANG!!!!!
I can give you a long laundry list of dirty people and places in Sur Este, pero that's for some other vato to figure it out. If i am not asked, I dont say nada. SouthEast is like Tijuana, everyone knows who, what, where, but no ones says nada.
Aside from my wife, now I have more than one person listening to me. :) So dont feel bad.

From the guy who apologized for calling DQ a sweet potato.
Mr. Happy Face.
:)

Anonymous said...

Heres some history on a couple San Gabriel Valley barrios that I am familiar with.....

Mis Abuelitos immigrated here from Mexico in the early 1920’s first they took up residence in what is now La Puente, then later moved to El Monte in what is presently Medina court (Hayes)Where my jefita was born in 1928. Hicks camp is a little bit older then Hayes, but the actual street Medina court was estabished in 1907, to which I've seen documents. Back then the “camps” were actually ranchos that adopted the names of the ranch owners. e.g. “de donde eres? El rancho de Hayes or el rancho de Hicks”. Many familys from Hicks and Hayes were related through marriges, my jefita was from Hayes and my jefe was from Hicks although he was born in Mexico.

John Hayes: A successful farmer, teacher and walnut grower, who pioneered with the early settlers of El Monte, and vicinity, was John Hayes. Born in Ireland in 1836, Mr. Hayes came to America and California in 1868 from Australia, where for a number of years, he had served the British government as a surveyor. For a number of years, immediately following his arrival in California, Mr. Hayes was likewise employed by the Southern Pacific Railway as a surveyor.
In 1878 he came to El Monte and engaged in teaching – his services being used in the El Monte, Bogdale (now Temple), and Lower Azusa Schools. In the year of his arrival in El Monte Mr. Hayes was married to Susan Hubbert, who came to California from Texas about the year 1868. Six boys were born to this union, of whom five are now living (1936), namely: W.T. of New York city, B.H. and Eugene, of Madera, California, and Frank and E.A. of El Monte.Mr. Hayes purchased a ranch of 300 acres north and east of El Monte, and for a number of years, engaged in raising grain and hogs. He later was one of the first to see the possibilities of what was later to be one of this district’s major industries – walnut raising.
His sons, Frank and E.A. now own the original ranch fo their father and have operated it since his death, which occurred in 1910. Mrs. Hayes died in 1917. Worth of note is the historical fact that John Hayes, together with Scott Killian, another large ranch owner of that time, purchased and installed the first irrigating pumping plant, in the El Monte district, which marked the beginning of irrigation by pumping, and led to further development in agriculture in this territory.Frank Hayes, one of the sons, is and for several years has been, manager of the El Monte Walnut Growers’ Association.

My abuelito and a few other veteranos from Medina court actually worked for Mr. Frank Hayes on his rancho. It was told to me by an old timer that he was a miserly old man and did not treat our people fair.

El Monte in the 1920's was an agricultural area known for its crops of walnuts, strawberries and tomatoes. Most of these crops were planted and harvested by migrant workers. The city's economy was also made up of canneries and small businesses located along Valley Boulevard, in addition to the agricultural industry.
The migrant workers used by the farmers immigrated to the United States from Mexico following the Mexican Revolution of 1910. The immigrants coming to El Monte settled in two camps known as Wiggins and Hicks Camp. In the late 1920's and early 1930's, a new colony started. It was first called Hayes after the man who owned the land but later it became known as Medina Court. It is here where El Calvario is presently located.The camps where the Mexicans lived had inadequate housing, no electricit and unsanitary conditions. It was these conditions which brought forth the visitation of some members of the Divine Savior Presbyterian Church of Los Angeles, who made weekly visits to Hicks Camp. This effort to help the workers in Hicks Camp began in 1927 but became organized in 1929 under the name of the Mexican-American Board.By 1942 the Mexican-American Board had a deep concern for the spiritual and social conditions of all the Mexican residents of the city of El Monte. Prompted by this vital interest in their living conditions, a survey was conducted. And it was not until this survey that it became apparent that a social approach with a strong Christian motivation was necessary to bring about social changes in a community lacking so much. A more systematic approach was planned. In 1949 a new Board of Directors was constituted and a budget of $4,845.00 was approved to develop a social work program in the area.
A Pastor-Director, Mr. Trujillo, was then hired and an old two story building in Medina Court was acquired. The name "Mexican American Board" was dropped and a new name, El Calvario Community Center, was adopted. In September 1949, a group worker, Dorothy King, was hired to help augment the program. Although the main building for the Center was located in Medina Court, Hicks Camp was served on an outstation basis until the land was sold and developed into single family homes.
Andy Torres followed Mr. Trujillo as Director and Almaron Wilder was hired when Mr. Torres resigned. It was during Mr. Wilder's term as Director that the Synod of Southern California constructed the building in Medina Court where El Calvario is presently located. A playing field in back of the building was acquired by the Board of Directors in 1960.
In 1958, the Board engaged Ignacio Aquilar as Director and he played a vital role in the development and direction of the Center until his resignation in October 1977. Sachi Asahina joined the staff in 1965 as ProgramDirector and was appointed Acting Director in 1977. Sachi also played an important part in shaping the programs at the Center, and it was under her direction that a nursery school was started. Since its inception, the nursery school has consistently been one of the most successful programs at El Calvario.
In 1970, El Calvario incorporated as a non-profit agency. In 1971, the contribution of $15,000.00 year by the Synod of Southern California was drastically curtailed and the following year was withdrawn. After that, El Calvario funded itself through the United Way, private contributions and gifts of various organizations and individual churches, although the building continued to be owned by the Synod of Southern California.
In 1978, Arturo Guevara, our present Executive Director, was hired by the Board of Directors. 1978 also marked the refunding of El Calvario by the Synod of Southern California, although to a lesser degree than formerly. By mid-1981, the staff had grown to include three full-time employees and four part-time workers, making a greatly expanded program possible. However, as throughout its history, the motivation has continued to be a Christian concern for the health and welfare of the constituency El Calvario serves.

El Calvario Community Center still stands today at its present location on Montecito Drive, a block south of Medina Court. The center has seen better days. Today there is still a nursery school a boxing program, and few other programs for at risk youths. As far as all the original families from the early days, Ramirez’s, Saenz, Beltrans, Guardados, Granados, Flores, well most are gone. A lot of new people from Mexico live in the area but it is know longer a Barrio like it used to be when everyone knew one another. Although there are still active homies, most are torcido, and do to strong presence of the EMPD, you can no longer hang out in front of the store drinking pisto and watching the jente pass by as was done 24/7 just a few years ago. The older folks can and do hang out at the LA HISTORIA SOCIETY MUSEUM, over on Tyler & Bodger in El Monte, if you ever want to learn about the 5 El Monte Barrios (camps) HICKS, HAYES, LAS FLORES, LA MISSION, WIGGINS CAMP, AND CANTA RANAS, come by and check it out.

El Montero

Anonymous said...

StillNoScript said...
Back to the poverty thing...you ever notice how you can only come up with a handful of examples to support the case that poverty has nothing to do with gang violence?

Great comeback. Except that 90% of poor kids DON'T join gangs. You could write a library on what you DON'T know about gangs.
What a fucking lame.

Anonymous said...

StillNoScript said:
Obsession, without a doubt. Should I not be obsessed with the complete corruption of our government?

Complete corruption. Oh ok, I got it now. Please expound oh wondrous
one as to which country you feel poor people are treated better in and have a better chance to move up the socio-economic ladder.
Not a ranting superflous political commentary expousing your hatred for America because you hate the President. Just give us an example.

I guess at least I should give you credit for admitting you are obsessed.
As for me being a stupid fucker...
Well obsessed one, this stupid fucker is intelligent enough to not argue about something that I know I have an obsession about. One who is obsessed cannot present a logical argument due to their emotional state concerning the subject. They make themselves look foolish to those who are not obsessed, because the non-obsessed can use logical reasoning and maintain a reasonable perspective on the subject, while the obsessed
continues to argue while in a completely emotional state.
Your statements regarding our country being better off if it was run by the drug cartels says it all.
Yeah right. Tijuana and Juarez are the envy of every modern progressive city in North America.
Like I said before, you are AMAZING.
P.S. Your quick wit, sarcasm, and extensive education are apparent in your retorts to my posts, but they cannot hide your obsession.
It's too bad that a man with your intelligence and education continually reveals his human frailty and looks silly to the rest of us.

Awaiting your reply
Stupid Fucker

Anonymous said...

StillNoScript said...
Suge Knight....wow.

Okay....there's one!

He's the only example I gave. Successful rappers make millions, and keep hanging with the homeboys.
Do they have to or choose to?

Your lack of expertise on this subject is apparent.
Today, more than ever, gang banging is cool in the eyes of many middle class adolescents.
Kids but their CD's (that's why they are millionaires) want to dress like them,( go to a high school in the burbs and check out all the kids saggin) and emulate their behavior ( go to the burbs and listen to the kids call each other "dog" and "G").
Get it now? It's cool. So they keep doing it.

StillNoScript said...

Wally wrote:

"In rapid sequence we had the Connie Rice report, the spike in gang crimes, four Hispanics executed Sadr City style on Harvard by black shooters with AKs, Kaytlin Avila wantonly shot in the chest by a guy who went out of his way to come back and kill her, the cop conference with LE from south, way south and way, way south of the border and then there was Cheryl Green. And after that we got Najee Ali with the phony truce, Bob Mueller, a Task Force, Feinstein asking for $1 Billion for gang suppression/intervention, Rocky sort of wanting and not wanting a gang Czar, the Drew Street dope house slamdown, Shadow Cambero from 43 making it to the Ten Most Wanted list, Garcia extradited back to the US, LA Bridges under scrutiny, Weasel getting shot, Tony V. lobbying the AG for money and bodies and now the Guv and Rudy G. meeting to get something done."

And, in the late 1990s, we had a far lower number of gang related homicides as compared to both today, and the late '80s! I'll be saying 'it's about fucking time' when either you or any of the so called liberals at the Times addresses that, and gives the who how when why and whats in regards to it. Come on, Wally. The truth will set us free, remember? Or, maybe it was the 'half truth' that would set us free?

Wallista Tribune said...

http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Business/latinos_land_2_in_3_us_construction_jobs/20070307-073624-4659r/

Latinos (Mexicanos) land 2 in 3 U.S. construction jobs
WASHINGTON, March 7 (UPI) -- Latinos make up 13.6 percent of the U.S. employment population, but accounted for 36.7 percent of the 2006 U.S. employment growth, a study showed Wednesday.

Most of the jobs Hispanic workers landed were in the construction industry, the Pew Hispanic Center said.

In fact, two out of every three new U.S. constriction jobs went to Hispanic workers, the center said.

Hispanic employment increased by almost 1 million from 2005 to 2006, with foreign-born Latinos who arrived since 2000 responsible for about 24 percent of the total U.S. employment increase.

Undocumented immigrants accounted for about two-thirds of the increase in recently arrived Hispanic workers, the center estimated.

The center derived its estimates from Bureau of Labor Statistics and Census Bureau data, it said.

Were here, get used to it, it's the new America...don't be angry, hop on and don't get left behind besides and more importantly, bitterness is a devastating cancer (^:

Anonymous said...

SV VBS is still free while key VBS vatos are locked down. The news said anyone who was anyone was arrested but he's still free...hmmmnn
Then Don C admits to calling the police on some vatos shooting...a violation of the movidas he learned at age 9...
now they're all happy Bulldogs ride with sur...MAYBE THEIR HOPING TO GET A FINGERWAVE...FOR RATTING

Anonymous said...

http://www.drudgereport.com/
BUSH VA AL SUR DE LA FRONTERA

YES AMIGOS EL PEFENDEFO GO VISIT US.
"The trip is to remind people that we care," Bush said in an interview Wednesday with CNN En Espanol...Bush has packed a suitcase of strategies for nurturing trade, fighting drug-traffickers, curbing poverty and social inequality and a cure for Ricketts for his trip, which also will take him to Colombia, Guatemala, Mexico and Brazil, where mass protests on Wednesday preceded his visit.

Anonymous said...

CDC:

Blacks account for half of Americans living with HIV...

Anonymous said...

YES I KNOW ABOUT THE CAPS LOCK BUT THIS VIEJITO IS LOSING HIS VISION, SO DESCULPE. ANYWAYS I REALLY WANTED TO CLARIFY ON THE WHITE FENCE ISSUE ON WHERE THE BARRIO STARTED, SO HERE GOES- WHITE FENCE WAS STARTED AROUND WABASH AND EVERGREEN UP TO WABASH AND ALMA IN BOYLE HEIGHTS BUT THIS AREA IS FAR AWAY FROM THE BOYLE HEIGHTS OF EUCLID AND LORENA, THIS AREA WAS IN FACT THE BARRIO OF EAST SIDE LOS NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH THE BARRIO EAST LOS WHICH WAS ANOTHER HOOD, SO WHITE FENCE WAS ORIGINALLY IN WABASH NEXT TO CITY TERRACE, AND THE VARRIOS NEXT TO IT WERE DUNDAS STREET LOCOS, THAT WHOLE AREA WAS TAKEN OVER LATER BY JUAREZ MARAVILLA AND WHITE FENCE STARTED UP AGAIN IN BOYLE HEIGHTS AREA OF WHITTIER BLVD, LORENA AND EUCLID WHICH IS NOW THE PRESENT DAY CERCO BLANCO THE HOLE, THE ORIGINAL CLIKA ON WABASH WAS THE MONSTROS, IF YOU KNOW ANYONE FROM EAST SIDE LOS YOU CAN ASK THEM AND THEY WILL TELL YOU THAT WHITE FENCE TOOK OVER THERE VARRIO WHEN THEY DIED OUT AROUND 1970, I STILL KNOW ONE VATO FROM ESL HIS PLACA IS NEGRO AND THIS VATO IS IN HIS 50S AND HAS BEEN LOCKED UP SINCE HE WAS 16 FOR TAKING A RAP AS A JUVINILE, HE WAS SENTENCED TO 3 YEARS AND CAUGHT A MUERTE IN Y.A AND WAS TRANSFERED TO LA PINTA AND GIVEN NATURAL LIFE, MOST OF ESL GANG MEMBERS KIDS JOINED IN THE VARRIO CERCO BLANCO SINCE THIS WAS THE NEW HOOD IN THE AREA, IF ANYONE KNOWS THE WHEREABOUTS OF NEGRO IN THE SYSTEM POST IT OR IF YOU HAVE MET HIM DOING TIME, HIS REAL NAME IS JOSE CHAVARRIA, OR IF YOU KNOW HIS PRIMO A YOUNGSTER FROM KING KOBRAS HIS NAME WAS DAVID CHAVARRIA AKA BUKKY.ALRATO

Anonymous said...

From the so-called Wallista Tribune:
Were here, get used to it, it's the new America...don't be angry, hop on and don't get left behind besides and more importantly, bitterness is a devastating cancer (^:

The "New America" is in a world of hurt.Senor Bush (whom Hispanics fell in behind overwhelmingly) has sold this country down the river, albeit polluted river.. Plenty of signs show that what you claim to have inherited is nearly used up by the gluttons who came before you. What were once Third World countries are quickly transitioning into economic powers. Toyota is soon to become one of the "big 3" and there's no stopping them now. China keeps their currency undervalued in order to manipulate a huge trade imbalance, and the wiseguys who control our government are hurriedly sapping whatever lifesblood remains before we can boot them out of office. Locally your politicos are trying to keep law-abiding folks appeased and tranquil while this gang plague is destroying your neighborhoods because in reality they hav'nt a clue as to a solution. News media cranks out diversions to keep the masses at bay, Anna fucking Nichole,stupid diaper wearing astronauta, trailer trash Britney, ad nauseum.. How much recognition have any of you given to the implications of this "Scooter" Libby debacle? Are you well aware that the man was Cheney's dupe? I hope so.. You "lucky folk" who've arrived are burdened with the responsibility of returning this land to a place with a conscience. If the up and coming gangsters who've emerged from your spawn are any indication then your work is cut out for you.. I'm well aware that latinos have been here from Day 1. I feature Lewis and Clark breaking through some thicket to a clearing with the smell of carnitas and the sound of mariachis. But it was all downhill from there..

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
"Complete corruption. Oh ok, I got it now. Please expound oh wondrous
one as to which country you feel poor people are treated better in and have a better chance to move up the socio-economic ladder."

"Yeah right. Tijuana and Juarez are the envy of every modern progressive city in North America."

You can't compare the richest nation in the world with a third world country like Mexico. To make any kind of a fair comparison you have to use only countries that are considered members of the first world. It's really an easy exercise you should try it. It might open your eyes.

You are right about most poor kids not joining gangs. But then again you don't have to be in a gang to get locked up. America has the largest prison population in the world. And it has been proven that the vast majority of it's prisoners are poor people of color. So to say that poverty has nothing to do with crime or gangs is ludircrous.

Your example of record mogul Suge Knight and other rappers is not really valid. You yourself state how middle class kids all over the US spend millions on their CDs, and how these kids try to imitate them. So why change if they don't need to.

It's funny how neo-cons consider it America bashing when citizens use their rights and speak out against this corrupt administration. An administration that only listens to the OIL CARTELS and who's lies have cost us not only our treasury but over 3000 real American lives. These fuckin fascists are truly AMAZING.

ALRATO
SV VBS

Anonymous said...

FARRAKHAN ON 'NIGHTLINE': Clinton 'did less for black people than other presidents'; Obama 'a beautiful young man'...
oHH A WARM AND FUZZY FEELING?
Lets not go there boys,
Don't ask, don't tell!

"Biff"

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

"SV VBS is still free while key VBS vatos are locked down. The news said anyone who was anyone was arrested but he's still free...hmmmnn"


The news said what the cops wanted them to say. Reporters were handed their article in a press conference and that's what they put in their papers. That's why the story was exactly the same in every newspaper. Any reporter that would have taken the time and done their job would've found out some intresting things.

Right off the bat they would have found out that not all of the people in that indictment were from Vineland. They would have also found out that their is no leader or any type of leadership stucture in the barrio. The closest that we came to having a leader ended years ago when my homie passed away. So those RICO charges should not have applied.

Another thing that stood out was the fact that LE only took in vatos with some kind of drug offense in their record. Many good homies that don't have drug offenses are still walking the calles.

But the biggest story for them would have been how the trials were conducted. The people indicted were represented by about 50 lawyers, who made over 200 motions and all were denied, while the prosecutors motions were all allowed. They were even allowed to present officer Campbell's testimony of the shootout that claimed officer Pavelkas and my homeboys lifes. That testimony had a very strong influence on the jury. But it should not have been allowed since none of the people in trial had anything to do with that shootout.

LE claims to have had a near 100% conviction rate on these indictments. And that's true to a certain degree. The fact is that upon seeing how the court had shot down motion after motion, and seeing how the burden of prove was some how shifted to the defense. Most homeboys decided to take deals of a few years instead of risking life sentences. Waiting for an appeal to go through would have taken more years than what most homies got. The homies that took it all the way really had no choice.

There was one guy that really got fucked. He was a paisa that took care of a couple of my homeboys gallos. Well the vato was recorded by the feds. talking to the homies a few times. He called them to make them aware that their gallos were short on food and vitamins. And even though the defense showed that at the time and place of this guys arrest he had in his backyard about 100 gallos. The feds. were still able to convince the jury that that was code talk for drugs. I think he got 25 to life. That paisa was considered some kind of captain in their structural theory on the barrio. Go figure.

As for myself, I never claimed to be anyone. However, I can tell you that I was there when the my barrio started. And that I am in good standing with my homeboys and others. I'll leave it at that.
Alrato
SV VBS

Anonymous said...

SV VBS said:

"It's funny how neo-cons consider it America bashing when citizens use their rights and speak out against this corrupt administration. An administration that only listens to the OIL CARTELS and who's lies have cost us not only our treasury but over 3000 real American lives. These fuckin fascists are truly AMAZING."

Don't act like you really give a rat's behind about our troops or our country. I bet you never even served this country. If Bush came up with a cure for cancer you'd still be reading off the liberal script. You should be more concerned about your neo-secular progressives.

Anonymous said...

El Montero,

You we're completely wrong in calling Marta Puebla a snitch. Did you ever bother to read Marta's story in the LA Weekly, she was no snitch? Also, last time you posted on this blog you we're condoning death reprisals against so-called snitches like Marta, now in your latest post you sound like a law-abiding history buff. Do you suffer from split personality disorder or something? Get it together homie, or should I say professor?

Anonymous said...

SV VBS said:
It's funny how neo-cons consider it America bashing when citizens use their rights and speak out against this corrupt administration. An administration that only listens to the OIL CARTELS and who's lies have cost us not only our treasury but over 3000 real American lives. These fuckin fascists are truly AMAZING.

I'll quote George Lopez:
"America is the greatest country on earth".
What's funny is how you call me a neo-con because I simply point out how ridiculous it is for SNS to make the statement that this country would be better off if the drug cartels were in charge.
That makes me a neo-con?
Don't like what a person has to say., so you brand him with a name.
Very poor debate tactic. Why don't you let somebody who has deductive reasoning get SNS's back. When you
quickly pull out the "neo-con" card to rebutt my argument, it shows your lack of ability to intelligently debate the subject.
Corrupt as compared to what other country? You talk about how my comparison's are not applicable (In your opinion). I notice how you nor SNS named a country that the poor are better off in. So, if the U.S.A. is as good as it gets, yet you still continue to complain about it, that makes you unrealistic in your argument.
But then again, based on your argument, I guess you consider George Lopez a facist and neo-con. I simply stated what he did on stage at the end of his last HBO special, and you call me a neo-con.
Think before you speak young man.

ALRATO
Stupid Fucker Facist Neo-Con

Anonymous said...

SV VBS said:
Your example of record mogul Suge Knight and other rappers is not really valid. You yourself state how middle class kids all over the US spend millions on their CDs, and how these kids try to imitate them. So why change if they don't need to.

Thanks for making my point for me, and confirming what I said. Exactly, they don't need to change,
or want to, after they have millions. Far from poverty, but they continue to bang. Thanks, appreciate it.

ALRATO
Stupid Fucker Fascist Neo-Con

Anonymous said...

( Anonymous said...

ANYWAYS I REALLY WANTED TO CLARIFY ON THE WHITE FENCE ISSUE ON WHERE THE BARRIO STARTED, SO HERE GOES- WHITE FENCE WAS STARTED AROUND WABASH AND EVERGREEN)
that used to be the spot for frios back in the day.there was a green burrito around there q-no?

Anonymous said...

SV VBS said:
You can't compare the richest nation in the world with a third world country like Mexico. To make any kind of a fair comparison you have to use only countries that are considered members of the first world. It's really an easy exercise you should try it. It might open your eyes.

I didn't compare them youngster.
I simply rebutted SNS's statement that we would be better off with drug cartels running our cities and this country.
In order for me to do that, I have to use a couple of cities that are run by drug cartels to show the stupidity of his statement.
What first world country IS
run by drug cartels? Chale mijo, the defense rests.
You make my points for me and then call me names and say I'm AMAZING.
We can end this debate if you answer a simple question youngster.
Do you believe America would be better off if drug cartels were running the country?

ALRATO
Stupid Fucker Fascist Neo-Con

the Kansonion mule dispatch said...

COSENZA, Italy: A driverless railway engine thundered nearly 200 kilometres (120 miles) through southern Italy at 80 kilometres (50 miles) an hour 'bfoe staff managed ta derail it. The driver had set da locomotive in motion, leaned out ta see if da line ahead wuz clear, then slipped an' fell from his cabin. Another railway worker tried ta jump aboard an' stop it but failed an' da train gathered speed until it wuz finally switched ta uh track wiff uh long incline an' it smashed through buffers at uh disused station 'bfoe finally coming ta uh halt.
Well hell...

(^:

Anonymous said...

What? Don Q calling the jura?
Wonder what the big carnals and the old veteranos who schooled him
would think of that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Calling the jura doesn't even put you in the wannabe car. So quit referring to yourself as a veterano. The REAL veteranos are laughing at you, and consider you a rata.
It's ok to be a citizen, really it is ok. But don't try to come off like some street schooled gangster
and then turn around and cop to calling the jura when two cliques are having a beef.
Just admit you're a citizen and kick rocks.

mr. escargot said...

How doo you doo my fellow weight watchers,
This is the latest new news from Bulgaria. As you know I have cousin in Bulgarian mafia who until Monday was doing beauty of scam exporting to Israel and making mama mia kind o money - hand over fist as Americano's say, but Jewish German Sheppard doggy put spike in Enrico's money machine. Here I send clipping of article in paper:

JERUSALEM: Israeli authorities seized a consignment of 80,000 cans of dog food disguised as gourmet goose liver pate. The Bulgarian product was originally marked as "Chicken for dogs" but was relabelled "Domestic birds' liver pate" and "Pate de foie gras". The importer had also forged a kosher certificate to fulfill the requirements of Jewish dietary law.

I telle Enrico to use Kitty foody but he no wanna listen? Anyway mafioso hugs to all of you..... except to Mr. Crazy and his lap dog the Orgulloso Mexican...yeah, yes they yank it together - give new meaning to Gay Caballeros.

Ps. Dear Wally, when you write book on Bulgarian mafia I introduce you to the circle, so until then my fellow gay caballeros I go target practice with my one shot Derringer, I tape bull's eye on back of In-laws Moo Moo.

Anonymous said...

Neo-con, you're right I fucked up. I read your post wrong, despensa. My answer to your question is a NO. But I do believe that we will be better off when your boy in the white house is gone. The vato and his administration have really fucked things up. The amazing thing is that this guy still has ANY supporters left.

You also asked this question,
"which country you feel poor people are treated better in and have a better chance to move up the socio-economic ladder." My attempt to answer was that we can only compare ourselves with other first world countries. The site posted below will give you a better answer.
http://www.epinet.org/books/swa2004/news/swafacts_international.pdf

ALRATO
SV VBS

PS. Old Timer you should stop calling men "mijos". It makes you sound gay.

Anonymous said...

SV VBS said:
It's funny how neo-cons consider it America bashing when citizens use their rights and speak out against this corrupt administration. An administration that only listens to the OIL CARTELS and who's lies have cost us not only our treasury but over 3000 real American lives. These fuckin fascists are truly AMAZING.

Let me point out to you what is REALLY AMAZING. While engaged in this debate, I never once mentioned the war or called you an
"America basher" nor did I EVER question your loyalty to America. Yet you come back with a post like that. Very interesting. I never mentioned the Bush administration and never intimated that I am a Bush supporter. Yet, when I simply point out the ridiculousness of SNS's statements, you categorically
consider me a neo-con.
I happen to be a Democrat and, proud to say, as far from a facist neo-con as one can get. I simply say that SNS's statement is ridiculous and you make a bunch of false assumptions about me. Wake up and smell the menudo mijo. What is it that causes you to make those assumptions?
Could it be you've been brainwashed by the same neo-lib extremeists who have hijacked our party, and you espouse the same views as them without even thinking before you speak.
When the standard tactic of our party leaders is to send the message that anybody who believe's America is the greatest country on earth is a neo-con, we are in trouble. You are NO different than those on the other side of the aisle who label those who speak out against policies they disagree with as "America bashers".
You, pendejo, are a hypocrite, and it's mamoso's like you who give us a bad name.

ALRATO
Stupid Fucker Fascist Neo-Con DEMOCRAT

Anonymous said...

Who is really Mr. Escargot could it be our cholo spokesman aka

Marty With The Wet Pantalones
Big Transvestite Betty
How many names can the old cholo invent.

A Gay Caballero from the CDC

melba said...

America is once again struggling to atone for slavery and its aftermath.

In a nation with an unquenchable need to analyze its racial past, there is now a fresh flow of contrition from public officials for the many wrongs of U.S. history.

Inspired by a resolution apologizing for slavery that Virginia legislators passed last month, black lawmakers in Georgia said Thursday they plan to introduce a similar measure there. Maryland and Missouri also are discussing an apology. And so far, a white Memphis congressman has gathered 36 co-sponsors for a bill that, if passed, would bring an apology to the federal level.
March 9, 2007
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17522875/

White Bread you come on this blog like a vulger pig, and you owe me and my people an apology you trailer trash rufian.

Anonymous said...

the la media really has a long way to go before they can be considered an unbiased source for news,,
former gangster

Anonymous said...

SV VBS talking about the VBS homies said…….
“LE claims to have had a near 100% conviction rate on these indictments. And that's true to a certain degree. The fact is that upon seeing how the court had shot down motion after motion, and seeing how the burden of prove was some how shifted to the defense. Most homeboys decided to take deals of a few years instead of risking life sentences. Waiting for an appeal to go through would have taken more years than what most homies got. The homies that took it all the way really had no choice.”




Your homies made several choices
1) a choice to be dealing drugs
2) a choice of killing young girl (Martha Puebla) who might be witness
3) a choice to kill a cop and then put a green-light on other cops.

So let me get my crying towel out for your homies; boo, hoo, hoo, boo, hoo, hoo, OK I am done crying now. Your poor innocent cholo homies are in jail for a long time. Do you have their names and prison mailing address, I want to send all your homies a sympathy card.

Let us all here on Wally’s blog be their new Pen Pals. I’m sure Don Culo and SNS would love to be their newest pen-pals, Don Culo and SNS really understand how all the cholos are victims of our fascist and corrupt government. I am sure they would love to put some money in their books to file and appeal of their convictions. Let us all really show some gangster love and respeto and not just talk and complain here. SNS and Don Culo what do you think of my idea? You two should lead the charge to free the VBS victims. Let me get my crying towel again, boo, hoo, hoo, boo, hoo, hoo.

Rage Against The Machine

Jim said...

Anonymous say,
Who is really Mr. Escargot could it be our cholo spokesman aka

Marty With The Wet Pantalones
Big Transvestite Betty
How many names can the old cholo invent.

A Gay Caballero from the CDC


Undubitably-
Hey "stoopid", finally getting smart in your old age Eh?
You are the last one to figure it out huh?

You forgot,
Conchita
vito
Lars
Mars
Ezekiel Jenkins
Wallista Tribune
Kansonian Mule Dispatch
Sammy Wing
Confucious
SanFer
and a couple I want to keep to myself.
Thnx for reading Pal.
Saludos to El General DQ

Anonymous said...

To the Stupid Fucker Fascist Neo-Con DEMOCRAT,

Welcome to Wally’s world, where anybody who does NOT think that the U.S. government is the evil empire and all the cholos in jail are poor innocent victims of our corrupt government is labeled;

Fascist
Racist
Xenophobe
Gay (I think the ex-cons still remember their prison days)
Mexican Hater (also applies if you are a Mexican who does not embrace the cholo lifestyle)
Mexican Spokesman
Race Trader
Token Mexican
And many other stupid names

So jump on the train and hold tight because you are in for a wild ride. And it always confuses the old cholos when one more Mexican jumps on the train. Bienvenido a otro latino aquĆ­ en el mundo de los Cholos locos.

Call me any of the above names

Gava Joe said...

Did I hear correct on this morning's news that Monster Cody was busted? I mean what's the world coming to when a truly reformed 8 trey crip commits grevious assault and chief bratton has the audacity to put him on the "Ten Most Wanted" gangmember list? Shows to go you ca'nt trust law enforcement these days.

Ah well, when I heard the news I called Kate up at 281 Liquors and had her put me back a keg of Tecate. Me an the boys are gonna be down at the dam drinkin and mourning the recent loss of Ol Monster Cody.. R.I.P. dipshit!! HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa......

Anonymous said...

No shit brother. These pendejo's have obviously been indoctrinated by some grimgo college professor who has the "I hate America because my forefathers fucked up"
syndrome. Perhaps if they listened to the old timers who came to this country and made something of themselves, and most of their familia was doing well because of the examples they set and the work ethic that was handed down, they would be better off.

Anonymous said...

ALRATO
SV VBS said:

PS. Old Timer you should stop calling men "mijos". It makes you sound gay.

SV VBS, is that the best you got?
That's weak young one. When all else fails and you get put in check, I guess you can pull out the joto card. Since the other cards didn't work, and you are shown to be the young misinformed
hater that you are, I guess it's simply time to pull another card out of the deck. Try rebutting my
argument instead of throwing out insults concerning peripheral subjects. The old timers on this blog see past your pedo, and it only makes it crystal clear when you start the name calling because you got nothing else to come back with.
Stupid Fucker Facist Neo-Con DEMOCRAT Gay sounding old timer

Anonymous said...

Monster Cody was wearing a corn-roll wig and riding a bike when he got popped. I've never heard of a gangster being such a big b1tch that he would hide behind a wig and ride a bike at his age. Typical reject gangster. 8-treys should green light that moron. :)

Anonymous said...

According to the LA Times, it seems that CVTF is now calling shots in San Fernando Valley ...lol. The TImes need to get better sources.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
"Your homies made several choices."

I agree, and believe me none of my homies expect, need, or want any sympathy. They'll take care of business and make more choices when they get out. By the way many will start to come out next year. I hope that your not disappointed.

****

Old timer I can't believe that you are still at it. I have stated that I made a mistake and read your post out of context. What else do you want me to say? Now you are the one that has taken my comments out of context. The part about neo-cons calling anyone that speaks out against this president "America haters" was directed at crazy right-wingers. It was a generalized comment that a person with the immense understanding and knowledge that you claim to profess should have understood.

The confusion that caused this whole spat comes from the fact that people don't get a handle and stick to it. One vato questioned my loyalty and I responded. It was obvious that he was a Repub. and that he still backs this president. I can respect a conservative and might even agree on one or two of their views. But for me, to still support this administration is to be a fascist neo-con. In my view people don't have to wrap themselves in the flag to be patriotic. I believe that it is more patriotic to question our leaders and to not give them free reign of the country.

As for the joto card, well if it doesn't bother you to call men "mijos" keep doing it. I was just bringing it to your attention cause it really does sound gay.

ALRATO
SV VBS

Anonymous said...

SV VBS said: It was a generalized comment that a person with the immense understanding and knowledge that you claim to profess should have understood.

I never claimed to have immense understanding and knowledge. I never even said I was smart.

Backhanded compliment or sarcasm?
Either way you once again make statements based on assumptions.
Perhaps someday you will learn.

ALRATO
Stupid Fucker Fascist Neo-Con Gay sounding Old Timer who claims immense understanding and knowledge

Anonymous said...

A little sarcasm is what it was.

We have all made assumptions here in Wallyworld, even you. Maybe we will all learn not to make them one day, don't you agree? We don't have much to debate about since we kind of agree on many things.

I hope that this puts to rest our little spat and moves us into something else that is more progressive and fruitful.
ALRATO
SV VBS

PS. Did you check out the site that posted up?

Anonymous said...

SV VBS SAID......

"I agree, and believe me none of my homies expect, need, or want any sympathy. They'll take care of business and make more choices when they get out."


What did you mean by that comment about taking care of business? Do your homies have some type of small business? I do not really understand. Are you telling us your homies still have a green-light on cops and will continue doing their drug dealing?

Will we be reading about the same VBS homies being arrested again, I want to get the chismes here first.

Wally's blog is bien chignon.

Alrato Vatos Locos

Anonymous said...

"YES I KNOW ABOUT THE CAPS LOCK BUT THIS VIEJITO IS LOSING HIS VISION, SO DESCULPE. ANYWAYS I REALLY WANTED TO CLARIFY ON THE WHITE FENCE ISSUE ON WHERE THE BARRIO STARTED, SO HERE GOES- WHITE FENCE WAS STARTED AROUND WABASH AND EVERGREEN UP TO WABASH AND ALMA IN BOYLE HEIGHTS BUT THIS AREA IS FAR AWAY FROM THE BOYLE HEIGHTS OF EUCLID AND LORENA, THIS AREA WAS IN FACT THE BARRIO OF EAST SIDE LOS NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH THE BARRIO EAST LOS WHICH WAS ANOTHER HOOD, SO WHITE FENCE WAS ORIGINALLY IN WABASH NEXT TO CITY TERRACE, AND THE VARRIOS NEXT TO IT WERE DUNDAS STREET LOCOS, THAT WHOLE AREA WAS TAKEN OVER LATER BY JUAREZ MARAVILLA AND WHITE FENCE STARTED UP AGAIN IN BOYLE HEIGHTS AREA OF WHITTIER BLVD, LORENA AND EUCLID WHICH IS NOW THE PRESENT DAY CERCO BLANCO THE HOLE, THE ORIGINAL CLIKA ON WABASH WAS THE MONSTROS, IF YOU KNOW ANYONE FROM EAST SIDE LOS YOU CAN ASK THEM AND THEY WILL TELL YOU THAT WHITE FENCE TOOK OVER THERE VARRIO WHEN THEY DIED OUT AROUND 1970, I STILL KNOW ONE VATO FROM ESL HIS PLACA IS NEGRO AND THIS VATO IS IN HIS 50S AND HAS BEEN LOCKED UP SINCE HE WAS 16 FOR TAKING A RAP AS A JUVINILE, HE WAS SENTENCED TO 3 YEARS AND CAUGHT A MUERTE IN Y.A AND WAS TRANSFERED TO LA PINTA AND GIVEN NATURAL LIFE, MOST OF ESL GANG MEMBERS KIDS JOINED IN THE VARRIO CERCO BLANCO SINCE THIS WAS THE NEW HOOD IN THE AREA, IF ANYONE KNOWS THE WHEREABOUTS OF NEGRO IN THE SYSTEM POST IT OR IF YOU HAVE MET HIM DOING TIME, HIS REAL NAME IS JOSE CHAVARRIA, OR IF YOU KNOW HIS PRIMO A YOUNGSTER FROM KING KOBRAS HIS NAME WAS DAVID CHAVARRIA AKA BUKKY.ALRATO "

Damn Ese your like a fucken novel, mixing truth with fiction que no?

You got one thing right, we did take over "East Side Los" which was the original varrio behind Stevenson Jr High on the calles og Spence, Sabina, Lanfranco etc. East Side Los was now whwere near Walbash and never where. You also got the years fucked up too homie. We took over around 80/81.

Now to set the record straight from the mouth of a true Cerquero. We have always been and will remain in our original stomping grounds, which started was between Lorena/4th/Euclid/Whittier. This was and still remains the heart of the varrio. To be excact the orginal hangout was outside La Purrisima Church which is on Concord/Euclid. This was the foundation for the varrio period. The first name to identify the homie in the neighborhood was La Purissima Crowd. It then went to The Commandos/White Fence/The Fence. The Monsters started up in the same place not on no fucken Walbash ese. My familia has been here since 1942. Later on we exxpanded down the hill towards Soto and took over El Hoyo Soto's varrio. Now we go from Indiana to Boyle. We have always and still do have dedicated homeboys who lived outside the varrio. There was a few homeboys who were living in the Walbash area in the 60s/70 but that was not out roginal area. Just like we have homeboys living in Hollywood, Bell Gardens, Alhambra,Las Vegas,El Monte,Onterio,Palmdale etc. Thats just how it goes....EAST SIDE WHITE FENCE THE HOLE LOCOS,LOS SPIDERS,THEE MALOS,TINY LOC'S,ALLEY LOCOS,LOS CDKS,MONSTER TOWN, THE MIDGETS,LOS PWEES,THEE TERMITES,CRAZY CHERRIES,MONSTRO LOCOS,THE HILL,THE TINIES TILL THE WHEELS FALL OFF 1930'S STYLE

SOY P'NUT LOCO WF.THLS

Anonymous said...

p-nut loc.
if that vato failed to mention "La Purisima Crowd".. and failed to make a point on the role that the catholic church played with the orginal WF Families....THen that's when I knew he was some stupid old timer talking out of his ass.

Rage Against Your Madre.
:)

Anonymous said...

qvo homies at in the hat, now that the filtering is off its on,,, nah i think its lame when fools come on here to talk hella smack, especially on fools that just mosey in and post a legitamate comment, anyways about the cerco blanco theyre one of the main barrios in el paso texas, together with hacienda heights,, which is weird because hh was never that deep in LA to begin with, also white fence is around in guatemala believe it or not, 18st and mara are the biggest ones but white fence is around a little in guate, but as far as the oldest barrio in los, it came as shock to me to find out temple and clanton where some of the first hoods, i always thought eastlos was the og barrios, but when i thought about it los angeles was actually founded around downtown and the west side, and it is already known that eastlos at that time was russians and jews and armenians and what not, so where was the raza that had been here since the spanish days, in westlos, clanton, alpine street, i heard a crazy story that cinco y loma was the og LA hood, but i just dont know though, its interesting to find out how many barrios used to be around that disappeared though, like east side los, or hoyo soto, or i heard of one that used to be near to avenues called barbarians, and sacred reich, i heard that at one point in the early 80s alot of the og hoods were hitting hard times and starting to die out, and now almost 30 years later not only did they not die out but actually got stronger than ever, what someone should post is all the major hoods that got kliked up with other hoods, i know 18 alone must have like ten, or all the crews that joined hoods too, alright peeps thats all for now alrato,,,
former gangster

Old Xicano said...

To anyone who wants a readers digest condensed history of our mexican history.

Even a brief gang history and stats.

http://www.xispas.com/opinion/xhistory.htm

Anonymous said...

SV VBS said:

"Neo-con, you're right I fucked up. I read your post wrong, despensa. My answer to your question is a NO. But I do believe that we will be better off when your boy in the white house is gone. The vato and his administration have really fucked things up. The amazing thing is that this guy still has ANY supporters left."

How is Bush fucking things up? Just because he took the fight to the front doorstep of those ragheads don't mean he's messing up, of course, unless you're reading off the liberal talking points. This Mexican supports Bush, you should just consider yourself lucky that he doesn't go after your gang of cop-killing chuntaros. Viva Bush!!!


BTW, this is not neo-con...

Anonymous said...

SAO PAULO, Brazil (AP) -- President Bush on Friday denied charges that the United States under his leadership has ignored Latin America's poverty and problems. "That may be what people say but it's certainly not what the facts bear out," Bush said. "We care about our neighborhood a lot."
Bush's eighth trip to the region was widely viewed locally as a counter to efforts by the president's nemesis, Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, to use his vast oil wealth to court allies. After Brazil, Bush goes to Uruguay, Colombia, Guatemala and Mexico.

Anonymous said...

BTW, this is not neo-con...

How has he fucked things up? Are you serious? Look man if are one of the 30% that still support this guy then all that I can say is that you're a die hard. Nothing that I say will convince you to change your mind. But I will ask you to really think about your support for him.

I wont try to convince you but I will say that we should have concentrated on only one target. The raghead in the mountains of Afghanistan. Why haven't we caught him? Could it have something to do with the fact that we are stuck in the quagmire that is Iraq?

Most importantly what about the way that this guy has used fear to take away our constitutional rights. That's the main reason that even the old time Goldwater conservatives have dropped their support for him? I really hope that you take a serious look at what this guy and his buddies have done to our country. Good luck.
ALRATO
SV VBS

Anonymous said...

SV VBS said:

"Why haven't we caught him? Could it have something to do with the fact that we are stuck in the quagmire that is Iraq?

Most importantly what about the way that this guy has used fear to take away our constitutional rights."

What quagmire? Are you talking about the quagmire that the liberal media keeps trying to shove down our throats day after day? This is the same liberal mentality that lost the war in Vietnam to the tune of thousands of innocent southern Vietnamese who otherwise would have been saved if not for your beloved "Hanoi" Jane and company.

What constitutional rights have you lost, aren't your VBS homies still out there exterminating each other? Viva Bush!!!

Anonymous said...

Chale carnal, I told you that you were too much of a diehard to change. The problem is staring you in the face and you are still blind to it. Has history not showed you anything? You are aware that history has a tendency to repeat itself right? You should read about the British experience in Iraq at the fall of the Ottoman empire. You will see that our politicos are using pretty much the same play book. And that more than likely we will have the same results.

"This is the same liberal mentality that lost the war in Vietnam to the tune of thousands of innocent southern Vietnamese who otherwise would have been saved if not for your beloved "Hanoi" Jane and company."

Saved from what? The communist red scare that would for sure topple all of the democratic Asian countries in what was called the "Domino Effect". Or were they saved from further carpet bombing and poisoning of them and THEIR land with agent orange?

Look man I believe in freedom and democracy. And I also believe that any and all people have the right to determine their own countries future. The way I see it, no matter how much I disagree for our reasons for being there. I believe that our troops mission has been completed, and that we should bring them home. The Iraqis are the only ones that can decide what their future will be. Having our troops referee a civil war serves no purpose.

Maybe you don't mind being spied on by big brother or losing your right of Habeas Corpus. But to me those are basic rights that Americans have to protect and not allow our government to take away. To allow such a thing will only lead to an abuse of power.
ALRATO
SV VBS

Anonymous said...

SV VBS said:

"Saved from what? The communist red scare that would for sure topple all of the democratic Asian countries in what was called the "Domino Effect"."


The only "domino effect" in Asian countries these days is that of democracy and capitalism. We won't even get into Reagan and his toppling of communist Russia and the "Berlin Wall". These landmark world events would have never taken place with liberal "chicken littles" like you in power.

Also, may I ask why an enlightened individual like yourself still claims a stupid gang (VBS) that kills other human beings, mainly Mexicans, for no good apparent reason? Maybe you should put out the fire in your own back yard before you try to preach to Bush, don't be a hypocrite. Viva Bush!!!

Anonymous said...

What constitutional rights have you lost, aren't your VBS homies still out there exterminating each other? Viva Bush!!!

VIVA BUSH? WHAT A FUCKIN RETARD.GOT AN HOUR OR SO TO READ THE LIST OF ABUSES OF POWER OF BUSH AND HIS CRONIES? YOUR IGNORANCE MUST BE BLISS. I AM NOT SO BLESSED. THIS COCKSUCKER AND HIS ASSOCIATES ARE RUNNING ROUGHSHOD OVER THE CONSTITUTION EVERY DAY, SPYING ON OUR CITIZENS, LABELING ANYONE THAT DOESN'T AGREE WITH THEIR POLICIES AS UNPATRIOTIC. NOW THAT I THINK ABOUT IT-WTF? I THINK WE HAVE THE AG COMMENTING ON HERE NOW-IS THAT YOU YOU LITTLE BUSH LOVING TEXICAN?

Anonymous said...

"The only "domino effect" in Asian countries these days is that of democracy and capitalism."

I agree that most Asian countries are now firmly in the capitalist camp. But don't mistake capitalism for democracy. They aren't the same. The vast majority of these Asian countries are very far from being democracies. Many of them hold their citizens in a state of virtual slavery. Your party has allowed the same thing to happen in the Mariana Islands. Tom Delay knows these US territories very well.

I don't agree that Reagan had that much to do with the collapse of communism. I mean all that he had to do was to out spend the Soviets. The training and equipping of the ragheads in Afghanistan to fight the Soviets was the most logical thing to do. Nothing special, only part of the tit for tat game that the US had forced the Soviets into many years before Reagan was even on the scene. The Soviets just happened to go bankrupt on Reagans watch and he got the credit for it.

You ask me a very good question, one that is very hard for me to answer. But I'll try my best to explain in the quickest and easiest way. For all intends and purposes I'm just a regular guy. I don't use drugs, I don't even smoke. I'm not out there gangbanging or doing anything illegal. I work hard to support my family. But I have a past life that took me too far into the madness. And even though I have left it behind, my name has to remain in good standing just in case some unexpected thing were to ever happen. That's as simplest answer that I can give to a very complicated question.
ALRATO
SV VBS

Anonymous said...

"VIVA BUSH? WHAT A FUCKIN RETARD.GOT AN HOUR OR SO TO READ THE LIST OF ABUSES OF POWER OF BUSH AND HIS CRONIES? YOUR IGNORANCE MUST BE BLISS. I AM NOT SO BLESSED. THIS COCKSUCKER AND HIS ASSOCIATES ARE RUNNING ROUGHSHOD OVER THE CONSTITUTION EVERY DAY, SPYING ON OUR CITIZENS, LABELING ANYONE THAT DOESN'T AGREE WITH THEIR POLICIES AS UNPATRIOTIC. NOW THAT I THINK ABOUT IT-WTF? I THINK WE HAVE THE AG COMMENTING ON HERE NOW-IS THAT YOU YOU LITTLE BUSH LOVING TEXICAN?"

I'm not from Texas. Also, just because you know how to push the caps lock key does not mean you're right. Viva Bush!!!

Anonymous said...

SV VBS said:

"And even though I have left it behind, my name has to remain in good standing just in case some unexpected thing were to ever happen. That's as simplest answer that I can give to a very complicated question."

You want to know how I know you're full of it? Okay, I'll tell you. Because there is no reason in the whole world for you to sign off on your posts with "SV VBS". Are your ex-homies checking up on this blog to make sure that you are still representing? You're funny, nonetheless, I wish you the best in making a better life for yourself and your family.

Anonymous said...

"You want to know how I know you're full of it? Okay, I'll tell you. Because there is no reason in the whole world for you to sign off on your posts with "SV VBS"."

Have you been around this site for awhile? If you have, you would have seen me say that I'm new to this computer blogging. I had never done it till I found this site. When I first posted, it was to correct the story that WALLY had posted on my barrios history. I will admit that in my first post I let my passions get away a little and I came out wrong, but what I have stated are the facts. Also in that post I signed off SV VBS so I have just kept doing it so that people know who I am.

You know this site has really captivated my attention. Aside from the constant tit for tat type of stuff that goes on here. There is always that attempt to understand this evil phenomenon. Everyone has an opinion, and to a certain degree everyone has a valid point. But our differences keep us from coming up with a good solution. All the while this madness keeps ruining young peoples lives.

LE doesn't trust ex-cons. Ex-cons don't trust LE. And nobody trusts the fuckin politicians. But we have to let bygones be bygones and work together on this problem. In my point of view CIS was doing a good job and should be a model for other similar programs. There just has to be more over site as to where it is the money truly ends up. There will always be people that will let their greed get over on them and abuse their positions. But that's human it's part of our internal flaws. The seven deadly sins of humanity will always haunt us.
ALRATO
SV VBS