You might have read that Eduardo Arellano Felix was just sentenced to 15 years in the Feds for his role as money launderer for the AFO. A full on medical doctor, he was responsible for administering the finances of the AFO. So what's next?
If history is any indication of the future, he'll land in Florence or Sandstone and join the other DTO operators, Jihadi terrorists, Mafia bosses and, of course, the Big Homies. And then the fun starts.
Having interviewed people who have been in those places, an awful lot of friendships are formed in these Federal prisons between people who might not have ever met on the outside. Information is exchanged. War stories are told. They start playing the usual game of "Hey do you know (insert criminal name here?"
Eventually, inevitably and with a high degree of probability, policy decisions are floated, ideas are sent up the flagpole to see who'll salute and the seeds for the evolution of criminal enterprises are planted.
What could possibly go wrong?
Tuesday, August 20, 2013
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This Cartel stuff moves at an exponentially faster pace than Eme politics. Where the Eme may experience a turnover in members over the course of decades, these cartels gain and lose leaders on a yearly basis for the most part. Also, i think the sureno army grew in part because Hollywood glamorized the cholo's from LA as the epitome of the mexican badass mexican guy, and so it became fashionable to become a sureno. Now that Hollywood is glamorizing Paisas and cartel members, anybody wishing to be a bad guy, will aim for the sky (cartel member). The Barrio Aztecas/La linea have also made a big name for themseves due the violence they are committing. In colnclusion, the Eme is no longer the premier organization it once was. I think their efforts to co-opt other prison gangs in the Feds had less to do with consolidating power, then trying to hang onto it. Paisas used to want to be surenos, but surenos now work for the paisas, so go figure that one out. The Eme's days as the premier criminal organization in the US, is experiencing, the beginning of the end. Mostly because gang recruits have equally (maybe not in CA) powerful gangs to choose from and mexicans are everywhere. I think Nevada Mexicans are starting a push towards expelling surenos and having their own local gangs run their show.
Interesting analysis. This is one of scenarios that may play out in the future. It will interesting to see how the hybridization will evolve. Thanks for your thoughts.
Is the EME a dominant organization inside Federal Prsion? You hear about all these hispanic prison all over the US and it makes me think how powerful are these guys really? In California were they "RUN SHIT" they've never been able to eliminate there arch rival Nuestra Familia.
"Paisas used to want to be surenos, but surenos now work for the paisas." True, but once Cartel members are in the Southern playgrounds(CDC or Feds), guess who will be calling the shots.
It will be a Griselda Blanco/Charles Cosby, Freeway Rick/Oscar Danilo Blandon, and Waterhead Bo Bennett/Mario Ernesto Villabona-Alvarado type relationship with the exception that if they ever try to cut out the eme, there will probably greenlight Piasas I believe. Just speculating.
"Paisas used to want to be surenos, but surenos now work for the paisas." True, but once Cartel members are in the Southern playgrounds(CDC or Feds), guess who will be calling the shots.
"It will be a Griselda Blanco/Charles Cosby, Freeway Rick/Oscar Danilo Blandon, and Waterhead Bo Bennett/Mario Ernesto Villabona-Alvarado type relationship with the exception that if they ever try to cut out the eme, there will probably greenlight Piasas I believe. Just speculating."
even in Wally's book, he talks about how Pee Wee had to take drew street back from the paisas who were smashing and stabbing avenues gang members, until they got it together. Part of the Eme's power is that everyone has to go to jail and will eventually have to settle up. Some of these paisas don't care about dying as evidenced by the snuff videos where they don't even flinch as their heads get severed, so what the Eme can do to them, pales to what a Zeta, CDG, CDS, CT, BL would do to them. Now the Eme is at a disadvantage in that they shy away from killing innocents, while the cartels don't. A EME can order you whacked, if you land in jail. a cartel boss can send a hit team to kill your family here in the USA, and in Mexico, while you sit in solitary confinement. it goes both ways, the cartel could tell the EME, you get our guy in there, we'll wipe out your whole family out here, and they have the resources to do it. i think the Eme loses that battle of wills
Zeta hit squads probably scared and worked on some Texas/Arizona gangs, but here in LA if they tried some tactics like that it would probably backfire. Cartels not doing business with the Eme would probably offer to step in and offer their squads, better deals etc, as long as only their work was moved instead and anyone(Gang) moving Cartel's work that fell out of Eme approval would probably get greenlighted. People could act like that is nothing to fear when they are out here on the streets, but to their homeboys in the system its panic time, making phone calls immediately trying to fix things.
Respectfully, just speculating.
"People could act like that is nothing to fear when they are out here on the streets, but to their homeboys in the system its panic time, making phone calls immediately trying to fix things."
The problem there is that kingpins don't mix with GP and thus are out of reach of the Surenos and Eme. Also, Its two different cultures, where a sureno is probably raised to shun authorities and protective custody. Paisas work with authorities all the time by providing info on rivals (its the culture of their crime)and also probably don't have the same aversion to PC as the surenos. One person was killed at Florence (Tati) and he was in GP with other Emeros and AB..Unless your delusional, the Eme's reach doesn't extend into the ADMAX or a PC Yard....proof of that is the tons of former EME's and 25 ers on pc yards...the drug lords could easily maintain themselves out reach by doing what they do, talking to authorities, even if just to say, i'm in danger, move me somewhere safe, and walla, just like that, OUT of Reach...and still have the resources to take out the opposing team...face it, the cholo from LA, has been replaced as the ultimate mexican bad ass, by a head chopping, devil worshiping, mass murdering, million dollar generating paisa in fatigues and a big gun! heck, the main reason the surenos blew up, is because of all the paisas that swelled their ranks because they wanted to be the ultimate bad ass...those recruits have a new hero and it aint some dude in jail doing life.
I think another thing to take into consideration is that paisas don't dare to do same things in the us as they do in mex mostly because of the heat they would bring to them selves so why is it? Then that eme still tries to tax dope dealers on a everyday basis.... Paisas won't dare to even try to tax in us territory.... It's real easy to commit horrendous crimes when you know you have almost total impunity but when it comes to doing it in the us it's a whole different ball game that paisas don't want to fuck with but yet eme does or at least tries every day...... Ask any one that's been in the lifestyle and they will tell you how in the us most paisas will let debts slide no matter how high if the person that owes them is coneccted in any way to eme. There are rare cases where paisas grow some balls but then even then they reach to a higher power, take for example that fool that owns the número UNO supermarkets in Los, Some one tried to tax him and the paisa ran and paid tribute to some one that had higher standing, most people think he went straight to Sammy from arta, a veteran eme brother and had the fool that was trying to tax him killed just to prove his point. But he knew he couldn't have his own crew do it. Too many people would have known and he couldn't just walk away for his business. Now this was just over 4 years ago and it goes to show that even if you are deep in the game you will have to mind some one eventually if you are working in Cali.
(((((Hollywood glamorized the cholo's from LA as the epitome of the mexican badass mexican guy, and so it became fashionable to become a sureno. Now that Hollywood is glamorizing Paisas and cartel members, anybody wishing to be a bad guy, will aim for the sky (cartel member))))
Maybe a border brother will identify with these so-called mexicanos but Chicanos identify with fellow Chicanos! They won't turn down Mexican dope but cholos have their gang culture and Paisas have thiers. In the United States, it's the Paisas who want to be like us and not the other way around. Now if I moved to Tijuas or another part of Mejico, maybe I would look to be like them but I think you have it wrong.
East L.A. Dude
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