WHO RUNS THE JAILS?
The public and media reaction to the jail riots finally got a dose of reality last night when I heard for the first time the magic words -- Mexican Mafia. To regular readers of this site, it's no big surprise. We know who runs the jails and the prisons. It's not the jailers. For anybody who's been in the system or is familiar with it, COs and deputies aren't much more than referees. The real power resides in the SHUs and it's about time that the rest of world starts to realize it.
There are a few simple truths that the media, politicians and social activists don't seem to get. One is that most of the "rioters" don't want to riot. But the reality is that once you're in the system, it's almost impossible to lay low and just do your program. The shot callers won't let you. When the call goes out, you either clique up and get with their program or you'll find yourself completely isolated with a target on your back for not having any heart. It's a no win situation for the "average" inmate.
The other reality most don't get is that even relocating the shot callers to Alaska isn't going to stop their influence. As long as they can make a call, pass a kite or get a letter out through an attorney, they'll continue to exert their influence. There's no getting around that. So it's laughable when you hear calls for isolating the "bad apples" (I actually heard some knucklehead use that term on TV) to reduce their influence.
And then of course, there's the call to put more deputies on the tiers. That won't work either. At least, not completely. There will never be enough deputies to keep people who want to assault or kill from doing exactly what they want.
Maybe the nuttiest response to the riots was articulated by Ramona Ripston from the ACLU. She blamed "this Congress and this President." Remember this is the same group that demanded desegregation of the prisons, a move that provides written assurance that more inmates will be killed. It's hard to know if the ACLU wants to solve the problem or make it even worse.
If there's any good that can possibly come from this is that it may make some little homie decide not to do things that could land him in jail. As bad as things may be on the street, it's nothing like th hell of being locked up.
Thursday, February 09, 2006
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TODAYS L.A. TIMES --
Antonovich was particularly critical of the department's practice of housing high-security inmates in dormitories, rather than in secure cells.
"The current environment of mixing gang members with non-gang members is equivalent to giving matches to a child. Hard-core gang members shouldn't be in a dormitory environment," he said.
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Four strangers travelled together in the same compartment of a
European train. Two men and two women faced each other.
One woman was a very wealthy and sophisticated 70 year old lady who
was decked out in the finest of furs and jewelry. Next to her sat a
beautiful young woman, nineteen yrs. old--who looked like something
right off the cover of a fashion magazine. Across from the older
lady was a very mature looking man in his mid-forties who was a highly
decorated Sergeant Major in the Army. And next to the Sergeant
Major sat a young private fresh out of boot camp.
As these four strangers travelled, they talked and chatted about
trivial things until they entered an unlighted tunnel, and there they
sat in complete darkness and total silence, until the sound of a
distinct kiss broke the silence; following the kiss a loud slap could
be heard throughout the cabin.
In the ensuing period of silence the four strangers sat quietly with
their own thoughts. The older lady was thinking, "Isn't it wonderful
that even in this permissive day and age there are still young women
who have a little self-respect and dignity?"
The young woman, shaking her head and greatly puzzled, asked
herself, "Why in the world would any man in his right mind want to
kiss an old fossil like that when I'm sitting here?"
The Sergeant Major, rubbing his sore face, was outraged that any
woman could ever think that a man in his position would try to sneak a
kiss in the dark.
And the private, grinning from ear to ear, was thinking, "What a
crazy and mixed up world this is when a private can kiss the back of his
hand and then smack a Sergeant Major in the face and get away
with it!"
Eme has always been around but, there presence has become alot stronger over the past decade(They are heavy in my region). When I was doing "my thing" the "Carnals" from my neighborhood didn't stay out long, maybe 6 months and they were busted again. Now at least in my neighborhood "The Big Homies" are staying out longer but, things are still getting handled(taxing, dealing,enforcing,hits).Plus I have seen "Carnals" from our Varrio come from out of state(like from the midwest) when things are getting out of hand to set things straight.
There influence on the youngsters have always been strong but, they are effectively recruiting them on the streets now before they even go to "THE BAY" (they are not becoming righteous members) but, they are grooming them for when they go to or back to the joint. I am only 24 so alot of my friends are barely starting to "Graduate" to the next level but, every time they come home they are all about "being in the mix". Four of my friends who have just got out over the past 2 years all say the same thing, "Fuck the dumb shit if I am gonna do something it is gonna be for the Big Homies". They all want to earn their stripes and be recognized for putting in work on behalf of La Eme. Two of them are 24 one is 26 and the other is 29, plus from my neighborhood we got a bunch of other dudes "Down for the Cause" on the street and busted. From what I can see Eme's arm is getting long,I bet they felt like it was time to start their movement in the streets.
It is crazy to actually see it grow so fast to me it seemed La Eme is in fast forward(making much progress) now we just have to wait and see if they are able to accomplish their goals.
"Youngster with Game"
Jose619 said...
I would like to thank you all for the insight into what's going on. My question, if anyone can answer,is what happened to the O.G's of the greenlight gangs that were involved with La Eme? Since their neighborhoods defected, were they booted and/or stripped of brotherhood? I am assuming that there had to be a large number of Maravillas, 18, Lowell, etc. that were asociates of the Eme at one time or another, so what happened? Any insight would be helpful. As well, can anyone elaborate on the R-60 and Florencia 13 robbery? Thanks.
DONT KNOW MUCH,BUT LOWELL
GOT INTO THE MONGOLSmc,AND HANGOUT WITH HAPPY VALLEY,THEY COULDN'T TAKE THE HEAT,SO THEY GOT OUT OF THE KITCHEN!!LOL!!...NOW THEY ARE BIKERS WITH NO BIKE!..LOL!!
NOW THEY ARE BIKERS WITH NO BIKE!..LOL!!
So are they on roller skates or what?
"There influence on the youngsters have always been strong but, they are effectively recruiting them on the streets now before they even go to "THE BAY"
"Hey youngster with game", dont be too quick to raise your hand or volunteer for anything just stay dowm for yourself and your loved ones. Look what happened to Luis "Big Homie" Maciel. He never even been to the joint but he wanted to be a gangster, he got used and abused, now he is sitting on death row, wont even come out to the yard with the real gangsters. All because he wanted to be somebody.
And on it goes! Found this on the US Corrections Officers website, I hadn't heard about it since I'm in another state at present.
To paraphrase, "Friday Feb 10, San Bernardino Sheriff's Office reported 14 black inmates slashed with razor blades smuggled onto a bus by Mexican-American inmates. The attacks occured on the "bus" transfering inmates from the "Rancho Cucamonga jail" to the San Bernardino "Central Courthouse". Three injured inmates remain hospitalized.
My question is, did anybody hear this info by a news source? Or is this kind of info being witheld to avoid "stirring the pot"?
"Youngster with Game"
Hey Don,
I checked out the daily bulletin(I.E. Rag) on the web this morning and didn't see any of that.
Does it say how they were seated because when I was on the goose they had Raza in the back with the cage shut and mayates in the front. We were tied only to our own races.
Hey JoseSan diego,
I am not sure but, I thought if your neighborhood is green lighted then the whole varrio is green lighted unless, they are a very good standing member and can't take a hands on approach to setting his neighborhood back on the right track or the "Carnal" goes out and takes care of the problem(either himself or sends associates to). Other then that they are probably "SLAMMED UP", dead, or hiding out.
"Youngster with Game"
Fuck all this bitter in fightung, seems like we're haveing a blogging roit going on que no. Fuck o'riley fuck your thoughts on and that you're stupid for thinking like that and so fucking on. Man it's even gotten to the piont when you can't even read good ol' eme piece without some vato interjecting his fouled mouth opion. Hey com'on now let's all you, FUCKING MASA HEAD COCKSUKERS GET WITH IT AND STOOP ALL THIS FUCKEN BONEHEAD SHIT!! KEEP YOOUR LOP BRAINED OPIONS TO YOURSELVES YOUR FUCKEN BALLWASHERS. Now have a good day and swell eveing.
CONDEMENED INMATES
WHO HAVE DIED
SINCE 1978
Natural Causes: 31
Suicides: 12
Other: 5
2 drug overdoses
1 heart attack after pepper
spray exposure
1 shot on exercise yard
(9/30/94)
Jimmy Palma hit on yard by EME
(10/13/97)
Pending: 1 (Stuart Alexander)
i heard a raised can get alot things done
A RAISED HAND
If eme can get all mexicans housed in the same dorm, how safe will the guards be? As of now, guards can hope to cooperation from other races against mexicans. But if its olny mexicans, they wont say peep, thats how eme has it. I just hope I can open my little taco stand and not have to pay rent to the gangs for having a store in their barrio.
ORANGE COUNTY JAIL ITS ON LOCKDOWN THE WORD IS THE SOUTH SIDERS GOT INTO IT WITH THE MAYATES FUCKEN MAYATES DIDNT KNOW WHAT THEY WHERE STARTING TOOKIE WILLIAMS MUST BE PROUD TO THESE HOW HIS SOLDIERS ARE FALLING LIKE ROACHES.
BIG SUR SIDE.
anonymous contribution bears repeating:
" FUCKING MASA HEAD COCKSUKERS GET WITH IT AND STOOP ALL THIS FUCKEN BONEHEAD SHIT!! KEEP YOOUR LOP BRAINED OPIONS TO YOURSELVES YOUR FUCKEN BALLWASHERS. Now have a good day and swell eveing."
Could'nt have said it better myself
Could'nt have said it better myself
i can
"EAT A DICK UP!" see
Where can I find some firme crack in OC?
you keep asking were you could find some crack in oc and la, hey chapete what kind of crack are you looking for you manfuck, now quit asking and sit on your suck'a.
Hey were the fuck are snoop puto and all his celebrity niggers? shit you know that they're not saying nothing in public about the shit. fuck if they fuck around and speak that nigger rules shit they gonna get cooled quick!!!
HUNDREDS OF INMATES RIOT IN SOLEDAD, SEVERAL HOSPITALIZED
02/07/06 6:25 PST
SOLEDAD (BCN)
A riot involving as many as 400 inmates broke out this afternoon at a state prison in Soledad, sending four inmates to outside hospitals, according to a prison spokesman.
The riot at the Correctional Training Facility began at approximately 2 p.m. in a section of the prison's North Facility that houses approximately 1,400 medium-security inmates, according to prison spokesman Dan Pherigo.
Four inmates were transported to local hospitals outside of the prison walls, and Pherigo said tonight he did not know their current conditions.
"They appeared stable as they left,'' he said.
The prison's North Facility is currently locked down while prison officials investigate the cause of the riot. The investigation could take more than a day, according to Pherigo.
The riot was contained by on-duty prison staff and staff from the nearby Salinas Valley State Prison. No guards or staff members were injured in the riot, Pherigo said.
Today's riot occurred one week after a riot at San Quentin State Prison that involved about 100 inmates. Twenty-seven inmates were medically treated in the wake of that riot, six for stabbing or slashing wounds, according to prison officials.
"What's going on?, and is the public not supposed now what the movida is? I got this from a "San Francisco News Source" but it seems the shit is going off all over. The comment's from the "Prison spokesman" related to this pedo was very deliberately vague, don't you think?
They're Always vague Don Q, if they do'nt have a handle on the situation .. The fact that 4 cons were sent out the hospital in Monterey Co. AWWW I see whatcher sayin Donerito. that they're "vague" as to convict pigmentation... Aha, the plot thickens, like the mole'.. Good post carnal.. Where the fuck are ya? Outta state is good nowadays methinks.. Peace
Jailhouse Violence Spreads to San Bernardino County
Steve Marshall Reporting
KNX 1070 NEWSRADIO
SAN BERNARDINO, CA (KNX) -- Violence between jail inmates has spread from Los Angeles County to San Bernardino County with reports of fights breaking out on three busses last Friday and Tuesday. Sixteen inmates were injured in the fighting in which blacks and Latinos battled with fists and razor blades. The buses were transporting inmate to various court dates.
Violence in the L.A. County system continued last night with another jailhouse dust-up at the downtown Men's Central Jail. That left four inmates injured in the latest wave of of violence that has plagued the county jail system for the past two weeks.
Yesterday, the Sheriff's Department came under criticism from an attorney retained by the county to monitor the department. Merrick Bobb took the Sheriff's Department to task for continuing to mix inmates who are predisposed to different degrees of violence.
Bobb issued a report more than a year ago citing the dangers of placing inmates of different threat levels in the same cells.
Sheriff's deputy Bill Spear announced that the county jail system remains on lockdown today, with all inmate activities, phone privileges and court appearances suspended.
Part of the lockdown process involves the segregation of inmates by race but not by gang affiliation, a practice that has come under criticism from Supervisor Mike Antonovich.
"To continue housing dangerous high-security gang members with rival gangs and non-gang inmates is like giving matches to a child -- it's deadly,'' Antonovich said yesterday.
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Here's the San Berdoo pedo that I posted about before. Again, I'm not trying to stir the pot but I'm wondering about the public's right to know the whole story.
Tengo que ir afuera
You got it Gava Joe, the shits hit the fan but I guess the public can just be behind it as far as some people care. Non- information only makes matters worse.
By the way right now I'm not far from you Joe, in nuevo mejico, and watch out cause today the wind kicked up like a motherfucker, dust and shit (tumbleweeds) blowing everywhere, and like the racial pedo in califas it's comin your way to Kansas!
A Te Watcho!
Si Yo watcho con mi magnum...
I'm wondering what Tijuas take on this is. hopefully he'll wade in.. The fact that the "handlers are segregating as to "threat levels" is their way of putting a confident lean on the masa, like they have the situation in hand..It aint so, it's a potential firestorm..
"Non- information only makes matters worse."
You got that right, as far as the innocent vatos trying to do their number and get the fug outta that madness...I recall No. facility Soledad as being a "gladiator school", plenty of young inmates, grads of Tracy and the YA system.. It was volatile, but I'm sure that all changed, or not.. What's true is that there was no need for "wilas".. LA County shipped up some first hand testifyers when they dumped Wayside like they did. The timeframe fits and they sure as hell fanned the flames into a little taste of holocaust..
Yo box up those tumbleweeds. Fatcats in Malibu are paying lg dinero for em.. And do'nt cuss the wind out here, just put a few rocks in your pockets and do'nt open your mouth upwind.. Be well.
Say a little prayer for those kids, firs-timers who maybe caughta non-violent beef and oughta been somewhere else.. I will..
In light of all the rioting going on all over the county and state I would like to point out the following. It looks like the asshole liberals at the ACLU cannot quench their thirst for American blood by putting California inmate lives at risk with their assinine inmate de-segregation lawsuit, now they are going to sabotage the lives of American troops by releasing more Abu Ghraib prison photos. As if there wasn't enough rioting going on in the middle east already. Those assholes at the ACLU are the scum of the earth. Peace...
Anonymous said...
"Hey were the fuck are snoop puto and all his celebrity niggers? shit you know that they're not saying nothing in public about the shit. fuck if they fuck around and speak that nigger rules shit they gonna get cooled quick!!!"
Snoop and Ice Cube, along with B-Real of Cypress Hill, were on Warren G's remix of "Get You Down", a song about the Black and Brown drama in L.A., where they all called for peace between the two races. I must have missed the part where Snoop said, "Niggers Rule".
L.A. County Jail System on Full LockdownMore Racial Violence
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A brawl involving about 300 inmates broke out about 8:30 p.m. Wednesday at the medium security North Facility of Pitchess Detention Center in Castaic, about 40 miles northwest of downtown Los Angeles, said sheriff's Sgt. Don Manumaleuna.
"Deputies were able to regain control of the facility, and at this time they're investigating the cause of the disturbance," he said.
The fight followed four racially motivated fights involving more than 450 black and Hispanic inmates that broke out in the afternoon at the center's east facility. A total of 19 inmates were injured in the brawls, one critically, said sheriff's Deputy Bill Spear.
Four inmates were transported to hospitals. One had a head injury and the others sustained superficial cuts. Fifteen more were treated at the facility for minor injuries. No sheriff's deputies were hurt.
The fighting began after more than 120 inmates housed inside a group dorm separated themselves along racial lines. The violence was quickly put down, but similar fights occurred in little more than an hour at three more dorms, leading deputies to fire sting balls on inmates to gain control, said sheriff's Sgt. Diane Hecht.
All seven county jails were subsequently placed on lockdown, according to sheriff's officials. The lockdown was expected to last through Thursday, Spear said.
Another section of the same detention center was the site of rioting Saturday between Hispanic and black inmates that killed one man and injured more than 100 others. It was followed by two other melees Monday night that caused one minor injury.
Investigators were looking into the cause and timing of Wednesday's fights as well as possible links to recent outbreaks of violence at the center.
In those, authorities suspect gang leaders outside the jail contacted Hispanic associates inside and directed them to attack blacks as retaliation for a recent assault in South Los Angeles.
In an interview with The Associated Press, California Corrections Secretary Roderick Q. Hickman said that his department has offered to work with sheriff's officials - whose jails often feed into the state prison system - as they investigate the weekend violence.
He said state authorities want to know what's causing the county's problems so they don't spill over into the statewide prison system.
In Central California, four inmates were hurt in fighting that began Tuesday at the California Correctional Training Facility in Soledad. That uprising prompted authorities to place a prison unit on lockdown Wednesday.
The fracas, which involved hundreds of black, Latino and white inmates, was not believed to be connected to the violence in the Los Angeles County jail, corrections spokesman J.P. Tremblay said.
VIOLENCE SPREADS TO SAN BERNARDINO
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Saturday, February 11, 2006
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(02-11) 01:59 PST Los Angeles (AP) --
Clergy have been brought in, troublemakers have been transferred and black and Hispanic inmates have been separated as county jailers worked to restore peace after a week of racially charged prison brawls.
"It's got momentum," said sheriff's Chief Marc Klugman, who oversees the nation's largest jail system. "They're battle-hardened. They're angry."
Thousands of Hispanic and black inmates clashed on Feb. 4 at the biggest of three jails at the Pitchess Detention Center complex, 40 miles outside Los Angeles. A black inmate was beaten to death and dozens of prisoners were injured.
Small brawls throughout the week occurred at the two smaller jails, including a Friday clash involving 73 inmates that took an hour to quell.
Ninety inmates have been injured and 28 remained hospitalized, Klugman said.
The violence spread to a San Bernadino County jail Friday, as 13 were hurt when inmates slashed one another with razor blades while on a bus, said sheriff's Lt. Mike Stansell.
The inmates were being transferred from the West Valley Detention Center in Rancho Cucamonga to the Central Courthouse in San Bernardino, Stansell said.
None of the injuries were life-threatening, but the fighting appeared to be racially motivated, he said.
During a separate incident, a black inmate suffered a three-inch cut on his arm during a fight with two Hispanic inmates while in a holding area at the Rancho Cucamonga courthouse, Stansell said.
Investigators said they do not know specifically what sparked the initial Feb. 4 melee. But Klugman said the fights that have broken out since then appear to be tit-for-tat retaliation by one side or the other.
Originally, investigators believed Hispanic gang leaders outside the jail ordered the first fight as retaliation for a street attack, but that proved untrue, Klugman said.
Klugman said about 80 percent of the inmates are affiliated with gangs in some way.
All of the fights appeared to be orchestrated by "shot-callers" within the jails that authorities were trying to identify and remove from the dormitories to single-man cells in a downtown jail.
It was a slow process because empty beds were hard to find and authorities wanted to make sure they didn't spread the violence, Klugman said.
All 19,000 inmates in the Los Angeles County jail system will remain on lockdown through the weekend, meaning no visits or other privileges, Klugman said.
"The momentum here will die," he said. "We are taking away privileges. They don't like that. They want their commissary, they want their classes, they want their mail. That's going to start to wear on them."
On Thursday, sheriff's officials allowed 70 clergy members to talk with inmates. Many prisoners complained about being unable to shower or call home.
Many inmates really don't want to fight, Klugman said, but risk a beating unless they stand up for their race.
Black and brown inmates also remained segregated at the jail where it all started on Feb. 4.
The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that racially separating prisoners is illegal except in extraordinary circumstances.
Klugman said sheriff's officials view the segregation as both morally and tactically unsound in the long run and don't plan to extend it to other jails or continue it for more than two weeks.
James Gilligan, a University of Pennsylvania professor and psychiatrist who directed mental health services in the Massachusetts prison system for many years, said he has been called in to help brainstorm solutions to the current round of violence.
He had not been briefed Friday afternoon but said in general, defusing prison violence involves negotiating with the ringleaders.
Ironically, Klugman said the latest violence has caused some gangs to put aside their rivalries as black inmates, who are outnumbered by Hispanics two to one, join ranks
Anonymous said...
"In light of all the rioting going on all over the county and state I would like to point out the following. It looks like the asshole liberals at the ACLU cannot quench their thirst for American blood by putting California inmate lives at risk with their assinine inmate de-segregation lawsuit, ...
now they are going to sabotage the lives of American troops by releasing more Abu Ghraib prison photos. As if there wasn't enough rioting going on in the middle east already....
Those assholes at the ACLU are the scum of the earth. Peace..."
5:27 PM
Is anyone going to jump all over this person ^^ for bringing World politics to this blog?
Hey still no script...
"el burro sabe mas que tu".
I'm sure Wally is working overtime to bring us all the angles on the LACJ riots.
///Is anyone going to jump all over this person ^^ for bringing World politics to this blog?///
chismosa! you sound like my pinchi ex-wife ..
the one I buried in Lincoln Park. nag ... nag .... nag.
Chingada madre, callate la pinchi boca y vete a la pinchi cocina!
That means we'll be appreciating those appetizers you're preparing in the kitchen ..... bitch.
Now stay out of a man's coversation and take your Neighborhood Watch down the road.
TO Supervisor Mike Antonovich OR ANY PIG READING:
YOU GUYS SOUND STUPIDS YOU DONT NEED TO SEPARATE INMATES BY GANGS BECAUSE ALL CHICANOS GANG MEMBERS BECOME ONE GANG SOUTH SIDE AND THEIR A NO HANDS ON SURENOS RULE SO YOU GUYS SHOULD MAKE SURE YOU DONT MIX THOSE DIRTY NIGGERS WITH THE SUR BEFORE THIS SHIT GOES ON TO THE STREETS AND THEN WHAT THE FUCK YOU GUYS GOING TO DO CALL THE NATIONAL GUARD.
IF AND CORRECTIONAL OFFCIER STARTED THIS FOR FUN YO GUYS DIDNT KNOW WHAT THE FUCK YOU WERE GOING.
SNOOP PUPPY DOG AND HELP YOU NOW.
WELCOME TO THE SUR SIDE.
Right wingers are all closet fags. It's been scientifically proven. There was a study done where they took a bunch of loud mouthed right wing types and showed them gay porn while measuring the hardness of their schlongs. They all got huge boners and denied it. Those guys whining about "liberals" amd ACLU or whatever likely dream of negroid cock 24/7 and will snivel and deny it the whole time.
"Right wingers are all closet fags."
THEY MUST ALL BE CHICAGO CUBS FANS!
Anonymous said...
"In light of all the rioting going on all over the county and state I would like to point out the following. It looks like the asshole liberals at the ACLU cannot quench their thirst for American blood by putting California inmate lives at risk with their assinine inmate de-segregation lawsuit, now they are going to sabotage the lives of American troops by releasing more Abu Ghraib prison photos. As if there wasn't enough rioting going on in the middle east already. Those assholes at the ACLU are the scum of the earth. Peace..."
5:27 PM
Since none of the hypocrites here take any objection to your world politics when they've made it clear to me and a few other commentors that world politics are not allowed here, allow me to point out to you that this blog is supposed to be about L.A. politics and gangs only. So, please, take your Abu Ghraib/prison photos topic elsewhere.
how about the negroid brain? Put on the black loafers and go find it.
Hey Still no Script! won't you ignore this clown like everyone else is trying to do? The poor guy is obviously lonely and rejected at home and is off his meds. He's looking for a friend, you know attention at any cost. He's like the late "Wally George" reincarnate.
Ignore him!
just out of curiosity, have any of the recent outbreaks had any effect on the prisons in neighboring states with similar inmate make-up, such as Arizona, Texas, Nevada?
and don't classify that other guy with us real women...no lemonade for you.
Lil' no script... Barney's has a sale on black loafers, put on your mothers shoes and go get some.
Don Q, I am ignoring the person making the racist comments, after allready telling them once that Snoop Dogg, along with a handful of other L.A. based, Black rappers, denounced the Black vs. Brown violence, and made a call for peace in a recently released song.
What I'm talking about is the comment where someone refers to the ACLU supposedly causing riots in the middle east due to the release of the Abu Ghraib torture photos, AND that comment going UNCONTESTED by the No-Politics nazis in here.
maravilla gang,out of control in east los angeles,after 6 gang murders in the past 42 days,apperently news report say that a (branch) of maravilla gang,known as maravillosos,are responsible for at least six gang killings around the los angeles area.gang task force are investigating the slayings of 6 non maravilla gang members....Maria Ochoa.east la.local comunity news....
"Don Q, I am ignoring the person making the racist comments, after allready telling them once that Snoop Dogg, along with a handful of other L.A. based, Black rappers, denounced the Black vs. Brown violence, and made a call for peace in a recently released song.
What I'm talking about is the comment where someone refers to the ACLU supposedly causing riots in the middle east due to the release of the Abu Ghraib torture photos, AND that comment going UNCONTESTED by the No-Politics nazis in here."
StillNoScript what the hell is wrong with you? You actually think that real Surenos, real Bloods, and real Crips are going to care what a bunch of wannabe gangster rappers have to say. They are entertainers to the real gangsters, nothing more. So you think Snoop Dogg actually cares on whats going on in the streets of Los Angeles? Hell no! That little song was only for good PR, he wants to play the reformed gangster role and a pimp on the side. But fuck that, after he burned a Mexican flag (but because that event did not happened two minutes ago people wont remember it and snoop knows it, that dog is at least that smart) there is no way he can fool this guy. That guy is rich, well only recently because this so called pimp was getting pimped hard by a gang of people for some years, fucking white girls all day. Only reason he did that song was for his image, he wants people to think he is involved in LA gangs, you know the same reason he pretended to care about the tookie issue. Those rappers can denouce black on brown violence all they want, no gangster is going to care what they have to say.
I agee I did come down on you and not the conservative, but honestly I did not see it. You got to admit,it was you and Don Q from very early on that kept this political ranting. And sucker don't call anybody a nazi. That's right I tried to talk people out of doing this liberal against conservative shit. Why? Because it is pointless. I remember you also tried to control the content of this blog. You remember when those nortenos and surenos started talking shit to eachother you wanted them to be "respectedful". You were doing the same thing I am doing, or did you forget? Let me remind you.
StillNoScript said...
"This is probably the finest blog on the web devoted to urban politics in L.A.
Let's not ruin it by turning this blog into a banging thread.
I'm certain gang members are welcome and encouraged to give ideas and input to the blog; But to take it to a level of blanketed insults, and threats against other bloggers, is just plain disrespectful to this site.
Please keep the comments focused on intellegent input. I do not want to see this site taken down; Nor, I'm sure, do any of you."
You see we wanted the same thing. The only difference is I was talkin to morons that wanted to turn this unique blog, where you can get real information that is hard to find, another one where hardcore liberals and hardcore conservatives point fingers. What? because you two groups are not as direct in your insults like Sur and Norte, you think it ain't the same mindless bullshit? So please don't call me a nazi when you do the same thing. Damn these liberals LOL.
Still no script?
Maybe it's because you come across as an arrogant, annoying, self-righteous jerk every time you stroke a key.
Serious. Shut up, listen. People are trying to have a real conversation about topics specific to this site. If you can't respect that, then I'm glad you are doomed to your crap writing skills.
You make me ashamed to be a left-winger. Unless you have something insightful to say on the topic of prison/gangs, shut up and read.
It's embarassing.
Bato with politico huevos talking shit like a younster w/game is funny as hell. you know his gava ass with motivida political aspirios talking out of his ass running his neck on this board (After being warned) continues his tom hayden rants on everyone here. Stupido gabacho keeps up runnin his neck on what carnales? These fools keep up the puro pedo by waging a media assault on carnalgas and stupid motherfucker thinks we are like BGF monkeys towing the line? This fool is writing all this bullshit, and his political leftist aspiring bato's in the newsroom ignore his puro mierda? Hey puto, masa chingon newswriter! get your facts straight! Pinche MAYATES are ignorant loud, dry rata snitch bitches. aint no press release changing that motherfucker. all you down gava lefty journalist better unfuck your shit. Rightey woods to.
This war is not about you. you folks like to praise pinta masa? you aint seen shit. Coming to a location near you.
So, instead of the NO-POLITICS NAZIS standing by their credo and coming down on the person who blamed the ACLU for the Abu Ghraib photos being released, thus for bringing world politics to an L.A. based blog, we only get MORE criticism of me.
What a bunch of hypocrites. I'm not surprised. I knew the 'no politics' plea was a crock of shit to keep the overall opinion in line with those of the elitists here.
But, just to give the benefit of the doubt? I'm going to play along. I still haven't made a political comment since the 'O Riley/sex scandal thing came up. I'm going to play by that rule (as biased as it is obviously enforced), and simply call out the people that do bring politics to the blog, and remind you guys that they are breaking the house rules.
Now, back to Snoop Dogg. I wasn't aware that Snoop burned a Mexican flag. All i found was a link that reggaeton artist Daddy Yankee was rumored to have done it, where he in fact denies the rumor here..
http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:iw8HAzm4ztEJ:www.rapstation.com/today_in_hiphop/+Snoop+Dogg,+Mexican+flag&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1
(hold left click to get full link)
I do know, however, that Snoop just did a song with Warren G, B Real of Cypress Hill, and Ice Cube about the Black/Brown violence, and what I saw was a plea for peace. Your're saying that's a p.r. trick on his part, but that's speculation that can not be proven. The bottom line is, kids can see that video or hear that song, and, just like they can be influenced by the negative lyrics in songs today, they can be inluenced by the positive lyrics in that song. I think it takes a special kind of angry, withered, and jaded human being to be critical of that and refuse to accept any positive story coming out of the Black vs. Brown drama. Perhaps you would be happier if Snoop put out a track dissing Mexicans? I'll take any positive message we can get a time like this.
SNOOP DOG AND HIS NIGER CRIMIES? C'MON GAVA? ARE YOU SO STUPID? TAKE YOUR POLITICAL CRAP AND STUFF IT WHERE THE SHINES ON GAVA JOE! THIS BOARD IS STRAIGHT OUT SNITCH MATERIAL REPORTING BY YOU POLITICAL MOTHERFUCKERS. WALLY BAN THESE HACKS PLEASE!
ain't america nice place to live>? you get all the political nazi's waving the american flag. facists go home.
Pokey from LMP is a dead man walking.
Hey Pokey? Did you FORGET your roots?
pissed off in Escondido. NLR rider.
Hey as far as I'm concerned there's nothing wrong with politics when one makes a point and has something to say. I happen to be a leftie but if a conservative has a point of veiw thats valid then I respect that. But when a point is just beaten to death and go's on and on with insults it just gets' fucking boring. bottom line! period!
Allright! now I'm going to tell you guys a true story(wink).
It was a hot summer day in East Los and the beer was cold in the El Cholo Bar,the same 5 regulars were driknking a helado, "bien contento's".
All of a sudden the door opens and into the dark room walks a beautiful Mayata, in su mini falda muy sexy, you understand this was not a "Natalie Cole" Mayata but a "Vanessa Williams" type good looking motherfucker.
All the vatos are in shock,pinche's boca's todo abierta,
checking her out. She say's to the bartender very cooly "Hey Honey can I have a Miller Beer?
The cantinero, hands shaking gives her a cold Miller's and the foxey lady chug a lugs the whole beer in a couple gulps, her eye's start rolling around and she falls out on the floor, face down, mini skirt up over her fine ass. The vato's can't believe their good fortune and being "puros manacos" they immediately throw a line on her and commit all kinds of perversions, bang her for an hour before she comes to and staggers out the door.
Next day, same time, same vatos, talking about the day before, and what chew know, in walks the same beautiful mayata, very sexy,. She looks around, walks up to the bartender and says "Hey Baby, can I have a cold "Millers beer"?
Hands shaking he hands the beauty a "Millers", again, this chick chug a lugs the whole thing and falls out on the floor, ass up in the air,"Que Suerte". The vatos can't believe the luck and like "dogs in heat" line up and have thier way with her for an hour until she wakes up and staggers out the door of the bar.
Third day, same bar, "El Cholo", same vatos, same time, and guess what? Yea! in walks the same beautiful "Chanata" looking fine!
She walks up to the bar and very sexily says "Bartender could you get me a "Budweiser" please?
All the vatos and the Cantinero look at each other puzzled.
The Bartender replies "Yea I'll get you a "Budweiser" you pretty thing you, but I thought you liked "Millers"?
"Pretty Thing" replies "No Honey, "Miller" makes my "Pussy" hurt!!
"You got to admit,it was you and Don Q from very early on that kept this political ranting. And sucker don't call anybody a nazi."
Thanks for putting this guy in his place. From here on I will refrain from any more conservative political commentary. Peace...
LOL at he "SOUTHSIDER" who writes in all caps. You act like the "SOUTHSIDE" is a gang. What are you a chola sin varrio. Your proballt from east side torratas LOL
Oh my God, "OH MY FUCKEN GOD" whats going on here? Stop your politocal shit, And your a racist and snoop shit and b-real and warren g and go fuck your mama! Whats the deal with all this undercover shit? Someone saids something that does not conicide with local blogger opiion and boom! his shit gets jumped on. But thats not whats troubling to me, its the fact that when the shit falls all these so called old time gangsters or pintos start apologizing to one another FUCK! that shit smells rank. Hey the shits all there snoop and his campaions are fuckers plain and simple and if Still No Scrip can't read between the lines about the niggers rules tip, well then oviously he's stupid, fuck it truth be told que no. Fact is the flag burning shit should have had the RAZA up in arms. But it is what it is, people like our aforementioned friend have blinders on and alot of shit goes by, fuck it thats how it is. But when you contribute here and your shit is meant with caustic critic by two or three fucks, "CARRY ON" state your fact stand by it and let the chips fall were they may. Never give in to pimplenecks, and if you , "YOU" feel your somehow wrong or misinformed its ok carry on vatos like men not like apologizing women folk or worse like sns when he butters under dq's nutsack. I say the mayates are putos and thats my stand if you don't agree fine fuck it, but thats me and its all good.
The Real Mr. A.....
But, just to give the benefit of the doubt? I'm going to play along.
Oh, and how your "left" hand must be just aching to find that ripe opportunity to rant and rave. ("How come he can do it and I can't").
There's a little boxing gym in Boyle Heights that you boys are welcomed to visit. 12-ounce gloves??
Snoop fucking Doggie Dog .... "Reformed gang banger" who loves mankind and has such positive messages for our consuming public. Yes, our youth must definitely tune in to our "role model" the Snoop Dog. After all, didn't he and Mr. IaCocca co-star in a commercial?
Our gang banging youth will surely listen to Snoop Doggie and appreciate the message of Peace.
"We are the World".
so who is calling the shots for the eme?
Community leaders and the sheriff talk peace and the riots’ cause
By CELESTE FREMON
Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 10:05 am
Lee Baca: Looking for a way out of this mess. Photo by Damian Dovarganes
At 6 o’clock last Friday night, around 200 people, most of them African-American, gathered at the Hope for Life Foundation at Manchester and Normandie in South Los Angeles, for what was billed as an urgent town hall meeting about the ongoing jail riots.
By week’s end, the “disturbances,” as they were euphemistically called, had been going on for seven days straight, and even the coolest political heads were starting to freak out. Race-based riots spring up cyclically in various parts of the combined L.A. County jail complex of Pitchess Detention Center and North County Correctional Facility, located just off the 5 freeway, a few exits past Magic Mountain. But this time, the brawls went on so long, it was soon apparent that something bigger and badder was occurring. And no one in a position of authority — from Sheriff Lee Baca on down — seemed to be able to say for sure when and how it could be stopped. The fact that the entire complex was in lockdown status — meaning no phone calls home, no visits, no rec time, no anything but eating and sleeping (and not a lot of the latter, considering the through-the-roof inmate tension) — had not made a damned bit of difference.
Hence the Friday-night town hall meeting.
The night’s agenda — which consisted of a panel presentation by several South L.A. pastors, plus state Senator Gloria Romero, and a grim-looking Sheriff’s Department deputy chief named Ronnie Williams — was hastily organized by Bishop Edward Turner, a pastor himself, and the director of Sheriff Baca’s Clergy Council.
The panelists spoke, one after the other, with earnest concern and passion, but when it came to proposed solutions, no one offered specifics. “We must stand up and make sure we get the staffing, the training, the resources to overcome race conflicts . . .” said Gloria Romero. “That’s right!” audience members shouted. Minister Tony Muhammad noted the need to address racial imbalances inside the jail dorms, where African-Americans are outnumbered by Latinos at a rate of 2- and 3-to-1, thus guaranteeing their victimization in any racial disturbance.
Interestingly, while many, including Deputy Chief Williams, criticized certain Sheriff’s Department actions, nearly all praised Lee Baca as a law-enforcement figure they respected — and obviously didn’t want to lose come next election. Yet by meeting’s end, it was unclear what precisely had been accomplished, and the crowd dispersed into the parking lot looking energized but slightly bewildered.
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The riots — for those who have lost track — began on Saturday, February 4, with a 2,000-person melee that broke out in the maximum-security North County Correctional Facility a few minutes after the day’s visiting hours finished at 3 p.m. For the record, the brawl did not consist of a couple of thousand guys all pounding each other in a single big room or jail yard. NCCF — or Supermax, as the inmates call it — consists of five different modules that are broken down into 90-person dorms. Evidently, the word had been passed for days before the first incident that everything was to start after the 3 p.m. “count” — the four-times-daily moment when prisoners are literally counted to make sure that nobody is . . . say . . . missing. As planned, the various dorms erupted shortly after 3, some simultaneously, some in sequence. Eleven days later, two people were dead and hundreds injured in multiple brawls that bounced daily and unstoppably from facility to facility.
In terms of the riots’ cause, in the beginning the official line was that they were the product of a beef between two gangs in South L.A. — one Latino, the other African-American — that had now migrated to the jail system. But when the disturbances continued unabated, jail watchers admitted that no single gang has the kind of power to persuade that many inmates in that many separate dorms to stage that many coordinated attacks.
None but the EME.
Thus, late last week, those with sources inside California’s state prisons concluded that while some of the smaller fights might be opportunistic brawls with personal agendas, the riots as a whole were the doing of the EME — the Mexican Mafia. A breakdown of what, exactly, the EME had in mind varies slightly, depending on who’s doing the analyzing. But it is pretty much agreed that this was not a simple retaliation, but rather a power move, a massive revenge cycle, an object lesson — meaning that, whatever its purpose, it’s unlikely to go away when this month’s spate of brawls finally comes to an end, either through crackdown or exhaustion.
So what to do?
Crackdowns, lockdowns and attempts at isolating the shot callers have been the prime strategies used to combat similar problems in the state prisons. It is a policy that has been spectacularly unsuccessful, often creating more trouble than it resolves.
In addition, as most corrections analysts rightly point out, 98 percent of the inmates don’t want riots — not one little bit — and would gratefully decline to participate if they could see any safe way out. “Babe, I don’t have a choice” is what jail inmate Augustin Velasquez told his worried wife, Jenny Olmeda, in the one call he was able to make in the midst of last week’s violence. “If I hadn’t gotten involved, somebody from my own race would have hurt me.”
By the same token, it’s acknowledged that the main troublemakers should be removed from the general population, just as one would do in the case ofchildren fighting on a playground. Thus, last week, Sheriff Baca reiterated plans to shift Castaic’s most violent inmates to the more controllable Twin Towers facility — a move that has long been talked about, yet not previously affordable.
“But unless you want to duplicate a [federal] prison like Marion, with lockdown all the time,” says Mike Gennaco, the chief attorney who independently reviews L.A. Sheriff’s Department’s actions, “we’ve got to do a lot more.” Gennaco and the Board of Supervisors’ jail monitor, Merrick Bobb, have emphasized the need for an all-hands-on-deck push to step up deputy recruitment, possibly including bonuses for those working the jails. “Too few deputies guarding too many inmates,” says Gennaco, results in a reliance on a command-and-control model that is never healthy, either for prisoners or for those guarding them.
Jail watchers, ranging from Gennaco and ACLU Jails Project coordinator Jody Kent to community activists like Bishop Turner, all underscore that merely managing the “bad” inmates will not solve anything in the long term. For real change to take place, they say, the emotional health of the rest of the inmates must be fortified through the use of various programs like GED classes, anger-management groups, Amer-I-Can “life skills” courses, plus lesser-known strategies like the innovative, prison-incubated 12-step program, CGA — Criminals and Gangsters Anonymous.
“We’ve seen some real success stories work on a smaller scale that we should use as models,” says Gennaco. “For example, the veterans have a treatment program for vet inmates that’s been excellent.”
“But here’s the thing,” says Kent, “we have to make these programs available to more than just a few hundred inmates. Then, I guarantee you’ll see the stress level inside jail drop, and the problems diminish.”
Sheriff Baca, who sounds understandably tired these days, says he’s not against any of it, that in fact he welcomes any and all creative ideas. “But there is no magic. And most of it takes money,” he says. “It’s all about the almighty dollar.”
“The most daunting challenge,” adds Gennaco, “is that just when we’ve agreed on solutions, the public’s attention will have moved on.”
And along with it, the will and the money needed to prevent the next explosion.
Now THAT's a post. Thanks.
A DYING CHICANO
A Chicano named Rodriquez went to his doctor to determine the source
of his sickness.
The doctor, after a lengthy examination, sighed and
looked Rodriquez in the eye and said,"
I've got some bad news for you. You have cancer, and it's very bad.
You'd best put your affairs in order."
Rodriquez was shocked and saddened.
But, being of solid character, he managed to compose himself and
walk from the doctor's office into the waiting room.
To his son who had been waiting, Rodriquez said,
"Well son, we Chicanos celebrate when things are good,
and we celebrate when things don't go so well.
In this case, things aren't so well. I have cancer.
Let's head for the bar and have a few beers."
After 3 or 4 beers, the two were feeling a little less somber.
There were some laughs and more beers.
They were eventually approached by some of Rodriquez's old friends
who asked what the two were celebrating.
Rodriquez told them that Chicanos celebrate the good and the bad.
He went on to tell them that they were drinking to his impending end.
He told his friends, "I have been diagnosed with AIDS."
His son's eyebrows raised and he opened his mouth, but
Rodriquez raised his finger and the frown on his face stifled what
his son had planned to say.
The friends gave Rodriquez their condolences, and they
had a couple more beers.
After his friends left, Rodriquez's son leaned
over and whispered his confusion.
"Dad, I thought you said that you were dying from cancer?
You just told your friends that you were dying
from AIDS!" Rodriquez said,
" I know mijo, but I don't want any of those
pendejos sleeping with your mother after I'm gone."
There's an article in today's Pasadena Star News about the bus riots out in San Bernardino County. Just thought you might like to know.
IN BRIEF THE REGION / CHINO
Ex-Officer Convicted of Aiding Prison Gang
From LA Times Staff and Wire Reports
A former correctional officer at the California Institution for Men in Chino has been convicted of assisting white supremacist gang members in distributing narcotics and assaulting inmates at the state prison, authorities said Wednesday.
Shayne Allyn Ziska, 44, of Fontana could get up to 50 years in prison when he is sentenced May 8. Ziska was convicted Tuesday on charges related to his association with the Nazi Low Riders from 1998 to 2000 while an employee of the prison.
what do you call a mexican with a rubber toe??
Roberto
what do you call a mexican with no car??
Joaquin
What did the mexican fireman name his twins??
hose A. and hose B.
what do you name a mexican with no legs??
consuelo
what do you call 2 mexicans playing basketball??
juan on juan
what do you get when you cross a mexican and a german??
a beanerschnitchell
Hardy-har-har............
Paging Sheriff Baca: Yeah, could we please move the jokester to the Twin towers downtown. then we can find some Arab to fly a plane into them.. thanks......
"WALLY BAN THESE HACKS PLEASE!"
Ban ALL anonymous hacks..
Hey that rodriquez guy sure sounds smart, Hey whats all the bullshit with the niggers and riots? can anyone really say their so fucking surprised at the shit thats happening. the niggers are fucked up fools with additudes that sink to high heaven, and all you know it! even the fucken do gooders.
which one of these do gooders do think would let thier duaghters marry on of these fools from the ghetto, "NONE" fucken hypocrites.
and all these town hall fucken bullshit meeting being held with fucking nigger clergly and shit wheres the raza in all this shit after all arn't we the ones kicking black culo like a motherfucker. which one of you loud motherfuckers with such big opinions on the fucken suject have been asked to attend? NONE, because as usual this shit seems to concern and be an all white and black issuse, the putos won't admit theres more then just black or white out there. and as much as some of you on this blog may or may not agree with this riot shit or whats the real deal behind it. belive me there will be some truths that'll come out of them.
Anon asked:
"so who is calling the shots for the eme? "
That'd be a few old, impotent, meglomaniacs who seem to have convinced these other weak-minded mothafuckers to follow them like a flock of sheep.. Then you have all you groupies who give them credence by salivating over every act of overt violence that "supposedly" comes from their edict........ BULLSHIT!!!
To the poster; Aron asks,
It sure surprises me when someone, like so many others on this blog offer up stupid questions and perpostous statements such as the previous fellow. These poor basement critics talk out of their anal cavities when they make such statements and concluions. Frist of all these people have no idea what its like in these prisons whatsoever. They can't even imagetion what it must take to survive a place such as a CA prison. It would be nice to see what one of these idiots would do when some inmate came up to them and demanded their manhood [black, white or brown]. Yes I'm sure they'd be quick to find one of those old time meglomanics too cuddle up to and I'm sure you'll all agree with that. And that's only one certain thing that would quickly change their minds on the current situation. So concider the soruce of inpeachment on this matter and rest asured this pepe is talking nothing but "MASA" out of the side of his neck [pimpleneck].
The real Mr. A...
Can anyone provide any information on whether a third inmate was killed in LACJ? Thanks...
TO:
LOL at he "SOUTHSIDER" who writes in all caps. You act like the "SOUTHSIDE" is a gang. What are you a chola sin varrio. Your proballt from east side torratas LOL
SOUTH SIDE IS A GANG LITTLE KID IS THIS BLOG IS FOR MATURE PEOPLE NOT FOR LITTLE MOCOSOS LIKE YOU TO GET YOUR INFORMATION AND GO TELL YOUR HOMIES THAT YOU KNOW WHATS UP.
LITTLE STUPID DO YOU WHAT A SOUTH SIDER IS? DO YOU KNOW WHAT A SOUTH SIDE CAMARADA IS? DO YOU KNOW WHAT A SURENO IS YOU PROBABLY DONT LITTLE KID SO GROW UP ANS STOP DISRESPECTING ABOUT CARNALES AND NO I AM NOT FROM TORRANCE I AM FTROOP AND OLD MEMBER OF THE GANG COUNCIL.
AND FUCK SNOOP PUSSY DOGG AND ALL HIS FUCKEN MAYATES FRIEND.
SUR SIDE FOR LIFE.
WELL THEN , FUCK FTROOP AND ALL THE REST OF YOU SUR RATS.
OH I SEE YOU MUST BE ONE OF THEM PC WANABES I HOPE YOUHAVE THE BALL TO SAID THAT IN MAINLINE FUCKEN COWARD THE MAYATES DID AND LOCK WHAT HAPPEND TO THEM.
SUR SIDE X3
This blog is great! It's Boulevard Nights meets Hannity and Colmes! I'd thought I'd seen it all...
I've just never seen so many gang bangers use the terms 'pc' and 'liberal' before. Times are a changing.
So, seriously, what Republican candidates does the 18th street gang officially endorse in this year's mid terms? I'm sure it's posted on their website:
"We here at 18th street officially endorse Katherine Harris for Congresswoman, for her hard stance on low taxes, family values, and longer jail sentences for criminals! Fuck the liberals, ese!!"
Oh boy, I'm going to log onto this blog tomorrow for my class to see, and are we going to have a laugh...
Hey Super Scrap you must have spent all of your time on the yards and no time in school.
Balls is plural and most people do have two. Maybe you scraps only have one.
Said is past tense and since I'm not on the Mainline I can't Said shit right now can I ?
And you might want to Look at the mayates not lock at them.
Slow down homie you got your g-string twisted too tight up your culo.
All you scraps got is power in numbers . No fuckin balls .
Come on now "Anonymous",
To critique someones spelling on this blog is like saying "Albert Einstien has bad hair" or saying fuck you in an argument because you don't have anything better say. I'm a southsider so I don't care what you say(HAHAHHAHA a tough guy checking another tough guy's spelling hahahahha) but, at least add some facts to your argument to show why his claims are no good. Fallacies get old.
"Oh boy, I'm going to log onto this blog tomorrow for my class to see, and are we going to have a laugh..."
If you have that much time on your hands then your class must be enrolled in ESL.
there was a riot in new folsom yesterday
What ever happened to Fred "Snake Eyes" Mendrin
the only thing eme runs is there mouth nf and all norte as a matter of fact has cleaned up many of the yards allready of trash (scraps and cousin daters) as far as the blacks go all the riots are is a weak atempt to try to break the growing combinded efort of norte blacks and browns to free themselfs from the slavery chains that the whites have placed on us so all you eme scraps blowing the ab should wake up and relize you are nuthing more than modern day slaves doing the white mans bidding.... and tj your lame ass stories of nfers running show me when any time in recent history that norte ran away .... you cant cause we stand our ground its better to die on our feet than live on our knees. ....
(like eme on knees blowing ab)
Norte for life
Fred Mendrin paroled in 1985 and is an associate jail chaplain.
fuck all u scrap loven bitches norte is never scared
Running the prisons. What does that mean?
The Mexicans run their affairs, Whites run their affairs, and Blacks run their own affairs.
All groups got their own operations, their own hustles.
The Mexicans aint barking orders to the Blacks, and we know the blacks wouldn't listen to no shit like that.(RIOTS)
So what are they running? What, they got the best jobs prisons can offer?
Everybody uses the same technics to get that shit in there. If one group is out, do yall really think a Strung out junky Mexican wont cop from whoever gots it at the time?
To keep it real, Mexicans do business with Blacks, and vis versa, in and out side.
All this shit is a myth, there is no Iron Curtain in the middle of The Yard or these Neighborhoods.
We all know for years blacks punished inmates on an indivual basis.Mexcians and whites came together out of Fear of a Black Planet.
Blacks dominated the gang scene for years.Had a monopoly on drugs and violence for decades.You didnt hear a peep from Ese's in the 1970's or 1980's.
Chicano Gangs of this Era were switch blade gangsters, broke drug addicts, sniffing paint/glue and slamming dog food, sad scence for a chicano gangster.
Blacks gave mexicans passes in there neighborhoods for years.If blacks would of took a page out of the Sureno "Play Book,and took up a racial campaign to elimate "Mexican Civilians", cleansing these mexicans out of South Los Angeles,Compton, and Watts shit would be different.
There would be no Florencias West of the traintracks, no Eighteen Streets claiming, lol (Martin Luther)KING BLVD gangsters.No Compton Varrios acting like mad dogs that need to be put to sleep, and all Watts Varrio Grapes would of turn Grape Street Crips or nothing.
But Blacks weren't on that page.
Maybe jacking your Paisa daddys here or there, knocking them out on the RTD bus.But for the most part there are alot of Blaxicans Crip and Bloods.
In the county jail,in the 1970's and the 1980's blacks were loud and whatever, and a mexican didnt do a god damn thing about it.Blacks were punishing Ese's on head up fades.
Its this wave of immigrants that has altered the landscape, the recruiting of stoner gangs, and taggers. Ballooning the ranks of Chicano gangs that were on there last legs from hardcore drug abuse. Straight up Hypes.
Without this population boom,Ese's would still be stuck on Ceaser Chavez Blvd with Needles in there arms.
Are there any full blooded Chicano Gangs left?
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